A civil discussion of things asop and touch wiz on the gs3 a crack flasher's view. - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

I have been testing out many of the roms here for my new galaxy s3 coming from my htc droid incredible.
When i picked and chose my rom on the incredible there were things about sense i liked things I did not like but over all the performance was varied wildly most of the time it was asop or akop that was higher preforming on my inc so my choice was easy i ran akop roms most of the time infact my inc is running akop jellybean right now it runs great with the obvious issues of it just is not as fast as my gs3 nor does it have the big screen my gs3 has.
My experience with the galaxy s 3 has been rather different the way it organized its file system and favors internal storage over the sd card has been somewhat annoying as well i have found the reverse of my experiences with my incredible to be true now touch wiz has better performance than asop but it has more bugs and issues than running ported roms on my htc. While asop works great on it and is mostly bug free it just doesn't have the speed and feel of touch wiz and i keep wanting to go back to a tw based rom.
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mirrin said:
I have been testing out many of the roms here for my new galaxy s3 coming from my htc droid incredible.
When i picked and chose my rom on the incredible there were things about sense i liked things I did not like but over all the performance was varied wildly most of the time it was asop or akop that was higher preforming on my inc so my choice was easy i ran akop roms most of the time infact my inc is running akop jellybean right now it runs great with the obvious issues of it just is not as fast as my gs3 nor does it have the big screen my gs3 has.
My experience with the galaxy s 3 has been rather different the way it organized its file system and favors internal storage over the sd card has been somewhat annoying as well i have found the reverse of my experiences with my incredible to be true now touch wiz has better performance than asop but it has more bugs and issues than running ported roms on my htc. While asop works great on it and is mostly bug free it just doesn't have the speed and feel of touch wiz and i keep wanting to go back to a tw based rom.
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What bugs and issues on TW are you referring to? And speed? I definitely disagree. TW is bloated as hell.. 700+mb compared to 150mb on aosp. Over clock with the ktweaker app up to 2.1ghz and change your governor/scheduler to sio/smartassv2. Perhaps that will change your mind.
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What bugs and issues on TW are you referring to? And speed? I definitely disagree. TW is bloated as hell.. 700+mb compared to 150mb on aosp. Over clock with the ktweaker app up to 2.1ghz and change your governor/scheduler to sio/smartassv2. Perhaps that will change your mind.
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overclocking to 2.1 is pointless and does nothing but drain the battery faster. touchwiz imo is very close to the performance of aosp. i like both at this point and probably favor aosp slightly once the ril is perfected.

I wont defend the fact tw is bloated as hell i about flipped my **** when i saw the roms were 500+mb and like i had said i am used to the incredible where the size of the rom maxed out was 250mb literally unless you took some of the 750mb htc allocated for user apps.
That said I dont know if the cpu/gpu drivers for touch wiz are different or what but every asop rom i have tried is slower than every tw rom i have tried is slower not that it makes a huge difference as i am running a asop atm i do miss a few features of the touch wiz base most are cosmetic.
Also I am not going to overclock to achieve the same result that asop roms should easily achieve. sio did help a little though. Also not like the test im doing to see how my phone is doing. antutu and quadrant I am seeing a difference of 1500-2000 points in quadrant and 1200 in antutu. And those are not really that great of a way to tell anything.

Until I got the G3 I always ran aosp on any device where it was possible.
The G3 is a different story however, I have tried every ROM available & at this point I am completely baffled why anybody would put up with a buggy aosp ROM (& every one has bugs) when the TW ROMs are just as fast/smooth etc & everything works perfectly.
No matter what ROM I try, I keep coming back to the setup in my sig for my DD.

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Until I got the G3 I always ran aosp on any device where it was possible.
The G3 is a different story however, I have tried every ROM available & at this point I am completely baffled why anybody would put up with a buggy aosp ROM (& every one has bugs) when the TW ROMs are just as fast/smooth etc & everything works perfectly.
No matter what ROM I try, I keep coming back to the setup in my sig for my DD.
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Yeah coming from a GNex I figured I would hate TW but I actually like it. I kind of got bored with AOSP honestly. It's nice having all these features without having to use ROMs that hacked the features in in a sloppy manner.

