So I have tried every launcher out there and every single one has lag on this dual core phone with 1g of ram. Any more than three widgets on the stock TW Launcher with three, five or seven screens lags. Same on Launcher Pro, SS Launcher, Go Launcher, ADW EX, Regina 3D, MX Home, Nemus, Hi Launcher, and all the rest. The only launcher that doesn't lag for me is SPB Shell, but it has no lock for the desktop and the widgets tend to want to move when swiping the screens.
How is it that a dual core phone with 1g of ram lags? I have a feeling it is the OS.
There are a lot of variables missing from this question. However, it should be noted that launchers get faster as you use them. If your impressions are based off of the first few minutes of use with each one, then go back and give them some time. Fixing permissions in rom manager can help sometimes as well, as can re-flashing or picking a new rom.
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There are a lot of variables missing from this question. However, it should be noted that launchers get faster as you use them. If your impressions are based off of the first few minutes of use with each one, then go back and give them some time. Fixing permissions in rom manager can help sometimes as well, as can re-flashing or picking a new rom.
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Okay, so I am on stock rom stock kernel rooted. I have spent a good amount of time with the TW Launcher, Go Launcher, Zeam, and Launcher Pro. Not a single one has ever gotten smoother with time. This is my sixth android in the last four years. It has always been like this as I have never had a launcher on any device that was as smooth as butter. I was finally thinking that a dual core with 1g of ram would probably handle this but alas no, still lag. What is it going to take for the Android OS to be smooth? Every time I upgrade I think this time it will be better. I would hope the new quad cores will finally be lag free, but of course Google will be updating to Jellybean by the end of the year and most likely will bring back the lag to even quad cores. One has to wonder why Google is constantly making the OS more and more CPU and GPU hungry instead of optimizing what we have and getting the current iteration perfect. It get's really old constantly beta testing devices that are 5 to 6 hundred dollars. Maybe it wouldn't be such a problem if Google had some form of customer service that actually worked. But as it stands a forum (Google Help forum) filled with unanswered questions and concerns is no help at all.
I'm not experiencing any lag... just like many, many other users, who have their "butter smooth experience".
Being logic about it, considering it doesn't happen to every Skyrocket user, but it does happen to you no matter which phone are you in, with all due respect, I would assume it's not about the system itself.
Hope you don't take it the wrong way, but I'd check my applications and settings, instead of blaming another party.
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Okay, so I am on stock rom stock kernel rooted. I have spent a good amount of time with the TW Launcher, Go Launcher, Zeam, and Launcher Pro. Not a single one has ever gotten smoother with time. This is my sixth android in the last four years. It has always been like this as I have never had a launcher on any device that was as smooth as butter. I was finally thinking that a dual core with 1g of ram would probably handle this but alas no, still lag. What is it going to take for the Android OS to be smooth? Every time I upgrade I think this time it will be better. I would hope the new quad cores will finally be lag free, but of course Google will be updating to Jellybean by the end of the year and most likely will bring back the lag to even quad cores. One has to wonder why Google is constantly making the OS more and more CPU and GPU hungry instead of optimizing what we have and getting the current iteration perfect. It get's really old constantly beta testing devices that are 5 to 6 hundred dollars. Maybe it wouldn't be such a problem if Google had some form of customer service that actually worked. But as it stands a forum (Google Help forum) filled with unanswered questions and concerns is no help at all.
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I don't know how you're having this problem. Mine is super smooth and responsive even on go launcher which is reported the slowest among the community. I guess you have too many widgets
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I don't know how you're having this problem. Mine is super smooth and responsive even on go launcher which is reported the slowest among the community. I guess you have too many widgets
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Go launcher is supposed to be the slowest? It's buttery smooth on mine. Which one would be the fastest?
To the OP, maybe as stated above, you have too many widgets. Could you provide a screenshot or simply a list of widgets/apps to show us what your working with?
The fastest launcher would be regular adw(not ex) or launcher pro. They have the least bloat of them all. Some of the asian launchers like 360 or espier are very fast as well.
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Go launcher is supposed to be the slowest? It's buttery smooth on mine. Which one would be the fastest?
To the OP, maybe as stated above, you have too many widgets. Could you provide a screenshot or simply a list of widgets/apps to show us what your working with?
