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I've read in many places that Samsung put hardware acceleration in their browser on their phones.
If that's true, why is browsing so unbelievably jerky? I'm running the latest Firefly ROM, FYI. My co-worker was showing me his iPhone 4 and its browsing experience, and it just completely demolished my Captivate.
Well maybe the site you were on had flash stuff on it. That will slow down the browser regardless of whether or not it has been hardware accelerated.
I haven't seen any big lags on the captivate i'm using right now, even with flash. Even with my HD2, browsing isn't laggy.
The test site we were using was Engadget, the desktop version (not the mobile version). So I guess mine was much more choppier because it had Flash going on, while the iPhone did not?
try turning off plugins and compare again. ill bet it's the flash
Dani897 said:
try turning off plugins and compare again. ill bet it's the flash
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Nope. Turned off Flash as well as disabling Javascript, same old. Jerky and very unsmooth. Not to mention it checkerboards.
You should see how fast the browser is in the leaked 2.3 rom that popped up two weeks ago. The speed difference between the 2.2 and leaked 2.3 browser is VERY noticeable and makes the 2.2 browser look like the alpha leak.
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You should see how fast the browser is in the leaked 2.3 rom that popped up two weeks ago. The speed difference between the 2.2 and leaked 2.3 browser is VERY noticeable and makes the 2.2 browser look like the alpha leak.
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Is it possible to put the browser from the 2.3 into 2.2 ROMs?
there is no gurantee that hardware accellerated browsing made it through the rom cutting process, there are many things removed as "bloat ware" that arent bad or carrier applied, also you mentioned with "their browser" does your rom use "their browser"?
"hardware accelerated" doesnt mean "will just work".
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there is no gurantee that hardware accellerated browsing made it through the rom cutting process, there are many things removed as "bloat ware" that arent bad or carrier applied, also you mentioned with "their browser" does your rom use "their browser"?
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I have no idea if Firefly uses the Samsung browser. I'll ask in the ROM thread. Still, it's pretty pathetic the difference between the iPhone user experience and the Android user experience.
my browsing is great, even on flash video sites like watch.thecomedynetwork.ca (canada only). everything loads quick and plays nicely, with default browser and dolphin browser.
its possible your phone doesnt like the modem your rom uses. try a new modem.
its kind of unfair to flash custom software and say the "phone" is worse than another, you arent comparing to stock approved software for your phone and location.
its like saying your computer sucks because it got a virus..
Trusselo said:
my browsing is great, even on flash video sites like watch.thecomedynetwork.ca (canada only). everything loads quick and plays nicely, with default browser and dolphin browser.
its possible your phone doesnt like the modem your rom uses. try a new modem.
its kind of unfair to flash custom software and say the "phone" is worse than another, you arent comparing to stock approved software for your phone and location.
its like saying your computer sucks because it got a virus..
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I tried multiple modems. First one was JL2, I'm on JK4 now. I don't see how a modem would equate to displaying a webpage. Loading, yes, but displaying, how?
I'm running a custom ROM to give this phone a fair chance. Running the complete garbage that is stock ROM on this phone is laughable at best.
if your browser is checkerboarding you must be on the stock 2.2.1 browser that is horrible. find the 2.2.1 browser thread and i have a .zip in there will fix checkerboarding and somewhat the gif issue also.
and even if the iphone browser is a little smoother(which i didnt notice a big difference in my iphone 4 and captivate), the 2.2(and 2.1 for that matter) browser loads pages significantly faster. mine did every page every time. the iphones browser also seems smoother when zooming because it does not reflow text AT ALL. our phones do. ill take the text reflowing any day.
are you using any task managers or antivirus programs? anything that may be running in the background on boot and/or scanning what you are doing/veiwing?
Hardware accelerated browser app is on the leaked Samsung ginngerbread that doesn't work on our cappies?
