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Nokia concept, the future of phones

Check out the new nokia thought, for lack of better word, This was posted on tech crunch.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/10/nokias-crazy-bendy-kinetic-concept-blew-your-mind-watch-this/
thoughts? i think a bendy phone would kick arse.

seems like the engineers at Nokia have been playing too much Nintendo Wii
LOL

agreed. 8, 9, 10.

Lol I remember that episode of the office. Triangular tablet, fictional and basically useless

Lol... Symbian
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)

It looks good for the simplistic phone user but not your typical smartphone user.

>_<
natural user interface? that thing would need one heck of a manual. there's a reason babies can use android/iOS - its about as simple and natural as it gets, until it starts tapping into brainwaves. i would NEVER use this, no matter how "natural" or "futuristic" it is.

Damn that's sweet

Haha that is very nice!

This was about to happen with the Microsoft partnership.

I'm not convinced that this would replace my phone either, especially with that shape. But I do love the idea.

Ummm...looks like a "personal massager"...set it on vibrate and go to town!
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I'll take 3, I dont care what they cost.

Lolz....arrow up going down

Thank you ,, very much

That'll be useful for surfing!

I like the idea very much but I don't know about the shape.
One thing they need to learn fast is that the only way they can compete with world of androids and iphones is to make their operating system an open source like android. Otherwise they will stand no chance.
That is what has kept android in the game against iphones.

im still waiting for that wat-like phone kind of like what the power rangers have xD
nano-tech, yes.

This is like that Nokia Aeon project that never came true, don't this ever will.

If that comes out on the market iOS would be goin down big time LOL

Android vs Apple, voice you opinion...

What to say to apple fans trying to manipulate a layman, into buying an apple, in laymen terms? Or what's the ultimate android to apple bash? Or what's the best reason to buy android vs apple? One of the main reasons I wanna know what other people would say, especially to their friends or family. I've never touched a Mac nor will I ever so I can't really say anything but tech specs, so that's my main reason to start this thread. Plus... I also wanna hear if other people are as sick as I am just hearing the freakin word, "Apple".

jr71x said:
What to say to apple fans trying to manipulate a layman, into buying an apple, in laymen terms? Or what's the ultimate android to apple bash? Or what's the best reason to buy android vs apple? One of the main reasons I wanna know what other people would say, especially to their friends or family. I've never touched a Mac nor will I ever so I can't really say anything but tech specs, so that's my main reason to start this thread. Plus... I also wanna hear if other people are as sick as I am just hearing the freakin word, "Apple".
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before i use Apple, i thought it is the best phone, but after i use apple iphone 4, i find it is good but with so many limitions, cannot download the useful apps is not good.till now, i can only download the apps from app store. while android is much better than iphone, my husband's galaxy s2 hd lte is good enough.

Why is there an apple sub forum in xda. Wont it be a head ache for the mods to get the spam out of it?
Ontopic. My brother has an apple and he can't stop bragging about it. Apple this apple that. I don't know what so big of a deal with it. Its also costs damn too much. I do accept its a bit fast and little stuff but that would be cause I have a wildfire.
Also it only varies based on its memory Rom (or whatever they call it) . No different styles no different sizes. But android ranges from big to small powerful to low powered.
Maybe I say this cause I only used android but I'm not gonna use iPhone any time in the future.
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Customisation is Android's Strong Point!
I would say try an iPhone and try an Android phone - the iPhone will let you do so much, but then it will give you a brick wall which you can't jump over. The Android phone, on the other hand, will give you a blank canvas which you can turn into a Picasso or a Rembrandt, depending on your tastes.
Android = customisation, at its best.
iPhone = standardisation and closed ecosystem (at its best).
It all boils down to preferences anyway. I'd stick with Android though. I just can't stand the fact that iPhone's UI is a glorified app drawer. BORING.

