I don't understand the hate for plastic, it's far more durable than metal for the function of a phone. I've actually got the One now, it's waiting to be exchanged for the GS4 but sadly that has been delayed until May now. When using the One I was constantly worried about dropping it, I kept checking for scratched, it just made me paranoid. I even went searching for cases and I realized I hate the people who go on about the design of the phone and then wrap it in an ugly cheap case anyways. I put the frigging phone in my pocket, nothing else there and it gets a scuff some how. I realized I cannot live with the One, it's not fun to use and I'm constantly worried about it getting damaged. The thing that swung me exchanging it though was seeing how you wont be repairing it yourself, it's so poorly designed. I mean in the past if I've dropped a phone, I go to ebay, buy the parts and repair it myself, you cannot do that with the One. On top of that the One gets so hot, it's like one big heat sink, it makes playing games so uncomfortable.
So I've put the One away waiting for it to be exchanged and went back to my Nokia. Plastic is so much nicer, it has more grip, it keeps the heat in one location so you can just not hold it there, it doesn't scuff or scratch like a *****. I've looked at the GS4 teardown and the plastic rim is easy to take off and replace and so is the back cover obviously. I can not worry about dropping it or scratching it or the condition of my battery sitting in a heatsink sandwich like on the One. I can just easily replace all that stuff if I do damage it.
For me plastic is the better material by far and I don't see it as a down side. I'm getting bored of every review saying how the One is better and all they mention is the design. I've got one, it isn't well designed, it isn't even well made, I've got giant gaps between the glued on speaker grills and the plastic on the phone.
I just don't get it, but whatever!
Along the same lines of design complaints, I love how many ppl diss the design saying it looks exactly like the S3 and there isn't anything special about it. So why don't ppl say the same thing about the iphone that has only seen 1 true design change in 6 years? Not hating on Apple, I just don't see what all the fuss is about the S4 design being "dull" when other major phones don't change as drastically either.
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Ttoally agree
I could understand if the aluminum vs plastic debate was made into the subset, lesser point of contention that it is. But multiple reviews, mainly from American websites, have put it front and center as one of the biggest issues and one of the most important if not THE most important distinction between the phones. Like, seriously? Most of these reviews skim over features, barely juggle the cameras, and no real mention of Mobeam. So they insert the classic filler argument to get page views, and no new information is shown, and no real analysis done.
The only thing "cheap" going on here is the reporting. If you're reviewing a unit and you have limited access to the phone and can't do a proper review, just say so. Don't take up paragraphs to explain this "war" that few people really care about whatsoever, and especially don't make up 1/3 the problems with the phone as "it doesn't feel premium"; there's far more concerning issues to list besides that.
And it's not like cases are rare among mainstream buyers: https://www.npd.com/wps/portal/npd/us/news/press-releases/pr_120821/
Custom cases, skins, and other phone accessories make up a multi-billion dollar industry in of itself. The idea that "naked phones" are the standard and everyone should adhere to it is asinine. I would rather put a real kick ass Breaking Bad print on the back cover of my Galaxy S4 then use the generic black mist for instance.
Due to all the hype, I went out the other day to check out the HTC One and I was honestly underwhelmed. Premium feel? I don't think so. Maybe I'm weird but the One actually kind of felt like plastic to me, LOL~ The aluminum isn't even very solid and dense and it felt only a bit more thicker than my can of Rockstar I drink every day. If HTC were gonna do aluminum, they should've at least used higher quality aluminum like the one on the iPhone 5. At least the iPhone 5 does feel a bit premium. I appreciate aluminum for my car's suspension parts but don't care for it on my phone.
Sure the HTC One looks premium but I would feel bad covering up that "premium" look with a case. But if I don't put it in a case, I'll feel even worse when it gets scratched. If any dust gets under you case, its going to slaughter the aluminum finish on the One.
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Because people are dumb.
Most of my previous phones were aluminum and *solid*... That's no indication of durability as screen breaks and dents are still commonplace with metal phones. Removable battery, cooler to hold, lighter, less prone to visible scratches etc.
A vast majority of smartphone users put there phones in hideous cases anyway so the entire *premium feel* argument is fluff.
Bottom line something feeling more dense doesn't means is better quality. Just pure subjective nonsense.
If htc, sony, and apple fanboys dont bash the design, what else they have to bring down samsung? No nothing, samsung is way beyond all of them in rest of the departments.
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I'm of the view that the whole plastic thing just comes down to personal choice.For me the most lacking quality in the the s4 is the abundance of lag
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So are u saying u must choose Toyota instead of BMW so you wouldn't worry about scratches?
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So are u saying u must choose Toyota instead of BMW so you wouldn't worry about scratches?
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Every time someone uses a car metaphor, it's almost always complete rubbish. Aside from the fact that it's the paint you're scratching on the car, even if it were all aluminum, the "fix" doesn't carry over to a phone. You going to use chemical treatment/sanding on your phone to help with those scratches? The alternative is you send it back for a replacement (and warranties normally don't cover tiny scratches on the phone), or cover up the scratches with a case/skin (and then what's the point?).
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If htc, sony, and apple fanboys dont bash the design, what else they have to bring down samsung? No nothing, samsung is way beyond all of them in rest of the departments.
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Honestly no one is discussing the s4 in the one forums. Here all you guys do is Talk about the one. Take a deep breath and enjoy your phone. This isn't a war ffs.