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are you using any task managers or antivirus programs? anything that may be running in the background on boot and/or scanning what you are doing/veiwing?
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No, I use none of them. I'm aware that Froyo negates the need for any type of task manager/task killers. No anti-virus either (unnecessary).
All I'm doing is opening the browser and viewing a page like Engadget. The scrolling/pinch to zoom is very jerky and is not fluid at all.
Just to add what the OP is saying, I am on Cognition 3.04 and I notice the browser is jerky when scrolling and just generally laggy when scrolling or re-sizing. I would say worse than stock in terms of the experience on the page, not talking about load times.
Running Cognition 4.1.1 here and it seems good to me. Maybe a little jerky on scrolling but nothing serious. Pinch zoom is smooth.
I feel like my user experience got worse after the upgrade from 2.1 stock to 2.2 stock. I have plug-ins set to on demand.
as above,
is it me or everyone that the web browser in Nexus S really loads page at a very slow rate compared to iphones?
im saying this because during rides in underground trains, all the iphones and ipads around me seem to load pages without any hiccup, yet i have problem loading even the google page.
Even when placed side by side, loading times are inferior compared to the iphone safari.
PS: im not creating an iphone vs nexus thread, just asking out of curiosity
On paper, the android browser is faster then iOS', but the nexus s doesn't have video acceleration, so loading flash content or images is pathetically slow and laggy, which is very disappointing for a pure google experience phone, they really screwed this up.
Custom UIs like touchwiz and htc sense do have hardware acceleration, so the browser is blazing fast (really, really fast and definitely out stands the iphone, that's the only thing I miss from my old HTC Desire), but the vanilla android doesn't, at least until ice cream sandwich comes out.
This, or your phone probably had poor coverage in that area. Anyhow, yes, the nexus s browsing experience is lame and google should be ashamed with their device.
Edit: As an alternative, you can use opera mobile (not mini) which is very responsive and smooth, but it tends to render the pages after they are fully loaded, not on the go, so it may seem slower then the stock browser, much slower. On wifi it runs well tho.
Eh you get me wrong, I mean that it slow on loading page not when surfing the page ...
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dplate07 said:
as above,
is it me or everyone that the web browser in Nexus S really loads page at a very slow rate compared to iphones?
im saying this because during rides in underground trains, all the iphones and ipads around me seem to load pages without any hiccup, yet i have problem loading even the google page.
Even when placed side by side, loading times are inferior compared to the iphone safari.
PS: im not creating an iphone vs nexus thread, just asking out of curiosity
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no service underground maybe?
I had this problem too. Not only slow loading pages. Sometimes it not load at all. I had to touch and hold and choose open to load the page.
Its because the kernel combined with unsuitable ROM. After I flashed another rom and kernel. I solved this problem.
And to make sure ur speed internet connection, u can use apps called speedtest.net its free on the market.
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rejanmanis said:
I had this problem too. Not only slow loading pages. Sometimes it not load at all. I had to touch and hold and choose open to load the page.
Its because the kernel combined with unsuitable ROM. After I flashed another rom and kernel. I solved this problem.
And to make sure ur speed internet connection, u can use apps called speedtest.net its free on the market.
Sent from my Nexus S I9020T
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Yea, i have experienced such problems also ! Even when im in outdoor areas, sometimes when i click a link, it won't load... i have to click the link again.
Unsuitable kernel and ROM? But i am using stock...
Is this issue a software or hardware issue?
Hi all
I have a galaxy Tab and Nexus S ..when Nexus S is faster the bowser isnt impressive on both devices..
I yesterdfay installed OVERCOME rom on my Galaxy Tab and..browser is even smoother than IPAD..i mean really really buttery smooth i will try to upload a video..Can any one using Overcome rom confirm me the changes made so that we can have same quality of browser on Nexus S because GOOGLE so far is behaving like a **** to us..