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Yeah, go launcher is one of the bigger and slower launchers. The more animations, customization, and file size will make them slower. But Go launcher is smooth for me. But like tom said, adw and launcher pro are lighter weight, less footprint and therefore faster
Apex launcher works great. The problem is he is stock. And stock kernel.
Ditch stock you silly sally.
Use a custom rom .
Nova launcher if you're in ICS, working good here even when I have underclocked to 1.02 Ghz
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nemesis launcher best i tried
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I think the best ICS launcher is "Nova". But, you have to have root to use it.
Just take Silvers advice and flash a new kernel. I have the same problem when I'm stock on stock. Currently I'm stock rooted ICS touchwiz with Romracers kernel, fully bloated, no apps on sd, and I have zero lag. I you do a lot of flashing get in the habit of wiping everything.
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Just take Silvers advice and flash a new kernel. I have the same problem when I'm stock on stock. Currently I'm stock rooted ICS touchwiz with Romracers kernel, fully bloated, no apps on sd, and I have zero lag. I you do a lot of flashing get in the habit of wiping everything.
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What version are you using?
This rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426590
with this radio: http://d-h.st/8si
plus this kernal: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437563
Equals best Skyrocket experience I've ever had.
Just follow the instructions in the thread!!! Can't stress this enough.
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This rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426590
with this radio: http://d-h.st/8si
plus this kernal: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437563
Equals best Skyrocket experience I've ever had.
Just follow the instructions in the thread!!! Can't stress this enough.
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I tried that rom and saw that the wallpaper chooser was broken as it did not add scrolling wallpapers. Also have tried that kernel and it did not notice any difference in stock roms behavior. Not to discredit anything those devs have done.
Then it's just you.
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Then it's just you.
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Bahaha see I'm not the only one. If your unhappy with your experience GET AN IPHONE or BUILD A ROM YOURSELF thousands of threads out there time to learn end user
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I have never had lag my phone is responsive even stock the only one that was tricky was my Samsung moment
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we all understand that this phone as you have it does not work for you, but frankly i dont think anyone here cares and wants to listen to you complain about it and i dont know what you were expecting to get out of a thread that consists entirely of you complaining about something. maybe before you buy your next phone you should try testing it out in the store to see if it lives up to your standards. for me this phone is lag free on mhx superlite v4.2 with romracers kernel UCALC4 modem. if you really want a faster bug free experience try seanzscreams skyics 7.4 with fauxs kernel i used it for about 2 months before and only had to pull the battery once. just to be fair about android it is impossible for google to get it right because in the nature of open source Google can not force the OEMs to optimize it fully and they usually dont because it is money that they could be spending on releasing more phones. also the rom and kernel make a HUGE difference. i just put aokp 4.0.4 on my friends verizon fascinate which was on gingerbread and before it lagged in everything and constantly froze up but now it is at least as fast as the skyrocket on stock. that is why many people go for androids because if they dont like something or want to change or improve the user experience they can do it very easily but everything is not guaranteed to work perfectly. since everything working perfectly is one of your factors i would highly suggest looking at either iOS or at WP7 or if you decide to stay with android (which has undoubtedly gotten less laggy over the years and will continue to improve) look at the phone in the store to see if it is fast enough on stock. i have heard the HTC One series is very fast
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There were such topics. But today we have April. Some things have changed.
I would like to know what do you prefer, what do you have on your Nexus. I went through ROM threads here and there are almost all ROMs with ICS. Yesterday I played with a smartphone of my friend where he has GB and I was stunned how quick it is. Samsung Ace, quite weak phone. But it was really fast and smooth. I use ICS because.... it's just nicer, better, everything. But every ROM I tested is quite lagy in opening apps etc., especially after some time when cache is filled.
I would never expect that I will be thinking about downgrade. What do you think? Howdo you feel about it?
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There were such topics. But today we have April. Some things have changed.
I would like to know what do you prefer, what do you have on your Nexus. I went through ROM threads here and there are almost all ROMs with ICS. Yesterday I played with a smartphone of my friend where he has GB and I was stunned how quick it is. Samsung Ace, quite weak phone. But it was really fast and smooth. I use ICS because.... it's just nicer, better, everything. But every ROM I tested is quite lagy in opening apps etc., especially after some time when cache is filled.
I would never expect that I will be thinking about downgrade. What do you think? Howdo you feel about it?
