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I just finally dumped Big Red and came over to AT&T (combined contracts with my wife). I'm going from the HTC Incredible and purchased the Sammy Captivate. I was very active back in the Dinc forum, and would consider myself "Advanced" - I did some development, but wasn't yet at the level of ROM Cooking.
I got over here to the Captivate - I'm confused as hell. I've followed my own advice and read forum after forum after forum before posting anything - the Cappy just seems like Greek to me.
Here's what I'm picking up:
1. GPS is spotty, but not for everyone. Mine has always been dead on, but then again I'm not a first-adopter of the Galaxy S. Perhaps it was a batch issue?
2. ROMs seem significantly harder to cook for the Cappy. I see a bunch of leaks from the Froyo build, but it looks half-done at best. Don't get me wrong, I'm running Cognition and I love it for day to day use. I had read a bit online about the lag issues, but I didn't imagine they would be *this* prominent even after rooting and removing bloatware.
That's about it, really. I'm checking back in the forums every day. I'm loving the hardware on this phone - the screen is fantastic, and when the Cappy is fast it's FAST. But I've gotta admit I'm fairly dissapointed thus far with some of the User Experience pieces. The Samsung overlay has some nice attributes (the swiping in Contacts is great, for one), but there are other bits that are wholly frustrating about this phone (WHY would they make the buttons at the bottom time out before the screen, forcing you to touch the screen to get the buttons lit up again??).
OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
I must apologize, this has turned from a general "how do you do" to a vent-fest. I'd love to hear from any experienced and new users alike. Thanks!
hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).
What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.
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What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.
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I haven't had any problems with Wifi and use WPA. I can see all of my networks (which are G, not N).
The button thing is kind of annoying, so I agree with you there. My GPS has been hit or miss, but I bought this phone used, so I'm not sure if it was a first batch model or not.
There's not much in the way of ROMs. There's stock and leaks, then there's Cognition and Eugene's, and that's about it. All of those are based on a leak or stock build, so they'll usually contain the same problems as the stock/leak build.
We're supposed to be getting a CyanogenMOD ROM sometime, or at least be able to port it...but I'm sure they can't do anything until Samsung releases the source for Froyo.
Anoter HTC convert here, but I came from the Pure.
GPS is definitely an issue. Mine improved with the OTA update to JH7. Its still not as accurate at highway speeds as the HTC.
HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.
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OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
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That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.
Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
The lag on the galaxy s phones is the result of samsung using rfs file system - rfs has a much slower input/output read/write than ext* file systems generally found on linux distros. This is the lag that is being refereed to in the lag fixes.
so as long as samsung continues to put out official roms with rfs file system there will always be an opportunity for a "lag fix" with ext2 (i.e. ryanza's OCLF) or ext4 (i.e. voodoo).
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GPS is hit or miss, but on the FroYo leak it has gotten much better, unfortunately Samsung released the phones with brand new hardware and apparently didn't test...
The lag is as mentioned another Samsung fubar along the lines of using an inferior file system.
I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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MikeyMike01 said:
That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.
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I've done a lot of research, and I alluded to that point in my post. Survey the *American* market and empirically you will see that of the slate Android phones, most have the buttons in the order Home, Menu, Back, Search. And I would argue that it has everything to do with Samsung - unless you're implying that someone else designed the layout of the buttons on their device. After all, they are the reason the European variant of the i9000 has three buttons like the X10, correct?
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Funny.
dayv said:
Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
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Thanks, dayv. That's a good explanation and gives me some idea of where to go from here.
As for an update, turns out the WiFi issues were strictly hardware. After putting in a bridge with my FiOS router and still not getting any improvement, I took it back to Best Buy and swapped it out. Connected the second I got home. Unfortunately, the touch buttons were totally borked and I had to do a battery pull three times in 20 minutes because apparently the buttons would "touch themselves when they thought of me." In other words, you could see the buttons flash on and off, feel the haptic go crazy, and all kinds of strange stuff on the screen. Yet another swapout and I'm good to go.
I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.
sdotbrucato said:
I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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I imagine we can also add to this that the Captivate has only been out for not quite 3 months if I recall correctly. So between the newness and people holding their breath for Froyo I could understand people's hesitancy to invest a lot of time and energy in making a soon to be outdated ROM.
came from a tilt2 which is/was? still trying to develop android..it was pretty good but wow i can never go back to windows phone after that mess. freggin love this captivate thou...when it doesnt break lol. ive never had a phone that i seem to get ALL the known issues with and still decide to stick with getting a new one instead. I miss sense somedays but overall i still am willing to stick with a less "bogged down" OS that i can practically do the same with. if i can make the phone do what i need faster then screw the pretty screen gadgets lol
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HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.