As much as i like jb, aosp is slower and a battery hog. Im on cm10 atm but have beans rom on backup.

personally i lasted 2 days on aosp, found it buggy and the phone is quick w TW so I don't see a need for more speed.
running beans build 14 right now and i really like the ridiculously large level of customization you can do yourself. this is where ROMs should head IMHO, the devs don't make the design/theme choices but leave it up to the user to be able to have many choices after the ROM is flashed.
so great to have choices.

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best rom?

Hey guys im coming from the htc evo 4g. I just got the nexus rooted. What is the best rom or most popular rom in here?
Miui and cm7. I think are the most popular
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AFAIK there are no best rom, only most suitable to one needs. Having said that, Cyanogen, GPA17 and some other are quite popular...you have to try it to find one that suit your needs.
I did try several of them and ended up at stock rooted rom as I need a reliable handset for my day to day usage (phone, message, email, browsing, no games, hardly music or video)...battery is not a problem for me as I always have a second backup ever since I went to Android route.
stock rooted here. Found it to just be the most reliable and best battery. Plus once rooted there are tons of apps that can emulate the tweaks you get with roms. Love ZeamLauncher.
Hm I found stock rooted to be horrible on battery life. ATM I'm on MIUI 1.8.26 and TEUV88 rammstein kernel. Provides me with stability, better battery life, same performance, more customizability, and more functionality built in.
But it's all preference really. I suggest you try out a couple and figure out which you like most.
For fast,responsive, and good battery life, you might want to look into Oxygen 2.2.2. This is what I use and I can confirm that everything needed for a daily phone WORKS.
miui. personal favorite
My personal favorites are MIUI and Oxygen
You can download latest MIUI at www.miui.us and latest Oxygen at http://forum.oxygen.im/viewforum.php?id=7
I've had great experiences with both. Also, the latest Matr1x kernel has been working great on both. Oxygen has been very very stable for me
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Kool man ill give oxygen a try thanks for the info
Hey, I would like to give you my personal experience.
Ive used oxygen, and it really is a beast when it comes to speed and battery.
However, I would recommend brainmasters MIUI. It looks awesome, the speed is awesome and battery usage is ok, not the best out there but ok.
If you want your phone to look very slick and sexy, go for MIUI
MIUI
Never was a fan prior though, was always avid cm7 user and other standard android base ROMS mostly CM7
Gave the new MIUI another chance and never looked back.
I was presently pleased, not only doesn't it look better its more stable and battery performance is allot better than CM7. It also adds allot of features and functionality that other standard aosp NS ROMS don't offer such as better camera, music, faster/smoother browser ...ect
Been using miui for a couple months now and couldn't be more happy don't see myself switching back anytime soon.... probably when icecream is released though
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MIUI
Never was a fan prior though, was always avid cm7 user and other standard android base ROMS mostly CM7
Gave the new MIUI another chance and never looked back.
I was presently pleased, not only doesn't it look better its more stable and battery performance is allot better than CM7. It also adds allot of features and functionality that other standard aosp NS ROMS don't offer such as better camera, music, faster/smoother browser ...ect
Been using miui for a couple months now and couldn't be more happy don't see myself switching back anytime soon.... probably when icecream is released though
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100% agreed with everything including the Ice Cream part.
demo23019 said:
MIUI
Never was a fan prior though, was always avid cm7 user and other standard android base ROMS mostly CM7
Gave the new MIUI another chance and never looked back.
I was presently pleased, not only doesn't it look better its more stable and battery performance is allot better than CM7. It also adds allot of features and functionality that other standard aosp NS ROMS don't offer such as better camera, music, faster/smoother browser ...ect
Been using miui for a couple months now and couldn't be more happy don't see myself switching back anytime soon.... probably when icecream is released though
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I prefer the stock Android Roms. I figure that Google has put a lot of painstaking care into getting the Linux kernel built just right. I tried CyanogenMod, but it seemed to be awfully unstable.
favorite, miui .. very nice and fast ..and highly customizable
SuperOSR - darn fast rom
brainmaster's miui or oxygen 2.2.2
I used zulugen and BM's MIUI.
MIUI is a complete New experience , it has loads of themes and lockscreens etc.
but i dont like the iphone style , so using ADW launcher on it.
I liked MIUI but Netflix video was stutter city, even on Wifi. Switched back to stock and it plays smoothly. Also works fine on Oxygen.
So I wanted to like MIUI (latest version) but there seems to be something going on with a background process that's choking video and causing it not to be smooth...
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stock rooted here. Found it to just be the most reliable and best battery. Plus once rooted there are tons of apps that can emulate the tweaks you get with roms. Love ZeamLauncher.
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This. It's a Nexus, enjoy the stocky goodness of it. Otherwise why bother with a Nexus?
Stock Nexus > Custom ROMs > Manufacturer crippled and bloated ROMs

Switching to a JB based rom (paranoid android) or keeping stock?

