There seems to be quite a few jelly bean roms right now, and without an official leak, I am sure each one has its ups and downs at this point.
I am coming from synergyrom, and want to give JB a try. Since theres is still "beta" I am not sure I wanna try that right away.
Which is the most stable at this point??
Definitely liquid smooth...I've tried others and always revert back to touch wiz stock based roms, and i despise touch wiz...liquid smooth jb is the best I've flashed
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liquid smooth is awesome for aosp JB, but touchwiz there's not much thats super stable imo
thanks for the input so far!
Please note if there are known issues, that might help make decisions too.
Thanks all!!
I like codename. Super smooth, frickin' fast and barely believable battery life! Some apps don't stream audio over bluetooth and you have to enable a couple of Developer options to address screen flickering, but those are truthfully very minor annoyances you'll be happy to overlook when you get a taste of that ROM.
Seriously, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900479
I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I can respect that. Haven't tried liquid as the CNA ROM got posted around the time I got this phone. I've heard the 160 character error msg is a bit of a red herring, that the msgs actually do get sent but just say they didn't. Was that your experience or did they actually not get sent?
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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Well said.
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One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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There is a fix for this now but just has not made it's way into all AOSP roms yet. There are in most of the newer AOKP builds right now.
The biggest issue still is the low volume when recording video's. This is an issue in all AOSP roms and has not been fixed yet. I know I also read a lot about speakerphone and in call volume problems but not sure to much about the actual issue.
This is why I am still sticking to an ICS TW Rom. I like knowing everything on my device just works.
The only major thing that keeps from moving to CM10, or Liquid Smooth is the lack of USB Audio. I leave my phone on my dock at work and stream Pandora through the dock's usb audio. I've been using SynergyROM for awhile now, and will probably stick with it until the USB Audio issue is fixed.
AOKP's new build has been great for me. No real issues to report yet...been on it since 3 came out a week or so ago?
i haven't been too impressed jb at all tbh.
Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
What are the general downsides with using these JB roms weither it be TouchWiz or AOSP. I'm going to take the jump soon but whats fixed or unfixable? I hear some people say screen flicker and no 3G etc.
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Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
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thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
I would hold out a few more weeks for a touchwiz based rom - I tried Incubus' and got a number of random reboots. Cleanrom 2.5 has been working great!
Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
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thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
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Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
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Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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link to CM10 data fix?
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I haven't rooted my phone yet, but i've been following the cm10 forums and it seems its still pretty buggy right now. I haven't seen much about the tw roms like synergy or beans. Which would you guys prefer and recommend for the most stable and best performance tw rom.
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I haven't rooted my phone yet, but i've been following the cm10 forums and it seems its still pretty buggy right now. I haven't seen much about the tw roms like synergy or beans. Which would you guys prefer and recommend for the most stable and best performance tw rom.
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also interested. i havent flashed roms in a while but i like soem of the touchwiz features.
CM10 wont have motion control support, right?
No, CM10 does not have Motion Control support right now, though the Alpha build for CM10 works well, I wasn't pleased with the battery life. So, I'm about to ty CleanROM. Synergy wasn't for me, but it is a solid ROM. For 4.1 and Motion support, best bet is to wait for Samsung to release 4.1 for the GSIII, eventually somebody will root it, and that should include motion support.
I prefer Synergy, its always been great for me, and i get amazing battery life with it. I haven't tried beans so i can't comment on his, but it really boils down to personal preference. Some will say synergy and some will say beans.
Does synergy have any big bugs that someone would not flash because of it? And how is the data reception, i haven't been getting that good of reception even with stock.
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Does synergy have any big bugs that someone would not flash because of it? And how is the data reception, i haven't been getting that good of reception even with stock.
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The latest nightly appears to have everything worked out and data reception for me has been great.
Personally, I use SynergyROM (currently nightly R50).
I have yet to encounter any significant bugs. The Samsung Motion controls seem a bit off, but I'm not sure if that's how stock is or if it's just the ROM.