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Though i never have tried the gingerbread firmware for the nexus s,(i bought it used buy a friend) i would never in my life downgrade now, because the looks of Orginal Ice cream sandwich is so beautiful and crisp So never
Agree, but it is also lagy which you really don't need to notice until you try iPhone or lower Android versions.
I've used Nexus S for 11 months, so I spent a reasonable time with GB. In my experience, ICS is a huge improvement from GB in terms of speed and design. Everything is just so smooth and fast. A lot of people are saying that GB is much faster than ICS but in my experience, it's the other way around.
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I've used Nexus S for 11 months, so I spent a reasonable time with GB. In my experience, ICS is a huge improvement from GB in terms of speed and design. Everything is just so smooth and fast. A lot of people are saying that GB is much faster than ICS but in my experience, it's the other way around.
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I'd love to say the same. But I have the biggest problem with opening apps which is really lagy. When I played with other phones on GB, that was absolutely instant, and when the apps were killed it was almost instatnt. But for my Nexus with ICS this is a problem. I am quite desperate with waiting all the time. The worst thing is tapping on contact to let pop up the contact dialog.
Yep, until ICS 4.03 these lags occured, but now with 4.04 they where gone. Is much better, GB-like responsiveness.
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Agree, but it is also lagy which you really don't need to notice until you try iPhone or lower Android versions.
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laggy ? which rom ? .. ive used bms stock ics, kongs miui and pixel rom .. none have lags especially with apex launcher
Your experience could be explained by transitioning from view to view? The transition animation in GB was a lot quicker than the default animation time in ICS. For this reason, I've been using 0.5x than the original 1.0x. If you wanted to remove all delay when opening an app you could use 0.0x times.
In my opinion, even if GB is "faster" the experience with the better apps, better APIs make it much more worth it to use ICS. I mean take a look at the MMS app in GB, then take a look at the MMS app in ICS: huge difference! Also, the Email app is much better.
GB is much faster but at the cost of user experience.
Good afternoon, how are you?
I particularly prefer ICS. It seems that the phone is smoother, faster. I have not experienced any kind of problem, or reboots, or loss of coverage, no nothing.
Graphic appearance is also important, and I think ICS improves enough to GB.
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I can't stand the ugliness of gingerbread, but ics has poor battery life and keeps rebooting on my phone.
That's why I'm using miui gb. Works well and looks good too.
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I can't stand the ugliness of gingerbread, but ics has poor battery life and keeps rebooting on my phone.
That's why I'm using miui gb. Works well and looks good too.
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Maybe its just you? I have excellent battery life with ICS using CM9.
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Maybe its just you? I have excellent battery life with ICS using CM9.
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Agree. My Nexus lasts two days even though I call, send messages and use some internet.
I hope the lags are the problem of 4.0.3. I use Codename ROM, so I wait for the update on 4.0.4. Hope it helps me!
ICS is way better than GB. It has really come a long way especially after the release of IMM76D 4.0.4.
I use Pixel ROM 1.72 + Air Kernel 3.9.5, The result is a pretty awesome battery life. much better than that of GB, and lots of free ram. Its very stable.
I have had my share of ****ty roms on ICS especially the ones leaked by google, but the tables have turned, and ICS is very good now. and much smoother than GB. My phone goes by for days without a single reboot or lag.
I hope this was of help
Are you running stock 4.0.3? Or have you tried any specific ROM?
When ICS was initially brought to our devices, it was laggy and I did return to GB...but now (with all ROMs bases on 4.0.4 with kernels running BIGMEM)...I don't see any reason why going back to GB....just not worth it lol!!
Hello, I'm looking to pass my SK4G on to a friend that just needs a good working phone. This used to be my wife's phone, but she got sick of it and I got her a MyTouch 4G Slide instead. Since I've never actually used it as my own phone, I'm not familiar with the ROM scene for this device. I'm just looking for the ROM that is the most stable with the least bugs, doesn't have to be bleeding-edge. I've seen some references to a "GOV2" ROM but I can't figure out where that ROM is. Can someone point me in the right direction to that ROM or another recommended rock-solid ROM? Thank you!
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Thanks for the help Shink, you've never lead me wrong before. Here's hoping someone can help.
I'm using GO, as my sig says,but it has random shutdowns, force closes A LOT, and has random reboots. Also very glitchy, and tegrak can't be used very well. I'm going to flash GenericGinger, or the new updated RubiX Ginger. I like reactivedisorder for his specialty in scripts. Indeed very handy. If only he had this device. So I'm looking to the ginger ROMS. Hope this helped
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I tried a number of ROMs over the year or so I've had the device. GenericGinger 2.0 has been the most stable for me during that time.