I purchased an iPhone 4 the first month it came out. I had never owned a smart phone before this. I thought it was fun to play around with but I eventually got really bored of it. After 3 months I really didn't understand the hype behind the phone. I gave it to my dad and went back to my 5 year old Sony Ericsson which was WAAAAY more customizable than the iPhone, even though it was very old. With the iPhone I felt like someone was cutting my steak for me and cleaning my mouth, but with the Sony Ericsson I could choose whatever type of Steak I wanted and make it myself, constantly trying new seasonings. I know that was a terrible metaphor, but whatever.
In January of last year I picked up an HTC Inspire 4G. The first month my grades dropped because of how much fun I was having. I rooted it, installed a custom ROM, playing GBA/SNES/N64 games, and did everything I could do on my PC on my phone. I even edited microsoft word documents before sending them to my teachers straight from my phone. It was a whole new world. I could literally do anything with my phone.
Over the summer I bought a Galaxy S2 i9100, and I still have it. Best. Phone. Ever. Created. I skype with my friends using the front facing camera, watch HD videos while exporting to my HD TV, and connect a mouse and keyboard and surf the web while on vacation. I even leave my laptop at home when I travel on short trips now. I just hook up the phone to the hotel's TV and browse the web.
So the reason I prefer Android is that you can do anything you can on an iPhone and a lot more. IOS is discovering an alien civilization deep within space while Android is finding an empty planet and colonizing it.

Deltatiger said:
My brother has an apple and he can't stop bragging about it. Apple this apple that. I don't know what so big of a deal with it. Its also costs damn too much. I do accept its a bit fast and little stuff but that would be cause I have a wildfire.
Also it only varies based on its memory Rom (or whatever they call it) . No different styles no different sizes. But android ranges from big to small powerful to low powered.
Maybe I say this cause I only used android but I'm not gonna use iPhone any time in the future.
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+1 for everything

@ ComradeNF I like your last paragraph... Thanks for responses, keep it going;-)

@ arzku, I agree as well.

Kerosine said:
I would say try an iPhone and try an Android phone - the iPhone will let you do so much, but then it will give you a brick wall which you can't jump over. The Android phone, on the other hand, will give you a blank canvas which you can turn into a Picasso or a Rembrandt, depending on your tastes.
Android = customisation, at its best.
iPhone = standardisation and closed ecosystem (at its best).
It all boils down to preferences anyway. I'd stick with Android though. I just can't stand the fact that iPhone's UI is a glorified app drawer. BORING.
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Android Rocks
Hands down Android ....
Apple is just UI & the Brand they have managed to create over the years.
Android is the best that that could happen to Mobile devices...

From my "experience" (@Israel) most people with iphones are those who use their PCs just for facebook, they just dont want anything "complicated".
Android is more of a thinking man's platform (imo!)
Once a friend of mine bragged that the iphone is simple & small while android (galaxy nexus) is too complicated, messy and huge.
It made me chuckle cuz most people (including him) have huge cases on their iPhone's making it bigger and uglier than my HTC desire, which survived, and continues to kickass w/o a case for almost two years now.

nebsif said:
From my "experience" (@Israel) most people with iphones are those who use their PCs just for facebook, they just dont want anything "complicated".
Android is more of a thinking man's platform (imo!)
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A friend of mine recently just upgraded from the iPhone 3Gs to the iPhone 4s. When I found out, I was all, "uhh, I've shown you what Android can do." To which my friend responded, "Yeah, but all I really do on my phone is check Facebook & Twitter."
Just saying, if that's all I did on my smartphone, I wouldn't spend the extra money a month for a data plan. I would just have a regular flip phone.

quietpopcorn said:
Just saying, if that's all I did on my smartphone, I wouldn't spend the extra money a month for a data plan. I would just have a regular flip phone.
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iAgree. But I think iPhone(along with all Apple products) makes some kind of ego for the owner. Other people think they are rich and elegant etc.
But as we all know, it's not cool to own an iPhone

