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Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
Go to romkitchen.org and build your own there. There are many threads about the advantages of one modem over another, and you can pick pretty much everything yourself. Then search for CLShortfuse's GPS fix and you'll be set.
Don't worry, its extremely easy
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24-30 hours of what kind of use? There are a couple roms out there with stock appearance
Cognition
Perception
Precision
Andromeda
Docs
30 hours, you have to consider what you are asking. I want faster dl, no lag, better gps, but I don't want to eat any more battery. It is possible to get 30hrs of light to moderate use. Heavy use will yield 12-18
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for. You have to try roms that you think will be what you want.
rodimus_prime said:
Ok, I was an early adopter of this phone bought it the day it came out July 18th. There are a great many things that disappoint me about this phone, main thing being lack of Froyo at the moment. I'm tired of waiting for samsung, I have little faith it will truely resolve my issues which are the following
In order to use wifi I must reboot my phone, this only occurred after the official JH7 was loaded on it through the over the air update that ATT did.
Constantly having lag all the time, and having apps running that I never ever use and dont want such as ATT Navigator, ATT Family Map, etc. I was able to root the phone and get rid of those but it really hasnt helped.
My stereo bluetooth headphones must be paired EVERY single time I want to use them, its not the headphones because they work perfectly with 4 other devices.
Of course the GPS, it sucks for everyone, any of these or all fix that? Samsung seems unwilling.
So maybe I'm wishing too much but I've watched almost every youtube review of the ROMs that are out there and theres a few details that stick out for things that I want in a rom so I'll detail them here and hopefully someone can point me in the right direction as to which one has the best combo.
1. froyo based, I need 2.2 for certain apps
2. I've heard theres different modems that can affect HSPA, I want fastest download and upload.
3. No wild color schemes, I dont like orange or green. I quite like the look of the phone I think samsung did a great job with the touchwiz and I know theres alot of you out there that perfer the "vanilla" versions of Android. I'm not one of those people. I really loved the look of the cognition rom and some of the things it had visually.
4. Overclocking would be nice but not at the expense of battery life, I'm right in the 24-30 hour range just as most are on here, better would be great if possible.
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shoman94 said:
Andromeda v1.2 is a rom that is pretty vanilla....simple and has the things your looking for.
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+2 for Andromeda 1.2.
You can fix all of these if you root the phone. The best ROM out there is the Rom Kitchen (aka "Doc's ROMs") over at romkitchen.org. You can "cook up" your own ROMs using the specifications you want. This is what is so great about the ROM kitchen, especially when compared to the other ROMs like Cognition: you can pick what you want, and don't have to take whatever it was that someone else decided was best. For example, if you want the benefits of rooting but want to keep touchwiz, the ROM kitchen has an option for that. It also lets you pick things like the theme, boot animation, apps, etc. There are 5 captivate modems, and you might just have to experiment to see which one is best. I did this, and it was well worth it. The one that worked best for me was the XXJPP modem. Just load a seperate ROM with each of the different modems, flash each, and download a few things to see which is faster. Also check and see how well the GPS works on each.
Rooting will fix the lag, although one of the ROM kitchen kernels (Glitterball's Voodoo) will improve it even further. There is something called "Project Voodoo" which is a community of developers who build a kernel tweak called Voodoo which completely fixes the remaining lag issue (this is caused by the inefficient way the captivate organizes its folders), and also improves a few other features such as resolution.
You should go try out my ROM its small and fast and stable. I'm getting great battery life and DL/UL speeds. Give it a shot.
Here.
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
rodimus_prime said:
Well I decided to go with the serendipity 5.9, I love the speed, my upload and download speeds almost doubled, bluetooth and wifi finally work like they are supposed to!!
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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Use the add on kitchen and add samsung keyboard. download zip and flash.
rodimus_prime said:
I do have a few complaints though, like the keyboard for texting, I loved the samsung one, I hate swipe any way i can get the stock one back on there?
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It comes with the Gingerbread keyboard as well.