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I'm sorry but I to came from the htc aria, awesome little phone. I bought the aria because I thought the sense ui was pretty awesome. After using Cyanogen mods on the aria and playing with other launchers and now playing with tw launcher, sorry but sense ui is crap and for noobs . I got over the whole sense ui about a week of owning the aria and wasn't able to use it after adw and launcher pro.
Sorry had to post it. I just don't feel you can use an androids phone ui to bash another phone. I have only seen a few who use any androids phone stock ui any way and I'm one of them and as basic as it is it still makes sense ui look a babies toy.
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bytemare said:
hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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Not a chance lol the aria is awesome for its size but doesn't come close to the captivate , that's just my imo though. Only problem I have had with captivate is gps and I really don't use gps, so not that big of deal. The aria, like I said awesome for its size, just has to small of processor to do what the captivate can do. Most things lag on the aria games and movies almost un playable. I love my captivate.
I had bought an iphone4 for my wife to replace her old iphone. Well long story short , I turned a "i will not use anything else but iphone ! " the iphone 4 went back two weeks of having it cause of to many problems to we booth own captivates now and shes sold.
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besides the gps.... i am very satisfied. here is why.....
I woke up this morning and opened allshare to stream music from my synology diskstation. Got in the car and loaded up bluetooth to my moto speakerphone/radio transmitter. Put my captivate in my proclipusa mount and Loaded up pandora to stream to my car stereo... Loaded up the navigation for testing purposes and was on my way...
Both worked without issue on the commute in.. rocking to guerrillla radio and limp bizkit. Got some tweets and emails... and the phone took it like... IS THAT ALL YOU GOT!!!!
My blackberry 9700 would have exploded and for sure the "r" key would have flew straight into my forehead... where then people would ask me why i have an R indented in my head... is it for Retard?
I rate the phone 95% out of 100%. If you really have that much to complain about then you will never be happy with any phone.....
p.s. - for people who have captivates that reboot or shutoff, that has to be a defect and you need to get it replaced. My phone has never rebooted or shutoff by itself.
p.s.s. Gps isn't great... but the phone does everything else i need really well.
rant over.
vbhines said:
I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.
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If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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That's an interesting question. The aria costs a lot less than the captivate. As far as hardware goes, the captivate is superior: 16 GB RAM, the screen is awesome, the speaker is better (ringtones sound nicer) and the quality of phone calls, at least for me, is a lot better than the aria. Oh and the camera is LOT better on the captivate. I haven't had issues with the GPS (the aria locked on a little faster, but captivate performs well). The issues with wireless for me are really frustrating, but others don't seem to have an issue (wireless sometimes works, sometimes doesn't even though it's connected, I have no idea why).
Based on my experience, I'd rather have the captivate. It definitely takes more tweaking than the aria but in the 1 week I've had it, I think I got everything worked out. I definitely liked the sense UI and email client on the aria, but I can live with the UI and stuff on the captivate considering how much better the hardware is.
If anyone has any idea about how to fix wireless, I'd really appreciate it.
Yeah I'm not gonna lie, we really don't have much of choice on at&t . To me we only have two choices right now Aria or captivate. If at&t got a htc equivalent to the captivate then I would have a hard choice .
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If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.
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Thanks for the tip! I've never met a ROM that I wouldn't reflash if something else came along. I will try it out later tonight. Do you happen to know if the Twiz mods for custom fonts will flash ok?
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as above,
is it me or everyone that the web browser in Nexus S really loads page at a very slow rate compared to iphones?
im saying this because during rides in underground trains, all the iphones and ipads around me seem to load pages without any hiccup, yet i have problem loading even the google page.
Even when placed side by side, loading times are inferior compared to the iphone safari.
PS: im not creating an iphone vs nexus thread, just asking out of curiosity
On paper, the android browser is faster then iOS', but the nexus s doesn't have video acceleration, so loading flash content or images is pathetically slow and laggy, which is very disappointing for a pure google experience phone, they really screwed this up.
Custom UIs like touchwiz and htc sense do have hardware acceleration, so the browser is blazing fast (really, really fast and definitely out stands the iphone, that's the only thing I miss from my old HTC Desire), but the vanilla android doesn't, at least until ice cream sandwich comes out.