Deltatiger said:
Why is there an apple sub forum in xda. Wont it be a head ache for the mods to get the spam out of it?
Ontopic. My brother has an apple and he can't stop bragging about it. Apple this apple that. I don't know what so big of a deal with it. Its also costs damn too much. I do accept its a bit fast and little stuff but that would be cause I have a wildfire.
Also it only varies based on its memory Rom (or whatever they call it) . No different styles no different sizes. But android ranges from big to small powerful to low powered.
Maybe I say this cause I only used android but I'm not gonna use iPhone any time in the future.
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Actually, iPhones don't cost more than any other Android super phones. People just think iPhones are expensive because they don't offer a lot of bang for your buck.
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Apple is a novelty item now a days. Just to show off that they have it.
In the early days, it was the thing to have because it had all the apps and all the things people would want but now that Android is growing and developing more, it's almost the same for normal users. Of course the android needs to be on even grounds with the apple phone to be considered. ie iPhone 4 to Sg2, Razr, nexus.
For Normal users, if they don't customize the rom, and use it is as is. I think Apple would be the most useful for them.
For "Advanced" users (I use advanced lightly), the Android can do a lot more than Apple in terms of customization and useage.
Personally I'd go with Android. I thought about getting an iPhone but in the end I chose the galaxy S.

PeartFan40 said:
Actually, iPhones don't cost more than any other Android super phones. People just think iPhones are expensive because they don't offer a lot of bang for your buck.
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http://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteVergleichen1.aspx?artikel=225742,209918
uuh, oh rly?
i see a difference of whooping 300.- here

Shush...
Given the kind of feedback that's coming out I suggest we keep this thread under the radar, lest Apple decide to sue us for breaking one of their patents.
Considering the patents they have, I wouldn't be surprised they patented "the ability to have an opinion on a smartphone and its real value" by now! They typically use that patent to spread wrong ideas against Android phones (forceclosing issues, copying, etc) and in favour of their product (the "innovative" FaceTime for instance, new notification system, etc) to their sheep..er.. I mean, customers.

My Opinion
My own feeling is that the iphone is great for those who want an item that comes out of a box in a usable form that they can conform to.
The android is best for someone that wants to customize their phone to their likes, and for the tasks they will perform.
My wife would probably do great with an I-phone, She has an android, but she has never changed anything about it since the second day she had it.
I am always trying roms, kernals, and apps to make my phone perfect for me.

my gf recently got her first android.
after a day she asked me if she could change that stupid lockscreen from samsung to something.. more useful.
i showed her widgetlocker
now her lockscreen looks cooler than mine... xD
thats something what would've been impossible with an iphone..

Kerosine said:
I would say try an iPhone and try an Android phone - the iPhone will let you do so much, but then it will give you a brick wall which you can't jump over. The Android phone, on the other hand, will give you a blank canvas which you can turn into a Picasso or a Rembrandt, depending on your tastes.
Android = customisation, at its best.
iPhone = standardisation and closed ecosystem (at its best).
It all boils down to preferences anyway. I'd stick with Android though. I just can't stand the fact that iPhone's UI is a glorified app drawer. BORING.
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The biggest thing that annoys me with apples OS is the lack of a dedicated back button and the functionality that goes along with it. Its very annoying to open a link in an email and then have to manually go back to the email app. Very disorienting. Every other mobile os has some way of accomplishing this.

Are Lumia 800 Good ?

I plan to buy a new phone, i am using S2 right now, but i want one more phone , so i will like to hear from you all suggestion about the Lumia 800 is worthy or not??
THX

Owned an S2 myself... After using the lumia 800 everything else just seems slower and lesser.

z33dev33l said:
Owned an S2 myself... After using the lumia 800 everything else just seems slower and lesser.
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Troll alert.
The Lumia 800 is a beautiful phone, but still very limited when it comes to apps and features when compared to the SGS2.

Toss3 said:
Troll alert.
The Lumia 800 is a beautiful phone, but still very limited when it comes to apps and features when compared to the SGS2.
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i think there is a big Potential in apps for window phone in future !!

Windows phone is far from limited in terms of apps. If you want live wallpapers and an aesthetic clash, go android. I prefer a visually appealing OS to having a wallpaper that moves. Plus, there's still not an android phone that runs as fluid as a wp7 device. It doesn't matter how many cores they throw at it.

z33dev33l, i was trolling in that google/motorola vs apple thread, and i came across you. in all honesty, i had never considered a windows phone only because i havent seen windows market/push them hard (yet...) and i wasnt sure if they would be around for long. perhaps that's just me being naive, because seeing the decline of companies like RIM does put the ebb/flow of the cellphone business a little more into perspective. and i do believe windows are good phones (mainly from user reviews on various sites.) so, the possibility of windows picking-up market share is more of a reality. what are your thoughts on microsoft's long-term commitment in the cellular arena?