However, it isn't flawless, and development ceased long ago, so I plan to try CM_alike once it is stable.
The pure stock KJ2 ROM has served me pretty well. I have heavily debloated it, uninstalled the Touchwiz launcher and all it's widgets, and I Odined the Platypus_Egg kernel onto it, to give it that extra voodoo-lagfix edge(then later flashed nxd's version w/keystroke logging disabled).
Pretty much the only time it reboots is occasionally when opening the Facebook app, and perhaps that is because the app is loading a lot of data and using GPS. I go into the Task Manager app regularly and make sure there is enough available RAM to prevent glitchy behavior.
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The pure stock KJ2 ROM has served me pretty well. I have heavily debloated it, uninstalled the Touchwiz launcher and all it's widgets, and I Odined the Platypus_Egg kernel onto it, to give it that extra voodoo-lagfix edge(then later flashed nxd's version w/keystroke logging disabled).
Pretty much the only time it reboots is occasionally when opening the Facebook app, and perhaps that is because the app is loading a lot of data and using GPS. I go into the Task Manager app regularly and make sure there is enough available RAM to prevent glitchy behavior.
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It's true.
The platypus_egg kernel and a stock (de-bloated) KJ2 rom are very stable. Boring and a step slow, but stable.
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It's true.
The platypus_egg kernel and a stock (de-bloated) KJ2 rom are very stable. Boring and a step slow, but stable.
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Yeah, you nailed it: it is stable, everything works, and you have all the native stock functions if you want them. but where you sacrifice is in the speed of opening apps and navigating around, etc.
I personally deal with the boredom by using Go Launcher Ex with themes by Team Carbon (even tho Go seems to be one of the slower launchers out there, but I love the widgets, themes and customization, and it seems great on battery)
Hey all,
I get my phone tomorrow, and coming from an Incredible 2 that was running paranoid android ROM i am anxious to see what this can do with the same sort of software, bigger screen.
I really like stock roms, and although all the software tricks the s3 does sounds good, I dont think I would use many of them.
So question is, are all the JB roms pretty much stable?
The Incredible 2 was missing any camera features (just wouldnt work) and google now was non existant...
But yeah, which way would you go?
I've tried Synergy ROM and also Paranoid Android. Personally I am loving PA right now. In the most recent stable build 1.9.5 nearly everything was working. There are some minor (to me) things like not being able to send MMS, but the fluidity of JellyBean is so worth it and Google Now works flawlessly. With the screen being as big as it is, the on screen keys don't seem to take up too much room for me, and I've really gotten used to them. It also disables the backlight for the physical keys so they disappear in the phone. Again...with the screen size, hybrid mode is really nice. The dual-pane display make going through setting a lot easier and really it just looks fantastic. One huge part for me was the JB messaging app. The stock TW one just looked so ugly, it made me hate texting...
Anyway, some of the motion features were nice, the ones I used the most were the swipe to capture screenshot and also direct call from messaging (putting the phone up to your ear whilst in a text conversation) but the rest were pretty worthless IMO.
If you don't feel like dealing with a not so functioning camera and a few other bugs, I would go with Synergy. Noticably faster than stock, I even got faster data speeds, too. Just anything but stock haha.
Any more questions let me know.
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Hey all,
I get my phone tomorrow, and coming from an Incredible 2 that was running paranoid android ROM i am anxious to see what this can do with the same sort of software, bigger screen.
I really like stock roms, and although all the software tricks the s3 does sounds good, I dont think I would use many of them.
So question is, are all the JB roms pretty much stable?
The Incredible 2 was missing any camera features (just wouldnt work) and google now was non existant...
But yeah, which way would you go?
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Personally, it never made much sense to me to run a ROM as your DD that disables basic functions like MMS.
I have tried all the available ROMs just to satisfy my curiosity at that point, but I always end up back with the root66 as it is every bit as fast and fluid as any other ROM (claims that another ROM are noticeably faster than a debloated stock setup are total BS) and every function works perfectly. I do run synergy at times also and it's awesome as well.