However, if you're still interested in the Samsung keyboard, it's in here:
http://serendipityrom.weebly.com/add-ons.html
I just found that, wow, short of having a flash on the camera and video chat this phone is now everything I could have ever dreamed of
Holy crap what a difference. Everything actually works and is super fast. I would be on cloud nine right now except for the fact I'm probably soon getting the Atrix, this will def hold me over till then.
Im using Precision 3.5 with the monochrome 3.5 theme. Its running the latest suckerpunch kernel. For sure my favorite combo I've tried so far. Its really amazing, not to mention dev'd by ryude, who is one of the best!
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
I have tried the team phoenix roms. I'm currently running phoenix 7.0 and am happy so far.
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I am running phoenix. 7 with latest paragon 1200 rom using uv and this is by far the best combo I have had yet. Using jl3 modem and call quality is great. I change roms almost daily and this one will be here for a while, I am happy with everything this combo has to offer and speed and battery life is excellent.
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Samsung Captivate running Serendipity 5.12 Paragon6 1200-100hz (uv'd and slightly oc'd) and I9000XXJVE modem. Almost have it edited/themed up how I want it. Need to get started on custom icons and I think I want to try my hand at a completely custom framework. Anyway, I was perfectly happy with 'dipity out of the box, but since I've flashed Paragon this phone is AMAZING. It's quite fast and the battery seems to last forever. Just now recharging for the first cycle after having to reflash my rom w/o a full battery, so after today I'll know for sure how long the battery last, but initially it seems like I'll get a day or so with my daughter constantly playing video's and games all day.
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...How quickly things change, now running Serendipity 6 with all the above still the same.. although I think I may flash the 1400 Paragon and try that out..
just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
rodimus_prime said:
just went up to Serendipity 6.2 yesterday, same battery issues again im trying to do what I did last time to fix that part
busy day though, just got an ipad last night been trying to ha0xr that thing, no luck on jailbreaking 4.3 yet though
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14:25:12 uptime, moderate use and I'm t 70%
I guess every phone is different...
im still working through my first charge after wiping the battery stats so im sure it will be better once I cycle through
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
rodimus_prime said:
In those screen shots posted how did you get those multiple icons at the bottom? i mean other than the stock serendipity theme. im running the redrom right now, i dont want to lose the red but i would like the more icons at the bottom other than the phone the :: for app tray and the globe for internet
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I wouldn't mind knowing either. I'm thinking it's a different launcher, but I'm only guessing. Still kinda new to android.
So I have tried every launcher out there and every single one has lag on this dual core phone with 1g of ram. Any more than three widgets on the stock TW Launcher with three, five or seven screens lags. Same on Launcher Pro, SS Launcher, Go Launcher, ADW EX, Regina 3D, MX Home, Nemus, Hi Launcher, and all the rest. The only launcher that doesn't lag for me is SPB Shell, but it has no lock for the desktop and the widgets tend to want to move when swiping the screens.
How is it that a dual core phone with 1g of ram lags? I have a feeling it is the OS.
There are a lot of variables missing from this question. However, it should be noted that launchers get faster as you use them. If your impressions are based off of the first few minutes of use with each one, then go back and give them some time. Fixing permissions in rom manager can help sometimes as well, as can re-flashing or picking a new rom.
GoldfishTX said:
There are a lot of variables missing from this question. However, it should be noted that launchers get faster as you use them. If your impressions are based off of the first few minutes of use with each one, then go back and give them some time. Fixing permissions in rom manager can help sometimes as well, as can re-flashing or picking a new rom.
