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[Q] Buy WP7 now or later?

Due to my touch screen slowly losing it's touch accuracy on my cracked screen I'm being forced to replace my Touch Pro 2 Verizon. I decided to go with the Fascinate which will be my second no WM phone and first since 2005 I believe. My contract is up in May as well. I decided against paying 80 or 90 to get a Omnia II or Imagio. I don't think I could stomach WM without a keyboard.
I am interested in WP7 but it seems to be in a very early stage. Verizon doesn't even have a WP7 device at all. I was surprised to see some complaint messages on VZW's own message board about the lack of devices.
Is it better for someone who like to fiddle with their phones a lot to wait until updates with IE9 and multitasking, maybe even new devices come out or do you think its pretty good to go ahead now? Will a techie be able to live with it day to day?
I have a WP7 device in my house but the female is pretty tight gripped with her phone but I have liked what I've seen.

Think about it this way. You already like what you have seen. Well, it WONT get worse. I used to hate my WM 6.5 keyboard, but it was because screen was resistive. I have a Samsung Focus and I love it. Once multitasking gets out there, it can only get better and better.
No other software company has a better potential to integrate an ecosystem than MS.
I believe Verizon will launch its first WP7 device in the coming weeks.
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I quite like WP7 but wouldn't recommend it to a friend today. It depends on how patient you are as I don't think it will be mature before 2012. You should have a look at some older threads on the topic and see if you could cope with the issues people have with WP7.
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Peew971 said:
I quite like WP7 but wouldn't recommend it to a friend today. It depends on how patient you are as I don't think it will be mature before 2012. You should have a look at some older threads on the topic and see if you could cope with the issues people have with WP7.
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Why wait?
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i'd wait at least until mango. but by then nokia wp7 would be only weeks away.

I'd wait at least until Mango but the Arrive looks pretty sweet if you want to jump ship right now.

WP7 might still be a bit young, but we know some of the major features that are coming, it was said before by someone else, but it ISINT going to get worse before it gets better.
and if you dont mind playin with it some, they will already do a lot. Id go with it now and watch it get better as it goes, otherwise it might be a while before you get to switch later, with contracts and all

the_Enlightened said:
Why wait?
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Simple answer: The OP wants to upgrade, which means he will be tied to (or stuck with if he hates it) the phone for 2 years. Since WP7 is still lacking, there's really no rush. I'd say wait until Mango as not only will the OS be better but also new devices will be coming at that time.
Even if you love your phone (which I guess you do), you have to put that aside to give sound, useful advice and in that case I think it's better to wait.

If you can wait then hold out until Nokia launches. If you need one now then its not a bad os. Its nicer then iOS but the market place is a WP7 weakspot even as of now. If you don't need games then its pretty good.
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Peew971 said:
Simple answer: The OP wants to upgrade, which means he will be tied to (or stuck with if he hates it) the phone for 2 years. Since WP7 is still lacking, there's really no rush. I'd say wait until Mango as not only will the OS be better but also new devices will be coming at that time.
Even if you love your phone (which I guess you do), you have to put that aside to give sound, useful advice and in that case I think it's better to wait.
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I guess the main reason for me to wait is because of apps. I need Spotify and what my company is developing (only android and ios for now... but not for long)

pfranceschi said:
No other software company has a better potential to integrate an ecosystem than MS.
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what does that mean, without using more buzzwords in the explaination ?

Thanks everyone. I am going to have to wait in the short term anyways until my contract is up. I see Verizon is only coming out with the Trophy in the short term. I am going to debate to see if I want to leave them or not. I like the Arrive as I perfer keyboards if possible and it's essentially a Touch Pro 3 in at least hardware.

ohgood said:
what does that mean, without using more buzzwords in the explaination ?
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Hotmail, Windows Live services, Zune, XBOX Live, Windows Media Center, Windows 7/8, Office 2010/365, Cloud services (Skydrice, Sharepoint), Visual Studio, Silverlight, Bing, Yahoo, etc. No other company has this much software available to integrate seamlessly into one ecosystem like Microsoft can.
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Should you switch from X to Y checklist:
Step 1a (on contract purchase) - See what your provider has to offer.
Step 1b (unlocked purchase) - See what is out there in your budget.
Step 2 - Make a list of all the tasks you accomplish on your current phone.
Step 3 - Make a list of all the tasks you would like to accomplish (wishlist).
Step 4 - Do the research.
Step 5 - Try before you buy.
If Windows Phone can do the things you need it to do now and you like it then take the plunge. Be very wary about purchasing a phone that cannot do what you need but will in the future; you may become very frustrated.
I love WP7 too and was going to get the Trophy but I ended up with a Defy (unlocked purchase). I needed Skype and Whatsapp so I will wait until Mango and get the one phone I have always wanted if it was not for its unattractive UI: Nokia!