I have a setup running NOVA Launcher that is awesome. Apex and Nova where always a bit laggy in previous phones but the response is virtually instant and it's smooth and fluid in the G3 so anybodies claims that another ROM can make this setup noticeably faster are just a placebo IMHO.
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Personally, it never made much sense to me to run a ROM as your DD that disables basic functions like MMS.
I have tried all the available ROMs just to satisfy my curiosity at that point, but I always end up back with the root66 as it is every bit as fast and fluid as any other ROM (claims that another ROM are noticeably faster than a debloated stock setup are total BS) and every function works perfectly. I do run synergy at times also and it's awesome as well.
I have a setup running NOVA Launcher that is awesome. Apex and Nova where always a bit laggy in previous phones but the response is virtually instant and it's smooth and fluid in the G3 so anybodies claims that another ROM can make this setup noticeably faster are just a placebo IMHO.
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Agreed. I think the only reason I don't run stock (or any debloated form of stock is just because I'm flash happy and really like active development of Team Synergy)
I'm running Synergy 1.5 right now - no complaints here. Runs smoothly and I'm also using Nova and not seeing any lag. Recently flashed the leankernel and cpu editor script. Will see if that makes any difference in battery life. Even if it doesn't, I won't be upset because let's face it...I'm a heavy user of the device. I've purchased a couple extra batteries (with a charging cradle) that I can just pop in and out when needed. Best solution for me!
I have been testing out many of the roms here for my new galaxy s3 coming from my htc droid incredible.
When i picked and chose my rom on the incredible there were things about sense i liked things I did not like but over all the performance was varied wildly most of the time it was asop or akop that was higher preforming on my inc so my choice was easy i ran akop roms most of the time infact my inc is running akop jellybean right now it runs great with the obvious issues of it just is not as fast as my gs3 nor does it have the big screen my gs3 has.
My experience with the galaxy s 3 has been rather different the way it organized its file system and favors internal storage over the sd card has been somewhat annoying as well i have found the reverse of my experiences with my incredible to be true now touch wiz has better performance than asop but it has more bugs and issues than running ported roms on my htc. While asop works great on it and is mostly bug free it just doesn't have the speed and feel of touch wiz and i keep wanting to go back to a tw based rom.
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mirrin said:
I have been testing out many of the roms here for my new galaxy s3 coming from my htc droid incredible.
When i picked and chose my rom on the incredible there were things about sense i liked things I did not like but over all the performance was varied wildly most of the time it was asop or akop that was higher preforming on my inc so my choice was easy i ran akop roms most of the time infact my inc is running akop jellybean right now it runs great with the obvious issues of it just is not as fast as my gs3 nor does it have the big screen my gs3 has.
My experience with the galaxy s 3 has been rather different the way it organized its file system and favors internal storage over the sd card has been somewhat annoying as well i have found the reverse of my experiences with my incredible to be true now touch wiz has better performance than asop but it has more bugs and issues than running ported roms on my htc. While asop works great on it and is mostly bug free it just doesn't have the speed and feel of touch wiz and i keep wanting to go back to a tw based rom.
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What bugs and issues on TW are you referring to? And speed? I definitely disagree. TW is bloated as hell.. 700+mb compared to 150mb on aosp. Over clock with the ktweaker app up to 2.1ghz and change your governor/scheduler to sio/smartassv2. Perhaps that will change your mind.
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What bugs and issues on TW are you referring to? And speed? I definitely disagree. TW is bloated as hell.. 700+mb compared to 150mb on aosp. Over clock with the ktweaker app up to 2.1ghz and change your governor/scheduler to sio/smartassv2. Perhaps that will change your mind.
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overclocking to 2.1 is pointless and does nothing but drain the battery faster. touchwiz imo is very close to the performance of aosp. i like both at this point and probably favor aosp slightly once the ril is perfected.
I wont defend the fact tw is bloated as hell i about flipped my **** when i saw the roms were 500+mb and like i had said i am used to the incredible where the size of the rom maxed out was 250mb literally unless you took some of the 750mb htc allocated for user apps.
That said I dont know if the cpu/gpu drivers for touch wiz are different or what but every asop rom i have tried is slower than every tw rom i have tried is slower not that it makes a huge difference as i am running a asop atm i do miss a few features of the touch wiz base most are cosmetic.
Also I am not going to overclock to achieve the same result that asop roms should easily achieve. sio did help a little though. Also not like the test im doing to see how my phone is doing. antutu and quadrant I am seeing a difference of 1500-2000 points in quadrant and 1200 in antutu. And those are not really that great of a way to tell anything.
