What can the s4 powered by an AOSP ROM do that the S3 on an AOSP ROM can not?
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Not a damn thing since its unreleased on Verizon.
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What can the s4 powered by an AOSP ROM do that the S3 on an AOSP ROM can not?
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Nothing. Its aosp. Same features and ****.
The only difference is performance, screen, and physical looks
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Better screen, higher MP camera, hover stuff that might make it into CM. Otherwise it will be the same software the S3 has.
I love newest/latest/greatest...but I think I will be ok with a RC CM10.1 on the S3 vs. back to nightlies on the S4, at least until my next phone comes out (if a nexus comes to vzw again, or if the moto x-phones look good, i'll jump).
an AOSP camera app that doesn't misfocus all the time.
If the S3 can't hold a decent signal in fringe areas with AOSP after a year or two, I don't have high hopes for the S4 to do any better.
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If the S3 can't hold a decent signal in fringe areas with AOSP after a year or two, I don't have high hopes for the S4 to do any better.
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Firstly did you eliminate the fact if it's a ROM issue, a modem driver issue, or the hardware issue? For eg you may want to put on a stock samsung ROM and have a go at the reception comparison.
Secondly, there wasn't any officially built AOSP for the S3.
With the S4, there's gonna be officially built AOSP release that will have all the correct integration with the components
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Firstly did you eliminate the fact if it's a ROM issue, a modem driver issue, or the hardware issue? For eg you may want to put on a stock samsung ROM and have a go at the reception comparison.
Secondly, there wasn't any officially built AOSP for the S3.
With the S4, there's gonna be officially built AOSP release that will have all the correct integration with the components
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It's a known issue. Samsung never officially released the RIL, so the bastardized versions just don't work as well. If you're in a great 4g area, you'll be fine with AOSP, but handshakes are terrible and reception is lacking. Believe me, I've tried pretty much all the roms with multiple phones. When they work, they work well, but when they don't...terrible. It's sad, really, as I would MUCH prefer non-TW...
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/27/google-posts-android-4-1-jelly-bean-images-for-nexus-devices/
Hopefully this will help development for our phone in a 4.1 sense.
Same here. I would love to see a JB port for the Blaze.
It'll be easier to get a port once we have ICS. If Samsung releases it anytime this century... I am still confused for why Cyanogen Mod doesn't support our phone but still supports single core phones lol
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Bulletblitz27 said:
It'll be easier to get a port once we have ICS. If Samsung releases it anytime this century... I am still confused for why Cyanogen Mod doesn't support our phone but still supports single core phones lol
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I'm confused by lack of CM support for the blaze. They still support the cliqxt but lack of support might be because none of their members has the device
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I'm confused by lack of CM support for the blaze. They still support the cliqxt but lack of support might be because none of their members has the device
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That's what I'm thinking. It's more about popularity than actually good hardware. Funny thing is that if CM10 or at least CM9 were available more people would buy this phone. A bunch of people jumped ship and returned this device after looking at the 'slow' development. As of now it's picking up and hope it gets even better. Coming from a G2x, which was a huge waste of potential hardware, I hope this device doesn't meet the same fate. The only reason I didn't buy the Galaxy Nexus was because of its weird hardware (bad camera, random reboots, etc.) Lol
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That's what I'm thinking. It's more about popularity than actually good hardware. Funny thing is that if CM10 or at least CM9 were available more people would buy this phone. A bunch of people jumped ship and returned this device after looking at the 'slow' development. As of now it's picking up and hope it gets even better. Coming from a G2x, which was a huge waste of potential hardware, I hope this device doesn't meet the same fate. The only reason I didn't buy the Galaxy Nexus was because of its weird hardware (bad camera, random reboots, etc.) Lol
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Be patient. As soon as Samsung releases ICS kernel open source for Galaxy S Blaze 4G, we will have more custom ROMs such as CM9 and CM10.
So as many know the International version of the s3 has a lot more development than we do here. But my question here is shouldn't it be pretty easy to port them to the VZW version? Its the same phone. And if we switched up to the kexec kernel or something along those lines and flipped a few switches on the structure of some key apks shouldn't it work on vzw?
