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today i found that ubuntu will bring out a version for android.
This thread is for discuss this:
here is the link http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
here is a video
http://www.youtube.com/v/AyeFcldavTk

I wonder if we could tweak it somehow to work with legacy devices too .

drive2droad said:
I wonder if we could tweak it somehow to work with legacy devices too .
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I don't see the point of this. It's no different than the Atrix thing.
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MikeyMike01 said:
I don't see the point of this. It's no different than the Atrix thing.
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Except that it's actually a fully-functional OS. Anything that you can do on Ubuntu, you will now be able to do on your phone. This gets us much closer to having a truly pocket-sized computing device.

Pretty cool. Only issue I had was it was incompatible with some programs and some drivers I needed were funky or I would have stayed on Ubuntu instead of jumping back to win 7. Keep up the good work!
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Canonical says the "code is available for end users" though it will require quite some expertise to pull it off. I assume the biggest challenge is getting X to work natively with the phone, but if they can do it, and the code is available, I'm sure it's only a matter of time until someone on this forum gets it working, and boy am I excited! I want this now!
I have yet to see anyone with the code though.

MikeyMike01 said:
I don't see the point of this. It's no different than the Atrix thing.
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With Atrix, you'll need their Motorola's "Web top" to run it, but with this, u just need only a TV with HDMI supported to turn your TV to a desktop PC, but still there is some limited though.
According to their site
"so it is easy to integrate into current production roadmaps. The hardware requirements are straightforward and, with a broad range of ARM and x86 hardware supported, it can realistically be added to phones already in development."
It's clearly there is something to do during development process before launching the phone. but I still hope someone can find a way to put this on previous devices too.

codesplice said:
Except that it's actually a fully-functional OS. Anything that you can do on Ubuntu, you will now be able to do on your phone. This gets us much closer to having a truly pocket-sized computing device.
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Yes, but given that it's a phone how much can you really do?
beam408 said:
With Atrix, you'll need their Motorola's "Web top" to run it, but with this, u just need only a TV with HDMI supported to turn your TV to a desktop PC, but still there is some limited though.
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That's a fair point. I was looking at the software only.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Yes, but given that it's a phone how much can you really do?
That's a fair point. I was looking at the software only.
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I have seen Ubuntu (and its derivatives) run just fine on a computer with a 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 512MB of RAM. It will run OpenOffice just fine, Thunderbird just fine, Chrome just fine, and synaptic (package manager) just fine. No, you won't have all the processing power of a real desktop system but it will be plenty for doing light work (word processing, email, web browsing, maybe light photo editing in GIMP). It will be far more useful than Motorola's little webtop experiment.
And it won't just be a larger display for a mobile OS - it will be a fully functional desktop Linux OS, and completely hacker friendly. This is an exciting prospect!

I want this right now, but I don't have a dual core phone :/ Hopefully by the time my upgrade comes around at the beginning of next year, this will be the norm!

Kick ascii!

Wow.. cool!

So...
How's this thing going?
Thought i'd refresh this thread.
1. I have a Galaxy S2 and ran Ubuntu 12.04 on it, using "Complete Linux Installer" (Google Play). The official XDA thread is called "Linux-on-Android [...]" , It's a chroot, VNC connection. I made a video demo from boot till shutdown: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSId7rzybCk
2. Does anyone know of some working native X for this, for any device at all?
3. There's this concept phone "Nexphone" running "Ubuntu for Android". They're trying to make a prototype with money from Indiegogo: www.indiegogo.com/nexphone but i guess the crowd won't pay them 1 mil. dollars to pull it off.

Ubuntu will pull this off. I'm just not sure how successful it will be.
In any event, I'll be installing it as I run Ubuntu systems anyway.

nice concept
The concept is great and useful in many ways. Maybe we will see an available version of this sometime.

crancker said:
The concept is great and useful in many ways. Maybe we will see an available version of this sometime.
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Eventually yes. Phones are getting more powerful too. Quadcores are just starting to come out now.