This, or your phone probably had poor coverage in that area. Anyhow, yes, the nexus s browsing experience is lame and google should be ashamed with their device.
Edit: As an alternative, you can use opera mobile (not mini) which is very responsive and smooth, but it tends to render the pages after they are fully loaded, not on the go, so it may seem slower then the stock browser, much slower. On wifi it runs well tho.
Eh you get me wrong, I mean that it slow on loading page not when surfing the page ...
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dplate07 said:
as above,
is it me or everyone that the web browser in Nexus S really loads page at a very slow rate compared to iphones?
im saying this because during rides in underground trains, all the iphones and ipads around me seem to load pages without any hiccup, yet i have problem loading even the google page.
Even when placed side by side, loading times are inferior compared to the iphone safari.
PS: im not creating an iphone vs nexus thread, just asking out of curiosity
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no service underground maybe?
I had this problem too. Not only slow loading pages. Sometimes it not load at all. I had to touch and hold and choose open to load the page.
Its because the kernel combined with unsuitable ROM. After I flashed another rom and kernel. I solved this problem.
And to make sure ur speed internet connection, u can use apps called speedtest.net its free on the market.
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rejanmanis said:
I had this problem too. Not only slow loading pages. Sometimes it not load at all. I had to touch and hold and choose open to load the page.
Its because the kernel combined with unsuitable ROM. After I flashed another rom and kernel. I solved this problem.
And to make sure ur speed internet connection, u can use apps called speedtest.net its free on the market.
Sent from my Nexus S I9020T
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Yea, i have experienced such problems also ! Even when im in outdoor areas, sometimes when i click a link, it won't load... i have to click the link again.
Unsuitable kernel and ROM? But i am using stock...
Is this issue a software or hardware issue?
I just bought one at Walmart yesterday and was going to decide whether or not to give it to my wife or keep it and give her the G2X. Needless to say, I can't do anything with it. After playing with it for 30 minutes it got hotter than any other phone I've ever used and then froze. After a reboot it worked for about 15 minutes and the second I opened up the market app it rebooted itself. I called T-Mobile and they can't do anything until the phone is officially released and Wal-Mart doesn't have anymore in stock since they only got 2 to begin with. All of the other local Wal-Marts didn't get any in. My only option is to return it for my money back which I will be doing tomorrow. In the end, I was lucky enough to get a G2X with no bugs but not lucky enough to get a Sensation with none.
G2X - 1
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Side note: In the 30 minutes I had to play with the Sensation, I already figured out I would have been giving it to my wife. It is not as fast as the G2X and it's clear that Sense 3.0 is bogging it down. The internet browser is also no where near as fast as the G2X. Don't get me wrong, it will be a good upgrade from her MyTouch Slide but it's not a upgrade to the G2X (if you got one without bugs).
I've been using a Sensation for two days now and I have yet to have any bugs. My only complaint is the bluetooth voice dialing doesn't work natively and the internet seems to run a little slower than the G2X. But I have found it is definitely much more stable out of the box than the G2X. I have had the phone running now for 2 days without any issues. When I bought the G2X my phone had already rebooted a few times in that same amount of time.
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I've been using a Sensation for two days now and I have yet to have any bugs. My only complaint is the bluetooth voice dialing doesn't work natively and the internet seems to run a little slower than the G2X. But I have found it is definitely much more stable out of the box than the G2X. I have had the phone running now for 2 days without any issues. When I bought the G2X my phone had already rebooted a few times in that same amount of time.
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Well hopefully the next one I buy is big free. I've been reading over the Sensation forum the past couple of days and it looks like I'm not the only one with major issues. Like I said, I was lucky enough to get a working G2X. Guess you were just lucky enough to get a working Sensation.
Whats your take on the speed of the device? I definitely noticed lag in the UI and it was noticeably slower than the G2X. I didn't get a chance to play any games before mine locked up but I would like to know how it performs in that area. I don't expect the Snapdraggon to perform as well as the Tegra II since it is built off of the old A8 architecture while the Tegra II is built on the new A9 but I would like my wife to be able to play her games with no stutter. Have you played any games on it and if so which ones and how did they perform?
Well for now...I love my g2x....I will get the sensation when its well mature in the scene...the g2x still young...
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Hello, good to knoe man. I have been really happy with my phone.