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Should yes, easy probably not. Can it be done by some of the Awesome Devs we have around here yes. Will they?? Doesn't hurt to ask.
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Should yes, easy probably not. Can it be done by some of the Awesome Devs we have around here yes. Will they?? Doesn't hurt to ask.
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True. Some MIUI and maybe Gummy would be pretty awesome..
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I would like gummy. Maybe someday
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I am waiting on a non buggy MIUI from the International Gs3. I tried porting one from Galaxy nexus but it didnt boot. I will try again soon someday once our RIL gets worked out. Its really weird right now, its based on a GSM stack when our phone is both CDMA and GSM. They are working on a CDMA stack on r.cyanogenmod.com, and once that gets fully approved I will work on this project.
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So as many know the International version of the s3 has a lot more development than we do here. But my question here is shouldn't it be pretty easy to port them to the VZW version? Its the same phone. And if we switched up to the kexec kernel or something along those lines and flipped a few switches on the structure of some key apks shouldn't it work on vzw?
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It is possible. Entropy did this for the AT&T sgs2 so we could flash anything in the dev forums. The only issue was both sgs2 had the same hardware for the most part except for the buttons. In our case it is different; we have completely different processors. They have a quad core eynkos(lucky *******s) and we have dual core snapdragon. This is just one obstacle of many. The best thing to do would be to go an post in the threads for the Roms that you like in the i9300 forums and ask the dev to port it to our phones. You may not get a response but the more people that ask the chances are better the we will see them port some of those Roms. The best rom over there in my opinion is omega rom. Believe it or not they are listening. That how we go some many ports on the sgs2
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Are we gonna get a unofficial Samsung jelly bean ROM?
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Are we gonna get a unofficial Samsung jelly bean ROM?
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You mean a leak?
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Are we gonna get a unofficial Samsung jelly bean ROM?
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Honestly I hope we do. Were on apples list of copied devices or whatever so its gonna be iffy for sure
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Yeah, a leak. And I really hope so, I love samsungs touchwiz but its hard to turn down jelly bean.
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You guys are lucky you might get jelly bean. Apple can't bother to try to get HTC devices banned because they're not actually a threat. Even if they were, HTC would be lazy and simply remove any infringing software. Us over at the sensation forum have a nearly working jelly bean rom but we won't have front facing camera working without official HTC kernel. Is it the same for you guys?
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You guys are lucky you might get jelly bean. Apple can't bother to try to get HTC devices banned because they're not actually a threat. Even if they were, HTC would be lazy and simply remove any infringing software. Us over at the sensation forum have a nearly working jelly bean rom but we won't have front facing camera working without official HTC kernel. Is it the same for you guys?
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Virtually everything is working perfectly. Camera F+B, video, (Netflix on some builds),etc. The only problems are random reboots / freezing when screen is off but those have drastically reduced recently. There are even mounting of both internal and external SD on R4ins build although torch locks up when screen is off on his build. Our community took jb and ran with it. Daily driver for sure, at least for people who know what there doing and aren't scared of a hiccup or two along the way.
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Are we gonna get a unofficial Samsung jelly bean ROM?
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There is no official JB for the Skyrocket yet, but you can get Vincom's Rom AKA VinRom if you go under developement its there. Not official but its the best ROM out there yet...Fast and very good.
Well take a look at how long it took us to get ICS. I believe we had a official release back in june and the unofficial leak back in December. So if we do get a leak I don't think we'll see one till mid 2013. Also keep in mind that the S3 is out so S2's are now obsolete.
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R4INS' AOKP Jellybean Sept-5 build (with InstigatorX kernel, of course) is definitely the most stable and feature-packed variety of Jellybean available on the Skyrocket right now. I'd be surprised to ever see an official leaked for this device because the S3 replaced the relevance of the entire S2 line.
There are conflicting reports. This one from SamMobile seems to both confirm and leave it in doubt.