Ubuntu Edge
Just making sure that everybody's heard, that the bird is the word !
Here's Ubuntu Edge, a Phoneputer, which features Android, Ubuntu Phone and Ubuntu for Android!
Link to Indiegogo campaign: http://igg.me/at/ubuntuedge/x/4047467

Ubuntu for phones

So, the news spreads fast. The first phone to get it will be GNex. Hoping developers will make me (and many others) happy and let us give it a try...
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone

This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
We already have a working linux-based, open source OS - Android

Luckily, Ubuntu is supported from our HTC One S. So when the Ubuntu's image for Galaxy Nexus will be released, which good developer will take/port it to our phones ? On web people say that will be very easy port/take Ubuntu's Image for Galaxy Nexus to Mobile Phones with 1GB of Ram and Dual Core.

This would be awesome because Ubuntu doesnt give a **** about the Java vm and we could have native apps like wp8 and ios

Gonna follow this thread. Interesting !

Goatshocker said:
This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
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So that you can have a different version for every chipset and phone with incompatible drivers and incomprehensible instructions, just what the Linux community love.
"You want to what? make a phone call? that functionality won't be available until version 10.0.4.9.6.3.1 spangly-sugababe on your chipset."

Goatshocker said:
This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
We already have a working linux-based, open source OS - Android
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I didn't understood the answer above, so here's mine - because Android is far from a pocket PC, in what will Ubuntu turn it in. And for all the people who know why they are here - "curiosity" and experimenting is the right answer.

This looks good for people who don't use many apps.. Which allows the clean interface.. Maybe good for the older crowd.
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sudo apt-get install angry_birds

seozone said:
This looks good for people who don't use many apps.. Which allows the clean interface.. Maybe good for the older crowd.
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Yeah, android started a few years ago with 3000000 apps in the store
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having a full OS is nice, docking it and connecting to a monitor will transform your phone in a Desktop PC but, unfortunatelly, at least for now the system is veeery laggy and they don't have any release plans till 2014, by then Android and iOS will evolve even more and the 'need' for this kind of OS will no longer exist. Just MHO.

wildmaiden said:
sudo apt-get install angry_birds
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The following files are incompatible with Angry Birds and will be uninstalled.
Kernel
File system

Troute said:
The following files are incompatible with Angry Birds and will be uninstalled.
Kernel
File system
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Lol I love seeing some people who know Linux. While we giggle at these jokes others are like "huh?" Lol.
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The thing is, unless they plan on only releasing it on x86 devices, the compability will be terrible. So you will have a full desktop OS, with no "easy" way to install programs.
Its the same as Win8 ARM-version. Its not like you can install PC-games on it etc...
I really dont see the point in bringing in another mobile OS at this point. Android and iOS have had years to develop within the communities, and both OS's hosts a huge amount of apps.
The only thing android is missing for being a "laptop replacement", imo, is better multitasking, and ability to run every app in a small window instead of fullscreen (like OverSkreen and AirCalc).
And, of course, a taskbar to quickly change between windows.
Implement those things and I'll throw my laptop out of the window lol.

It will be compatible with both ARM and x86. And if it is using the resources more wisely - then give it to me. I miss many of the PC OS's functions on Android. And if Android one day gets windowed style apps - it will need 16GB or RAM and 24 core CPU and a truck sized battery to feed this.

bo6o said:
And if Android one day gets windowed style apps - it will need 16GB or RAM and 24 core CPU and a truck sized battery to feed this.
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No it wont.
Edit: well obviously if you insist of having 10 million programs open at once like on a PC, then yes.

bo6o said:
It will be compatible with both ARM and x86.
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Ah but which ARM chips? if it's anything like the support for current ARM products it will be only a very small selection of devices and even then getting it to work on a device with this graphics chip and that camera will be a difficult task, but that's for devs to worry about. What joe public will see is every phone with a completely different GUI and no 'standard' between them, which is what manufacturers want, so they can tie us into their own product line as per IOS.
Somebody posted elsewhere that Samsung were going to come up with their own OS, I disagreed but if Linux Mobile becomes a reality I may be proved wrong.