Until I got the G3 I always ran aosp on any device where it was possible.
The G3 is a different story however, I have tried every ROM available & at this point I am completely baffled why anybody would put up with a buggy aosp ROM (& every one has bugs) when the TW ROMs are just as fast/smooth etc & everything works perfectly.
No matter what ROM I try, I keep coming back to the setup in my sig for my DD.
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Until I got the G3 I always ran aosp on any device where it was possible.
The G3 is a different story however, I have tried every ROM available & at this point I am completely baffled why anybody would put up with a buggy aosp ROM (& every one has bugs) when the TW ROMs are just as fast/smooth etc & everything works perfectly.
No matter what ROM I try, I keep coming back to the setup in my sig for my DD.
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Yeah coming from a GNex I figured I would hate TW but I actually like it. I kind of got bored with AOSP honestly. It's nice having all these features without having to use ROMs that hacked the features in in a sloppy manner.
As much as i like jb, aosp is slower and a battery hog. Im on cm10 atm but have beans rom on backup.
personally i lasted 2 days on aosp, found it buggy and the phone is quick w TW so I don't see a need for more speed.
running beans build 14 right now and i really like the ridiculously large level of customization you can do yourself. this is where ROMs should head IMHO, the devs don't make the design/theme choices but leave it up to the user to be able to have many choices after the ROM is flashed.
so great to have choices.
I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
me too. i tried all the aosp roms and miui. and always find myself going back to stock touchwiz. which is funny. i remember before i bought the phone all i heard was "the only bad thing is it has touchwiz UI" and " touchwiz sucks" and i absolutely love it.
i prefer AOSP
TW but using Nova Launcher and Google Now instead of S Voice.
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I've been using the GS3 since it came out and have had this weird back and forth opinion of TouchWiz and AOSP. I was just wanting to get the opinion of the rest of the community to see if anyone feels the same way I do. Opinion Below:
For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android. But the moment I loaded CleanRom 5.5.1, all the feeling of the GS3 came back. I can't really explain it, but it just feels good. the software goes to well with the screen size, the way I hold the phone, and (sorry, but) I now love S Voice more than Google's Voice Commands. i can set timers, text people, set events for work and S Voice locks onto my voice so much quicker than when it's older versions.
Again, this is just my opinion, but I would love to hear your reasons for picking one over the other, what killer thing you can't live without, or even why you don't care. I'm down for any conversation.
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Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
prdog1 said:
Basically CM/AOSP/AOKP is the Nexus with better hardware. If you want the same thing but faster that is where you go. If want all the bells and whistles you go TW. It is what you looking for. I stick with TW where all works and run all the 4.1.1/4.1.2/4.2/4.2.1 apps that we can port. I want everything on my $600 device to work . That includes every option that came on the phone. To me breaking the phone to go fast is not an option. Newer options are worthless if all you can do is call if you are lucky. I could call with a brick in the 70's. :laugh:
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I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
I don't mind touchwiz all that much. Couldn't stand sense or moto blur but tw the isn't all that bad. Throw on apex the launcher and I'm good to go.
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DaemonAshra said:
I didn't really think of it in those terms, but that's pretty much dead on. with CM10, i did a lot more CPU management, tweaking, and seeing what little things i could change to make the phone break the laws of physics (didn't do it). And with TouchWiz. I kinda just sit back and use my phone as a phone. call, text, watch youtube. I still like to keep my titanium backups synced to dropbox, but not much more.
Random, but every time I load a new ROM that I've never used before, the first thing I do is call one of my parents. Always need to make sure I can send a phone call.
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Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
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Man I'm probably old enough to be your daddy. :laugh: I been playing and testing for some of the best in the business for a while. If it broke it is not cutting edge. Making broke go faster makes no sense to me. You should be able to make what works go faster and still work. Being on the cutting edge of broke is for the devs not for the masses. Once stable go for it. But if your wife, girlfriend or parents can't get hold of you cause your on cutting edge of broke you have a problem.
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I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
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I agree completely about you being old.
Between the Data not working on CM10.1 for the first week or so, and little errors that come with devs trying to port other phones' features into their ROM's, I was prompted to go back to CleanROM and just take a breath from all the flashing and rebooting. I'll be looking for that 4.1.2 update. but I'll stay away from the real crazy stuff.