On a side note, you should probably change the title. Is a little misleading. I actually thought you meant that Sensation was less buggy.
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Well hopefully the next one I buy is big free. I've been reading over the Sensation forum the past couple of days and it looks like I'm not the only one with major issues. Like I said, I was lucky enough to get a working G2X. Guess you were just lucky enough to get a working Sensation.
Whats your take on the speed of the device? I definitely noticed lag in the UI and it was noticeably slower than the G2X. I didn't get a chance to play any games before mine locked up but I would like to know how it performs in that area. I don't expect the Snapdraggon to perform as well as the Tegra II since it is built off of the old A8 architecture while the Tegra II is built on the new A9 but I would like my wife to be able to play her games with no stutter. Have you played any games on it and if so which ones and how did they perform?
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I haven't really seen a lot of major issues being posted over on the Sensation forums. The bug threads that I've seen have only had minor things in it. Anyways, to answer your question I don't notice any lag. What I did notice is that there are a lot more animations on the Sensation than on the G2X. Those animations make the phone feel slower than the G2X. For example when you press the home button, the fade in animation that takes you to the home screen is slower than the quick little effect that happens when you press the home button on the G2X. I changed my animation setting on my Sensation to "some animations" so that I didn't have as much eye candy and had a little bit better speed. I noticed when I set it to "no animations" I didn't see any difference between it and the G2X. I put up a thread with a bit more of an in depth comparison between the two phones. Check it out, perhaps it may be of some help for you.
As for gaming, I've yet to do any real 3d gaming besides Nova (which ran perfectly fine).
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I haven't really seen a lot of major issues being posted over on the Sensation forums. The bug threads that I've seen have only had minor things in it. Anyways, to answer your question I don't notice any lag. What I did notice is that there are a lot more animations on the Sensation than on the G2X. Those animations make the phone feel slower than the G2X. For example when you press the home button, the fade in animation that takes you to the home screen is slower than the quick little effect that happens when you press the home button on the G2X. I changed my animation setting on my Sensation to "some animations" so that I didn't have as much eye candy and had a little bit better speed. I noticed when I set it to "no animations" I didn't see any difference between it and the G2X. I put up a thread with a bit more of an in depth comparison between the two phones. Check it out, perhaps it may be of some help for you.
As for gaming, I've yet to do any real 3d gaming besides Nova (which ran perfectly fine).
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As for the major bugs I have read about in multiple forums, they are as fallows:
Display has a yellowish tint
Rebooting
Freezing
Locking up when using the camera
Getting hot
Wifi and Cell signal dropping when holding the phone in landscape
During some games you get screen tearing
From my 30 minute experience I thought the display looked good. I didn't have the yellowish tint. As for the other bugs, the only one I experienced was the locking up, getting hot and rebooting. I didn't get a chance to use the camera or use the phone in landscape. I will test all of these things when I get it but the signal degradation seems to be pretty major. There a thread dedicated to it on there forums and also a blog entry about it on GSM Arena.
I'm aware of GSM Arena article..they have a thread about it in the Sensation forum...but also in the same thread nobody is really having that issue, and I haven't been able to replicate it either. All in all I think it's safe to say that the G2X definitely has more issues than the Sensation. They may eventually get fixed but as it stands now, it has more issues. In the same two days I've been experimenting with the Sensation, my G2X has reboot itself a few times..and I won't get into the battery life lol.
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As for the major bugs I have read about in multiple forums, they are as fallows:
Display has a yellowish tint
Rebooting
Freezing
Locking up when using the camera
Getting hot
Wifi and Cell signal dropping when holding the phone in landscape
During some games you get screen tearing
From my 30 minute experience I thought the display looked good. I didn't have the yellowish tint. As for the other bugs, the only one I experienced was the locking up, getting hot and rebooting. I didn't get a chance to use the camera or use the phone in landscape. I will test all of these things when I get it but the signal degradation seems to be pretty major. There a thread dedicated to it on there forums and also a blog entry about it on GSM Arena.
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Actually in the Sensation forum multiple people have also stated that they are getting dust particles under their screen. To me that is a really huge problem.
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Actually in the Sensation forum multiple people have also stated that they are getting dust particles under their screen. To me that is a really huge problem.
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I had this happen on 3 of my Nexus Ones. I dunno what the hell HTC is doing, but something isn't right.