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Okay, so I am on stock rom stock kernel rooted. I have spent a good amount of time with the TW Launcher, Go Launcher, Zeam, and Launcher Pro. Not a single one has ever gotten smoother with time. This is my sixth android in the last four years. It has always been like this as I have never had a launcher on any device that was as smooth as butter. I was finally thinking that a dual core with 1g of ram would probably handle this but alas no, still lag. What is it going to take for the Android OS to be smooth? Every time I upgrade I think this time it will be better. I would hope the new quad cores will finally be lag free, but of course Google will be updating to Jellybean by the end of the year and most likely will bring back the lag to even quad cores. One has to wonder why Google is constantly making the OS more and more CPU and GPU hungry instead of optimizing what we have and getting the current iteration perfect. It get's really old constantly beta testing devices that are 5 to 6 hundred dollars. Maybe it wouldn't be such a problem if Google had some form of customer service that actually worked. But as it stands a forum (Google Help forum) filled with unanswered questions and concerns is no help at all.
I'm not experiencing any lag... just like many, many other users, who have their "butter smooth experience".
Being logic about it, considering it doesn't happen to every Skyrocket user, but it does happen to you no matter which phone are you in, with all due respect, I would assume it's not about the system itself.
Hope you don't take it the wrong way, but I'd check my applications and settings, instead of blaming another party.
petrochemicals said:
Okay, so I am on stock rom stock kernel rooted. I have spent a good amount of time with the TW Launcher, Go Launcher, Zeam, and Launcher Pro. Not a single one has ever gotten smoother with time. This is my sixth android in the last four years. It has always been like this as I have never had a launcher on any device that was as smooth as butter. I was finally thinking that a dual core with 1g of ram would probably handle this but alas no, still lag. What is it going to take for the Android OS to be smooth? Every time I upgrade I think this time it will be better. I would hope the new quad cores will finally be lag free, but of course Google will be updating to Jellybean by the end of the year and most likely will bring back the lag to even quad cores. One has to wonder why Google is constantly making the OS more and more CPU and GPU hungry instead of optimizing what we have and getting the current iteration perfect. It get's really old constantly beta testing devices that are 5 to 6 hundred dollars. Maybe it wouldn't be such a problem if Google had some form of customer service that actually worked. But as it stands a forum (Google Help forum) filled with unanswered questions and concerns is no help at all.
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I don't know how you're having this problem. Mine is super smooth and responsive even on go launcher which is reported the slowest among the community. I guess you have too many widgets
xcrazydx said:
I don't know how you're having this problem. Mine is super smooth and responsive even on go launcher which is reported the slowest among the community. I guess you have too many widgets
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Go launcher is supposed to be the slowest? It's buttery smooth on mine. Which one would be the fastest?
To the OP, maybe as stated above, you have too many widgets. Could you provide a screenshot or simply a list of widgets/apps to show us what your working with?
The fastest launcher would be regular adw(not ex) or launcher pro. They have the least bloat of them all. Some of the asian launchers like 360 or espier are very fast as well.
Kagenui said:
Go launcher is supposed to be the slowest? It's buttery smooth on mine. Which one would be the fastest?
To the OP, maybe as stated above, you have too many widgets. Could you provide a screenshot or simply a list of widgets/apps to show us what your working with?
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Yeah, go launcher is one of the bigger and slower launchers. The more animations, customization, and file size will make them slower. But Go launcher is smooth for me. But like tom said, adw and launcher pro are lighter weight, less footprint and therefore faster
Apex launcher works great. The problem is he is stock. And stock kernel.
Ditch stock you silly sally.
Use a custom rom .
Nova launcher if you're in ICS, working good here even when I have underclocked to 1.02 Ghz
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nemesis launcher best i tried
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I think the best ICS launcher is "Nova". But, you have to have root to use it.
Just take Silvers advice and flash a new kernel. I have the same problem when I'm stock on stock. Currently I'm stock rooted ICS touchwiz with Romracers kernel, fully bloated, no apps on sd, and I have zero lag. I you do a lot of flashing get in the habit of wiping everything.
Infekxion said:
Just take Silvers advice and flash a new kernel. I have the same problem when I'm stock on stock. Currently I'm stock rooted ICS touchwiz with Romracers kernel, fully bloated, no apps on sd, and I have zero lag. I you do a lot of flashing get in the habit of wiping everything.
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What version are you using?
This rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426590
with this radio: http://d-h.st/8si
plus this kernal: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437563
Equals best Skyrocket experience I've ever had.
