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Browser hardware acceleration?

I've read in many places that Samsung put hardware acceleration in their browser on their phones.
If that's true, why is browsing so unbelievably jerky? I'm running the latest Firefly ROM, FYI. My co-worker was showing me his iPhone 4 and its browsing experience, and it just completely demolished my Captivate.

Well maybe the site you were on had flash stuff on it. That will slow down the browser regardless of whether or not it has been hardware accelerated.
I haven't seen any big lags on the captivate i'm using right now, even with flash. Even with my HD2, browsing isn't laggy.

The test site we were using was Engadget, the desktop version (not the mobile version). So I guess mine was much more choppier because it had Flash going on, while the iPhone did not?

try turning off plugins and compare again. ill bet it's the flash

Dani897 said:
try turning off plugins and compare again. ill bet it's the flash
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Nope. Turned off Flash as well as disabling Javascript, same old. Jerky and very unsmooth. Not to mention it checkerboards.

You should see how fast the browser is in the leaked 2.3 rom that popped up two weeks ago. The speed difference between the 2.2 and leaked 2.3 browser is VERY noticeable and makes the 2.2 browser look like the alpha leak.

modest_mandroid said:
You should see how fast the browser is in the leaked 2.3 rom that popped up two weeks ago. The speed difference between the 2.2 and leaked 2.3 browser is VERY noticeable and makes the 2.2 browser look like the alpha leak.
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Is it possible to put the browser from the 2.3 into 2.2 ROMs?

there is no gurantee that hardware accellerated browsing made it through the rom cutting process, there are many things removed as "bloat ware" that arent bad or carrier applied, also you mentioned with "their browser" does your rom use "their browser"?
"hardware accelerated" doesnt mean "will just work".

Trusselo said:
there is no gurantee that hardware accellerated browsing made it through the rom cutting process, there are many things removed as "bloat ware" that arent bad or carrier applied, also you mentioned with "their browser" does your rom use "their browser"?
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I have no idea if Firefly uses the Samsung browser. I'll ask in the ROM thread. Still, it's pretty pathetic the difference between the iPhone user experience and the Android user experience.

my browsing is great, even on flash video sites like watch.thecomedynetwork.ca (canada only). everything loads quick and plays nicely, with default browser and dolphin browser.
its possible your phone doesnt like the modem your rom uses. try a new modem.
its kind of unfair to flash custom software and say the "phone" is worse than another, you arent comparing to stock approved software for your phone and location.
its like saying your computer sucks because it got a virus..

Trusselo said:
my browsing is great, even on flash video sites like watch.thecomedynetwork.ca (canada only). everything loads quick and plays nicely, with default browser and dolphin browser.
its possible your phone doesnt like the modem your rom uses. try a new modem.
its kind of unfair to flash custom software and say the "phone" is worse than another, you arent comparing to stock approved software for your phone and location.
its like saying your computer sucks because it got a virus..
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I tried multiple modems. First one was JL2, I'm on JK4 now. I don't see how a modem would equate to displaying a webpage. Loading, yes, but displaying, how?
I'm running a custom ROM to give this phone a fair chance. Running the complete garbage that is stock ROM on this phone is laughable at best.

if your browser is checkerboarding you must be on the stock 2.2.1 browser that is horrible. find the 2.2.1 browser thread and i have a .zip in there will fix checkerboarding and somewhat the gif issue also.
and even if the iphone browser is a little smoother(which i didnt notice a big difference in my iphone 4 and captivate), the 2.2(and 2.1 for that matter) browser loads pages significantly faster. mine did every page every time. the iphones browser also seems smoother when zooming because it does not reflow text AT ALL. our phones do. ill take the text reflowing any day.

are you using any task managers or antivirus programs? anything that may be running in the background on boot and/or scanning what you are doing/veiwing?

Hardware accelerated browser app is on the leaked Samsung ginngerbread that doesn't work on our cappies?
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Trusselo said:
are you using any task managers or antivirus programs? anything that may be running in the background on boot and/or scanning what you are doing/veiwing?
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No, I use none of them. I'm aware that Froyo negates the need for any type of task manager/task killers. No anti-virus either (unnecessary).
All I'm doing is opening the browser and viewing a page like Engadget. The scrolling/pinch to zoom is very jerky and is not fluid at all.

Just to add what the OP is saying, I am on Cognition 3.04 and I notice the browser is jerky when scrolling and just generally laggy when scrolling or re-sizing. I would say worse than stock in terms of the experience on the page, not talking about load times.