Hey all,
I get my phone tomorrow, and coming from an Incredible 2 that was running paranoid android ROM i am anxious to see what this can do with the same sort of software, bigger screen.
I really like stock roms, and although all the software tricks the s3 does sounds good, I dont think I would use many of them.
So question is, are all the JB roms pretty much stable?
The Incredible 2 was missing any camera features (just wouldnt work) and google now was non existant...
But yeah, which way would you go?
I've tried Synergy ROM and also Paranoid Android. Personally I am loving PA right now. In the most recent stable build 1.9.5 nearly everything was working. There are some minor (to me) things like not being able to send MMS, but the fluidity of JellyBean is so worth it and Google Now works flawlessly. With the screen being as big as it is, the on screen keys don't seem to take up too much room for me, and I've really gotten used to them. It also disables the backlight for the physical keys so they disappear in the phone. Again...with the screen size, hybrid mode is really nice. The dual-pane display make going through setting a lot easier and really it just looks fantastic. One huge part for me was the JB messaging app. The stock TW one just looked so ugly, it made me hate texting...
Anyway, some of the motion features were nice, the ones I used the most were the swipe to capture screenshot and also direct call from messaging (putting the phone up to your ear whilst in a text conversation) but the rest were pretty worthless IMO.
If you don't feel like dealing with a not so functioning camera and a few other bugs, I would go with Synergy. Noticably faster than stock, I even got faster data speeds, too. Just anything but stock haha.
Any more questions let me know.
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Hey all,
I get my phone tomorrow, and coming from an Incredible 2 that was running paranoid android ROM i am anxious to see what this can do with the same sort of software, bigger screen.
I really like stock roms, and although all the software tricks the s3 does sounds good, I dont think I would use many of them.
So question is, are all the JB roms pretty much stable?
The Incredible 2 was missing any camera features (just wouldnt work) and google now was non existant...
But yeah, which way would you go?
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Personally, it never made much sense to me to run a ROM as your DD that disables basic functions like MMS.
I have tried all the available ROMs just to satisfy my curiosity at that point, but I always end up back with the root66 as it is every bit as fast and fluid as any other ROM (claims that another ROM are noticeably faster than a debloated stock setup are total BS) and every function works perfectly. I do run synergy at times also and it's awesome as well.
I have a setup running NOVA Launcher that is awesome. Apex and Nova where always a bit laggy in previous phones but the response is virtually instant and it's smooth and fluid in the G3 so anybodies claims that another ROM can make this setup noticeably faster are just a placebo IMHO.
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Personally, it never made much sense to me to run a ROM as your DD that disables basic functions like MMS.
I have tried all the available ROMs just to satisfy my curiosity at that point, but I always end up back with the root66 as it is every bit as fast and fluid as any other ROM (claims that another ROM are noticeably faster than a debloated stock setup are total BS) and every function works perfectly. I do run synergy at times also and it's awesome as well.
I have a setup running NOVA Launcher that is awesome. Apex and Nova where always a bit laggy in previous phones but the response is virtually instant and it's smooth and fluid in the G3 so anybodies claims that another ROM can make this setup noticeably faster are just a placebo IMHO.
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Agreed. I think the only reason I don't run stock (or any debloated form of stock is just because I'm flash happy and really like active development of Team Synergy)
I'm running Synergy 1.5 right now - no complaints here. Runs smoothly and I'm also using Nova and not seeing any lag. Recently flashed the leankernel and cpu editor script. Will see if that makes any difference in battery life. Even if it doesn't, I won't be upset because let's face it...I'm a heavy user of the device. I've purchased a couple extra batteries (with a charging cradle) that I can just pop in and out when needed. Best solution for me!

Which TW Rom?