Hi all
I think that this is the best time to buy an WP7 phone...
In my country (Greece) you can get HTC Trophy or LG Optimus 7 with 199 euros.....
For what those phones can offer this is an amazing price..
With the upcoming mango update and all those stuff that MIX has reveal the WP7 OS
will be a robust and mature enough mobile platform..
Guys ...dont forget 2 moths ago the price for those phones was arrount 500 euros...
IMO yes...this is the best time to buy an WP7 device

I just swapped my x10 with my new beautiful toy... HTC Mozart! Fantastic I will never waste money or time on Android or IOS again!
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the_Enlightened said:
I just swapped my x10 with my new beautiful toy... HTC Mozart! Fantastic I will never waste money or time on Android or IOS again!
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glad to Hear that

the_Enlightened said:
I just swapped my x10 with my new beautiful toy... HTC Mozart! Fantastic I will never waste money or time on Android or IOS again!
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What makes it better than a android?
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The fluidity of the OS in particular is important. Android is the ugly duckling of ios widgets alone creates no fluidity and it's laggy... Might be the x10, but don't think so. I've used the EnergyROMs (winmo 6.5) and it's far superior to both IOS and Android, but as you all know... Few apps and weak hardware. Can't wait for Mango!
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[Q] Windows Phone Challenge

Anyone thinking about trying to face off against them with the skyrocket? or are our phones just not good enough.

Isn't that promotion over?!
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huh? Ur joking right? There isnt single windows phone the market right now that can compete with the skyrocket, in ANY category, except maybe camera, but 8mp @ 1080 p is good enough for me

Lumina is kinda baller in a hardware standpoint... The obvious lack of Android is what kills me
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droid512 said:
Lumina is kinda baller in a hardware standpoint... The obvious lack of Android is what kills me
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not really, its also a qualcomm, but single core, only the camera is better (cmos sensor).

The way wp7 is integrated I doubt you will win. I gave my daughter my old Samsung Focus and it's smooth and fast. I like both OS's for sure but I'm sure the windows booth will have the phone setup for easy access via the tiles. If you do the challenge, let us know how it goes
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Pretty sure this is over, but most android phones can beat it. You just have to be ready, practice and set up your phone beforehand.

Its funny, windows mobile started it all, but when the iPhone and android iOS hit. Windows got knocked out and basically have to start out green. If only they would of stuck with windows mobile 6.5....
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yea it was over, but the terms were saying it had to be like out of the box stuff....so meaning we couldnt flash like a custom rom or something, ive only read people with Stock Galaxy Nexus could beat it....its a race from turned off to pulling up like weather...which takes the nokia phone like 15 seconds to boot up

There were several different types of tests and all were geared towards WP7's strengths.
It was an advertising campaign, so I would expect them to do well against most devices.
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huh? Ur joking right? There isnt single windows phone the market right now that can compete with the skyrocket, in ANY category, except maybe camera, but 8mp @ 1080 p is good enough for me
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It was not a test of hardware, it was a test of software and integration.
Something MS did very well with regards to WP7.
And sorry, WP7 does do social integration better than Android.
I own devices running iOS, WP7 and Android and WP7 has the social part nailed down.
Sure, you can find third party solutions for Android, but that's not the point of these tests.

I was not impressed with the Lumia or its Windows operating system. I demo'd one and picked up the Skyrocket instead (I was going to preorder a Lumia a week or so ago because of the $99). The handset was heavy, the touchscreen was not as responsive and it didn't help that it died in my hands. I thought the ATT rep was really good. She pulled a Skyrocket out (her own personal phone) and said I would not be happy with Windows mobile if I was used to Android..(coming from an Atrix that made my mind up and I am happy with my decision)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2012/03/28/is-the-microsoft-windows-phone-challenge-a-scam/

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2012/03/28/is-the-microsoft-windows-phone-challenge-a-scam/
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I wouldn't say the challenge itself was a scam more that some store employees/managers chose to be douche bags and not follow the written rules.
Even the creator of the challenge, Ben Rudolph said some stores were not playing fair.