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I'm aware of GSM Arena article..they have a thread about it in the Sensation forum...but also in the same thread nobody is really having that issue, and I haven't been able to replicate it either. All in all I think it's safe to say that the G2X definitely has more issues than the Sensation. They may eventually get fixed but as it stands now, it has more issues. In the same two days I've been experimenting with the Sensation, my G2X has reboot itself a few times..and I won't get into the battery life lol.
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I read your comparison thread over in the Sensation forum and thought it was very well written.
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I read your comparison thread over in the Sensation forum and thought it was very well written.
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Thanks
mysterioustko said:
I'm aware of GSM Arena article..they have a thread about it in the Sensation forum...but also in the same thread nobody is really having that issue, and I haven't been able to replicate it either. All in all I think it's safe to say that the G2X definitely has more issues than the Sensation. They may eventually get fixed but as it stands now, it has more issues. In the same two days I've been experimenting with the Sensation, my G2X has reboot itself a few times..and I won't get into the battery life lol.
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I don't know what thread you read but people are definitely experiencing the issue..the sensation looks great but imo it looks to have just as many issues and has yet to be mass released yet...
My gf has the HTC aria from at&t and it has voice search but it doesn't work with voice dialing. If you say "call wife mobile" on her phone, it just does a Google search.
It does know map and text I believe but I think it's just a sense thing.
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player911 said:
My gf has the HTC aria from at&t and it has voice search but it doesn't work with voice dialing. If you say "call wife mobile" on her phone, it just does a Google search.
It does know map and text I believe but I think it's just a sense thing.
LG G2x CM7 2.3.4
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Try this on her phone. It sounds like the same thing. It's stupid that HTC left it out.
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Hello people.
I got my infinity 64gb from amazon on Wednesday. So far, i have mix feelings...
The screen is beautiful, no doubt. But, the lag just disappoints. While loading pages, using stock browser btw, it hangs for a couple of seconds. It is somewhat acceptable, but i get the annoying "not responding message, wait or close app" from android.
I really have mix feelings, thinking i might have a lemon and might exchange it for a new 1.
Anyone having the same experience with their infinity? Getting lots of waits or any hang ups with your infinity?
If anyone thinks this is related to that i//o issues (i really don't exactly know how that affects the tablet besides writing and reading memory cards). Please share your thoughts
For the specs, i would think this is my so long waited ipad killa!!! Or maybe go for the acer 700. Maybe i was expecting too much?
chino145 said:
Hello people.
I got my infinity 64gb from amazon on Wednesday. So far, i have mix feelings...
The screen is beautiful, no doubt. But, the lag just disappoints. While loading pages, using stock browser btw, it hangs for a couple of seconds. It is somewhat acceptable, but i get the annoying "not responding message, wait or close app" from android.
I really have mix feelings, thinking i might have a lemon and might exchange it for a new 1.
Anyone having the same experience with their infinity? Getting lots of waits or any hang ups with your infinity?
If anyone thinks this is related to that i//o issues (i really don't exactly know how that affects the tablet besides writing and reading memory cards). Please share your thoughts
For the specs, i would think this is my so long waited ipad killa!!! Or maybe go for the acer 700. Maybe i was expecting too much?
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I'm having the same issues. I believe many others are having the same issues. I'm sticking with mine and hope Asus fixes us fast.
Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
With Chrome, I got sunspider result of 1400's at balance mode, which is not only faster than the stock browser, but actually the fastest among all mobile when compared to table below.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23153/5
HoushaSen said:
Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
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I have but it not only hangs in the browsers it does in apps also.
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I have but it not only hangs in the browsers it does in apps also.
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Any specific application? I use tablet for ebook reading so I highly rely on those applications, but I noticed previously working fine application (Mantano reader) became much slower to open file above 50MB, and in fact I get "Not responding.." error message very frequently. However, they just released beta version for next coming release. This works like charm. Ultra fast. They did not specifically say improved performance for ICS, quad core etc... but it works... So I wonder there is some component of applications not optimized for ICS. But this is just my guess and no solid logic to prove this as I don't know if current official version of Mantano is ICS optimized or not.