Just follow the instructions in the thread!!! Can't stress this enough.
skaoiboy said:
This rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426590
with this radio: http://d-h.st/8si
plus this kernal: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437563
Equals best Skyrocket experience I've ever had.
Just follow the instructions in the thread!!! Can't stress this enough.
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I tried that rom and saw that the wallpaper chooser was broken as it did not add scrolling wallpapers. Also have tried that kernel and it did not notice any difference in stock roms behavior. Not to discredit anything those devs have done.
Then it's just you.
skaoiboy said:
Then it's just you.
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Bahaha see I'm not the only one. If your unhappy with your experience GET AN IPHONE or BUILD A ROM YOURSELF thousands of threads out there time to learn end user
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I have never had lag my phone is responsive even stock the only one that was tricky was my Samsung moment
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we all understand that this phone as you have it does not work for you, but frankly i dont think anyone here cares and wants to listen to you complain about it and i dont know what you were expecting to get out of a thread that consists entirely of you complaining about something. maybe before you buy your next phone you should try testing it out in the store to see if it lives up to your standards. for me this phone is lag free on mhx superlite v4.2 with romracers kernel UCALC4 modem. if you really want a faster bug free experience try seanzscreams skyics 7.4 with fauxs kernel i used it for about 2 months before and only had to pull the battery once. just to be fair about android it is impossible for google to get it right because in the nature of open source Google can not force the OEMs to optimize it fully and they usually dont because it is money that they could be spending on releasing more phones. also the rom and kernel make a HUGE difference. i just put aokp 4.0.4 on my friends verizon fascinate which was on gingerbread and before it lagged in everything and constantly froze up but now it is at least as fast as the skyrocket on stock. that is why many people go for androids because if they dont like something or want to change or improve the user experience they can do it very easily but everything is not guaranteed to work perfectly. since everything working perfectly is one of your factors i would highly suggest looking at either iOS or at WP7 or if you decide to stay with android (which has undoubtedly gotten less laggy over the years and will continue to improve) look at the phone in the store to see if it is fast enough on stock. i have heard the HTC One series is very fast
Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
Stock JB was very laggy on my NS for some reason. Even swipping pages in the home screen was laggy. Some apps would instantly crash, too.
I've been running custom JB roms on my Nexus S, and its been running really well. The only thing is im experiencing the same lag that you do with Google Now. It has caused me to open my browser to do a search, which is disappointing, because in GB and ICS, the Google Search bar was so quick and convenient.
shyguyhighfive said:
Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
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The cards could be taking longer to load because of your flaky connectivity. Can't expect them to load instantly if your data/signal is dying all the time, can you?
Definitely an inferior experience here on stock JB compared to ICS. Really hope Google fix this in an incremental update, as it's a bit silly their second-best phone can't run JB properly.
polobunny said:
The cards could be taking longer to load because of your flaky connectivity. Can't expect them to load instantly if your data/signal is dying all the time, can you?
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heh, that's a fair point. I'm not so upset with the cards taking a long time to load as I am that, while they are loading, the OS is very unstable. It's difficult for me to bring up the keyboard and search google while it's trying to load those cards. I can't believe it's not butter
Nothijngrad said:
Definitely an inferior experience here on stock JB compared to ICS. Really hope Google fix this in an incremental update, as it's a bit silly their second-best phone can't run JB properly.
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My thoughts exactly . I was excited to get back on stock so I could have a functional phone without any added bells and whistles. New features are nice, but not at this price.
Try running a custom kernel.. Try the thalamus kernel its very stockish and it's SUPER smooth..
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I'm running stock on [email protected] with a matrix kernel everything smooth for me
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I had problems with JB too. There were a few lags, especially with Google Now. Some apps would crash every time I tried to open them, and the launcher crashed every time I tried to change wall paper.
shyguyhighfive said:
Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
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Hmm I can say that AOSP JB is WAYYYY better than ICS. Soon I can port my ROM from the NS4G to the NS.