I think with Nokia WP is finally getting some traction, especially at the price point they're selling it at. It was a smart move for Nokia to go WP rather then Android, it's easier for them to stand out. With Android they would just drown, among the sea of devices.
As far as the challenge goes it's not a scam but clever marketing. It reminds me of the old Pepsi Challenge campaign from years ago, funny how everyone shown in the ads always chose Pepsi

I've played with WP7, and it is a pretty slick OS. That said, these challenges are stacked in WP7's favor: social integration/efficiency.
It's not like they're gonna ask you to go to the market and download Instagram or other apps unavailable on WP7. Or pull up turn by turn navigation from google maps, or change your wallpaper, etc. etc.

Samsungs new open source OS

i have been blabbing and shouting about samsung going for its own OS. But most people here were like android is the big fish its free and found saying that samsung cant ditch royalty free android. I have noticed there move when they let the cyanogen community leave the exynos so easily.
Tizen is what i heard is the upcoming open source os by samsung. I knew the way samsung was growing the influence of TW on its phones.
It will be both good and bad for samsung to manage the updates google free and can be free from the limitations. But on the other hand ita development might be slow because of just one vendor putting it on their phones.
So instead of android becoming samsung. Samsung made its own android.
Tech keeping pace.....
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Is it something like Samsung becoming like Apple?
Samsung as a hardware Manufacturer so far so good. But as a developer of complete OS, I am not sure. What happens to 100s and 1000s of Android applications?
Edit: Google must have sailed 7 rough seas and moved 7 tough mountains to make android what it is now. (still it could not make it's presence on desktops)
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Well soon google will realize the mistake of going complete open source. I have also mentioned this to google before to make some properitery libs in the android regarding security issues. But google didnt listen. Now android should meet its competition.
Seems like now android wont have the best of the best hardware rather samsung will bring it on its own os. Thats why maybe they saved the flexible display and didnt plan to put it on s4.
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It will be a very sh1tty OS like bada i hate. I working a hundred or more phones monthly (in a service center since 5 years) and i can say that Samsung is the worst software developer company. All Samsung platform in the past was simple, as simple as crap. Todays Samphones (smart ones) are very good but they using other companies software as base. I still think Bada is a dead end sorry if there are bada lovers in here. Android has some years behind and its a real benefit. Finally sorry for my bad English knowledge.

I really doubt Samsung will launch an own OS; What could happen would launch an Android-based OS, but with another name.

Ugh.. Thisll be like badda os.. BAD OS!!! :/
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Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen

Using meego samsung is trying to do what nokia should have done... I always appreciate the good work. If they come up with something better i will definitely go and get it.
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friedje said:
Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS :
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I hope I am reading the wiki wrong becouse it sure looks like a HTML5 based app sdk. Web based apps might look good on paper for developers that want easy porting but from a user experience perspective they just suck compared to native.
I will concede that Enlightment libraries are very efficient and fast, though.
My question is, do users really need yet another mobile OS?

bada+meego
yuck
android will do very well while it is being developed
who knows after that.

unfortunalby it's a near future for android being less used by companies, just look at Firefox OS wich is in the cloud completely(i'm not really comfortable with this idea tough.) and now samsumg... i just hope they don't fall in the WebOS failure it was...

phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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steekyjim said:
phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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Thats absolutely true. Bandwidth is a real issue. But the real deal is that one has to cope with the advancements. Lack of resources cant hinder the development.
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here all the phone networks use edge for their mobile internet. Good luck with that one. It might be possible for a cloud phone specifically designed for use in parts of the US and western Europe. But outside that its going to fail compared to native apps. Poor countries can barely maintain their existing networks let alone pump millions into upgrading networks for just one os
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The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.

I am also positive for ubuntu. But the one thing i didnt understand is why ubuntu is so late in grabbing the phone platform.
the success of any new os is only if they allow the existent device to switch to their OS and not just the upcoming phones. Thats the only way they can grab a bigger marketshare.
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Ubuntu hasn't really been ready for a release to the average user yet.
The X.org display server alone is a huge problem, it kinda sucks, with the Wayland display server being developed there's more of a hope.
That and the fact Ubuntu in general is pretty awful to manage; every version since 10.04 has seen me go more and more into the terminal because settings in the GUI just vanishes or becomes more obscure.
Truth is the average user has no interest in using the terminal, except for various simple copy/paste'able commands.
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gszabi said:
The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Im also thinking that the ubuntu will get some success jn mobile platforms. The main advantage in the ubi is the linux kernel. I would not be surprised if it can run android apk-s like BBX.