I like android because of flash supprt and flexibility with the os. If not, i would prob gotten an ipad instead. Not than i am a fan of ios anyhow. What bothers me is the fact that i get a smoother experience with my evo 3d than this. Surely when it loads a page, it stalls for a 2 secs or so. With my evo, nothing similar happens. Besides, multitasking is literally dead on the infinity. Isnt androi supposed to be true multitasking?! Like i said, i have mix feelings
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Any specific application? I use tablet for ebook reading so I highly rely on those applications, but I noticed previously working fine application (Mantano reader) became much slower to open file above 50MB, and in fact I get "Not responding.." error message very frequently. However, they just released beta version for next coming release. This works like charm. Ultra fast. They did not specifically say improved performance for ICS, quad core etc... but it works... So I wonder there is some component of applications not optimized for ICS. But this is just my guess and no solid logic to prove this as I don't know if current official version of Mantano is ICS optimized or not.
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Not really. Like I said in another post "erratic". Its an OS problem that will get fixed with updates.
Its a lemon party around here. Heh.
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HoushaSen said:
Have you tried other browsers?
I didn't even bother to use stock and went straight with Chrome, which works pretty good for me. One down side is it has no Flash support. So for this, I installed Dolphin.
With Chrome, I got sunspider result of 1400's at balance mode, which is not only faster than the stock browser, but actually the fastest among all mobile when compared to table below.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23153/5
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Got the same running Chrome in balanced mode (1391). Still a lot compared to Chrome on my laptop (277-329), but looks good on this chart ^^
Boat Browser got 1659, interesting, thought it would be better.
Stock browser scored 1912 ms. Not bad at all.
Opera Mobile = 1443, which is a surprise to me.
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Got the same running Chrome in balanced mode (1391). Still a lot compared to Chrome on my laptop (277-329), but looks good on this chart ^^
Boat Browser got 1659, interesting, thought it would be better.
Stock browser scored 1912 ms. Not bad at all.
Opera Mobile = 1443, which is a surprise for me.
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Effing casuals(jk). I got under 1290 on my sold prime with Firefox.
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Do a "cold reboot" and thank this miracle worker later. Works wonders for people wha have already set up tbeir system and apps and experience lag..
Mind you, this is not a cure for the I/O lag contributed to heavy file downloads.
The steps to do a cold reboot will be found here..
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/11510-various-quick-fixes-links-help.html
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Do a "cold reboot" and thank this miracle worker later. Works wonders for people wha have already set up tbeir system and apps and experience lag..
Mind you, this is not a cure for the I/O lag contributed to heavy file downloads.
The steps to do a cold reboot will be found here..
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/11510-various-quick-fixes-links-help.html
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Done several cold boots. Also did a couple partition wipes in recovery. A couple factory resets from recovery. Also cleaned cookies, cache, and history from browsers.
soo... should i return and exchange my infinity or are people also experiencing the same thing?
Of course they aren't. The issues that are known for EVERY tablet has already been identified. Time to get your hands on that replacement, unfortunately...
I just got mine today, and when all my apps were being backed into the Infinity (70 apps), I noticed it being laggy too.
Pressing the buttons to switch between Eco Mode or what not, and pressing the Super IPS+ button, it pauses for a second or so before recognizing my finger pressing it.
I returned my TF300T a month ago to wait for this, and that tablet felt a bit better then this.
Also, I love the finish on the back of the tablet, but I've noticed that two lines stick out far more on the back then the rest of the lines.
Anyone experiencing the same stuff too?
It's an Asus thing
I have the original Asus Transformer ( taking delivery of a new Tf700t tomorrow) and I have the same lag. It drives me crazy. Browsers would just hang. I have just installed a new rom update from asus that seems to have fixed the problem. I am going to wait for Jellybean before passing judgement.
For some reason, In system settings, under System, there is no "Software Update" option. It just says: Date & Time, Accessibility, Developer Options, and About Tablet.
But nothing about Software updates. It's on Android version 4.0.3, while I see other Asus tablets (on Antutu benchmark), that are on 4.0.4.
And speaking of Antutu benchmark. My Asus had a less FPS then my HTC Rezound! I was shocked by the numbers. My Rezound was hitting over 58 fps in one test, while the Infinity was barely over 45 fps!
The part that made no sense. When I first tested it, it was on Balance mode, and it scored at 12271. Afterwards, I selected Performance mode, and it scored 11770!
WTF? I thought this was supposed to be the Top of the Line Android tablet, and it's not making a great first impression.
My HTC has a Rom on it, so I have WiFi tether. I tried to see if the tablet would connect to it, and it was connected, but the speeds were so slow that no data was being sent; every webpage wasn't loading, and it just pissed me off.
Also, for some reason, it's not charging past 97%. Is that even normal?
Does your HTC have 1920x1200 pixels to render?