They said that will use even the same drivers as android. Both are linux based. So don't worry. Just wait, if you aare interested.
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Ubuntu will run fine. If it's something you're interested in having then it didn't be a long wait. Rumor was the image for the nexus would be out real soon. So if some good devs still working on the one s wanted to they could get it going in our phones.
I'd like to run Ubuntu on my phone only because I use it on my pc and its so nice and light. Boots fast and is so light weight
Hope we get to taste it real soon!
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I am looking forward to this as well can't wait to run it. I'm a big supporter of the Ubuntu software.
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Ubuntu on mobile phones

Hey guys,
Ubuntu on mobile phones:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/design
I personally think it's a win for Android. Since Android is always behind the mainline Linux kernel, now with Ubuntu being optimised for ARM devices, the kernel drivers will be in line with the main Linux kernel. That could possibly mean that phones like the Sensation could always be kept up to date as Android is a forked distribution of Linux.
This is all strictly hypothetical of course and it may not bear to fruition.
On a side note Ubuntu on mobile does seem pretty awesome, especially the gesture based controls.
So what are your thoughts guys?
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The promised land indeed - the unfied and homogeneous environment from smartphone to cluster.
And it looks beautiful - fair play. Bare back Android still looks like a school project to me.
Will be interesting to see which of the OEMs get on board. But it could be just what HTC need to differentiate themselves again.
Edit: Clever so and so's, common drivers mean it shouldn't be long till we see some ports. I for one will have a phone with it on from day one. Definitely.

Apparently the source will release Q4 2013 so we could possibly build it for our sensations as the kernel is not much different to our android kernel. I honestly can not wait because there's no dalvik vm running so it could essentially work lag free.
The future is coming where everything is tied into one OS. However I doubt htc will release a phone with an unlocked bootloader. Manufacturers like Samsung and Sony will possibly capitalise on Ubuntu with their unlockable bootloaders
Edit: Eliminate lag on Android: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
This confirms my thoughts about the dalvik vm. It's the Dalvik VM which is the main cause of lag on Android. Now with Ubuntu having no virtual machine, it should run with near to no lag!

Ubuntu on Sensation sounds amazing, although I might not be using this phone around Q4 2013, shame really...
I personally preferred ubuntu for android (it was plug ur android phone into a dock then use it as Ubuntu computer). But I guess an Ubuntu phone is cool too, and always welcome any new platforms to the market, getting some fresh blood

I can't wait

Just out of curiosity, are there any developers in the sensation world that think they'd be up to porting this when it become available? I would love to see this come to the Sensation.

How exactly will it be diffrent from andoid in terms of performance?

harsh.deep said:
How exactly will it be diffrent from andoid in terms of performance?
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Tons. Expect the scrolling and general touch interface to be as smooth as an iPhone or windows phone. (To the haters, you simply cannot deny that that android has some lag to it, no matter the phone). I think this is the only OS out there that can compete with android and iPhone simply because of the desktop OS concept, which is brilliant and exactly what most people would love to have if the app market picks up for it. Only time will tell though.

is anybody, who try it?

Exactly, Android will have some degree of lag due to the Dalvik VM. It's Ubuntu which has the possibility having little to no lag at all.
And to the poster above, Ubuntu still hasn't been released yet on any phones
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Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.

As long as you have terminal, anything is possible
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NeoSilky said:
Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
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They can't put anything on a phone that I can't take off.
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NeoSilky said:
Apart from all the great and obvious advantages that this poses, I'm worried that phone networks will still try and bloat up the phone with all their branding and rubbish.
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Where's there's a will, there's a way. XDA has proven that time and again in the smartphone world

I'm stoked for Ubuntu, but you guys saying lag for all Android devices haven't spent much time with a Nexus 4...

I'm definitely going to switch to this if it becomes available for the sensation.

Apache0c said:
I'm definitely going to switch to this if it becomes available for the sensation.
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+1
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wideasleep1 said:
I'm stoked for Ubuntu, but you guys saying lag for all Android devices haven't spent much time with a Nexus 4...
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One of my friends has it, and have played with it quite a bit. But I'm sorry, it still doesn't compare to an iPhone in terms of smoothness. The only thing that compares is a windows phone.