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Honestly no one is discussing the s4 in the one forums. Here all you guys do is Talk about the one. Take a deep breath and enjoy your phone. This isn't a war ffs.
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Thats a lie my friend, when the S4 reviews came out that is all that were being discussed at the One forum.
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It's just way too hard for some of them to accept that in some circles the One is being touted as the better phone.
What the SGS 4 wins at, it's a fractional win. What the One wins at, it's almost a night and day difference. IE: Speaker quality, call quality, audio capturing capability & design. And no amount of crying is going to change that.
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It's just way too hard for some of them to accept that in some circles the One is being touted as the better phone.
What the SGS 4 wins at, it's a fractional win. What the One wins at, it's almost a night and day difference. IE: Speaker quality, call quality, audio capturing capability & design. And no amount of crying is going to change that.
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Removable battery, sd card, tons of more sensors, bigger screen, can be used with gloves and dozens of software features. It goes both ways.
Same could be said about all your audio stuff, it's fractional. Except for the stereo speakers.
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Yeah, HTC is breaking ground with those 2 million units. Samsung's shipping it's next 10 million batch soon I believe, after several carriers sold out of pre-orders. Keep telling yourself the speakers and aluminum design are all you need to have a good phone while the rest of us enjoy the aspects that "don't matter" like camera resolution, sensors, good software features, expandable memory, removable battery, screen size, headphone quality, Mobeam tech, and better hardware all around.
But you can record some really fly videos at the Slipknot concert, so there's that.
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Yeah, HTC is breaking ground with those 2 million units. Samsung's shipping it's next 10 million batch soon I believe, after several carriers sold out of pre-orders. Keep telling yourself the speakers and aluminum design are all you need to have a good phone while the rest of us enjoy the aspects that "don't matter" like camera resolution, sensors, good software features, expandable memory, removable battery, screen size, headphone quality, Mobeam tech, and better hardware all around.
But you can record some really fly videos at the Slipknot concert, so there's that.
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Lol this isn't an armed conflict. I would hate to some of you guys in a real tense situation. Honestly if someone has made their decision do you really think what you just said matters? The reason I didn't go s4 because I have the note 10.1 and I just don't care for it or touchwiz. But I still follow what samsung does because THEY do matter.
Competition is good. And if Samsung put together a product I liked I would buy it.
The fanboyism in all the forums is just comical.
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It's just way too hard for some of them to accept that in some circles the One is being touted as the better phone.
What the SGS 4 wins at, it's a fractional win. What the One wins at, it's almost a night and day difference. IE: Speaker quality, call quality, audio capturing capability & design. And no amount of crying is going to change that.
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There are two reasons why a member comes to a forum
1. He is somewhat interested in the phone of that forum ( I never visited the HTC one v forum for example cause I'm not interested in it)
2. Cause he/she wants to troll ( I wouldn't troll at a One V forum cause it doesn't compare with the S4 for example)
One of these 2 reasons brought you here, either you are secretly in love with the S4 or you're a troll which means you fear the S4.
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Lol this isn't an armed conflict. I would hate to some of you guys in a real tense situation. Honestly if someone has made their decision do you really think what you just said matters? The reason I didn't go s4 because I have the note 10.1 and I just don't care for it or touchwiz. But I still follow what samsung does because THEY do matter.
Competition is good. And if Samsung put together a product I liked I would buy it.
The fanboyism in all the forums is just comical.
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It is. But i m curious to know why you quoted this user post and not the one that got quoted cause he kinda was the fan or troll. After all this is a Samsung forum so obviously most folks here are pro Samsung. By any means if folks want to bash Samsung, do it in your forum ( not you in particular but in general). If you do it here, you can be certain there will be replies.
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Lol this isn't an armed conflict. I would hate to some of you guys in a real tense situation. Honestly if someone has made their decision do you really think what you just said matters? The reason I didn't go s4 because I have the note 10.1 and I just don't care for it or touchwiz. But I still follow what samsung does because THEY do matter.
Competition is good. And if Samsung put together a product I liked I would buy it.
The fanboyism in all the forums is just comical.
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I don't care to change his mind, really. Just pulling up the facts; you can nip at the heel all you want but competition usually implies near-equal standing, and last I checked, there's a 157 billion dollar difference between the two companies, and one is posting poor results this quarter while the other is gaining. You're right, you fanboys are pretty comical.
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There are two reasons why a member comes to a forum
1. He is somewhat interested in the phone of that forum ( I never visited the HTC one v forum for example cause I'm not interested in it)
2. Cause he/she wants to troll ( I wouldn't troll at a One V forum cause it doesn't compare with the S4 for example)
One of these 2 reasons brought you here, either you are secretly in love with the S4 or you're a troll which means you fear the S4.
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It is. But i m curious to know why you quoted this user post and not the one that got quoted cause he kinda was the fan or troll. After all this is a Samsung forum so obviously most folks here are pro Samsung. By any means if folks want to bash Samsung, do it in your forum ( not you in particular but in general). If you do it here, you can be certain there will be replies.
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Dude you were all OVER the one forums. And it's not trolling if people are respectful. And really with all due respect I'll quote who I quote.
I've worked with Samsung devs. I've taught more than a few members how to theme over here. So I've earned my opinion. The fanboyism on the one and the s4 is out of control.
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Dude you were all OVER the one forums. And it's not trolling if people are respectful. And really with all due respect I'll quote who I quote.