Ok, the insiders of SamMobile reported to us that all high-end Galaxy devices will get the Jelly Bean update.
In other words, the Galaxy S II, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Note 10.1 and Galaxy S III.
When we asked Samsung Benelux about this they told us that they couldn’t tell us anything about the updates.
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http://www.sammobile.com/2012/09/06/android-4-1-1-jelly-bean-update-by-samsung-is-still-a-question/
If the note gets It, i wouldn't see why we wouldnt , the hardware is very similar
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R4INS' AOKP Jellybean Sept-5 build is great, I don't have any problem yet.
I wanna install the instigator kernel because I have the 3.0.42 cyanogenmod-g5c2e4b4
the rom is too fast.
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Well take a look at how long it took us to get ICS. I believe we had a official release back in june and the unofficial leak back in December. So if we do get a leak I don't think we'll see one till mid 2013. Also keep in mind that the S3 is out so S2's are now obsolete.
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I disagree. As long as we have good, dedicated developers, the SR is not obsolete. There is little an S3 can do that a SR cannot. Our SR's even have an advantage in some areas over the S3, not the least of which is a long, strong history of quality development. Some users prefer the shape and physical build-quality of the SR over the S3, too.
Obsolete? Skyrockets, especially rooted and modded ones, are way beyond most if the smartphone market.
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I disagree. As long as we have good, dedicated developers, the SR is not obsolete. There is little an S3 can do that a SR cannot. Our SR's even have an advantage in some areas over the S3, not the least of which is a long, strong history of quality development. Some users prefer the shape and physical build-quality of the SR over the S3, too.
Obsolete? Skyrockets, especially rooted and modded ones, are way beyond most if the smartphone market.
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He's speaking from oem perspective
feeling the skyrocket xperiance
I would think that it'd be trivial since they have the same processor, pixel count etc, are released at around the same time by the same company, same s-pen etc.
Seems like it'd be a great way to get jellybean before they actually release it, and tne two communities might really benefit from working together.
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Was thinking same thing myself. Unfortunately our development community is pretty quiet.
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Maybe someone will be brave and try a straight flash of a GN2 Rom on their gn10.1?
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Was thinking same thing myself. Unfortunately our development community is pretty quiet.
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I feel like samsung stuff is always like this for some reason lol..
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I would think that it'd be trivial since they have the same processor, pixel count etc, are released at around the same time by the same company, same s-pen etc.
Seems like it'd be a great way to get jellybean before they actually release it, and tne two communities might really benefit from working together.
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They do not have the same processor or pixel count. The Note 10.1 has a Rev. 1.1 Exynos 4412 and the Note II has a Rev. 2.0 Exynos 4412. Also, the Note 10.1 has a resolution of 1280x800 and lacks hardware buttons. The Note II has a resolution of 1280x720 and has three hardware nav buttons. The SoC difference may be trivial, but the others aren't (Although I'm sure it's possible with some minor tweaks). If you're just eager for JB, just wait for the N8010 JB build and flash it. It works a treat on the N8013.
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Actually I think CM10 works really well besides the camera if you're interested in JB. I barely use the camera on the tablet anyway.
Well the cameras useful but the main thing for me is the spen and snote working
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"Galaxy S2 Plus" What a Joke!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ls-galaxy-s2-plus-with-a-shot-of-android-4.1/
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-unveils-galaxy-s2-plus-minor-spec-bump-over-original
JUST LIKE THE S2:
- The S2 Plus will offer a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor
- 1GB of RAM
- 4.3-inch WVGA Super AMOLED Plus display
- An 8-megapixel camera with an LED flash on the back
- 2-MP camera graces the front
Differences to the S2:
- Many of the plus versions will have NFC
- The Internal memory is 8GB unlike the original 16gb s2's
- Can Support a 64gb card (very likely due to running JB)
- Will come boxed with JB 4.1.2
Main upgrades:
- Plus variant will be running JB.4.1.2 out of the box
So basically Samsung are re-releasing our phone with stock installed JB and will probably retail for a very stupid price, this make me think we are actually going to get an official update well after this releases worldwide which could be a few months. hopefully our devs can port a plus ROM once it leaks. i reckon Samy just getting rid of old stock which was banned to sell in the USA after the APPLE lawsuit, but now the ban has been reversed.