Its a reall wonderful i checked now on galaxy Tab.Specs are same for Nexus S.Please i need positive replies..currently there is no rom which makes browser buttery smooth...Let me tell you Opera is very smooth but in case of OVERCOME rom now stock browser is matchless fastest and smoothest browser i have seen in life...much smooth what apple can offer thats a fact even with FLASh on
Opera is smooth but the interface is not user friendly. It would be great if xda developers can mod nexus s browser
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opera is s smooth bro but The browser mod i talked about is much buttery than opera...is their anyone from Google team on this thread...such a expensive phone with a pathetic browser...
Can anyone confirm a ROM which includes galaxy S JPu browser...It was a great browser
Let me verify that FLASH is not responsible for LAG...i confirmed this s from my experience of android phones till date.
This is not connected with Flash performance. Problem occurs on many browsers not only stock browser. Only ones that work fine is Opera or firefox (but slower).
O think this is a driver problem - same lag exists in Waze app (free gps application) while not occuring on for example DHD.
cant they make drivers for their flagship device..thats certainly unbelivable
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cant they make drivers for their flagship device..thats certainly unbelivable
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Yeah, the situation is extremely frustrating. I probably would return my Nexus if it was possible at this point. The browser issue can be fixed by using opera (which is everything except perfect), but there are a lot of other ui elements that suffer from this too.
Can't believe nexus has had this good reviews as it has. Also, I can't believe Google's attitude towards this problem, perhaps they can fix it with ice-cream sandwich, but that ain't coming until Q4, a year after the phone's launch.
I find it quite interesting that other android phones, phones with skins, don't suffer the lag issue - or nearly to the extent the nexus suffers. God, it simply isn't acceptable to wait until November-September time frame... iPhone may be limited to the extreme, but at least it works. I loved my Desire from the beginning, should have not sold it.
Please, star the bug report from the link.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...c=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars&id=13404
There is yet another bug report for the whole UI.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...pu&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
And also a bug report concerning hw-acceleration, marked as solved, but it still has a lot of new reports.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...rs&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
I, personally, and probably many others, would appreciate if users that experience (all?) there problems would star these as issues, or at least the first one.
gee i thought i was the only one who noticed this lag
i come from an iphone, so i know what "buttery smooth" means... the nexus s is NOT "buttery smooth"
the stock browser SUCKS.. can't handle images very well (try scrolling up and down http://www.anandtech.com/ you'll see what i mean)
i use opera because it's the smoothest browser out there... i've tried firefox and stock browser wrappers like dolphin, miren, etc but they all lag in comparison... i use opera with the stock browser's user agent because web developers don't care about opera (browse the internet with stock opera settings and u'll see what i mean)
btw, do you think this will work? [MOD][JVQ] NEW LAGFREE BROWSER for DEODEXED JVQ-ROMS
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.. i use opera with the stock browser's user agent because web developers don't care about opera (browse the internet with stock opera settings and u'll see what i mean)
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How do you use opera with stock agent?
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my browser is buttery smooth.. im using the latest cm7(nightlies and kangs) with the trinity11 kernel.
Cmmts said:
Yeah, the situation is extremely frustrating. I probably would return my Nexus if it was possible at this point. The browser issue can be fixed by using opera (which is everything except perfect)...
Can't believe nexus has had this good reviews as it has. Also, I can't believe Google's attitude towards this problem, ...I find it quite interesting that other android phones, phones with skins, don't suffer the lag issue -
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What I think is interesting is how many people on the forums who say they love this phone because it is "PURE GOOGLE!" as if they did not realize that the issues are not getting fixed in a timely manner. (radio issues, battery issues, browser lag, etc.)
I'm using opera as well. The stock browser is a pile of garbage when there's more than a few images. It's pretty sad.
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my browser is buttery smooth.. im using the latest cm7(nightlies and kangs) with the trinity11 kernel.