I haven't rooted my phone yet, but i've been following the cm10 forums and it seems its still pretty buggy right now. I haven't seen much about the tw roms like synergy or beans. Which would you guys prefer and recommend for the most stable and best performance tw rom.
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I haven't rooted my phone yet, but i've been following the cm10 forums and it seems its still pretty buggy right now. I haven't seen much about the tw roms like synergy or beans. Which would you guys prefer and recommend for the most stable and best performance tw rom.
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also interested. i havent flashed roms in a while but i like soem of the touchwiz features.
CM10 wont have motion control support, right?
No, CM10 does not have Motion Control support right now, though the Alpha build for CM10 works well, I wasn't pleased with the battery life. So, I'm about to ty CleanROM. Synergy wasn't for me, but it is a solid ROM. For 4.1 and Motion support, best bet is to wait for Samsung to release 4.1 for the GSIII, eventually somebody will root it, and that should include motion support.
I prefer Synergy, its always been great for me, and i get amazing battery life with it. I haven't tried beans so i can't comment on his, but it really boils down to personal preference. Some will say synergy and some will say beans.
Does synergy have any big bugs that someone would not flash because of it? And how is the data reception, i haven't been getting that good of reception even with stock.
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Does synergy have any big bugs that someone would not flash because of it? And how is the data reception, i haven't been getting that good of reception even with stock.
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The latest nightly appears to have everything worked out and data reception for me has been great.
Personally, I use SynergyROM (currently nightly R50).
I have yet to encounter any significant bugs. The Samsung Motion controls seem a bit off, but I'm not sure if that's how stock is or if it's just the ROM.
As for your questions about reception, SynergyROM has increased WiFi and Data transmit power. It supposedly means faster speeds, which I assume is achieved through a stronger connection?
Running Scott's CleanRom and it runs great. I see new version 2.0 is out now.
Cleanrom IS the only ROM I haven't tried as it wasn't out yet, but of all the others I kept returning to root66 as everything Single thing works perfectly, it is the fastest set-up I have ever used on ANY phone and battery life is as good as any other ROM (regardless of some of the ludicrous claims posters make for battery life)
Bean 8 with imosyeons LeanKernel 2.2 > Root66>Synergy 1.7...have not tried clean rom.
I've seen no bugs so far in the latest Synergy nightly (r50). Synergy has been my daily driver for a while now and is very stable with excellent support from the developer. Highly recommend.
CleanROM 2.0 just came out today and from the description sounds great. However, several of the bloatware apps appeared after installation (VZ Navigator, Color, etc) even though I de-selected them in the installer. I'm trying to get my post count to 10 so I can let the dev know in his own thread.
Seems people are saying different ones are the best. Still not sure so i'll probably look more into each one.
They didnt appear in mines
VERIZON GALAXY S 3 (CM10)
The NoSympathy ROM is pretty dang awesome. Pretty much just root, deodexed, and zip-aligned. I ran it with lean kernel and it was very happy with performance. I honestly think it is a great combination of performance and stock TW.
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The NoSympathy ROM is pretty dang awesome. Pretty much just root, deodexed, and zip-aligned. I ran it with lean kernel and it was very happy with performance. I honestly think it is a great combination of performance and stock TW.
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Is the "VRALF2 vs G1" referring to the kernel, the ROM, or the radio/modem. I get so confused with all the conflicting terminology on these forums.
bby144 said:
Seems people are saying different ones are the best. Still not sure so i'll probably look more into each one.
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different roms for different needs.
research them and see which is best for yours!
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Is the "VRALF2 vs G1" referring to the kernel, the ROM, or the radio/modem. I get so confused with all the conflicting terminology on these forums.
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All of the above, in each context. F2 and G1 are two different builds (official ones from Samsung), which each have their own kernel, system base, and radios. You wouldn't mix and match kernels with system bases, but radios are interchangeable. I recommend the latest G1 radio, for the record.
Most TW ROMs get built off the latest base (and get ported over to new bases when they are released), because they tend to add bug fixes. You should know which build your ROM is based off, because in some cases third-party kernels can be compatible with one base and not another. Read carefully.

Which Jellybean Rom to use?