Android is open source. You can play xbox games on your android phone using the ONLIVE app.
You also get custom roms on android everything else windows doesn't
Before wen i was un educated i pursuaded my friend to get a windows phone but then i got a android phone and he was so jealous
OMG. Counter Strike On Android! http://cs-portable.net/

atljatl said:
z33dev33l, i was trolling in that google/motorola vs apple thread, and i came across you. in all honesty, i had never considered a windows phone only because i havent seen windows market/push them hard (yet...) and i wasnt sure if they would be around for long. perhaps that's just me being naive, because seeing the decline of companies like RIM does put the ebb/flow of the cellphone business a little more into perspective. and i do believe windows are good phones (mainly from user reviews on various sites.) so, the possibility of windows picking-up market share is more of a reality. what are your thoughts on microsoft's long-term commitment in the cellular arena?
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Honestly, Microsoft sucks at pushing their products. They are a software company primarily for computers so they're used to the OEMs pushing for them. With companies like Nokia, that's an excellent plan because Nokia is everything a cellular company should be. Unfortunately, the other OEM's are more concerned with marketing the size of your processor over the software.
MattyOnXperiaX10 said:
Android is open source. You can play xbox games on your android phone using the ONLIVE app.
You also get custom roms on android everything else windows doesn't
Before wen i was un educated i pursuaded my friend to get a windows phone but then i got a android phone and he was so jealous
OMG. Counter Strike On Android! http://cs-portable.net/
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xbox with onlive is hardly comparable to true XBL integration, wp7 already takes care of what custom roms are meant to achieve without the need for flashing, it runs smoother and lasts much longer on the same battery. I find the part about your education prompting your choice to be largely ironic given your post quality and your friend is fortunate.

z33dev33l said:
Honestly, Microsoft sucks at pushing their products. They are a software company primarily for computers so they're used to the OEMs pushing for them. With companies like Nokia, that's an excellent plan because Nokia is everything a cellular company should be. Unfortunately, the other OEM's are more concerned with marketing the size of your processor over the software.
xbox with onlive is hardly comparable to true XBL integration, wp7 already takes care of what custom roms are meant to achieve without the need for flashing, it runs smoother and lasts much longer on the same battery. I find the part about your education prompting your choice to be largely ironic given your post quality and your friend is fortunate.
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Okay let me explain again. Android is open source, so for many, you are able to flash different roms and totally Re_Arrange.
On windows its totally boring, same look all the time.
Second, new android phones have become much faster and battery life has dramatically improved considering all the things you can do on android and all the things people run on their phone.
(Droid razr maxx is an example, 2x the battery life of any windows phone)
My third point is the low amount of apps windows phones have, its such a boring market place with nothing on it, you dont get to experiance the games that android users can
Fourth point, us android users can do virtually anything with our phone, we can run windows xp, we can get a home launcher that is the same as windows 7/ apple or anything else.
Phones like the nokia lumia are such bad value for money because the phone has virtually nothing. It has nothing on android or apple.
People say windows operating system is fast/ well not anymore, us android users are now on dual and quad core so get of your hateraid
OMG. Counter Strike On Android! http://cs-portable.net/

I was playing counter strike from my dual core android phone, you cant do that on a windows phone.
I can download all my songs of my phone on android(for free but im not gonna tell u where)
I was playing saints row 3 on onlive and dirt 3 which is a little fun experiance that no other experiance that i can get that windows cant.
I have loads of apps to choose from /windows doesnt.
I basically theres nothing windows is fast at really
OMG. Counter Strike On Android! http://cs-portable.net/

z33dev33l said:
Honestly, Microsoft sucks at pushing their products. xbox with onlive is hardly comparable to true XBL integration, wp7 already takes care of what custom roms are meant to achieve without the need for flashing, it runs smoother and lasts much longer on the same battery. I find the part about your education prompting your choice to be largely ironic given your post quality and your friend is fortunate.
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I find that your argument is flawed somewhat. Android users who frequent these forums tend to stay with Android because they enjoy tinkering with their phones. Something that is simply not possible on WP7. We dont care about XBL integration, we care about custom roms and overclocking...