As for your questions about reception, SynergyROM has increased WiFi and Data transmit power. It supposedly means faster speeds, which I assume is achieved through a stronger connection?
Running Scott's CleanRom and it runs great. I see new version 2.0 is out now.
Cleanrom IS the only ROM I haven't tried as it wasn't out yet, but of all the others I kept returning to root66 as everything Single thing works perfectly, it is the fastest set-up I have ever used on ANY phone and battery life is as good as any other ROM (regardless of some of the ludicrous claims posters make for battery life)
Bean 8 with imosyeons LeanKernel 2.2 > Root66>Synergy 1.7...have not tried clean rom.
I've seen no bugs so far in the latest Synergy nightly (r50). Synergy has been my daily driver for a while now and is very stable with excellent support from the developer. Highly recommend.
CleanROM 2.0 just came out today and from the description sounds great. However, several of the bloatware apps appeared after installation (VZ Navigator, Color, etc) even though I de-selected them in the installer. I'm trying to get my post count to 10 so I can let the dev know in his own thread.
Seems people are saying different ones are the best. Still not sure so i'll probably look more into each one.
They didnt appear in mines
VERIZON GALAXY S 3 (CM10)
The NoSympathy ROM is pretty dang awesome. Pretty much just root, deodexed, and zip-aligned. I ran it with lean kernel and it was very happy with performance. I honestly think it is a great combination of performance and stock TW.
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The NoSympathy ROM is pretty dang awesome. Pretty much just root, deodexed, and zip-aligned. I ran it with lean kernel and it was very happy with performance. I honestly think it is a great combination of performance and stock TW.
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Is the "VRALF2 vs G1" referring to the kernel, the ROM, or the radio/modem. I get so confused with all the conflicting terminology on these forums.
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different roms for different needs.
research them and see which is best for yours!
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Is the "VRALF2 vs G1" referring to the kernel, the ROM, or the radio/modem. I get so confused with all the conflicting terminology on these forums.
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All of the above, in each context. F2 and G1 are two different builds (official ones from Samsung), which each have their own kernel, system base, and radios. You wouldn't mix and match kernels with system bases, but radios are interchangeable. I recommend the latest G1 radio, for the record.
Most TW ROMs get built off the latest base (and get ported over to new bases when they are released), because they tend to add bug fixes. You should know which build your ROM is based off, because in some cases third-party kernels can be compatible with one base and not another. Read carefully.
Hello. I have the Samsung Galaxy S3 and want to switch back to the One X due to its awesome screen. I initially didn't like the One X due to the overbearing Sense (especially the multitasking, I hated that side scrolling thing). Are there stable builds od Jellybean available? If you tried them, how is your experience with it?
I'm using CM10 on my One X and love it. So much faster and more responsive than sense.
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After I rooted I went to CleanROM 4.5 and I loved it. I enjoy sense, I just was much nicer on CleanROM thats for sure. But this is my first ever android phone, so i wanted to experience stock android. That's when I flashed CM10. I Gotta say, man is it ever smooth! This phone runs amazingly with Jelly Bean, its so fast so smooth and just so much better than sense.
I have owned every iphone up until now, and man, it was the right choice to change!
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I only played around with CM10 for a short time yesterday, so others can certainly speak on the matter better than I. But seeing as you haven't received a great many responses so far, here is my 2 cents:
Short answer is that JB is very young, and things are changing quickly and often.
The general UI is very smooth, and works very well. But there are still various bugs being worked out on certain aspects, which may or may not be a deal breakers for you (for now), depending on how you use your phone. On the 8-26 nightly, streaming audio was broken (Pandora didn't work at all) and even playing non-streaming music (MP3's on the SD) mostly did not work. It looks like this may have been fixed on the 8-28 nightly. But things are changing literally day by day, and not always for the better due to upstream changes. Seems that in call volume has gone back and forth from fixed to broken, for instance.