Running Cognition 4.1.1 here and it seems good to me. Maybe a little jerky on scrolling but nothing serious. Pinch zoom is smooth.

I feel like my user experience got worse after the upgrade from 2.1 stock to 2.2 stock. I have plug-ins set to on demand.

NEXUS S Browser Lag

Hi all
I have a galaxy Tab and Nexus S ..when Nexus S is faster the bowser isnt impressive on both devices..
I yesterdfay installed OVERCOME rom on my Galaxy Tab and..browser is even smoother than IPAD..i mean really really buttery smooth i will try to upload a video..Can any one using Overcome rom confirm me the changes made so that we can have same quality of browser on Nexus S because GOOGLE so far is behaving like a **** to us..
Its a reall wonderful i checked now on galaxy Tab.Specs are same for Nexus S.Please i need positive replies..currently there is no rom which makes browser buttery smooth...Let me tell you Opera is very smooth but in case of OVERCOME rom now stock browser is matchless fastest and smoothest browser i have seen in life...much smooth what apple can offer thats a fact even with FLASh on

Opera is smooth but the interface is not user friendly. It would be great if xda developers can mod nexus s browser
Sent from my NOOB Nexus S with the poor english by using XDA Premium App

opera is s smooth bro but The browser mod i talked about is much buttery than opera...is their anyone from Google team on this thread...such a expensive phone with a pathetic browser...

Can anyone confirm a ROM which includes galaxy S JPu browser...It was a great browser
Let me verify that FLASH is not responsible for LAG...i confirmed this s from my experience of android phones till date.

This is not connected with Flash performance. Problem occurs on many browsers not only stock browser. Only ones that work fine is Opera or firefox (but slower).
O think this is a driver problem - same lag exists in Waze app (free gps application) while not occuring on for example DHD.

cant they make drivers for their flagship device..thats certainly unbelivable

papubhai said:
cant they make drivers for their flagship device..thats certainly unbelivable
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Yeah, the situation is extremely frustrating. I probably would return my Nexus if it was possible at this point. The browser issue can be fixed by using opera (which is everything except perfect), but there are a lot of other ui elements that suffer from this too.
Can't believe nexus has had this good reviews as it has. Also, I can't believe Google's attitude towards this problem, perhaps they can fix it with ice-cream sandwich, but that ain't coming until Q4, a year after the phone's launch.
I find it quite interesting that other android phones, phones with skins, don't suffer the lag issue - or nearly to the extent the nexus suffers. God, it simply isn't acceptable to wait until November-September time frame... iPhone may be limited to the extreme, but at least it works. I loved my Desire from the beginning, should have not sold it.
Please, star the bug report from the link.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...c=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars&id=13404
There is yet another bug report for the whole UI.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...pu&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
And also a bug report concerning hw-acceleration, marked as solved, but it still has a lot of new reports.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...rs&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
I, personally, and probably many others, would appreciate if users that experience (all?) there problems would star these as issues, or at least the first one.

gee i thought i was the only one who noticed this lag
i come from an iphone, so i know what "buttery smooth" means... the nexus s is NOT "buttery smooth"
the stock browser SUCKS.. can't handle images very well (try scrolling up and down http://www.anandtech.com/ you'll see what i mean)
i use opera because it's the smoothest browser out there... i've tried firefox and stock browser wrappers like dolphin, miren, etc but they all lag in comparison... i use opera with the stock browser's user agent because web developers don't care about opera (browse the internet with stock opera settings and u'll see what i mean)
btw, do you think this will work? [MOD][JVQ] NEW LAGFREE BROWSER for DEODEXED JVQ-ROMS

ShadowVlican said:
.. i use opera with the stock browser's user agent because web developers don't care about opera (browse the internet with stock opera settings and u'll see what i mean)
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How do you use opera with stock agent?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

my browser is buttery smooth.. im using the latest cm7(nightlies and kangs) with the trinity11 kernel.

Cmmts said:
Yeah, the situation is extremely frustrating. I probably would return my Nexus if it was possible at this point. The browser issue can be fixed by using opera (which is everything except perfect)...
Can't believe nexus has had this good reviews as it has. Also, I can't believe Google's attitude towards this problem, ...I find it quite interesting that other android phones, phones with skins, don't suffer the lag issue -
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What I think is interesting is how many people on the forums who say they love this phone because it is "PURE GOOGLE!" as if they did not realize that the issues are not getting fixed in a timely manner. (radio issues, battery issues, browser lag, etc.)