I've worked with Samsung devs. I've taught more than a few members how to theme over here. So I've earned my opinion. The fanboyism on the one and the s4 is out of control.
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Yes. You know why? Cause I like the One. Have you seen me bashing the One? No. Everyone that knows me Here knows that I plan to buy it at some point but I happen to prefer the S4.
You can quote whoever you want of course but you don't seem as unbiased as you make it sound, that's my point.
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So the iphone 5 has nothing special over the S3 apple is going to fall behind. I in a year imagine where android will be and apple will be trying to play catch up.
Galaxy S3 still the king of the Hill!!!
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Agreed. S3 ***** slaps it day and night.
On both cheeks too
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The iPhone 5 doesn't have the same power that the S3 has, but the only thing I wish is that the build quality on the S3 was on par. I know the plastic keeps the costs down, but there is something to be said about having a device that is all glass and aluminum.
720p front facing camera sounds sick but I never use video chat so that's useless haha. Aside from that I DO NOT regret buying the s3 at all
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I'm feeling pretty underwhelmed by the announcement...
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The iPhone 5 doesn't have the same power that the S3 has, but the only thing I wish is that the build quality on the S3 was on par. I know the plastic keeps the costs down, but there is something to be said about having a device that is all glass and aluminum.
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Agreed. I had the 4s before my rezound and damn that thing felt solid
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It'll be interesting to see how long it takes for Apple's app base to migrate to the larger screen. Having some of your apps letterboxed is going to take away from the cohesive Apple experience that is so often touted.
i was going to start a thread about the iPhone, the title was going to be "Thank you Apple for making me love my SIII more and more"...
seriously Apple, where's the innovation you talk about.
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720p front facing camera sounds sick but I never use video chat so that's useless haha. Aside from that I DO NOT regret buying the s3 at all
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I believe many devices have HD front camera
I also wasn't too impressed by the keynote speech. I also thought the 720p front facing camera was pretty sick, although it's something I rarely use anyway.
I was amused when they were touting their maps application, as if Google maps on android wasn't doing navigation and points of interests for years now.
I just can not imagine going back to a tiny 4 inch screen now. Basically had that on my original Dinc forever.
They're still playing catchup with our phones, but that doesn't matter: they have an exiting install base which will overwhelmingly upgrade in the short term and think the iPhone 5 is the greatest innovation ever, while their closed environment continues to keep them happy and secure year after year (i.e., it's a positive selling point and an implicit means of control).
I don't see many defections from Apple over this announcement, but then again, I don't see any reasons to go over from Android devices unless you were already in the market for an Apple phone.
- ooofest
Once again behind the curve. Epect even more dumbass lawsuits to catch up
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I think their biggest update was IOS 6 which included tons of features (catch up to S3 features) that not too many people would notice and use them anyway. The only obvious is the front face camera and 4G, but may drag down by small screen.
I'm no fanboy obviously but it is a nice phone. The specs are decent but nothing innnovative and the biggest downside to me was no NFC. It is in fact the future especially with VZW and Isis coming together.
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I'm no fanboy obviously but it is a nice phone. The specs are decent but nothing innnovative and the biggest downside to me was no NFC. It is in fact the future especially with VZW and Isis coming together.
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They tried to compete with NFC by using pass book where it stored a bunch of virtual credit card and I guess the cashier have to use the scanner to scan the code from the phone. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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The iPhone 5 doesn't have the same power that the S3 has, but the only thing I wish is that the build quality on the S3 was on par. I know the plastic keeps the costs down, but there is something to be said about having a device that is all glass and aluminum.
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Using glass/metal doesn't mean build quality. The iPhone 4/4S can't even survive a single drop and is fragile, that's low build quality.
Samsung phones may have plastic but are extremely durable and well built.
I've owned 2 iphones. They lost me with the lies, lawsuits, and pretending to have pioneered technology they didn't. Won't go back
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I've owned 2 iphones. They lost me with the lies, lawsuits, and pretending to have pioneered technology they didn't. Won't go back
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Oh, but LOOK: they have a Map(s-like) application! It's amazing! (Almost replicates Google Maps and Navigation, but) made by Apple so . . . it's brand new and innovative!
Yeah, sometimes it seems that their marketing is for dittoheads, with the same style of living in a soundproof reality.
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i also am not impressed at all.
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Because aluminum denting and glass shattering are good qualities.
I'm typically a fan of Apple products but man was I let down today
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why LG Nexus 4 LACK so many good nice cases,
Lets take for example iPhone 5 even before came out there was like premium leather otter box, etc... very nice sexy cases out there.On the other side, even after a month of launch date Considering volume of sales of LG Nexus 4 it is so strange that there is no nice premium cases yet, there is however silicone covers and plastic snap on cases, which I personally think destroy the nice look of LG Nexus 4.
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Because most case makers think theres no market for it since the phone initially came out with no provider in mind and if its not a flagship of a provider usually theres no commercials or advertising about it. So most of the time the people will know about it are people like us, word of mouth or online advertising. They don't really know the demand for these and it would be their loss and the few companies who do pick up on them will get on in on it. Thats why you see those companies of asks for votes or requests so they can see the demand and how much money they will be making etc... (little did they know people were buying bumpers on ebay for $100)
I would wait a while though, if they do release the phone in more countries it will start picking up. Now with iPhone or the S3 there is a lot because of international audience.