I have to agree with this. I've used stock JB when it was released, I was wowed by it's smoothness and cool animations. But everything felt a little slow and sluggish coming from ICS custom rom. After switching to Jellybro, JB feels both very fast and smooth. If you feel disappointed with JB, try using custom rom.
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I don't know if you guys with problem tried that yet, but it might be a good idea to do a factory reset. You will lose all your data if not backed up but I'm getting a feeling it could help. JB has only been smoother than ICS for most.
Looking to get an NS soon, but it may help, as others have mentioned to run a custom kernel and bump up the clock speeds a bit.
My N1 is almost perfectly smooth (very little lag and often times none) with JB installed and overclocked.
My GNEX is smooth as butter. (As to be expected). But I guess what I'm saying is, if the N1 can run JB smooth, then the NS should not have any problems.
And while I know AOSP is technically designed to run on multiple devices, only two were in mind when JB was released....the N7 and the GNEX. Everything else is an afterthought in which AOSP may not be fully optimized for the hardware that is pushing it. (Just my opinion).
And another opinion while I'm on my soap box. JB is what ICS should have been.
In my opinion 512 MB of RAM are a tight fit for Jelly Bean. I can just run 3-4 background apps without kill-restart-kill-restart-kill-restart and a constant lag.
I remember some kernels used to have compcache support. Maybe I could try to enable compcache/zram.
got556 said:
Looking to get an NS soon, but it may help, as others have mentioned to run a custom kernel and bump up the clock speeds a bit.
My N1 is almost perfectly smooth (very little lag and often times none) with JB installed and overclocked.
My GNEX is smooth as butter. (As to be expected). But I guess what I'm saying is, if the N1 can run JB smooth, then the NS should not have any problems.
And while I know AOSP is technically designed to run on multiple devices, only two were in mind when JB was released....the N7 and the GNEX. Everything else is an afterthought in which AOSP may not be fully optimized for the hardware that is pushing it. (Just my opinion).
And another opinion while I'm on my soap box. JB is what ICS should have been.
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I just got my GNex and the difference with JB on this phone is night and day. I didn't think it would be but I'm pleasantly surprised. But yeah. The RAM issue seems to be my biggest gripe with it on the NS. And for some reason, it just dominated my battery. I went through my first cycle on stock with Trinity and managed 3.5 hours of screen time over the course of almost 17 hours and still had a little under 50% remaining. My NS would've been dead long before that with the same usage pattern.....
I run stock JB with Matr1x. It works very very well.
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In my opinion 512 MB of RAM are a tight fit for Jelly Bean. I can just run 3-4 background apps without kill-restart-kill-restart-kill-restart and a constant lag.
I remember some kernels used to have compcache support. Maybe I could try to enable compcache/zram.
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Not to mention it only uses 368 mb of them. If it used the full 512, it would be pretty nice
I'm running Androxide 3.1 and used to run AdamG's custom ROM. Both ran great, no hiccups what so ever, Google now loads very fast, I guess it depends on your GPS and internet connection. My experience with JB is far better than the fastest ICS ROM out there, I believe given enough time, performance will become exceptional.
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I run stock JB with Matr1x. It works very very well.
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Not to mention it only uses 368 mb of them. If it used the full 512, it would be pretty nice
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That can be tweaked a bit with different kernels.
I am running XenonHD 9 + marmite 4.2 kernel. It's stable and smooth. Worth a try.
I have been testing out many of the roms here for my new galaxy s3 coming from my htc droid incredible.
When i picked and chose my rom on the incredible there were things about sense i liked things I did not like but over all the performance was varied wildly most of the time it was asop or akop that was higher preforming on my inc so my choice was easy i ran akop roms most of the time infact my inc is running akop jellybean right now it runs great with the obvious issues of it just is not as fast as my gs3 nor does it have the big screen my gs3 has.
