I know it has been years since the Nexus One was released.. but when it comes to durability ..it is still the best phone..at least in smartphones.
I have dropped my smartphones literally hundreds of times and nothing has ever happened.
However..the biggest thing.. I dropped my Nexus One in the toilet and left it there for like 10 minutes and it still works fine. Everything works exactly the same.
I even wrote a detailed story here about my Nexus ONe:
http://appdigy.com/375/the-power-of-the-nexus-one/
I have nothing against the N1 but just because it is durable does not mean it is the best phone.
In your eyes, yes. But "best" is subjective and it is different for everyone. The N1 is still a nice phone though, because it had incredible specs for its time and right now can be classified as mid to low range whereas other phones of its time would be classified as crap
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I have nothing against the N1 but just because it is durable does not mean it is the best phone.
In your eyes, yes. But "best" is subjective and it is different for everyone. The N1 is still a nice phone though, because it had incredible specs for its time and right now can be classified as mid to low range whereas other phones of its time would be classified as crap
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I have nothing against the N1 but just because it is durable does not mean it is the best phone.
In your eyes, yes. But "best" is subjective and it is different for everyone. The N1 is still a nice phone though, because it had incredible specs for its time and right now can be classified as mid to low range whereas other phones of its time would be classified as crap
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That might be true but I still feel when it comes to durability, it is superior than the phones of today.
If you drop an SG3 or an iPhone 5, it will most likely crack but my Nexus One didn't.
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That might be true but I still feel when it comes to durability, it is superior than the phones of today.
If you drop an SG3 or an iPhone 5, it will most likely crack but my Nexus One didn't.
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Phones tend to get weaker as time goes on. The Nokias back in the day were indestructible
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Phones tend to get weaker as time goes on. The Nokias back in the day were indestructible
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This is true but it seems to be a sad move "forward" in technology in general. Cars used to stronger in the past but now they are just thin sheets of metal...
Phones once idiot proof are now broken with a simple drop.
I don't if the technology that comes out now is weaker but I am sure if companies wanted they could make a phone that would be super strong... they dont, i assume to keep people buying more phones.
Its a sad world.
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This is true but it seems to be a sad move "forward" in technology in general. Cars used to stronger in the past but now they are just thin sheets of metal...
Phones once idiot proof are now broken with a simple drop.
I don't if the technology that comes out now is weaker but I am sure if companies wanted they could make a phone that would be super strong... they dont, i assume to keep people buying more phones.
Its a sad world.
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They don't because they are focused on making sexy thin phones. There are cases available (such as otter box, life proof, and more) if someone wants to make their phone durable. Problem is people who don't think they need a case like that end up dropping their phone and breaking it
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They don't because they are focused on making sexy thin phones. There are cases available (such as otter box, life proof, and more) if someone wants to make their phone durable. Problem is people who don't think they need a case like that end up dropping their phone and breaking it
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I never thought about it like that before...but many of the high quality cases are expensive.
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I never thought about it like that before...but many of the high quality cases are expensive.
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That's why people tend to stay away from those cases... Then they drop their phone and break it :banghead:
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I never thought about it like that before...but many of the high quality cases are expensive.
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Is even $70 really a lot to spend to protect a $700 phone ?
I don't think so, that's only 10% of the device cost - and you can get an Otterbox or whatever for even less than that.
I hardly ever drop my phone, so a rugged case isn't a big concern for me. My last phone that I had before this, I dropped it maybe two times the entire two years I had it, and it looks practically brand-new. I've never dropped a phone in a toilet (... or anything for that matter) and I honestly don't understand how that happens.
My friend has dropped her S3 more times than I think she can count, without a case or anything, and it's still fine. I wouldn't call it indestructible, but it's clearly not as fragile as fine china or anything.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015290
I remember reading this before I got my N4. He says in one of his posts he doesn't lean over, and his legs are thin :what: lol funny stuff
EDIT: found his original thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009450
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015290
I remember reading this before I got my N4. He says in one of his posts he doesn't lean over, and his legs are thin :what: lol funny stuff
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LOL!
If I got **** not only on a phone, but IN it...
Sure, I'm friends with humans who carry faeces around inside them a better part of their day - but we don't usually trade. I'm not going to keep a phone if I've been 2 Girls 1 Cup intimate with it.
N1 had (and still has) serious Touch/Multitouch issues. Not the best phone, in fact it was a failure (for developers a jewel maybe)
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...build the Nexus S like they built the Omnia 7?
The build quality on my Omnia 7 is so high compared to my Nexus S, metal casing, no creeky plastic to be found etc... So this is proof that Samsung can make seriously good quality stuff, so why all the plastic???
Omnia 7 outside with the insides of the Nexus s = WIN.
If your Nexus S is creaking you should return it. They don't normally do that.
^ This.
Compared to the Epic. The build quality of the Nexus S 4G is a vast improvement. Now that was bad all plastic wobbly keyboard bad quality build.
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metals heavier tho?
Maybe Google didn't want metal? I think people sometimes forget that Google and Samsung designed the Nexus S together, and that the Nexus S is Google's vision of an ideal phone.
I think Google wanted something sleek, light, and sexy. Not boxy and heavy. But thats only my opinion.
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The omnia only feels slightly heavier. Its just that my Nexus feels like a toy compared to the omnia which is built like a tank.
Dont get me wrong, I love the design of the Nexus, its just that I can see it smashing into pieces if I drop it, but the omnia feels like it could survive an air strike!
The volume and power buttons also worry me with the Nexus, they feel more sturdy on the omnia, much more.
The omnia just has a more high end feel in the hand, Nexus is still the better phone tho.