Noreve released their case for the nexus today.
I've had a lot experience with them and they are of extremely good quality, especially the "Exception Selection".
http://www.noreve.com/langue/en/product/LG_Google_Nexus_4_Tradition_leather_case.html
I'm just not sure if I want a flip case.
Because they are dumb, basically. It seems this market is a reactionary one. They don't know the value of being the first to market or predicting success. They just make a case for the next iPhone and whatever android phone is being advertised like crazy. Then everything else afterwards.
If any of those guys had come out with a case first they would likely have gotten a good majority of the sales with barely any competition
It won't sell at the volume of any iPhone. And Google doesn't send out units before launch so case makers have to wait to get a phone then go through the whole process of designing, etc.
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Seido has a page with "Under Development" listed for it.
http://www.seidioonline.com/seidio-LG-Nexus-4-s/8594.htm
All these other companies are too busy jumping on apple's stick. And that's just the honest truth.
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All these other companies are too busy jumping on apple's stick. And that's just the honest truth.
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To be fair, and I'm not even being "genderist" but a large % of iPhone users are girls and they own a large amount of cases. They feel that it's necessary to have a case matching their outfits. iPhones just have a bigger market for accessories such as cases and it is one iconic phone whereas Android has phones coming out every other week.
Case makers are businesses and businesses' primary goal is to maximize their profits. They just don't feel that Nexus devices are as profitable as other phones such as iPhone, Galaxy S3 or Galaxy Note.
Samsung's Galaxy is becoming a very powerful brand. I feel that if Google/LG had a more successful launch with Nexus 4 inventory, case manufacturers would of been more eager to make a case for the phone as phone sales are booming, sadly they're missing the holiday timeframe.
http://ansonalex.com/infographics/android-users-vs-iphone-users-the-demographics/ for proof. This was last years' so a lot of stuff has changed, surprised we haven't one of these for the year of 2012 as I feel that it is a lot different than how it was in 2011.
Case manufacturers make cases only for devices that sell exceptionally well. No matter how Apple map sucks and no matter how each and every Android fanboy think the iPhone 5 sucks, it was guaranteed a big seller even before it was available.
The Nexus 4, on the other hand, is not one such phone. First of all, it is highly unavailable. And even if Google was able to fulfill all the orders placed (and will be placed), still only a fraction of the iPhone number of Nexus 4 would be sold (remember, without huge ad campaign and carrier support).
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All these other companies are too busy jumping on apple's stick. And that's just the honest truth.
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Except they're making cases for plenty of other phones that have come out recently besides the iPhone...
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All these other companies are too busy jumping on apple's stick. And that's just the honest truth.
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Actually the companies jump on whatever stick will make them the most money (which is why there are a million iphone 5 and gs3 cases/docks/etc.) and I don't blame them. The nexus s sold <0.5 million units, the gnex roughly sold 4x that and the n4 is unlikely to match that (supply issues and only being sold through tmo.)
So why would companies make accessories for devices that are going to sell <2M units in their life when they can make accessories for devices that will sell 40M in a year?
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To be fair, and I'm not even being "genderist" but a large % of iPhone users are girls and they own a large amount of cases.
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To be fair, you are.
Because they do for lots of other devices that sell in the same range? It is simple forecasting and ROI.
The problem here is that Google is simply not that good at commerce. And it ripples through the accessories ecosystem.
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Actually the companies jump on whatever stick will make them the most money (which is why there are a million iphone 5 and gs3 cases/docks/etc.) and I don't blame them. The nexus s sold <0.5 million units, the gnex roughly sold 4x that and the n4 is unlikely to match that (supply issues and only being sold through tmo.)
So why would companies make accessories for devices that are going to sell <2M units in their life when they can make accessories for devices that will sell 40M in a year?
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To be fair, you are.
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Not at all. Check the stats on the bottom of my post. Proven fact that girls are more likely to be using I phones. Possibly be sure they have smaller hands or are just on the trend where their friends use I phones so they use it too for face time I message whatever. They are more likely to buy multiple cases in different colors for their different outfits. Us guys just have one case and we let it be.
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Not at all. Check the stats on the bottom of my post. Proven fact that girls are more likely to be using I phones. Possibly be sure they have smaller hands or are just on the trend where their friends use I phones so they use it too for face time I message whatever. They are more likely to buy multiple cases in different colors for their different outfits. Us guys just have one case and we let it be.
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There is one report that says women are more likely to buy an iphone, with no sample size or any other info given by the way, everything else you said (like women owning more cases) is anecdotal.
The female iphone owners I know typically have 1 case whereas all the male android owners I know have multiple cases, myself included, because we usually have a slim case and an armored case (otterbox) depending on what situation we will be in. Of course I would never state my anecdotal evidence as fact.
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There is one report that says women are more likely to buy an iphone, with no sample size or any other info given by the way, everything else you said (like women owning more cases) is anecdotal.
The female iphone owners I know typically have 1 case whereas all the male android owners I know have multiple cases, myself included, because we usually have a slim case and an armored case (otterbox) depending on what situation we will be in. Of course I would never state my anecdotal evidence as fact.
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Depends on where you're from. I know people here have multiple cases and change them based on their outfits as I am from New York City. I personally only have one case, but it definitely helps companies decide whether or not they want to want make a case for that phone. Knowing that people who buy multiple iPhone cases to swap them out helps them in that case.