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xMoKax said:
For some reason, In system settings, under System, there is no "Software Update" option. It just says: Date & Time, Accessibility, Developer Options, and About Tablet.
But nothing about Software updates. It's on Android version 4.0.3, while I see other Asus tablets (on Antutu benchmark), that are on 4.0.4.
And speaking of Antutu benchmark. My Asus had a less FPS then my HTC Rezound! I was shocked by the numbers. My Rezound was hitting over 58 fps in one test, while the Infinity was barely over 45 fps!
The part that made no sense. When I first tested it, it was on Balance mode, and it scored at 12271. Afterwards, I selected Performance mode, and it scored 11770!
WTF? I thought this was supposed to be the Top of the Line Android tablet, and it's not making a great first impression.
My HTC has a Rom on it, so I have WiFi tether. I tried to see if the tablet would connect to it, and it was connected, but the speeds were so slow that no data was being sent; every webpage wasn't loading, and it just pissed me off.
Also, for some reason, it's not charging past 97%. Is that even normal?
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I smell butt hurt.
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I smell butt hurt.
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I'm sorry I've been a galaxy user for a long time and have never been let down until now. I have had the gs2 gs3 note and note 2. I have loved them all and didn't expect anything less out of the new gs4. Well I guess there is a first time for everything. This phone sucks plain and simple! It suffers from terrible lag when scrolling through the web. The pinch to zoom is terrible and slow. Yea the features are cool but who's ever really going to use them? You would think that maybe with all the new software samsung has introduced they would have taken a little time to give us a better keyboard with an auto correct feature. Even while typing the thread my phone is suffering from terrible lag and just can't keep up with me.
Htc one. I have that as well and I'm trying to decide which to keep. Its smooth as silk and works as it should. I'm trying to persuade myself to keep the galaxy s4 hoping that a patch will be issued and alot of these issues will be fixed. I'm having a hard time doing it though because the htc is really perfect aside from button placement and size.
If you really have been using those devices you mention then you should know that all the issues you say you are experiencing can be easily solved by update or by rooting the device and getting rid of bloat. S4 is a beast hardware wise.
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I'm thinking that when a stable root method is available a custom rom will definitely improve things. The sheer amount of bloatware is ridiculous and is bogging down the performance of the phone. A debloated rom might be the fix.
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I'm thinking that when root is available a custom rom will definitely improve things. The sheer amount of bloatware is ridiculous and is bogging down the performance of the phone. A debloated rom might be the fix.
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Root is already available and especially since there now appears to be a safe way to return to stock (kies or odin) you should now feel safer when manually debloating because fixing a softbrick is just a few clicks away
And to the op...I couldnt agree more about the keyboard...but as far as lag goes...I have yet to see any lag that so many are claiming to have and I havent even disabled or begun to remove any stock apps...so I guess I got lucky with my device
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I came from s2, s3, note, s4 and I love this thing. Root and tibu is your friend. This phone is a beast. Love the feel. The screen. No lag here bro.
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I'm sorry I've been a galaxy user for a long time and have never been let down until now. I have had the gs2 gs3 note and note 2. I have loved them all and didn't expect anything less out of the new gs4. Well I guess there is a first time for everything. This phone sucks plain and simple! It suffers from terrible lag when scrolling through the web. The pinch to zoom is terrible and slow. Yea the features are cool but who's ever really going to use them? You would think that maybe with all the new software samsung has introduced they would have taken a little time to give us a better keyboard with an auto correct feature. Even while typing the thread my phone is suffering from terrible lag and just can't keep up with me.
Htc one. I have that as well and I'm trying to decide which to keep. Its smooth as silk and works as it should. I'm trying to persuade myself to keep the galaxy s4 hoping that a patch will be issued and alot of these issues will be fixed. I'm having a hard time doing it though because the htc is really perfect aside from button placement and size.
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I want to love the S4. Nice big 5" screen, I don't really mind TW, decent camera, size and weight are perfect for me but man the lag is horrendous!
I have rooted and froze 73 apps in titanium yet it still has some lag. It's quite sad actually..
I realize part of the lag is 4.2.2 but good grief!
I am actually thinking about returning it for a Nexus 4 or maybe wait a little and see what the Nexus 5 has to offer..
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If you really have been using those devices you mention then you should know that all the issues you say you are experiencing can be easily solved by update or by rooting the device and getting rid of bloat. S4 is a beast hardware wise.