Video camera is mostly fixed on nightlies that are labelled EXPERIMENTAL in the file name, broken in the ones that do not. I say "mostly" because the output was good most the time, but 1 time out of maybe the 10 tries I made, the output was still garbled. Again, this is something that may get ironed out very soon. The dev mentioned they just got a open source version of the phone's camera software, and he sounded very optimistic this would help remedy the camera bugs.
Everyone's requirements for what makes a daily driver is different. But for me, there are enough issues to wait longer for the bugs to be worked out. No knock on the devs at all. Their hard work is totally appreciated. What has been accomplished is awesome (and in such a short time). But CM10 is still being billed as in an "early state". Some early adopters will have to tolerate some bugs to have the cutting edge, that's just how it always is. For those that need a more stable product, we'll have to wait a bit.
Yeah building on what he said, CM10 is stable enough for a daily driver (and has been for awhile) as long as you don't need your video camera. Things break here and there but as long as you pay attention to the thread then you will know what to expect from what builds. And btw the streaming audio was fixed in 8-28, used it this morning.
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Hey guys, just found this thread.
I am very interested in the one x but do not want anything to do with sense! Assuming I get a one x with 1.85 firmware or earlier, do you think there is enough development going on to get a extremely stable cm10 (or cm9) build for this phone?
It feels a little big to me and the power button could be in a better place, but I like everything else about the phone.
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Yeah building on what he said, CM10 is stable enough for a daily driver (and has been for awhile) as long as you don't need your video camera. Things break here and there but as long as you pay attention to the thread then you will know what to expect from what builds. And btw the streaming audio was fixed in 8-28, used it this morning.
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Besides the video camera, LTE also seems to have problems? Browsing through the thread I see people have to set a bunch of settings after every reboot for LTE to work. That can be a big issue for me.
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Besides the video camera, LTE also seems to have problems? Browsing through the thread I see people have to set a bunch of settings after every reboot for LTE to work. That can be a big issue for me.
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Its only two settings, which are easy to access
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How is jellybean?? As rick Ross would say. Like making love to the woman of your dreams, in a room full of money out London and she screams.
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I love Jellybean, but more importantly I don't think I'll ever go back to a non-AOSP based ROM. The devs who work on Sense ROMs do an amazing job removing bloatware and speeding up what HTC gave us, but you can't match the speed of software that was designed from the ground up to be sleek and smooth. Plus I just enjoy the customizability of AOKP and CM10.
My personal preference is CM10, mainly because of battery life and the small tweaks that are unique to CM10 (for now). As others have stated there are some stability issues with Jellybean, but there are bugs in all software and in time they will be worked out. Make a full backup in TWRP and just try flashing CyanogenMod for a day to see if you like it. Titanium Backup Pro offers complete backups of all app data and even SMS, so I am constantly flashing new ROMs without much risk of permanent data loss.
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Besides the video camera, LTE also seems to have problems? Browsing through the thread I see people have to set a bunch of settings after every reboot for LTE to work. That can be a big issue for me.
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I don't know. LTE works for me. Noticed it when I went to work today. Btw LTE just got switched on in Wilmington, DE. I never had to change any settings, it just worked.
Edit: I remember I was on CleanROM (forget which version, but it was quite awhile ago, I think it was based on 1.85), then moved to AOKP M6, then to CM10.
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Yep, lte has always worked for me as well (cm10 and aokp). I did come from cleanrom though (started with version 1). I switched to aokp jellybean and it's been more stable and honestly, smoother than cm was. That was back on the 8/16 version so things may have changed. Since I can't comment on the newer releases of cm, I will say that the aokp jellybean release is extremely smooth overall. As with cm, camera and video still have issues. My personal opinion though, is that neither aokp or cm are as stable, smooth, complete as cleanrom de was. They are getting close though and definitely close enough that I have no desire or need to go back (though clean de was/is a heck of a rom).
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CM10 is surprisingly polished.
Most things thats is important will work and MiLocker works really well on it too.
Most Awesome feature is the ability to remap the buttons.