In detail video comparison : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tEDhipUBYc
I'm sure the S2+ jellybean f/w has already been leaked. Does it use an exynos CPU?
If its not broken, don't fix it!
http://www.naeem.pk/samsung-galaxy-s4-leaked-image-showing-buttonless-design/
U forgot to mention that s2 plus camera has zero shutter lag like s3....
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I'm sure the S2+ jellybean f/w has already been leaked. Does it use an exynos CPU?
If its not broken, don't fix it!
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am not too sure
Farooq95 said:
U forgot to mention that s2 plus camera has zero shutter lag like s3....
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in all honesty i bet its just software related, i cant imagine Samsung changing the hardware for the camera, considering they would have to replace the cameras of thousands of already boxed brand new phones. but maybe they changed the camera its a possibility.
Hands On with Samsung Galaxy S 2 Plus - Contains BCM28155 SoC
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Hands On with Samsung Galaxy S 2 Plus - Contains BCM28155 SoC
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if the s2 plus is not using exynos, were not getting a jb update for at least a few months for sure.
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if the s2 plus is not using exynos, were not getting a jb update for at least a few months for sure.
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Yep, we'll have to wait till s2+is released worldwide and then the updates will begin to roll out. Add another month to that for each individual region. Ironically jb has already started rolling out for the galaxy s advance... I dont understand Samsung's crazy marketing strategy. With the amount of time they've taken for the update we should be getting 4.2...
Sorry for going a little off topic.
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Bless izap and his leak..people putting there S2's in the microwave by now if we never got that. Mine has never ran better with Neat Rom Lite and Siyah Kernel. No freezes or fcs.
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Its called milking the cash cow.
The Name - Galaxy S2 is quite popular so why not make a plus version and sell few more millions ?
Anyway who gives a **** about when they will release when we have NeatRom Lite and jeboo kernel
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They aren't using Exynos.
GPU is Broadcom IV, so its not Exynos.
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Anyway who gives a **** about when they will release when we have NeatRom Lite and jeboo kernel
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I think Siyah Kernel is much better but its your choice give siyah kernel a try as well
I am using Siyah Kernel and i am loving it
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I think Siyah Kernel is much better but its your choice give siyah kernel a try as well
I am using Siyah Kernel and i am loving it
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I have tried it but only problem is that I don't know as It happens with me only I don't know why.... while charging it becomes almost unusable.....the ui t lags touch is unresponsive etc But off the charger it its Perfectly fine......
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Farooq95 said:
I have tried it but only problem is that I don't know as It happens with me only I don't know why.... while charging it becomes almost unusable.....the ui t lags touch is unresponsive etc But off the charger it its Perfectly fine......
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Must be something wrong with your device maybe it's got something to do with settings, i don't know but i havent had that problem with siyah
to be honest i havent had a single problem so far with siyah at all
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Must be something wrong with your device maybe it's got something to do with settings, i don't know but i havent had that problem with siyah
to be honest i havent had a single problem so far with siyah at all
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Dude have wiped ,reseted the device several times and still no luck except for jeboo and philz
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If you think deeper you may realize this is not a bad thing. So they are realising "new" s2. since its "new" phone, it may mean that they plan to upgrade it to
further versions of android? If so, since its almost the same phone, that could man further versions of android for us also.
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If you think deeper you may realize this is not a bad thing. So they are realising "new" s2. since its "new" phone, it may mean that they plan to upgrade it to
further versions of android? If so, since its almost the same phone, that could man further versions of android for us also.
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The truth is it'll be the opposite going forward. SGS2 and SGS2+ don't share same h/w components and their launch has a long gap.
Its a hint that support for SGS2 will stop soon
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I think this is a good news because if the hardware is almost alike, its firmware will be easy to be ported into our phones
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