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try browsing websites with multiple images (www.anandtech.com www.futureshop.ca etc...)
if it doesn't lag at all for you (iphone smooth) then i might have to give CM7 nightly and trinity kernel a try too
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try browsing websites with multiple images (www.anandtech.com www.futureshop.ca etc...)
if it doesn't lag at all for you (iphone smooth) then i might have to give CM7 nightly and trinity kernel a try too
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uploading a video for you. sorry about the quality, its recorded on my original droid.
ShadowVlican said:
try browsing websites with multiple images ( etc...)
if it doesn't lag at all for you (iphone smooth) then i might have to give CM7 nightly and trinity kernel a try too
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here you go, i went to both sites http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKLTpgYXae0
wow that's impressive! what's your secret?
i can't stand the stock browser lag... and i can't stand the non-webkit opera... i want the best of both worlds (smooth and well supported, respectively)
here's a video i just made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpuaNanxdEE
this test is repeatable with stock rom, previous netarchy kernels, trinity uv11 kernel... haven't tried cm7 though
now i just might have to cm7 nightly and/or trinity kernel... i have a feeling it has something to do with cm7 nightly
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here you go, i went to both sites http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKLTpgYXae0
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The browser is usually pretty fast after a fresh reboot. Give it a couple of days without a reboot and the browser slows down quite a bit even with cm 7.1 nightly and trinity kernel.
That being said, cm 7.1 does have some performance mods that make it faster than stock.
So is the browser laggy or websites not configured right for mobile view
Happens on my tablet some sites are great and some not so good
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Its the browser... opera can handle these websites no problem... so can my iPhone 3gs
I will try cm7 nightly
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wow that's impressive! what's your secret?
i can't stand the stock browser lag... and i can't stand the non-webkit opera... i want the best of both worlds (smooth and well supported, respectively)
here's a video i just made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpuaNanxdEE
this test is repeatable with stock rom, previous netarchy kernels, trinity uv11 kernel... haven't tried cm7 though
now i just might have to cm7 nightly and/or trinity kernel... i have a feeling it has something to do with cm7 nightly
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eww.. i see what youre talking about. im glad that i dont get that! what kind of data speeds do you see, because that will affect it too.
I am a newbie to the HTC sensation as I have had a desire for the last 18 months. The desire was rooted and had many ROMs in its lifetime.
Anyway, I got a sensation today which immediately rooted and installed AHRD ICS ROM. I have been playing with it but havent noticed any major differences other then the layout of a menus are different.
What features is ICS is bringing over 2.3? I can't see any advantages other than a slightly different layout.
Here's a list from Google: http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
A more detailed explanation: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html
The main things I like about ICS are the data usage monitor, browser sync with Chrome, face unlock is actually quite decent, much better voice dictation and battery life seems better too.
Of course, there are the visual changes but these are masked by Sense along with the improved keyboard.
Yes thanks, maybe I was expecting too much. I've gone back to 2.3 for the time bring as I find it quicker and more stable.
I've been wondering this same thing. As far as the "good" points mentioned above, I already have a usage monitor with 2.3.5, I use Opera browser which syncs perfectly with my desktop browser, battery life is more than enough for what I need, and I really don't see the point of face unlock. I've actually grown to really like sense. I'll probably try cm9 when (if?) it comes out but until then I'm going to stick with what works.
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I've been wondering this same thing. As far as the "good" points mentioned above, I already have a usage monitor with 2.3.5, I use Opera browser which syncs perfectly with my desktop browser, battery life is more than enough for what I need, and I really don't see the point of face unlock. I've actually grown to really like sense. I'll probably try cm9 when (if?) it comes out but until then I'm going to stick with what works.
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Fair points!
I used to just use the data monitor widget but it's nice to have it built in, I use Chrome so desktop sync felt overdue. Face Unlock is somewhat gimmicky but it actually works quite well, it's just another option to unlock my phone that I was curious about.