Getting better every day and tonight's build should have 100% working cameras in the nightly builds. No more experimental builds. I highly suggest cm10, haven't tried miui or aokp jb releases yet, been in cm10 for close to two weeks and can tell you it's really dd material now. Most kinks are gone, and battery life is usable even with wake locks. And with a new build everyday, only getting better constantly.
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Cm10 is amazing....video camera is 100% as of the latest 8/31 nightly
Lte is an issue if u did not come from a sense 4.0.3 ROM such as stock 1.85 senseless 1.1 or clean ROM 4.0.
I never have issues with lte I never go into settings to change anything.
The one gripe is battery life is not as good as it was on sense first day on cm10 is worse it gets better every charge but its maybe 80-90% wat it was on sense. I still go the whole day 15+ hours and still have 40% batt I just charge every night now no big deal its worth it tho whole experience is so much better
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Yeah building on what he said, CM10 is stable enough for a daily driver (and has been for awhile) as long as you don't need your video camera. Things break here and there but as long as you pay attention to the thread then you will know what to expect from what builds. And btw the streaming audio was fixed in 8-28, used it this morning.
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you should also know that there is a low volume issue on calls. The person at the other end will hear you as if you were wispering if you talk normally.
I hate screaming at my phone. Developer has tried increasing the mic volume but than it brings in-call echo.
Hopefully they can get it squared away but be ready to talk loud or repeat yourself during phone calls. weird part is that SIP calls (like with Skype) works fine.
I am still running the ROM and loving it.
Than ks
Hey all...
My original Infuse had to be sent back to the Warranty dep because of the micro usb issues a lot of people had...it had Zeus v6 which I did love however I had to figure out how to hard brick it because I couldn't go back to stock....
So here I am with my new (Most likely refurbished) Infuse and it actually came pre-loaded with Gingerbread (Holy crap right?) and it seems to run well...in fact better than Zeus did....my battery life is better although it still sucks....it hasn't crashed yet so so far no known issues....
However, I miss the extra features Rooting/Flashing can do whether they're just for fun or not....but I'm worried I'm going to have the same USB issue right and never get back to stock again if something dire goes wrong....I almost felt like flashing caused the problem because it happened the same week....
So here's my question...
A lot of these new ICS/JB Roms are obviously ports of one another which is cool but everywhere I look they all seem to have the same issues with BT not working...wifi issues...signal issues and videocamera issues....I realize people have fixes with these with different kernels etc....but is there a more stable ROM than others? I used to have CM7 before Zeus and it was really slick and stable however I hated that it was missing some TouchWiz features that love and Zeus kept them....But when it comes to ICS I do like that "Vanilla" look because it doesn't really seem stock Samsung phones have it because of Touchwiz...
So what's the most stable ROM most of you know works best...
What's the flashiest ROM (all the bells and whistles)
And do any of them incorporate some TouchWiz features like swiping right or left on contacts for calling or messaging..(I don't know why I just love that feature)
So far from the looks like the updated Unofficial CM10 is the way to go....anyone want to steer me clear from this?
The only issue at the moment with ics/jb is 720p recording. Everything else is running completely fine.
Most of the jb roms are really smooth and stable. Try a few of them out and stick with the one you prefer.
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Most of the jb roms are really smooth and stable. Try a few of them out and stick with the one you prefer.
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Great post from andros here. No one can really make up your mind on what ROM to go with as some may have features you don't want, like, or need and/or is missing features you want/need. The most anybody can really do is throw a few recommendations out there (which i will do) but the rest is up to you.
Some ROMs i would personally recommend would first of all be andros's LiquidSmooth (click picture in my sig).
Some others from the JellyBean line-up would be RemICS-JB, SlimBean, and the unofficial CM10.
The only ICS ROM i have used is RemICS (not the same as RemICS-JB) so can't give any recommendations there (same goes for GB ROMs).
Those are the ROMs i have personally tried and are in my opinion the best 4.x ROMs for the infuse. But like i said earlier, it's your decision which one to go with. Research each ROM's features list, bug list, and update intervals to see which one is best for you.