I'm using opera as well. The stock browser is a pile of garbage when there's more than a few images. It's pretty sad.
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simms22 said:
my browser is buttery smooth.. im using the latest cm7(nightlies and kangs) with the trinity11 kernel.
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try browsing websites with multiple images (www.anandtech.com www.futureshop.ca etc...)
if it doesn't lag at all for you (iphone smooth) then i might have to give CM7 nightly and trinity kernel a try too

ShadowVlican said:
try browsing websites with multiple images (www.anandtech.com www.futureshop.ca etc...)
if it doesn't lag at all for you (iphone smooth) then i might have to give CM7 nightly and trinity kernel a try too
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uploading a video for you. sorry about the quality, its recorded on my original droid.

ShadowVlican said:
try browsing websites with multiple images ( etc...)
if it doesn't lag at all for you (iphone smooth) then i might have to give CM7 nightly and trinity kernel a try too
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here you go, i went to both sites http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKLTpgYXae0

wow that's impressive! what's your secret?
i can't stand the stock browser lag... and i can't stand the non-webkit opera... i want the best of both worlds (smooth and well supported, respectively)
here's a video i just made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpuaNanxdEE
this test is repeatable with stock rom, previous netarchy kernels, trinity uv11 kernel... haven't tried cm7 though
now i just might have to cm7 nightly and/or trinity kernel... i have a feeling it has something to do with cm7 nightly

simms22 said:
here you go, i went to both sites http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKLTpgYXae0
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The browser is usually pretty fast after a fresh reboot. Give it a couple of days without a reboot and the browser slows down quite a bit even with cm 7.1 nightly and trinity kernel.
That being said, cm 7.1 does have some performance mods that make it faster than stock.

So is the browser laggy or websites not configured right for mobile view
Happens on my tablet some sites are great and some not so good
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Its the browser... opera can handle these websites no problem... so can my iPhone 3gs
I will try cm7 nightly
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

ShadowVlican said:
wow that's impressive! what's your secret?
i can't stand the stock browser lag... and i can't stand the non-webkit opera... i want the best of both worlds (smooth and well supported, respectively)
here's a video i just made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpuaNanxdEE
this test is repeatable with stock rom, previous netarchy kernels, trinity uv11 kernel... haven't tried cm7 though
now i just might have to cm7 nightly and/or trinity kernel... i have a feeling it has something to do with cm7 nightly
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eww.. i see what youre talking about. im glad that i dont get that! what kind of data speeds do you see, because that will affect it too.

[q] poor touchscreen performance

I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing any noticeable touch screen lag when doing web browsing. What I mean by lag is a quarter second of nothing before you can move the page. This seems to be the same whether I'm using the stock browser, ics+ and even chrome. My old captivate running cm9, although certainly a slower phone, wouldn't do this at all. It happens more on busy pages.
Maybe I'm being nitpicky but it really bothers me

Oogy said:
I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing any noticeable touch screen lag when doing web browsing. What I mean by lag is a quarter second of nothing before you can move the page. This seems to be the same whether I'm using the stock browser, ics+ and even chrome. My old captivate running cm9, although certainly a slower phone, wouldn't do this at all. It happens more on busy pages.
Maybe I'm being nitpicky but it really bothers me
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I used this htc one x for three days and Coming from a galaxy nexus I no exactly what u mean, this phone is slow, laggy, and just not what i was hoping for, ive been using my galaxy nexus all today and its so.much better, I'm actually on my way to return the one x, one x is no better than inspire 4 g ( I have one those 2 ) in my opinion....
So answer ur question yes; )

It's especially bad while a busy page is loading. I can move all around a webpage while it is loading on my captivate while this thing is pretty unresponsive. I tried dolphin as well and it wasn't much better.

Oogy said:
It's especially bad while a busy page is loading. I can move all around a webpage while it is loading on my captivate while this thing is pretty unresponsive. I tried dolphin as well and it wasn't much better.
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Ya I use stock browser on both phones, and no lag on the GNexus, u shouldn't have to change browser to get to work right, hopefully they update it soon or someone cracks the bootloader but im never buying a at&t branded htc agn. If u decide to return it buy a GN or a Samsung skyrocket I have one of those also and I love that phone . I think ima wait for G3 . Good day!

Did i get a Lemon or the infinity sucks?