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I know that an update can fix things. My problem is patience and waiting for that update to be released. Its a real shame that a phone with such amazing specs just can't do what its supposed to do without lag and issues. As far as rooting goes in sure that many people on this forum are familiar with it but I'm not. Why can't the device come out of the box working like it should?!?!!! The htc does work and works well. If not for the. 3" and button layout the gs4 would already be back in the box of the way to att return dept.
The same goes for me being very disappointed. I had the Captivate, S2, dad has S3, wife has a Note 2 and all have been good phones. I love my wife's Note 2 but can't deal with a phone that big. My biggest problem with the S4 is the battery life mine is getting. I can barely get more than an hour screen time. Right now my phone is at 15% with 1:20 screen time that accounts for 40% of the battery after 10 hrs unplugged. I'm tired of constantly tweaking roms, I just want a phone that works all day without me having to install a custom rom.
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I know that an update can fix things. My problem is patience and waiting for that update to be released. Its a real shame that a phone with such amazing specs just can't do what its supposed to do without lag and issues. As far as rooting goes in sure that many people on this forum are familiar with it but I'm not. Why can't the device come out of the box working like it should?!?!!! The htc does work and works well. If not for the. 3" and button layout the gs4 would already be back in the box of the way to att return dept.
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Sad to say it requires any tampering (root, app disabling, or cfw) to get it running smooth. Hopefully a Very soon update will smooth it out without killing battery life. Another thing that's crazy is this phone is clocked .2 higher than the htc one and optimus g pro but still lags like crazy
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Sad to say it requires any tampering (root, app disabling, or cfw) to get it running smooth. Hopefully a Very soon update will smooth it out without killing battery life. Another thing that's crazy is this phone is clocked .2 higher than the htc one and optimus g pro but still lags like crazy
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Agreed. There should be no need for disabling apps/removing bloat or installing custom roms to get this phone working smoothly. Its got the hardware no doubt but something is definitely wrong when a flagship phone with these specs doesn't work smoothly out of the box. HTC seem to have got it right software wise. Its clocked lower with the same processor and is buttery smooth and almost benches as high running at 1.5
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This is honestly the worst phone i had period sooo much lag tomorrow I'm going to exchange for the HTC one
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Is it only the AT&T s3s with lag? or is TMob also experiencing lag?
It's going to be so funny when AT&T & Samsung release a update and this phone (S4) becomes the most smooth Android phone ever... Or better yet when we finally get that bootloader unlock tool released and starting getting clean & optimized versions of the stock ROM.
@damon20r 1 hour screen time?!? I can easily get 6+ hours on full brightness... It's either your battery (faulty) or a rogue app.
Thats why i sold my s4. I immediatly noticed the lag. My htc one is smooth as silk.
wow I haven't noticed any lag - it is super fast compared to my epic 4g (galaxy s I). Maybe some ppl have a defective phone? As for battery life, 1) google talk, make sure you're signed out (big battery killer) and in the pull down menu, choose top right for more choices of what's on/off. I turned off air view/gesture, nfc, smart screen/view etc, etc. all the bloat. Now great life. Still at 29% despite heavy use all day. 11 hrs on battery 63% screen time. Maybe use autoscreeen brightness. Also I turned off facebook notifications too (that helped). The "power saving"option also helps save battery life.
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Is it only the AT&T s3s with lag? or is TMob also experiencing lag?
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Why dont you ask in the at&t s3 forum.
Now how are you guys experiencing this bad lag you keep mentioning. Wish someone would post a video to see the lag. Even with my bloat and touchwiz I didnt notice this lag.
No lag worth mentioning for me neither? I'm happy with it...
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This is honestly the worst phone i had period sooo much lag tomorrow I'm going to exchange for the HTC one
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All fanboy crap aside... The HTC One is MUCH and I mean MUCH smoother than the S4.. It's night and day different!
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It's going to be so funny when AT&T & Samsung release a update and this phone (S4) becomes the most smooth Android phone ever... Or better yet when we finally get that bootloader unlock tool released and starting getting clean & optimized versions of the stock ROM.
@damon20r 1 hour screen time?!? I can easily get 6+ hours on full brightness... It's either your battery (faulty) or a rogue app.
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Come to think of it I can't remember restarting my phone since I got it. SMH. I'll try that and see what happens, LOL.
1 hr screen is something wrong def. Im easily getting 5 hours on this biotch. Im at 15 hours unplugged 2 hours 41 mins screen with 69% battery left.
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