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You listed bt first so I assuming that is important. I'm using liquid smooth and it works flawlessly with bt. And battery life is great
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I checked out that video of Liquid Smooth and it looks very promising.....on the video he said that everything on the camera works....is the 720p issue have to do with crappy resolution or the video and audio not matching up? Because the video/audio is what I had issues with on CM7....
The guy on the video is using an sg3. The video is mostly for people to see how it looks, its features and functionality.
Our only issue with our Infuse is choppy 720p recording.
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If you are going to upgrade past GB I recommend skipping ICS. To my knowledge development on ICS has stopped for the infuse. I could be wrong but last I checked most of the ICS ROMs are still less functional than the jellybean ROMs.
I've tried most of the jb ROMs and from my own experiences, Slim, liquid, and Paranoid are the best. I haven't tried remics or miui though.
Flash one of them and you should be happy. And actually I have the 4.2 camera and took a video at a wedding (in low light) and it was the best video I've taken since stock.
Again it's all personal preference. But stability wise I think jb is pretty awesome.
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If going past GB follow instructions on OP of whichever ROM you want. Another good guide to not get a brick is Andros11's guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31342159
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I've been wanting to give an aosp based Rom a try onthis phone. My main concern is stability and battery life. I know battery life is more of a kernel issue so I will address that later on. I've noticed some roms in original developement don't even specify which android version there based on, but which is currently most stable and 4.2? I need lte calls/sms/mms and camera to be working.
I'm basically looking for what has the LEAST issues. Has any developers gotten past the screen tearing yet?
And I know there are probably 100 of these threads, but none are current
the official cm10.1 by h8rift will usually be the most stable, as a lot of the other ones are based on that (i think). you should basically look for the most recently updated one. that'll have the newest features and latest bugfixes.
you can't go wrong with a bpear ROM, that guy is awesome and has released some of my favorite ROMs for this phone. link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2212825
he always updates them quickly and squashes all major bugs. that one is new so it may have some bugs, but i'm sure they won't be there for long. then once he fixes them, you won't have to delete everything and clean wipe and all that, you'll just have to flash over it with the new one.
bugs vary from phone to phone, so the only real way to figure out what you like is to flash them and check
they are all pretty stable other then known issues. screen tearing is a general issue with 4.2.x roms that use cm10.1 as a base. i would say try liquidsmooth, aokp, or carbon bpear96 aosp build.
Running liquidsmooth Stable and its great. Using it as a daily driver.
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DvineLord said:
they are all pretty stable other then known issues. screen tearing is a general issue with 4.2.x roms that use cm10.1 as a base. i would say try liquidsmooth, aokp, or carbon bpear96 aosp build.
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Running official 10.1 nightly with vz oc linaro kernel and disable HW overlays on I get ZERO tearing. I put it at standard clock speeds to and its great and very stable. Only time it freezes is every once in a great while after a phone call. Other than that I'm extremely happy.
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I'm running the Bpear CarbonRom 1.6 source build, underclocked to 1134mhz and still running smooth and stable.
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my personal experience
the most stable tend to be the ones that are more popular/bigger like CM 10.1, AOKP, etc.. at least in my experience. Though I personally love jellybam. I highly recommend it especially if you're a person who loves great audio. Though the only kernel that would work it is Rohan's beta as far as I know
There is no "most stable" ROM. Everyone uses their phone differently, and your mileage can and will vary. Same thing with battery life (and probably has as much, if not more to do with other factors, such as your geographic location and radio).
Its easy to look through the ROM threads to see what specific issues people have, known bugs, etc. Aside from that, just pick some that look like they fill your needs/preferences and try them out.
Since every device handles software a little differently, you need to try it out for yourself and see if you like it. Thats the beauty of XDA, you get to try it out yourself and see if YOU like it.
So since everyone has different options, Im going to close this before it becomes a BEST ROM THREAD... and we dont allow those.
So I've spent over half a day looking at all the custom rom options and now my head hurts.