I'm not even saying Otterboxes or things like that. There are a numerous amount of cases orientated towards females, they buy it for the design.
http://www.barbiecollector.com/shop/accessory/barbie-iphone-case-f5073
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....8.0.97.870.12.12.0...0.0...1ac.1.Mipbzvh7ZjU
... all the youtube results are girls. if you type "android case collectors" "galaxy s3 case collectors "<any other phone> case collectors"
at this point, i strongly believe its common sense that girls are more than likely to have more than ONE iphone case for its design / style. but then again, who am I to say that since this is a "developer" website ... just my observations based on personal experience as a student
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNPWAKAmvgY look how silly this video is. 207K views
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmWXvXPtds 110K views.
back to on point....... basically, higher # of sales on device determines whether or not a company is willing to invest money into producing a case for the phone.
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Depends on where you're from. I know people here have multiple cases and change them based on their outfits as I am from New York City. I personally only have one case, but it definitely helps companies decide whether or not they want to want make a case for that phone. Knowing that people who buy multiple iPhone cases to swap them out helps them in that case.
I'm not even saying Otterboxes or things like that. There are a numerous amount of cases orientated towards females, they buy it for the design.
http://www.barbiecollector.com/shop/accessory/barbie-iphone-case-f5073
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....8.0.97.870.12.12.0...0.0...1ac.1.Mipbzvh7ZjU
... all the youtube results are girls. if you type "android case collectors" "galaxy s3 case collectors "<any other phone> case collectors"
at this point, i strongly believe its common sense that girls are more than likely to have more than ONE iphone case for its design / style. but then again, who am I to say that since this is a "developer" website ... just my observations based on personal experience as a student
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNPWAKAmvgY look how silly this video is. 207K views
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmWXvXPtds 110K views.
back to on point....... basically, higher # of sales on device determines whether or not a company is willing to invest money into producing a case for the phone.
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You are so right with my fiance she has cases based on her outfit. I do have multiple cases but mine are for functionality for the situation I'm in. I would never buy a iPhone though but my fiance did she had a iPhone 3 then a iPhone 4s and now she is using my Galaxy Skyrocket she loves android now that I converted her. She was always asking why I can mod my phone so much and she cant. So I let her use my Skyrocket and she wont give it back. But she is in love with my "sparkly" phone Lol but little does she know she has one under the tree already rooted and unlocked boot loader.
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Depends on where you're from. I know people here have multiple cases and change them based on their outfits as I am from New York City. I personally only have one case, but it definitely helps companies decide whether or not they want to want make a case for that phone. Knowing that people who buy multiple iPhone cases to swap them out helps them in that case.
I'm not even saying Otterboxes or things like that. There are a numerous amount of cases orientated towards females, they buy it for the design.
http://www.barbiecollector.com/shop/accessory/barbie-iphone-case-f5073
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....8.0.97.870.12.12.0...0.0...1ac.1.Mipbzvh7ZjU
... all the youtube results are girls. if you type "android case collectors" "galaxy s3 case collectors "<any other phone> case collectors"
at this point, i strongly believe its common sense that girls are more than likely to have more than ONE iphone case for its design / style. but then again, who am I to say that since this is a "developer" website ... just my observations based on personal experience as a student
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNPWAKAmvgY look how silly this video is. 207K views
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmWXvXPtds 110K views.
back to on point....... basically, higher # of sales on device determines whether or not a company is willing to invest money into producing a case for the phone.
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I'm in LA, the land of plastic people, but that again doesn't mean I would use my personal experiences and present them as fact...that is all.
I know it has been years since the Nexus One was released.. but when it comes to durability ..it is still the best phone..at least in smartphones.
I have dropped my smartphones literally hundreds of times and nothing has ever happened.
However..the biggest thing.. I dropped my Nexus One in the toilet and left it there for like 10 minutes and it still works fine. Everything works exactly the same.
I even wrote a detailed story here about my Nexus ONe:
http://appdigy.com/375/the-power-of-the-nexus-one/
I have nothing against the N1 but just because it is durable does not mean it is the best phone.
In your eyes, yes. But "best" is subjective and it is different for everyone. The N1 is still a nice phone though, because it had incredible specs for its time and right now can be classified as mid to low range whereas other phones of its time would be classified as crap
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I have nothing against the N1 but just because it is durable does not mean it is the best phone.
In your eyes, yes. But "best" is subjective and it is different for everyone. The N1 is still a nice phone though, because it had incredible specs for its time and right now can be classified as mid to low range whereas other phones of its time would be classified as crap
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I have nothing against the N1 but just because it is durable does not mean it is the best phone.
In your eyes, yes. But "best" is subjective and it is different for everyone. The N1 is still a nice phone though, because it had incredible specs for its time and right now can be classified as mid to low range whereas other phones of its time would be classified as crap
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That might be true but I still feel when it comes to durability, it is superior than the phones of today.
If you drop an SG3 or an iPhone 5, it will most likely crack but my Nexus One didn't.
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That might be true but I still feel when it comes to durability, it is superior than the phones of today.
If you drop an SG3 or an iPhone 5, it will most likely crack but my Nexus One didn't.
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Phones tend to get weaker as time goes on. The Nokias back in the day were indestructible
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Phones tend to get weaker as time goes on. The Nokias back in the day were indestructible
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This is true but it seems to be a sad move "forward" in technology in general. Cars used to stronger in the past but now they are just thin sheets of metal...