Hello people.
I got my infinity 64gb from amazon on Wednesday. So far, i have mix feelings...
The screen is beautiful, no doubt. But, the lag just disappoints. While loading pages, using stock browser btw, it hangs for a couple of seconds. It is somewhat acceptable, but i get the annoying "not responding message, wait or close app" from android.
I really have mix feelings, thinking i might have a lemon and might exchange it for a new 1.
Anyone having the same experience with their infinity? Getting lots of waits or any hang ups with your infinity?
If anyone thinks this is related to that i//o issues (i really don't exactly know how that affects the tablet besides writing and reading memory cards). Please share your thoughts
For the specs, i would think this is my so long waited ipad killa!!! Or maybe go for the acer 700. Maybe i was expecting too much?

chino145 said:
Hello people.
I got my infinity 64gb from amazon on Wednesday. So far, i have mix feelings...
The screen is beautiful, no doubt. But, the lag just disappoints. While loading pages, using stock browser btw, it hangs for a couple of seconds. It is somewhat acceptable, but i get the annoying "not responding message, wait or close app" from android.
I really have mix feelings, thinking i might have a lemon and might exchange it for a new 1.
Anyone having the same experience with their infinity? Getting lots of waits or any hang ups with your infinity?
If anyone thinks this is related to that i//o issues (i really don't exactly know how that affects the tablet besides writing and reading memory cards). Please share your thoughts
For the specs, i would think this is my so long waited ipad killa!!! Or maybe go for the acer 700. Maybe i was expecting too much?
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I'm having the same issues. I believe many others are having the same issues. I'm sticking with mine and hope Asus fixes us fast.

Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
With Chrome, I got sunspider result of 1400's at balance mode, which is not only faster than the stock browser, but actually the fastest among all mobile when compared to table below.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23153/5

HoushaSen said:
Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
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I have but it not only hangs in the browsers it does in apps also.

leroybrute said:
I have but it not only hangs in the browsers it does in apps also.
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Any specific application? I use tablet for ebook reading so I highly rely on those applications, but I noticed previously working fine application (Mantano reader) became much slower to open file above 50MB, and in fact I get "Not responding.." error message very frequently. However, they just released beta version for next coming release. This works like charm. Ultra fast. They did not specifically say improved performance for ICS, quad core etc... but it works... So I wonder there is some component of applications not optimized for ICS. But this is just my guess and no solid logic to prove this as I don't know if current official version of Mantano is ICS optimized or not.

I like android because of flash supprt and flexibility with the os. If not, i would prob gotten an ipad instead. Not than i am a fan of ios anyhow. What bothers me is the fact that i get a smoother experience with my evo 3d than this. Surely when it loads a page, it stalls for a 2 secs or so. With my evo, nothing similar happens. Besides, multitasking is literally dead on the infinity. Isnt androi supposed to be true multitasking?! Like i said, i have mix feelings

HoushaSen said:
Any specific application? I use tablet for ebook reading so I highly rely on those applications, but I noticed previously working fine application (Mantano reader) became much slower to open file above 50MB, and in fact I get "Not responding.." error message very frequently. However, they just released beta version for next coming release. This works like charm. Ultra fast. They did not specifically say improved performance for ICS, quad core etc... but it works... So I wonder there is some component of applications not optimized for ICS. But this is just my guess and no solid logic to prove this as I don't know if current official version of Mantano is ICS optimized or not.
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Not really. Like I said in another post "erratic". Its an OS problem that will get fixed with updates.

Its a lemon party around here. Heh.
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HoushaSen said:
Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
With Chrome, I got sunspider result of 1400's at balance mode, which is not only faster than the stock browser, but actually the fastest among all mobile when compared to table below.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23153/5
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Got the same running Chrome in balanced mode (1391). Still a lot compared to Chrome on my laptop (277-329), but looks good on this chart ^^
Boat Browser got 1659, interesting, thought it would be better.
Stock browser scored 1912 ms. Not bad at all.
Opera Mobile = 1443, which is a surprise to me.

d14b0ll0s said:
Got the same running Chrome in balanced mode (1391). Still a lot compared to Chrome on my laptop (277-329), but looks good on this chart ^^
Boat Browser got 1659, interesting, thought it would be better.
Stock browser scored 1912 ms. Not bad at all.
Opera Mobile = 1443, which is a surprise for me.
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Effing casuals(jk). I got under 1290 on my sold prime with Firefox.
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Do a "cold reboot" and thank this miracle worker later. Works wonders for people wha have already set up tbeir system and apps and experience lag..
Mind you, this is not a cure for the I/O lag contributed to heavy file downloads.
The steps to do a cold reboot will be found here..
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/11510-various-quick-fixes-links-help.html

xRevilatioNx said:
Do a "cold reboot" and thank this miracle worker later. Works wonders for people wha have already set up tbeir system and apps and experience lag..
Mind you, this is not a cure for the I/O lag contributed to heavy file downloads.
The steps to do a cold reboot will be found here..
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/11510-various-quick-fixes-links-help.html
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Done several cold boots. Also did a couple partition wipes in recovery. A couple factory resets from recovery. Also cleaned cookies, cache, and history from browsers.

soo... should i return and exchange my infinity or are people also experiencing the same thing?