Wayyyyy too many options. I even tried one (lunareclipse) out which is working great but not quite what I'm looking for.
All I need is a SIMPLE, STABLE and CLEAN rom devoid of pretty much everything but the necessary functions.
No google stuff, no battery gizmos, no fancy themes... just a completely cleaned out, stable rom.
I almost went for CM7 but I couldn't confirm its viability with an Atrix 2.
Anyone who can point me in the right direction will be owed a thousand thanks and over 900000000000 internets. :good:
You wanna stick with ics and below ?
Try the jb ROMs like PA 3.15, CM10.1. They are wayy better than ICS. They have some bugs though. ( look at their respective threads for more info)
And if you're sticking with ICS, try numa or scv7.
And btw, more details about your phone would be better like the region, Android version etc ( As some of the ROMs aren't made for ATT phones)
NOTE : YOU HAVE TO BE ON ICS FIRST TO TRY ANY OF THE ICS OR JB ROMs
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You wanna stick with ics and below ?
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I prefer 2.3.6 simply because I don't have ics and I'm not sure I want to add one more step unless there are huge gains in performance and stability to be had.
And I'm in NZ so it's obviously a non AT&T phone. And I've checked for ota updates, but the phone doesn't show any so I'm not sure how to go about upgrading to ics even if I wanted to.
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I prefer 2.3.6 simply because I don't have ics and I'm not sure I want to add one more step unless there are huge gains in performance and stability to be had.
And I'm in NZ so it's obviously a non AT&T phone. And I've checked for ota updates, but the phone doesn't show any so I'm not sure how to go about upgrading to ics even if I wanted to.
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I didn't spend much of time with GB, so I don't remember how it used to be. 4.2 is much better than ICS in my experience.
You get cool features like quick settings, expandable notifications and stuff.
See if any of the files from this thread suits your device region. Don't flash any other files other than the right one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934874
Trust me, ICS+ is a huge leap. looks WAY nicer, and runs smoother. Stock ICS is pretty clean compared to stock GB, but CM10.1 is probably the simplest of the custom roms. It keeps the stock android look, and adds a few nice little features. Feels pretty much like stock JB though, and trust me, JB is completely worth it. Project butter took the last step for a solid OS that ICS nearly brought.
CM10.1 is quite stable as long as you are not plagued with the black screen bug, which you will know right away. Other than that, the stock battery stats don't work (use Gsam, its really clean and simple), but it runs great otherwise.
I am not a fan of PA and I doubt you would be, as it has a ton of settings and features that you may not need.
PACman combines CM PA and AOKP, so it is full of features, but can be pretty clean.
AOKP is not out for us yet, but when I have time I am trying to get it working, as it is my favorite. Basically it is CM10.1 with a few great features added.
EDIT: just remembered, CM7 was never released for our phone, as it was too hard to get working at the time, so that is not an option, though in the days of GB it was great.
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I prefer 2.3.6 simply because I don't have ics and I'm not sure I want to add one more step unless there are huge gains in performance and stability to be had.
And I'm in NZ so it's obviously a non AT&T phone. And I've checked for ota updates, but the phone doesn't show any so I'm not sure how to go about upgrading to ics even if I wanted to.
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Hey mate, on my NZ Telecom A2 I have observed the following:
Stock 2.3.6: great stability, a little laggy, good battery
NZ Telecom ICS: great stability, ok performance (better than 2.3.6), good battery
JB leak: great stability, good performance, good battery, no device encryption
cm 10.1: : medium stability (occacional camera and sound hiccups that require restarts), great performance, good battery
these are the roms I have tested so far. If I could live w/o encryption, I'd go for the JB leak.
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I am not a fan of PA and I doubt you would be, as it has a ton of settings and features that you may not need.
PACman combines CM PA and AOKP, so it is full of features, but can be pretty clean.
AOKP is not out for us yet, but when I have time I am trying to get it working, as it is my favorite. Basically it is CM10.1 with a few great features added.