Phones once idiot proof are now broken with a simple drop.
I don't if the technology that comes out now is weaker but I am sure if companies wanted they could make a phone that would be super strong... they dont, i assume to keep people buying more phones.
Its a sad world.
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This is true but it seems to be a sad move "forward" in technology in general. Cars used to stronger in the past but now they are just thin sheets of metal...
Phones once idiot proof are now broken with a simple drop.
I don't if the technology that comes out now is weaker but I am sure if companies wanted they could make a phone that would be super strong... they dont, i assume to keep people buying more phones.
Its a sad world.
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They don't because they are focused on making sexy thin phones. There are cases available (such as otter box, life proof, and more) if someone wants to make their phone durable. Problem is people who don't think they need a case like that end up dropping their phone and breaking it
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They don't because they are focused on making sexy thin phones. There are cases available (such as otter box, life proof, and more) if someone wants to make their phone durable. Problem is people who don't think they need a case like that end up dropping their phone and breaking it
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I never thought about it like that before...but many of the high quality cases are expensive.
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I never thought about it like that before...but many of the high quality cases are expensive.
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That's why people tend to stay away from those cases... Then they drop their phone and break it :banghead:
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I never thought about it like that before...but many of the high quality cases are expensive.
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Is even $70 really a lot to spend to protect a $700 phone ?
I don't think so, that's only 10% of the device cost - and you can get an Otterbox or whatever for even less than that.
I hardly ever drop my phone, so a rugged case isn't a big concern for me. My last phone that I had before this, I dropped it maybe two times the entire two years I had it, and it looks practically brand-new. I've never dropped a phone in a toilet (... or anything for that matter) and I honestly don't understand how that happens.
My friend has dropped her S3 more times than I think she can count, without a case or anything, and it's still fine. I wouldn't call it indestructible, but it's clearly not as fragile as fine china or anything.
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I've never dropped a phone in a toilet (... or anything for that matter) and I honestly don't understand how that happens.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015290
I remember reading this before I got my N4. He says in one of his posts he doesn't lean over, and his legs are thin :what: lol funny stuff
EDIT: found his original thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009450
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015290
I remember reading this before I got my N4. He says in one of his posts he doesn't lean over, and his legs are thin :what: lol funny stuff
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LOL!
If I got **** not only on a phone, but IN it...
Sure, I'm friends with humans who carry faeces around inside them a better part of their day - but we don't usually trade. I'm not going to keep a phone if I've been 2 Girls 1 Cup intimate with it.
N1 had (and still has) serious Touch/Multitouch issues. Not the best phone, in fact it was a failure (for developers a jewel maybe)
Samsung takes a leaf out of Apple's book & recycles the design of its last flagship device.
Admit it's just a GS3 with a few extra bells & whistles, upgrade the innards check, upgrade the camera check & alter the screen a bit. Bang you have yourself a new flagship, market the hell out of it & watch the sales roll in.
At least HTC made a big change between the One & the One X, especially in design and innovated in the camera rather than just banging more megapixels on it.
That said it still looks a very strong device & I might get one.
Let's go ahead and admit it this is a troll post
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We haven't even officially seen the device yet...all those images/videos could be fake
Either way still destroys about 99% of the phones on the market...
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Will find out soon.
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Let's go ahead and admit it this is a troll post
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No it's not its a comment on Samsung doing exactly the same as people have criticised Apple for doing in the past.
Here is an article from earlier in the week commenting on the design.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...s-lazy-it-could-cripple-the-galaxy-s4-1136996
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No it's not its a comment on Samsung doing exactly the same as people have criticised Apple for doing in the past.
Here is an article from earlier in the week commenting on the design.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...s-lazy-it-could-cripple-the-galaxy-s4-1136996
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OK so every single one of there phones has the same design, a locked os, no battery cover, and sue people 24/7 where did you get this information they were doing all of this?
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OK so every single one of there phones has the same design, a locked os, no battery cover, and sue people 24/7 where did you get this information they were doing all of this?
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What the heck does if it have a battery cover have to do with anything. This is commenting on Samsung recycling the same design again not on whether it has a battery cover or not. The OS is again irrelevant to the principle of reusing the design as for legal action of course they have carried out legal action as have many manufacturers.
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What the heck does if it have a battery cover have to do with anything. This is commenting on Samsung recycling the same design again not on whether it has a battery cover or not. The OS is again irrelevant to the principle of reusing the design as for legal action of course they have carried out legal action as have many manufacturers.
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You would be a perfect iPhone fanboy
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Snapdragon S4 for the US market :\
I'm guessing that means the LTE version and the 3G version is using the Octa core CPU....
Just kills the phone for me right there.
Its funny cause the phone did turn out to be a gs3s
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when apple adds a S after their phones like the iphone 4s it doesnt change anything it only adds a new camera and a new processor
samsung changed everything on the phone believe it or not the s3 was a ugly pos the s4 is a beautiful mini note 2
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when apple adds a S after their phones like the iphone 4s it doesnt change anything it only adds a new camera and a new processor
samsung changed everything on the phone believe it or not the s3 was a ugly pos the s4 is a beautiful mini note 2
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Seriously?
The S4 looks JUST like the S3... which ALSO looks just like a mini Note 2. (I owned both).