My experience with the galaxy s 3 has been rather different the way it organized its file system and favors internal storage over the sd card has been somewhat annoying as well i have found the reverse of my experiences with my incredible to be true now touch wiz has better performance than asop but it has more bugs and issues than running ported roms on my htc. While asop works great on it and is mostly bug free it just doesn't have the speed and feel of touch wiz and i keep wanting to go back to a tw based rom.
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mirrin said:
I have been testing out many of the roms here for my new galaxy s3 coming from my htc droid incredible.
When i picked and chose my rom on the incredible there were things about sense i liked things I did not like but over all the performance was varied wildly most of the time it was asop or akop that was higher preforming on my inc so my choice was easy i ran akop roms most of the time infact my inc is running akop jellybean right now it runs great with the obvious issues of it just is not as fast as my gs3 nor does it have the big screen my gs3 has.
My experience with the galaxy s 3 has been rather different the way it organized its file system and favors internal storage over the sd card has been somewhat annoying as well i have found the reverse of my experiences with my incredible to be true now touch wiz has better performance than asop but it has more bugs and issues than running ported roms on my htc. While asop works great on it and is mostly bug free it just doesn't have the speed and feel of touch wiz and i keep wanting to go back to a tw based rom.
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What bugs and issues on TW are you referring to? And speed? I definitely disagree. TW is bloated as hell.. 700+mb compared to 150mb on aosp. Over clock with the ktweaker app up to 2.1ghz and change your governor/scheduler to sio/smartassv2. Perhaps that will change your mind.
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What bugs and issues on TW are you referring to? And speed? I definitely disagree. TW is bloated as hell.. 700+mb compared to 150mb on aosp. Over clock with the ktweaker app up to 2.1ghz and change your governor/scheduler to sio/smartassv2. Perhaps that will change your mind.
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overclocking to 2.1 is pointless and does nothing but drain the battery faster. touchwiz imo is very close to the performance of aosp. i like both at this point and probably favor aosp slightly once the ril is perfected.
I wont defend the fact tw is bloated as hell i about flipped my **** when i saw the roms were 500+mb and like i had said i am used to the incredible where the size of the rom maxed out was 250mb literally unless you took some of the 750mb htc allocated for user apps.
That said I dont know if the cpu/gpu drivers for touch wiz are different or what but every asop rom i have tried is slower than every tw rom i have tried is slower not that it makes a huge difference as i am running a asop atm i do miss a few features of the touch wiz base most are cosmetic.
Also I am not going to overclock to achieve the same result that asop roms should easily achieve. sio did help a little though. Also not like the test im doing to see how my phone is doing. antutu and quadrant I am seeing a difference of 1500-2000 points in quadrant and 1200 in antutu. And those are not really that great of a way to tell anything.
Until I got the G3 I always ran aosp on any device where it was possible.
The G3 is a different story however, I have tried every ROM available & at this point I am completely baffled why anybody would put up with a buggy aosp ROM (& every one has bugs) when the TW ROMs are just as fast/smooth etc & everything works perfectly.
No matter what ROM I try, I keep coming back to the setup in my sig for my DD.
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Until I got the G3 I always ran aosp on any device where it was possible.
The G3 is a different story however, I have tried every ROM available & at this point I am completely baffled why anybody would put up with a buggy aosp ROM (& every one has bugs) when the TW ROMs are just as fast/smooth etc & everything works perfectly.
No matter what ROM I try, I keep coming back to the setup in my sig for my DD.
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Yeah coming from a GNex I figured I would hate TW but I actually like it. I kind of got bored with AOSP honestly. It's nice having all these features without having to use ROMs that hacked the features in in a sloppy manner.
As much as i like jb, aosp is slower and a battery hog. Im on cm10 atm but have beans rom on backup.
personally i lasted 2 days on aosp, found it buggy and the phone is quick w TW so I don't see a need for more speed.
running beans build 14 right now and i really like the ridiculously large level of customization you can do yourself. this is where ROMs should head IMHO, the devs don't make the design/theme choices but leave it up to the user to be able to have many choices after the ROM is flashed.
so great to have choices.