johnston9234 said:
I find that your argument is flawed somewhat. Android users who frequent these forums tend to stay with Android because they enjoy tinkering with their phones. Something that is simply not possible on WP7. We dont care about XBL integration, we care about custom roms and overclocking...
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^ Windows Phone users do flash custom roms. I flashed my hd7 all the time, I had to unlock it and flash it just to change the search provider from Bing.
On Android I use Spark 360 for XBL integration.
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MattyOnXperiaX10 said:
I was playing counter strike from my dual core android phone, you cant do that on a windows phone.
I can download all my songs of my phone on android(for free but im not gonna tell u where)
I was playing saints row 3 on onlive and dirt 3 which is a little fun experiance that no other experiance that i can get that windows cant.
I have loads of apps to choose from /windows doesnt.
I basically theres nothing windows is fast at really
OMG. Counter Strike On Android! http://cs-portable.net/
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great !! android lover !!

I can just agree with z33dev33l . WP is just smoother and the whole system is more fluid even with one core. Yes you cant modify it the way you can do that with android, but I dont think that you need to. I had a Radar before my Nexus S and I regretted swaping it for the Nexus S because on single core android isnt the smoothest. A few days ago I ve switched back to an HD7 and I love it.
I think you wont regret buying one WP7 device, if you like the Metro style. The Lumia 800 is good but maybe after the S2 the screen is smaller a bit.
BTW: you have the opportunity to flash a custom rom for some WP7 devices (eg.:HD7, but not easy like on android) but you dont need to because its good as it is.

You must haven't tried ICS? It pawns Mango in every way except email. Speed and fluidity.
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I love android phone..

They both have their pros and cons.
I love both OS' but visually and fluid performance, I'd go with WP7. Everything else, Android.
*Disclaimer* My opinion does not speak for the rest of the individuals on this forum.

vetvito said:
You must haven't tried ICS? It pawns Mango in every way except email. Speed and fluidity.
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how was the battery drain in ICS ? i heard the nova launcher is a issue of battery drain also ?!

If you want hardware, get Lumia.
If you want software, get Android.

marcosius said:
If you want hardware, get Lumia.
If you want software, get Android.
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You said that backwards.
Most of these posts are just comical, vetvito was, as usual a riot.
Matty, you've clearly never used or even read anything about WP7. Blind arguments are the funniest.

First Impression of Android?

What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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My first Android powered phone was a Motorola Defy. Of course I didn't know anything about it, not even how it looked like. First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!

Adinaky said:
First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!
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Well said!
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It was awesome, so much possibilities, apps, customizing options,... but then I rooted my android phone, flashed newer android versions and had a lot of fun doing it. Android is awesome.

Before using it, I thought it was microsoft's attempt to compete with apple's os.

I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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Pattttti said:
I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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The same here, if i had to stay with gingerbread it would not have been so awesome as it is now.

Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Pattttti said:
Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Lol......yeah me too.....my name is Chris and I'm a flashoholic
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Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.

Freedom in all ways...

michaelsplus said:
Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.
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Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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guitarman2010 said:
Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
Back to topic:
first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:

dagothe9 said:
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
Back to topic:
first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:
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I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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guitarman2010 said:
I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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We had experiences with the iPhone 3G and wow it was pretty great. Then one of us got the Galaxy S Captivate and it was really great as well. Data with HSPA+ just blew the iPhone away; no contest. And now we have this Apple vs Android battle all over the globe but when we started playing around with Android Dev boards (BeagleBoard for example) and with mainline Linux vs Android, the opportunities for communities to just tear open the commercial market are pushing mobile computing in such a great direction.
The turning point for us was being able to take a microSD with android putting it into the BeagleBoard, having it run; and then subsequently taking it out, putting another microSD card in it this time with Linux compiled for ARM with Arch Linux. At that point, we saw Android in a completely different light. I mean the plug and play abilities of those peripheral drivers alone...having that kind of device knowing that the backing to it is largely a Linux device kind of instills a level of confidence in both security (by the nature of open source whistle blowers) and in performance. Can't wait til Android becomes more than just a phone/tablet OS...give us more Android watches, Android clocks, Android cars; perhaps not in it's current implementation, but a derivative thereof. I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.

Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:

etrosce said:
Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:
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Personally I blame the OEMs. If done right, Android would be no different in lag/latency down to the low level code than a well built JVM on top of a Linux kernel. But as a consumer...I agree; it is unfortunate that Android is subject to bad software design and to make it worse, Android is open to bad design down to the implementation of the SDK.
Overall though I think I would rather encourage Android to get cleaner than Apple to get more open.

guitarman2010 said:
What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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in all honesty i was blown away by the change in everything (came from apple)

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I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.
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I will agree with you on that comment. Apple's iOS brings thoughts of claustrophobia to my mind lol
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(off-topic)apple's first android phone

all know that apple is the world's most famous, loved and reliable company. Has great fan following but when i consider or even think of b s we uying an IDEVICE....i think of loosing all the customization and tweaks i use to do with my own samsung device......i purchased Galaxy note2 few months back and if i compare it now in market, there are almost 5 devices which look exactly same as my Galaxy note2, and how can i forget the build quality(cheap plastic **** all over them).
Being a hardcore gamer i purchased a quadcore device thinking i would be able to play all games(earlier i had tab2 dual core) but now question arises is AM I HAPPY WITH GAMING EXP.?
certainly not. There are lot of title which are not on android and also here THD games into the picture costly galaxy devices doesn't support THD titles but how cum all these are playable on IDEVICES? We all know this but without any lags unbelievable
IOS VS ANDROID less extreme
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less very high
tweaks and fun
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highy stable less ''
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less devs lot ''
choice to work ''
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samsung- keeps cheating apple and increasing sales and earning a lot.
apple- crying and suing samsung
Court-no result
apple vs samsung big fight but apple don't cheat....lol....who cares people want quality this is what samsung does
don't u guys think its the time to return the favour back and apple should take a big step and launch its first android device
like htc did, they are lauching windows as well as android devices playing on both's sides
WHO CARES? MONEY AND CUSTOMERS SATISFACTION SHOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY.
MY QUESTIONS
will this ever happen?
If yes u are ready to buy such device?
Nice Quote:never get too attached to things(IOS) otherwise up will get outdated
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I'm very curious how games developed for Tegra devices work on iOS.

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all know that apple is the world's most ... loved ... company
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Absolutely incorrect, not at all the world's most loved company at all. Everyone hates the fact that they can get away with releasing the same thing each year with the same 5-year-old OS and no innovation and still make the best-selling phone of the year.
No, Apple will never release a device with Android. That's completely absurd. It would be like Microsoft announcing their new Surface which runs Ubuntu out of the box.
Now, I don't actually know what the point of this thread is but the entire bit in the middle is a bit difficult to understand, maybe you could try a different translator?
Finally, the reason games work smoother on iOS is because of app optimisation. It helps that the iPhone has a great GPU but the main reason is that devs only have to optimise their apps for a small range of phones on the App store whereas the apps on the Play store have to work for hundreds of different phones with different chipsets. You get things like Tegra optimised apps but not much more.

Originally Posted by AbhimanyuAryan
all know that apple is the world's most ... loved ... company
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Absolutely incorrect, not at all the world's most loved company at all. Everyone hates the fact that they can get away with releasing the same thing each year with the same 5-year-old OS and no innovation and still make the best-selling phone of the year.
No, Apple will never release a device with Android. That's completely absurd. It would be like Microsoft announcing their new Surface which runs Ubuntu out of the box.
Now, I don't actually know what the point of this thread is but the entire bit in the middle is a bit difficult to understand, maybe you could try a different translator?
Finally, the reason games work smoother on iOS is because of app optimisation. It helps that the iPhone has a great GPU but the main reason is that devs only have to optimise their apps for a small range of phones on the App store whereas the apps on the Play store have to work for hundreds of different phones with different chipsets. You get things like Tegra optimised apps but not much more.
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I tried to create a comparision b/w Android and iOS but since xda apk auto arranges the text it looks like a mess..... by the way what do think people will buy apple running android (if situation)
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AbhimanyuAryan said:
I tried to create a comparision b/w Android and iOS but since xda apk auto arranges the text it looks like a mess..... by the way what do think people will buy apple running android (if situation)
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