I don't think any of them are ugly, but I don't find them sexy either. That is all just personal preference, but to say the S3 is ugly, and the Note 2 and S4 are beautiful is just.. well, silly. Your analysis is ... flawed... to say the least.
The S4 definitely is a bump up from the S3 spec wise, no question, but in the looks department it is mid size between the S3 and Note II, nothing more, nothing less. Only very minor aesthetic change.
See Sig - I have owned most of their recent phones. I'm not speculating, I had the Note, Note II, and S3 as well as others.
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Seriously?
The S4 looks JUST like the S3... which ALSO looks just like a mini Note 2. (I owned both).
I don't think any of them are ugly, but I don't find them sexy either. That is all just personal preference, but to say the S3 is ugly, and the Note 2 and S4 are beautiful is just.. well, silly. Your analysis is ... flawed... to say the least.
The S4 definitely is a bump up from the S3 spec wise, no question, but in the looks department it is mid size between the S3 and Note II, nothing more, nothing less. Only very minor aesthetic change.
See Sig - I have owned most of their recent phones. I'm not speculating, I had the Note, Note II, and S3 as well as others.
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the s3 has a very ugly shape and the gap between the screen and the home button is a big waste of space which ruins the design of it while the s4 is designed a lot like the note 2
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the s3 has a very ugly shape and the gap between the screen and the home button is a big waste of space which ruins the design of it while the s4 is designed a lot like the note 2
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You're nit picking. As a whole the S IV looks exactly like the S III and though the internals are slightly buffed, externally (which is what 95% of the public cares about) it's the same. Apple gets away with it because their chassis is admittedly beautiful, but Samsung is sticking to this flimsy, cheap plastic design which is not a head turner. They dropped the ball with this one and I think HTC will gain ground as they introduced a beautiful phone with the HTC One.
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You're nit picking. As a whole the S IV looks exactly like the S III and though the internals are slightly buffed, externally (which is what 95% of the public cares about) it's the same. Apple gets away with it because their chassis is admittedly beautiful, but Samsung is sticking to this flimsy, cheap plastic design which is not a head turner. They dropped the ball with this one and I think HTC will gain ground as they introduced a beautiful phone with the HTC One.
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Your the one nit picking about the plastic
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Your the one nit picking about the plastic
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Constructive rebuttal. The phone is flimsy, and the quality of material used is sub par. If you're used to such things then it's fine. I've had all of the Galaxy S phones and now own the S3. As an owner it's disheartening to own a phone with such lackluster material in comparison to far more premium build phones that are equally as powerful and cost the same amount. Why don't I just switch? I probably won't and I'll wait for the S V as it'll be a worth while jump in speed and efficiency.
I just have to agree, in my own opinion, the S4 didn't make HUGE design changes. On that, I think most agree. I'd still love to have it. Though, Not as much as I would like to have the HTC One.
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Apple is gonna sue
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I was a little disappointed...but there running out of room to improve on...over all I'm satisfied...if you already have an s3 then there isn't much reason to upgrade to it...but if your just ending your two year then its the perfect phone...
The one looks nice...but its missing the ad card...that is a necessity for me and many others...I could care less about removable battery, I just want my sd slot...I love music too much, streaming lowers the quality and 32gb on board just isn't enough when each song is 10-20mbs...
Anyways...ill admit, I am a Samsung fanboy....I hate HTC - they are a pain to get setup for Roma compared to Samsung devices...unlocking bootloader, s-off...just a pain. I gave HTC a try and I don't think ill ever give them another...
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Plastic IS NOT A SUB-PAR MATERIAL. There are many areas other than cost that Samsung's "plastic" is superior to aluminum in a mobile device application. Hell, car manufacturers figured that out a long time ago.
As long as the screen is more durable than on the S3, I doubt the build is "cheap" except to the uneducated.
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Ya ya ya, every news article doesn't need its own thread...but sorry, this one does just as much as the Google Edition
Here's the link, instead of me giving you the "jist"
http://www.redmondpie.com/images-of-galaxy-s4-active-waterproof-samsung-flagship-smartphone-leaked/
...Wow, and I was about to get the sammy S4 this week too...guess I might wait now once again lol
i am so mad right now. i dont think i can exchange my phone now. good one samsung..release ur flagship that is made from plastic and release another device with the exact same specs, but with waterproofing and better build!
Itll most likely be more expensive. If that wasnt implied lol
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As a Z user, I aswell am a little peeved. But all is well, I guess.
Well it says that the phone is only water "resistant" on GSM Arena, CNET & Sammobile and also that the camera has been downgraded to 8 megapixel.
http://www.gsmarena.com/see_the_samsung_galaxy_s4_active_for_the_first_time-news-6069.php
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57585356-1/shots-leaked-of-galaxy-s4-active/
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/20/samsung-galaxy-s4-active-leaked/
Liquipel has confirmed that they will have waterproofing available for our devices.
$80 isnt bad either.
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Ya ya ya, every news article doesn't need its own thread...but sorry, this one does just as much as the Google Edition
Here's the link, instead of me giving you the "jist"
http://www.redmondpie.com/images-of-galaxy-s4-active-waterproof-samsung-flagship-smartphone-leaked/
...Wow, and I was about to get the sammy S4 this week too...guess I might wait now once again lol
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Yes !! Now my dreams of playing words with friends in the bathtub will finally become reality !!
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liquipel...