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PA actually has a lot less features and settings when compared to CM.. And it is a lot closer to "stock" AOSP jellybean than CM is.
PA's main and signature feature is the per-app size and color settings (and the PIE controls - until CM recently decided to merge those into their source code).
I am not getting defensive, but c'mon.. He won't be a fan of it because you are not a fan? Sounds like you never tried it yourself, so best let people form their own impressions.
Also, if you looked at the AOKP manifest, it is not basically CM10.1. It is AOKP - using a lot from Google's AOSP sources, and mostly just the hardware from CyanogenMod and a few other things.
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CM10.1 is quite stable as long as you are not plagued with the black screen bug, which you will know right away. Other than that, the stock battery stats don't work (use Gsam, its really clean and simple), but it runs great otherwise.
I am not a fan of PA and I doubt you would be, as it has a ton of settings and features that you may not need.
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PA actually has a lot less features and settings when compared to CM.. And it is a lot closer to "stock" AOSP jellybean than CM is.
PA's main and signature feature is the per-app size and color settings (and the PIE controls - until CM recently decided to merge those into their source code).
He won't be a fan of it because you are not a fan? Sounds like you never tried it yourself, so best let people form their own impressions.
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Lol CM10.1 vs PA(just kidding)...
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Lol CM10.1 vs PA(just kidding)...
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Sorry.. it seems like that, ey? That wasn't my intention.. There are plenty of ROMs to go around and plenty more on the way!
And.. "To each their own"
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Sorry.. it seems like that, ey? That wasn't my intention.. There are plenty of ROMs to go around and plenty more on the way!
And.. "To each their own"
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P.A user from its start build till now..double tumbs up to alteredlikeness
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alteredlikeness said:
PA actually has a lot less features and settings when compared to CM.. And it is a lot closer to "stock" AOSP jellybean than CM is.
PA's main and signature feature is the per-app size and color settings (and the PIE controls - until CM recently decided to merge those into their source code).
I am not getting defensive, but c'mon.. He won't be a fan of it because you are not a fan? Sounds like you never tried it yourself, so best let people form their own impressions.
Also, if you looked at the AOKP manifest, it is not basically CM10.1. It is AOKP - using a lot from Google's AOSP sources, and mostly just the hardware from CyanogenMod and a few other things.
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Sorry, I understand, but I really feel that CM is generally more straight forward and solid, I tried out PA for a change the other day, and while I understand the concept, it is just not really my thing, and judging by the description in the OP he seems to like things pretty plain. Maybe code wise it is closer to stock, but I have always felt that CM felt very clean and professional compared to many other ROMs. Not that they are bad, I have just liked the feel of CM better.
I admit to having some bias in my writing, but I feel that I and the OP have very similar tastes in what we are looking for.
Not trying to smash it or anything, I respect your work, and that of the developers of the ROM itself, but I just think it would not be best based on the given description.
I understand that AOKP is more AOSP, but I was trying to simplify here. In general, I feel that in the versions I have used it is very similar to CM, with a few more features, though it may not be directly from CM source.
Sorry to have disagreed with you, and of course everyone is welcome to their own opinions, I was just trying to give mine.
Sorry.. I was a little grumpy this morning
It's all good.
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EDIT: And, I agree, CM is the king of after-market firmware. And for good reason - it's good quality.. It helps that they have been around so long, and have enlisted an army of coders/programmers and average joe's contributing to the source by the minute.. But, yea, basically all of the other major custom ROMs use a lot of CM code.. Heck, I'm sure even Google merges CM changes back into AOSP at times.
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Sorry.. I was a little grumpy this morning
It's all good.
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EDIT: And, I agree, CM is the king of after-market firmware. And for good reason - it's good quality.. It helps that they have been around so long, and have enlisted an army of coders/programmers and average joe's contributing to the source by the minute.. But, yea, basically all of the other major custom ROMs use a lot of CM code.. Heck, I'm sure even Google merges CM changes back into AOSP at times.
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LOL, so true, whether they take direct code or not, thy have taken features multiple times!