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I'm currently on Beans stock deodex with Ziggy's latest kernel @1.72/384. Kinda craps mods and Moto's International VRTheme. All Gapps 4.1-4.2 inverted. Rock stable and running 6500 Quads. Everything works including call recording.
I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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1ManWolfePack said:
I've been flashing for awhile.
At this point (actually - Nov 1st) I've been CleanROM only. Everything "works" + mixed with WasabiWa's themes - I'm a happy man.
This is the tamest my crack flashing has ever been. It's almost scary. TW JB is pretty nice...
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Wolfe don't be sucking these kids in for the kill. I'm stock tweaked, deodexed, kerneled and themed. Rockin it . :laugh:
I can't imagine AOSP being much faster than TW with the necessary apps frozen. On my old phones AOSP was definitely the way to go, but the S3 is so powerful anyways, and TW isn't very heavy anymore.
And, in all honesty, the TW Camera app alone is worth it for me to stay on TW. All the non-TW camera apps pale in comparison, both in quality and options.
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I agree completely about you being old.
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Haha.. made me laugh
I honestly can't stand TW. I have it on my wife's phone because she likes the camera better than the AOSP. But it just seems like TW just tried to be too pretty and to me it didn't make me happy. Even though AOSP has its little bugs, I just like it better. There are no widgets that I'm OMG about really like I was with Sense, for instance their music player, calendar, clock, and Facebook for HTC sense app... of course I prefer sense 3.5 style widgets a little more than 4. So I just stick with MIUI because that was the AOSP that made me fall in love with AOSP. Used to have the Dinc and Dinc2 and it ran flawlessly on both. Just pure love.
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For some strange reason, I feel better using the Galaxy S III with the TouchWiz UX interface. I used it for a number of months with CM10, but when I was using that interface, I didn't feel like I was using a my Samsung Phone. Even though I had a Galaxy Nexus and loved my time with it (before i dropped it in the river...), the same interface on this particular phone just didn't feel "right". Like I was emulating a completely different version of android.
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This.
I loaded up AOKP and tried that out for awhile. It was lightning fast on pretty much everything, but I just didn't feel like I was using my GS3 that I had fallen in love with. I'm on the stock JB OTA with Kindacrap Mods 2.6 flashed. The small tweaks in there make the phone for me. Everything's a little bit faster and once I found out that I could make the home button faster (my biggest complaint since owning the phone) simply by disabling the S-Voice polling, just more love to be had.
Being able to set separate lock screen and homescreen wallpapers that don't move (used to love the movement, but not so much anymore) is great. S-Beam is awesome. The premium suite will (hopefully) be a wonderful tweak. Samsung and TouchWiz have come a long way since my first Android phone: the Captivate on AT&T.
To me it is not about speed at this point but stability. Top end devices today do not need to go any faster then when you take it out of the box. I still scratch my head when I see people over clocking their S3. This thing already runs faster then some laptops that people own. Also, can't prove anything is faster when overclocking except running a benchmark. Otherwise they all feel the same!
I love the AOSP experience and options but it still has bugs that are important to me on the S3 so I am forced to use TW. Luckily TW is not that bad on the S3 and works well. If an AOSP Rom was bug free I surely would be running it. And don't believe the hype when people tell you AOSP has no bugs. It can run stable but has bugs that prevent me from using it as a daily.
Running Pure's TW Rom right now it works great. Already has part of multi-window cooked in with the bar on the left and all your apps showing. Hopefully next release will actually have the multi window. He also said that he has the ink effect on the lockscreen for the next rls as well. He is always pushing the bar with new features so I am pretty content right now with TW.
CM10.1 kangs have been nothing but stable for me since I got my S3 a few weeks ago. I like the whole interface and experience; hated TW. Call me lucky but I'm 100% satisfied.
I've gone back and forth between AOSP and TW-based ROMS. Besides stability, I do enjoy the extra features that are on the stock framework.
I'm just curious to see how developers will utilize the source code into their ROMS, now that it's out.
I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
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I like AOSP if it works. I would easily be on cm10.1 if everything worked, but until then, I think I have to use my phone as a phone
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Same here. I ran AOSP on my OG Epic and while I liked it for what our offered, constant struggles with features broken/ not working made me steer clear of it on GS3 until ALL phone functions work as well as they do on TW.