Segnale007 said:
LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Too true.
As much as I think they're on to something with that, I'm not sure they've got even a clue how they'd get to Android style adoption.

First Impression of Android?

What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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My first Android powered phone was a Motorola Defy. Of course I didn't know anything about it, not even how it looked like. First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!

Adinaky said:
First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!
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Well said!
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It was awesome, so much possibilities, apps, customizing options,... but then I rooted my android phone, flashed newer android versions and had a lot of fun doing it. Android is awesome.

Before using it, I thought it was microsoft's attempt to compete with apple's os.

I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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Pattttti said:
I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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The same here, if i had to stay with gingerbread it would not have been so awesome as it is now.

Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Pattttti said:
Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Lol......yeah me too.....my name is Chris and I'm a flashoholic
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Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.

Freedom in all ways...

michaelsplus said:
Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.
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Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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guitarman2010 said:
Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
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first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:

dagothe9 said:
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
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first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:
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I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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We had experiences with the iPhone 3G and wow it was pretty great. Then one of us got the Galaxy S Captivate and it was really great as well. Data with HSPA+ just blew the iPhone away; no contest. And now we have this Apple vs Android battle all over the globe but when we started playing around with Android Dev boards (BeagleBoard for example) and with mainline Linux vs Android, the opportunities for communities to just tear open the commercial market are pushing mobile computing in such a great direction.
The turning point for us was being able to take a microSD with android putting it into the BeagleBoard, having it run; and then subsequently taking it out, putting another microSD card in it this time with Linux compiled for ARM with Arch Linux. At that point, we saw Android in a completely different light. I mean the plug and play abilities of those peripheral drivers alone...having that kind of device knowing that the backing to it is largely a Linux device kind of instills a level of confidence in both security (by the nature of open source whistle blowers) and in performance. Can't wait til Android becomes more than just a phone/tablet OS...give us more Android watches, Android clocks, Android cars; perhaps not in it's current implementation, but a derivative thereof. I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.

Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:

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Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:
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Personally I blame the OEMs. If done right, Android would be no different in lag/latency down to the low level code than a well built JVM on top of a Linux kernel. But as a consumer...I agree; it is unfortunate that Android is subject to bad software design and to make it worse, Android is open to bad design down to the implementation of the SDK.
Overall though I think I would rather encourage Android to get cleaner than Apple to get more open.

guitarman2010 said:
What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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in all honesty i was blown away by the change in everything (came from apple)

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I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.
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I will agree with you on that comment. Apple's iOS brings thoughts of claustrophobia to my mind lol
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Any rumors on a new Optimus 3D?

Has anyone seen or heard anything? I'd get one in a heartbeat now that LG has Google's attention and official support ... supposedly.

LG has Google's official support for the Nexus 4, nothing else...
If Google wanted an 3D Smartphone, a Nexus device would probably have it by now.

Does people still buy LG phones?
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Well
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Has anyone seen or heard anything? I'd get one in a heartbeat now that LG has Google's attention and official support ... supposedly.
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LG got Google's attention but not in a good way IMHO. Not being able to supply the demand and cutting down the production because YOU (LG I mean) think that Google will give you the next Nexus product line is like shooting yourself in the foot. And Google gives support for the Nexus line and NOT the producer's phone.
Now, for me, on my black list of companies - not to buy products, LG Mobile got to number one, after comes Samsung Mobile, Apple, HP (all products). I do own other LG products (3D TV, LG freezer), or Samsung - a TV also...but as mobile - LG for me is a "no way".
I hope that they WON'T release another 3D, because in some manner, in some way, the failure of keeping up with support to their products (including not only phones - 3D and 3D Max, but also 3D TV- my TV has a extraordinary picture but lack of fuctionality) killed the 3D trend on the market which is a bad thing - LG is the company with the most number of 3D and 3D related devices - I mean phones, TVs, 3D BR, 3D sound systems, 3D projectors and so on.
I will change my 3D phone with another one only if is produced by Nokia - the only one that I really think that could produce a decent 3D phone and support it.
PS: I have my P920 in very good conditions and think to sell it. Are you interested?