Of course they aren't. The issues that are known for EVERY tablet has already been identified. Time to get your hands on that replacement, unfortunately...

I just got mine today, and when all my apps were being backed into the Infinity (70 apps), I noticed it being laggy too.
Pressing the buttons to switch between Eco Mode or what not, and pressing the Super IPS+ button, it pauses for a second or so before recognizing my finger pressing it.
I returned my TF300T a month ago to wait for this, and that tablet felt a bit better then this.
Also, I love the finish on the back of the tablet, but I've noticed that two lines stick out far more on the back then the rest of the lines.
Anyone experiencing the same stuff too?

It's an Asus thing
I have the original Asus Transformer ( taking delivery of a new Tf700t tomorrow) and I have the same lag. It drives me crazy. Browsers would just hang. I have just installed a new rom update from asus that seems to have fixed the problem. I am going to wait for Jellybean before passing judgement.

For some reason, In system settings, under System, there is no "Software Update" option. It just says: Date & Time, Accessibility, Developer Options, and About Tablet.
But nothing about Software updates. It's on Android version 4.0.3, while I see other Asus tablets (on Antutu benchmark), that are on 4.0.4.
And speaking of Antutu benchmark. My Asus had a less FPS then my HTC Rezound! I was shocked by the numbers. My Rezound was hitting over 58 fps in one test, while the Infinity was barely over 45 fps!
The part that made no sense. When I first tested it, it was on Balance mode, and it scored at 12271. Afterwards, I selected Performance mode, and it scored 11770!
WTF? I thought this was supposed to be the Top of the Line Android tablet, and it's not making a great first impression.
My HTC has a Rom on it, so I have WiFi tether. I tried to see if the tablet would connect to it, and it was connected, but the speeds were so slow that no data was being sent; every webpage wasn't loading, and it just pissed me off.
Also, for some reason, it's not charging past 97%. Is that even normal?

Does your HTC have 1920x1200 pixels to render?
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xMoKax said:
For some reason, In system settings, under System, there is no "Software Update" option. It just says: Date & Time, Accessibility, Developer Options, and About Tablet.
But nothing about Software updates. It's on Android version 4.0.3, while I see other Asus tablets (on Antutu benchmark), that are on 4.0.4.
And speaking of Antutu benchmark. My Asus had a less FPS then my HTC Rezound! I was shocked by the numbers. My Rezound was hitting over 58 fps in one test, while the Infinity was barely over 45 fps!
The part that made no sense. When I first tested it, it was on Balance mode, and it scored at 12271. Afterwards, I selected Performance mode, and it scored 11770!
WTF? I thought this was supposed to be the Top of the Line Android tablet, and it's not making a great first impression.
My HTC has a Rom on it, so I have WiFi tether. I tried to see if the tablet would connect to it, and it was connected, but the speeds were so slow that no data was being sent; every webpage wasn't loading, and it just pissed me off.
Also, for some reason, it's not charging past 97%. Is that even normal?
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I smell butt hurt.
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I smell butt hurt.
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Quick question, How does Chrome perform on your One S?

Google Chrome
I was just wondering and wanting to get a bit of an overview about Chrome on our device. At the moment I'm running a non-Sense ROM and in my experience so far Chrome really lacks speed and fluidness. It takes long to start it up, it's slow bringing up my keyboard and everything just doesn't feel snappy.
Question is, is it me, my phone, or is it slow in general on the HTC One S? How does it perform on your device? Please include what ROM you're using as well.
I would expect Chrome to run like sunshine, since it's Google's product. The stock browser seems a lot snappier, but it lacks the syncing with my Desktop Chrome.

Phantom Pt. II said:
Google Chrome
I was just wondering and wanting to get a bit of an overview about Chrome on our device. At the moment I'm running a non-Sense ROM and in my experience so far Chrome really lacks speed and fluidness. It takes long to start it up, it's slow bringing up my keyboard and everything just doesn't feel snappy.
Question is, is it me, my phone, or is it slow in general on the HTC One S? How does it perform on your device? Please include what ROM you're using as well.
I would expect Chrome to run like sunshine, since it's Google's product. The stock browser seems a lot snappier, but it lacks the syncing with my Desktop Chrome.
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chrome is working fine on my phone, from the stock browser to chrome, i couldnt really tell the difference on speed. im on the stock jb rom