There seems to be quite a few jelly bean roms right now, and without an official leak, I am sure each one has its ups and downs at this point.
I am coming from synergyrom, and want to give JB a try. Since theres is still "beta" I am not sure I wanna try that right away.
Which is the most stable at this point??
Definitely liquid smooth...I've tried others and always revert back to touch wiz stock based roms, and i despise touch wiz...liquid smooth jb is the best I've flashed
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liquid smooth is awesome for aosp JB, but touchwiz there's not much thats super stable imo
thanks for the input so far!
Please note if there are known issues, that might help make decisions too.
Thanks all!!
I like codename. Super smooth, frickin' fast and barely believable battery life! Some apps don't stream audio over bluetooth and you have to enable a couple of Developer options to address screen flickering, but those are truthfully very minor annoyances you'll be happy to overlook when you get a taste of that ROM.
Seriously, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900479
I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I can respect that. Haven't tried liquid as the CNA ROM got posted around the time I got this phone. I've heard the 160 character error msg is a bit of a red herring, that the msgs actually do get sent but just say they didn't. Was that your experience or did they actually not get sent?
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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Well said.
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One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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There is a fix for this now but just has not made it's way into all AOSP roms yet. There are in most of the newer AOKP builds right now.
The biggest issue still is the low volume when recording video's. This is an issue in all AOSP roms and has not been fixed yet. I know I also read a lot about speakerphone and in call volume problems but not sure to much about the actual issue.
This is why I am still sticking to an ICS TW Rom. I like knowing everything on my device just works.
The only major thing that keeps from moving to CM10, or Liquid Smooth is the lack of USB Audio. I leave my phone on my dock at work and stream Pandora through the dock's usb audio. I've been using SynergyROM for awhile now, and will probably stick with it until the USB Audio issue is fixed.
AOKP's new build has been great for me. No real issues to report yet...been on it since 3 came out a week or so ago?
i haven't been too impressed jb at all tbh.
Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
What are the general downsides with using these JB roms weither it be TouchWiz or AOSP. I'm going to take the jump soon but whats fixed or unfixable? I hear some people say screen flicker and no 3G etc.
Neverendingxsin said:
Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
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thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
I would hold out a few more weeks for a touchwiz based rom - I tried Incubus' and got a number of random reboots. Cleanrom 2.5 has been working great!
Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
AndyMan386 said:
thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
ECrispy said:
Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
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Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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link to CM10 data fix?

[Q] Are you satisfied with your Android 4.2 experience?

Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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Somewhat I do agree BUT we can bring all that smoothness back pretty much easily
DJBhardwaj said:
Somewhat I do agree BUT we can bring all that smoothness back pretty much easily
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Can you site an example on how we can do that? I've tried all of the currently available 4.2 ROMs and they just feel clunky compared to 4.1.2. Even the recent apps list appear faster and with less stutter in 4.1.2.
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Once we are done with solving all the bugs, we can work on patches to remove lags.
Probably because 4.2 is just a port.
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Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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4.2 is a port and way more than what Nexus S was designed to handle. Still, I found it really snappy and only sipping battery compared to 4.1 and even CM10. Only multitasking chokes it, but that can't be helped.
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4.2 is a port and way more than what Nexus S was designed to handle. Still, I found it really snappy and only sipping battery compared to 4.1 and even CM10. Only multitasking chokes it, but that can't be helped.
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You are really unaware of what NS can handle.
My 2 years old LG Optimus One P500; an MDPI ARMv6 arch device which comes with froyo and can only be updated to GB runs on smooth JB.
NS is way far more capable than that and in the coming future we will prove that too. :victory:
apatal said:
Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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I was happy with JellyShot 0.8 for couple days then with Vanilla 4.1.2 which I used since release, used the same kernel. I tried couple 4.2 for the NS, but everyone felt clunky until JellyShot, I also loved the quick toggles and MMS features.
But I feel you, since 4.1.1 Google images behaved very well and smoother then AOSP compiled stuff.
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Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now.
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Same here. I tried greenblue's AOSP 4.2.1 and like the "new features", but I always return back to the stock 4.1.2 ROM. It feels more robust somehow, even with the same kernel.
I´m running on Rasbeanjelly 4.2.1 since it comes out and i´m very satisified with it. I expected nothing more of the Nexus S but i love to hear that there will possibly be improvements in future.
For the last couple of days I've been flashing my device with various roms. 4.2.1. mostly. Everytime I flashed a new rom which was supposed to be smooth fast and super nice it turned out it was slow, sluggish, choppy and not working as a smartphone should. Crt animation is ****ty among every 4.2. Rom i tried. It's delayed, slow and not in the right pace. Lockscreen does not work properly. Scrolling through the lockscreen is laggy. Quick settings are sometimes laggy. I just hate to say it but I think 4.2.1. is really not meant for the nexus s. I just returned to vanilla rom with minimum modifications (flohimself rom) and I love what I see. Everything is fast, fluent and working properly
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Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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apatal said:
Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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I think we can :victory:
I thought that everything is possible. But the more i use my phone the more I think that the stock firmware is simply the best for it. The more new features the faster your phone will become sluggish and unbearably slow. I've been on cm10 for a while and I thought it was fast. I was wrong. I'm now typing from a vanilla rom and that's the way it should be. I just wonder how long will my phone be so fast and snappy. Maybe after couple of days it will become as slow as the other roms leaving me with the opininion that android is simply crap? what do you think?
thanks to all dev for 4.2.1 rom !!!
You all should use a HTC Hero for a week and you'd realize that your phone runs great. If your phone runs so poorly on 4.0+ it's probably you because I see enough people say their phone flies. 4.2 is a bit clunky, but it's also a port. A port takes time to get the kinks out. I thought 4.2 actually ran fine. But I also had a click and wait hero and Windows Mobile phones before this. The lock screen is the main fail on it for a variety of reasons. Some apps are definitely not optimized for 4.2 as well. Beyond that it seems fine. It will get better. I've already had to suffer through this on so many phones, just be patient.
~Nexus S 4G~AOKP JB~Matrix Kernel~
apatal said:
Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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Unfortunately using actual AOSP ROMs will always be better, so everything based on 4.2 will always be less than 4.1.2. I am using the great 4.2.1 ROMs here and enjoying them but they are less than using actual AOSP ROMs.
A reality we have to accept since our beloved NS has been dropped by Google...
dpeeps74 said:
You all should use a HTC Hero for a week and you'd realize that your phone runs great. If your phone runs so poorly on 4.0+ it's probably you because I see enough people say their phone flies. 4.2 is a bit clunky, but it's also a port. A port takes time to get the kinks out. I thought 4.2 actually ran fine. But I also had a click and wait hero and Windows Mobile phones before this. The lock screen is the main fail on it for a variety of reasons. Some apps are definitely not optimized for 4.2 as well. Beyond that it seems fine. It will get better. I've already had to suffer through this on so many phones, just be patient.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I think my phone runs great, especially with the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm running right now. This is also the reason why I believe my complaints with 4.2 ROMs are not because of "me", as you say. Because if I do cause the poor performance on my phone, I would experience the same issues regardless of what ROM I am using, which, as I mentioned before, is not the case. < via xda app>
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I thought that everything is possible. But the more i use my phone the more I think that the stock firmware is simply the best for it. The more new features the faster your phone will become sluggish and unbearably slow. I've been on cm10 for a while and I thought it was fast. I was wrong. I'm now typing from a vanilla rom and that's the way it should be. I just wonder how long will my phone be so fast and snappy. Maybe after couple of days it will become as slow as the other roms leaving me with the opininion that android is simply crap? what do you think?
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I think that's why we're on a nexus device, to get the pure Google experience. The only thing the nexus s needs that's not stock it's backlight notifications, and the gnex solved it with the notification led. Let's just admit that this is an old phone, and the nexus 4 is probably where we should head towards. Probably won't find anything for such a great deal for a while. It'll last us as few years for sure.
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apatal said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I think my phone runs great, especially with the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm running right now. This is also the reason why I believe my complaints with 4.2 ROMs are not because of "me", as you say. Because if I do cause the poor performance on my phone, I would experience the same issues regardless of what ROM I am using, which, as I mentioned before, is not the case. < via xda app>
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It wasn't intended as a dig. There are several people though that report 4.2 running fine. This would tend to indicate that there would be something specific to what a user does that would cause the phone to run in a way that made it unbearable. Typically that will be related to some specific application(s) causing an issue due to not being updated. Most problems I saw with 4.2 were very similar to what I saw when we got ics before many apps ever updated and some never did and I'd imagine there are still people using apps that haven't been updated since gb. Definitely 4.2 is nowhere near perfect on our phones though and is running very much like a port and they clearly lagged some stuff up.
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