I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
me too. i tried all the aosp roms and miui. and always find myself going back to stock touchwiz. which is funny. i remember before i bought the phone all i heard was "the only bad thing is it has touchwiz UI" and " touchwiz sucks" and i absolutely love it.
i prefer AOSP
TW but using Nova Launcher and Google Now instead of S Voice.
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I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
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Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
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Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
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I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
I don't mind touchwiz all that much. Couldn't stand sense or moto blur but tw the isn't all that bad. Throw on apex the launcher and I'm good to go.
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I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
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Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
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Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
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I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
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I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
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I'm currently on Beans stock deodex with Ziggy's latest kernel @1.72/384. Kinda craps mods and Moto's International VRTheme. All Gapps 4.1-4.2 inverted. Rock stable and running 6500 Quads. Everything works including call recording.
I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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Wolfe don't be sucking these kids in for the kill. I'm stock tweaked, deodexed, kerneled and themed. Rockin it . :laugh:
I can't imagine AOSP being much faster than TW with the necessary apps frozen. On my old phones AOSP was definitely the way to go, but the S3 is so powerful anyways, and TW isn't very heavy anymore.
And, in all honesty, the TW Camera app alone is worth it for me to stay on TW. All the non-TW camera apps pale in comparison, both in quality and options.
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Haha.. made me laugh
I honestly can't stand TW. I have it on my wife's phone because she likes the camera better than the AOSP. But it just seems like TW just tried to be too pretty and to me it didn't make me happy. Even though AOSP has its little bugs, I just like it better. There are no widgets that I'm OMG about really like I was with Sense, for instance their music player, calendar, clock, and Facebook for HTC sense app... of course I prefer sense 3.5 style widgets a little more than 4. So I just stick with MIUI because that was the AOSP that made me fall in love with AOSP. Used to have the Dinc and Dinc2 and it ran flawlessly on both. Just pure love.
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For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android.
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This.
I loaded up AOKP and tried that out for awhile. It was lightning fast on pretty much everything, but I just didn't feel like I was using my GS3 that I had fallen in love with. I'm on the stock JB OTA with Kindacrap Mods 2.6 flashed. The small tweaks in there make the phone for me. Everything's a little bit faster and once I found out that I could make the home button faster (my biggest complaint since owning the phone) simply by disabling the S-Voice polling, just more love to be had.
Being able to set separate lock screen and homescreen wallpapers that don't move (used to love the movement, but not so much anymore) is great. S-Beam is awesome. The premium suite will (hopefully) be a wonderful tweak. Samsung and TouchWiz have come a long way since my first Android phone: the Captivate on AT&T.
To me it is not about speed at this point but stability. Top end devices today do not need to go any faster then when you take it out of the box. I still scratch my head when I see people over clocking their S3. This thing already runs faster then some laptops that people own. Also, can't prove anything is faster when overclocking except running a benchmark. Otherwise they all feel the same!
I love the AOSP experience and options but it still has bugs that are important to me on the S3 so I am forced to use TW. Luckily TW is not that bad on the S3 and works well. If an AOSP Rom was bug free I surely would be running it. And don't believe the hype when people tell you AOSP has no bugs. It can run stable but has bugs that prevent me from using it as a daily.
Running Pure's TW Rom right now it works great. Already has part of multi-window cooked in with the bar on the left and all your apps showing. Hopefully next release will actually have the multi window. He also said that he has the ink effect on the lockscreen for the next rls as well. He is always pushing the bar with new features so I am pretty content right now with TW.
CM10.1 kangs have been nothing but stable for me since I got my S3 a few weeks ago. I like the whole interface and experience; hated TW. Call me lucky but I'm 100% satisfied.
I've gone back and forth between AOSP and TW-based ROMS. Besides stability, I do enjoy the extra features that are on the stock framework.
I'm just curious to see how developers will utilize the source code into their ROMS, now that it's out.
I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
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I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
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Same here. I ran AOSP on my OG Epic and while I liked it for what our offered, constant struggles with features broken/ not working made me steer clear of it on GS3 until ALL phone functions work as well as they do on TW.