Bender B. Rodgriguez said:
Yes !! Now my dreams of playing words with friends in the bathtub will finally become reality !!
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I am pretty sure some other people will have different type of playing in the bathtub with this phone. Could be there dreams too!
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Liquipel has confirmed that they will have waterproofing available for our devices.
$80 isnt bad either.
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Liquipel is a gimmick when used on cell phones. It's borderline being a scam actually.
The technology is impressive and it has merits but these demos of cell phones being dunked are very deceiving, let me explain why...
First off a little history with other gimmicks. Long time ago probably before many around here were kicking they used to demo these "amazing" knives under differing brands (Ginsu probably the most familiar). They would do crazy things with them at the displays in malls, fairs, etc. One was cutting deep grooves in the head of a hammer. People would reach for their wallet in droves to buy after seeing that. I mean a knife that could cut through a hammer? Problem is no one ever really scrutinized and realized the "hammer" had a head made of lead. Lead is very soft and any iron or ss blade will cut it with little dulling compared to say trying that on an Estwing. BTW if you did try this with a real hammer (I did!) you'd find your blade about as ruined as if you took a chainsaw to a steel door.
So what does this have to do with Liquipel and their demos? Simple. They never tell you what the "water" they use really is. I'm willing to bet it's distilled water with a very low conductivity. Others that have this treatment done to their devices are reporting their device stops working after a day or two! Of course, you're using tap water which has far more minerals and therefore much higher conductivity.
It gets even worse! The average spill (beer, soda pop, fruit juice, etc.) not only is much more conductive but can be acidic, leave sticky residues which are often highly hygroscopic (which means they will absorb moisture from the air when it gets humid, becoming active again), and this is just bad to have in your phone!
Toilet swims? Don't even ask!
Saltwater which a device would encounter if offshore fishing or beach going would probably be the worst thing ever that could happen to your phone.
Liquipel can keep the fluid from wetting your treated parts but it cannot keep it OUT of the chassis/enclosure. That's where this is flawed. Once you have fluid penetration (no sick jokes, please!) your device is contaminated and will never be the same. If you want a waterproof or water resistant device you must keep the water out, PERIOD! This requires a completely different strategy starting with the chassis and any physical interface that must connect from the outside to in. Real solutions are never pretty or compact. If you eliminated the headphone jack and USB port relying on wireless charging and bt/wifi for sound, etc. it would be possible. The buttons would be gasketed like waterproof wristwatches, for example. The speaker and mic would be a challenge depending on the water (depth) rating. A meter rating would be no real issue but 100 meters would!
Finally, getting your device treated gives you a false sense of security! There is nothing worse than believing you're OK when in fact you won't be as careful and allowing your device to get dunked!
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Liquipel is a gimmick when used on cell phones. It's borderline being a scam actually.
The technology is impressive and it has merits but these demos of cell phones being dunked are very deceiving, let me explain why...
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thanks, this is informative (ran out of thanks for today, so posting this
Regarding Active - it will have a smaller screen, and is only water resistant - highlighting this as I believe many people think it is also shock/impact proof.
Seidio is developing their Obex for SGS4, I will check it out once it is released, gives water and impact resistance.
http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-obex-case-holster-black-p/bd2-hwssgs4-bk.htm
Although it is a niche product, adds too much bulk, and worsens the mic and speaker quality.
It's always about compromise. TBH if you're the active type that wants to keep your phone working the easiest way is to put it in the equivalent of a storm case. Otter makes one that's in the ATT stores. TBH that's the only way I would carry my phone to the beach. Sand gets into everything and wrecks it - fast!
I have actually seen folks at the beach using a macbook!
Don't worry, it won't be long before connectivity will be a part of life, thought reading, embedded devices, and anti tinfoil hat tech! :laugh:
How nice of that article to included a photoshopped pic above the actual sneak peaks.
The original link should be the OP of this thread:
http://www.gsmarena.com/see_the_sam...he_first_time-news-6069.php?utm_source=feedly
some updates...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxkQavIz9wA&feature=player_embedded
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thanks, this is informative (ran out of thanks for today, so posting this
Regarding Active - it will have a smaller screen, and is only water resistant - highlighting this as I believe many people think it is also shock/impact proof.
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some updates...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxkQavIz9wA&feature=player_embedded
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According to some comments in the video, this phone is also only a dual core S4 Plus MSM8960, which is even further of a disappointment.
well you could always just but a waterproof S4 here https://www.liquipel.com/
or get your current phone treated.
I contacted them, they're still testing the treatment and it's effect on things like air gestures, etc. should be ready soon tho. I'm considering getting this done, but wonder how it effects things like heat venting, etc
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soraxd said:
well you could always just but a waterproof S4 here https://www.liquipel.com/
or get your current phone treated.
I contacted them, they're still testing the treatment and it's effect on things like air gestures, etc. should be ready soon tho. I'm considering getting this done, but wonder how it effects things like heat venting, etc
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You should check the first page of this thread >.>
Solariis said:
You should check the first page of this thread >.>
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You should include post #'s because your post is on the first page of this thread, in my browser.
Phones & computers - we all have options for how many posts we want to view on a single page.
It's post #10 btw.
Worse camera.
It has a worse camera. Only 8 pm. Although, it is much better looking the the stock GS4.
SamMobile has stated that ACTIVE will have OLED in one article and TFT LCD in another??????
Which is it?
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