Very nice i hope bring to sensation

Pip513 said:
One of my friends has it, and have played with it quite a bit. But I'm sorry, it still doesn't compare to an iPhone in terms of smoothness. The only thing that compares is a windows phone.
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Not buy'in it. I've played with 3GS, 4 and 4S, and the N4 is snappier than all 'ovem. Project Butter was a total success, and Android finally tore that smoothness monkey off its back. IOS is slow now, by comparison.

Ubuntu OS

Has anyone seen or read about the ubuntu os that will be releasing for the nexus? I wonder if it could be ported to the S3 or have some android/ubuntu hybrid?
Either way I think this will shake some things up a bit.
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It is not coming out for the nexus Canonical just used the phone to demo its OS. They are planning to release the source code for devs to play with. They are also planing To sale ubuntu smartphones soon.

ricecake2000 said:
Has anyone seen or read about the ubuntu os that will be releasing for the nexus? I wonder if it could be ported to the S3 or have some android/ubuntu hybrid?
Either way I think this will shake some things up a bit.
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I don't think there will be a need to port the device as it seems like it will able to run on all devices. I wouldn't call Ubuntu for android smartphones an OS until they officially release it as it seems more like something that runs along side android and allows the user to use the docked phone as a PC. Even on the Ubuntu website they state
Newer multi-core processors are up to the job, and Ubuntu is the killer app for that hot hardware. It’s the must-have feature for late-2012 high-end Android phones.
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Even on their website they refer to whatever they are releasing as an app. It appears that Ubuntu for our phones will be more like a multi-tool with the ability to do a TON of stuff, like some sort of super app.

It would be nice to be able to finally compile kernels on the device itself and ditch the need for a 'real' computer altogether.

Well super app or not I think it will be cool to run at least for a few days.
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Definitely looks impressive! Hope to be able to test it out soon!

In interviews they made it clear it is far from ready with a lot of core functionality still missing. Also if you watch the videos of hands-on it is pretty slow and lags.

frankspin said:
In interviews they made it clear it is far from ready with a lot of core functionality still missing. Also if you watch the videos of hands-on it is pretty slow and lags.
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Agreed. It is far from release, and I doubt we will ever see it on an S3. I wouldn't even expect to see an official device until next year.

I agree with OaklandZoo. Ubuntu on a phone sounds great but with the first phones not coming out until next year I don't think it will ever make it to the S3.

[Q] Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 and Ubuntu Touch?

Hey,
I was just reading the port guide for creating a Touch image for our device. It doesn't seem like a massive task to get it running just a little time consuming for a fella with a little less knowledge than some of the other guys around here. The funny thing was that the port guide specifically mentions our device, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting. Anyone know if this is (a) possible & (b) worthwhile. Like I said, I'd give this a go but I'm amature at best and it could probably be done a lot quicker by another interested party.
Cheers

I've been asking the same thing...
I'd love to have Ubuntu running on my P3110!
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If you watched google hangout on ubuntuonair, you can saw that one of the devs had already ported it for his wife`s P3110. He told there that it took him like 2-3 hrs with debugging. Also he told that he will provide it i think. I would love to see it for my P3100 but im not that skilled to try to port it.

Maybe once ubuntu for phones is released xda can tamper with it?

Luigi2011SM64 said:
Maybe once ubuntu for phones is released xda can tamper with it?
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For sure, and isn't something too difficult, since ubuntu for phones is based on cyanogenmod.

I used it on my n7 and to be honest, its not impressive at all.

scottx . said:
I used it on my n7 and to be honest, its not impressive at all.
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Really? It looks so polished...
Better to stick with JB, then?

scottx . said:
I used it on my n7 and to be honest, its not impressive at all.
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Why??? What are the bad aspects???? I know its dev preview so it do not have all features working....what else????
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Don't expect to much, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes : The Ubuntu Touch Developer Preview is intended to be used for development and evaluation purposes only. It does not provide all of the features and services of a retail phone and is not intended to replace your current handset. This preview is the first release of a very new and unfinished version of Ubuntu and it will evolve quickly.

Found this while searching for ubuntu to our tab> http://server1.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=3518 Looks interesting, the guy has a profile here on XDA but no word about ubuntu touch here :/