Maybe its just the combination of firmware and radio, but my battery life on ICS (Virtuous Inquisition) is leagues better than I had with GB. Also, using a senseless rom has a lot more visual differences from GB, Sense was tailored to make the user experience uniform across all versions.
Hey all,
I get my phone tomorrow, and coming from an Incredible 2 that was running paranoid android ROM i am anxious to see what this can do with the same sort of software, bigger screen.
I really like stock roms, and although all the software tricks the s3 does sounds good, I dont think I would use many of them.
So question is, are all the JB roms pretty much stable?
The Incredible 2 was missing any camera features (just wouldnt work) and google now was non existant...
But yeah, which way would you go?
I've tried Synergy ROM and also Paranoid Android. Personally I am loving PA right now. In the most recent stable build 1.9.5 nearly everything was working. There are some minor (to me) things like not being able to send MMS, but the fluidity of JellyBean is so worth it and Google Now works flawlessly. With the screen being as big as it is, the on screen keys don't seem to take up too much room for me, and I've really gotten used to them. It also disables the backlight for the physical keys so they disappear in the phone. Again...with the screen size, hybrid mode is really nice. The dual-pane display make going through setting a lot easier and really it just looks fantastic. One huge part for me was the JB messaging app. The stock TW one just looked so ugly, it made me hate texting...
Anyway, some of the motion features were nice, the ones I used the most were the swipe to capture screenshot and also direct call from messaging (putting the phone up to your ear whilst in a text conversation) but the rest were pretty worthless IMO.
If you don't feel like dealing with a not so functioning camera and a few other bugs, I would go with Synergy. Noticably faster than stock, I even got faster data speeds, too. Just anything but stock haha.
Any more questions let me know.
stevenjcampbell said:
Hey all,
I get my phone tomorrow, and coming from an Incredible 2 that was running paranoid android ROM i am anxious to see what this can do with the same sort of software, bigger screen.
I really like stock roms, and although all the software tricks the s3 does sounds good, I dont think I would use many of them.
So question is, are all the JB roms pretty much stable?
The Incredible 2 was missing any camera features (just wouldnt work) and google now was non existant...
But yeah, which way would you go?
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Personally, it never made much sense to me to run a ROM as your DD that disables basic functions like MMS.
I have tried all the available ROMs just to satisfy my curiosity at that point, but I always end up back with the root66 as it is every bit as fast and fluid as any other ROM (claims that another ROM are noticeably faster than a debloated stock setup are total BS) and every function works perfectly. I do run synergy at times also and it's awesome as well.
I have a setup running NOVA Launcher that is awesome. Apex and Nova where always a bit laggy in previous phones but the response is virtually instant and it's smooth and fluid in the G3 so anybodies claims that another ROM can make this setup noticeably faster are just a placebo IMHO.
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Personally, it never made much sense to me to run a ROM as your DD that disables basic functions like MMS.
I have tried all the available ROMs just to satisfy my curiosity at that point, but I always end up back with the root66 as it is every bit as fast and fluid as any other ROM (claims that another ROM are noticeably faster than a debloated stock setup are total BS) and every function works perfectly. I do run synergy at times also and it's awesome as well.
I have a setup running NOVA Launcher that is awesome. Apex and Nova where always a bit laggy in previous phones but the response is virtually instant and it's smooth and fluid in the G3 so anybodies claims that another ROM can make this setup noticeably faster are just a placebo IMHO.
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Agreed. I think the only reason I don't run stock (or any debloated form of stock is just because I'm flash happy and really like active development of Team Synergy)
I'm running Synergy 1.5 right now - no complaints here. Runs smoothly and I'm also using Nova and not seeing any lag. Recently flashed the leankernel and cpu editor script. Will see if that makes any difference in battery life. Even if it doesn't, I won't be upset because let's face it...I'm a heavy user of the device. I've purchased a couple extra batteries (with a charging cradle) that I can just pop in and out when needed. Best solution for me!