I respect what u say and its all right but Nokia??? O cmon man..symbian sucks
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alphatia said:
I respect what u say and its all right but Nokia??? O cmon man..symbian sucks
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Oh c'mon man.Take my advice: install appy geek to keep up with the news.In 2009 Nokia did a patent pending on 3d smartphones.Nokia is mostly on Windows 8 and taking in mind to do also Android phones.And meego is still one tablet OS that is respected by others.
Nokia is producing symbian phones only for low budget, the asha series and some traditional phones that means something, like E and N series
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That's right and windows phone is blowing up lately ..I thought about getting one but its still small I mean lack of apps and games. But looks and feels good ...BTW NOKIA IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITES IN HARDWARE QUALITY I just don't like the symian os but wp is a huge improvement...
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Nokia=winOS
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Nokia IS the hardware master
alphatia said:
That's right and windows phone is blowing up lately ..I thought about getting one but its still small I mean lack of apps and games. But looks and feels good ...BTW NOKIA IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITES IN HARDWARE QUALITY I just don't like the symian os but wp is a huge improvement...
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For the lack of apps - watch out the BlueStacks - Microsoft and Nokia, in some way, are afraid of this company because the BlueStacks gives posibility to run Android applications on Windows Phone, so virtually you can have the Google Play on a Windows Phone. So why, me - as a developer (not that I am), must do a Windows version of my application that already exists on Android and can be used on WP also? Lack of developers - lack of dedicated applications. lack of dedicated applications - lack of customers therefor NO MONEY.
A plus note of this BlueStack program is that you can have the best of both worlds - a functional Nokia WP (at least more functional than 80% of Android phones) and android applications.
A minus - for me, is that WP8 is mostly internet and social networking based - and I'm not a user of Facebook, Tweeter and other stuff like this - aside of XDA, WordPress and a few blogs that I follow, I am not in need to be connected to internet, therefor all that Live Tiles interface is rather useless for me.
A Nokia can be my next in line buy. Just not decided between Lumia 920 or Lumia 820

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For the lack of apps - watch out the BlueStacks - Microsoft and Nokia, in some way, are afraid of this company because the BlueStacks gives posibility to run Android applications on Windows Phone, so virtually you can have the Google Play on a Windows Phone. So why, me - as a developer (not that I am), must do a Windows version of my application that already exists on Android and can be used on WP also? Lack of developers - lack of dedicated applications. lack of dedicated applications - lack of customers therefor NO MONEY.
A plus note of this BlueStack program is that you can have the best of both worlds - a functional Nokia WP (at least more functional than 80% of Android phones) and android applications.
A minus - for me, is that WP8 is mostly internet and social networking based - and I'm not a user of Facebook, Tweeter and other stuff like this - aside of XDA, WordPress and a few blogs that I follow, I am not in need to be connected to internet, therefor all that Live Tiles interface is rather useless for me.
A Nokia can be my next in line buy. Just not decided between Lumia 920 or Lumia 820
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As far as i know,Bluestacks doesn't work on wp8. But on regular desktop windows 8 it does. (Plus on mac) I saw that lumia 920,oh man it's so beautifull!!! Love the design.
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kekio84 said:
As far as i know,Bluestacks doesn't work on wp8. But on regular desktop windows 8 it does. (Plus on mac) I saw that lumia 920,oh man it's so beautifull!!! Love the design.
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You are right. But it doesn't work for now. I'm sure that, in near future, the BlueStack guys will do it also on WP8. Just think of how much money they can make, even if is priced at 0.99 USD because everybody will buy it just to have, as I told early, the best of both worlds.

Yeah probably but Microsoft app store its kinda like apple app store and they remove apps they don't want also just installed win8 n noticed that I can buy apps in my currency that's a +1 for them
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idriff said:
Yeah probably but Microsoft app store its kinda like apple app store and they remove apps they don't want also just installed win8 n noticed that I can buy apps in my currency that's a +1 for them
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A short thing on Windows Store - not my intention to go off topic, but on Windows Phone, as far as I could understand from various forums, you can't install an application from an independent developer (one not listed on Windows Store because of the fees and policies of Microsoft), unless is on Windows Store. And, further more, if you don't have a microSD to you phone but you have a bad internet connection or you're on a limited data plan, you can't install larger apps from Windows Store.
Google Play, from this point of view, is kicking butts.

LG most likely is making at least one more. Circle them on G+ and let them know you are interested. So far I've only seen one or two people express any interest.
Either way they really need to step it up in the updates area. The 3D Max is still on Gingerbread? Really?
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