If you guys get a chance to have a look at an omnia 7 up close, I am sure you will agree that the Nexus feels like the poor relation (even tho its not). Little things like a cover for the usb hole, little clip to release the battery cover etc... all make the omnia feel much more high end than my Nexus.
I prefer plastic to metal, so long as it's good plastic.
The creeky plastic sound he is talking about is from the plastic battery cover the actual built quality phone.
Samsung focus is now on actual hardware/thickness/weight
The build quality is much better than my plastic vibrant i owned
I only went with HTC prior to my vibrant
IMO HTC focuses on build more than hardware from my experience they seem to cut corners when hardware is involved ..its like pulling teeth to make them budge on hardware quality and upgrades i would guess to reduce cost since they invest so much in the build quality IDK
I remember my NS lousy speaker, camera, multitouch and Bluetooth range was a joke.
Samsung came out with galaxy s then HTC finally budged on "quality" hardware IMO they still cut corners i dont trust HTC anymore
2 me this phone sucks eitherway. I dunno. It lags ridiculously and fcs all the time. Stock of course..
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2 me this phone sucks eitherway. I dunno. It lags ridiculously and fcs all the time. Stock of course..
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Surely you're not talking about the NS4G.. If you are, you're talking crazy talk or have a defective phone.
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Surely you're not talking about the NS4G.. If you are, you're talking crazy talk or have a defective phone.
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I agree. I have absolutely zero problems with my NS4G. I recommend it to everyone looking for a new smartphone.
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The NS had numerous bugs when it came out. I would only really characterize it as stable once the 2.3.3 patch came out. I wouldn't characterize 2.3.4 as a bad patch, but I think 2.3.3 had the fewest problems of any NS stock ROM to date. 2.3.4 is still a lot better than pre-2.3.3, though.
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could be a defective phone but yea im having freezing and lagging issues constantly.
some need a batt pull
whether i uses ADW or Stock Launcher i just have trouble...
Could just be a dodgy app. get rid off stuff 1 at a time, see if it helps. Software wise I have no issue, even my GPS is working now.
got the NS4G on Friday, and stock is faster than anything I ran on my rooted EVO. As far as build quality I do feel like the EVO feels more sturdy but so far I am loving my NS4G
I definitely would prefer metal over plastic, but it'd be hard to pull off the NS's sleek look with metal. Plus, I'm not sure how metal would affect the NFC capabilities. T
That being said, while the shape of the phone is perfect IMO, the plastic feelings is meh, which is why I got an Incipio Feather for it. For the matte feeling and to avoid scratches, rather than for the sake of an actual case. Now holding it without the case just feels wrong
OP, if you are rooted, I would go and fix perms in recovery. If that does'nt work, you have other issues. Mine is running flawlessly. Granted I am running stock/rooted. And... Knock on wood.
FOR the love of god!!! seriously. the NS4G isn't anything different from the normal nexus S.only thing it has that the NS doesn't.is a different radio chip that supports 4G(that is a bit of a BS cuz its not true 4G)
so stop saying NS4G cuz its BS.
you dont see me saying NS limited edition do you?(yes i have the limited edition)
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I agree. I have absolutely zero problems with my NS4G. I recommend it to everyone looking for a new smartphone.
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^ This.
Compared to the Epic. The build quality of the Nexus S 4G is a vast improvement. Now that was bad all plastic wobbly keyboard bad quality build.
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FOR the love of god!!! seriously. the NS4G isn't anything different from the normal nexus S.only thing it has that the NS doesn't.is a different radio chip that supports 4G(that is a bit of a BS cuz its not true 4G)
so stop saying NS4G cuz its BS.
you dont see me saying NS limited edition do you?(yes i have the limited edition)
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was your comment even necessary tho??
were proud you spent extra money on a limited version of a phone that act the same way the NS and NS4G does
you should call yourself a winner
$300 for a battery door. No thanks.
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I don't understand the hate for plastic, it's far more durable than metal for the function of a phone. I've actually got the One now, it's waiting to be exchanged for the GS4 but sadly that has been delayed until May now. When using the One I was constantly worried about dropping it, I kept checking for scratched, it just made me paranoid. I even went searching for cases and I realized I hate the people who go on about the design of the phone and then wrap it in an ugly cheap case anyways. I put the frigging phone in my pocket, nothing else there and it gets a scuff some how. I realized I cannot live with the One, it's not fun to use and I'm constantly worried about it getting damaged. The thing that swung me exchanging it though was seeing how you wont be repairing it yourself, it's so poorly designed. I mean in the past if I've dropped a phone, I go to ebay, buy the parts and repair it myself, you cannot do that with the One. On top of that the One gets so hot, it's like one big heat sink, it makes playing games so uncomfortable.
So I've put the One away waiting for it to be exchanged and went back to my Nokia. Plastic is so much nicer, it has more grip, it keeps the heat in one location so you can just not hold it there, it doesn't scuff or scratch like a *****. I've looked at the GS4 teardown and the plastic rim is easy to take off and replace and so is the back cover obviously. I can not worry about dropping it or scratching it or the condition of my battery sitting in a heatsink sandwich like on the One. I can just easily replace all that stuff if I do damage it.
For me plastic is the better material by far and I don't see it as a down side. I'm getting bored of every review saying how the One is better and all they mention is the design. I've got one, it isn't well designed, it isn't even well made, I've got giant gaps between the glued on speaker grills and the plastic on the phone.
I just don't get it, but whatever!
Along the same lines of design complaints, I love how many ppl diss the design saying it looks exactly like the S3 and there isn't anything special about it. So why don't ppl say the same thing about the iphone that has only seen 1 true design change in 6 years? Not hating on Apple, I just don't see what all the fuss is about the S4 design being "dull" when other major phones don't change as drastically either.
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Ttoally agree
I could understand if the aluminum vs plastic debate was made into the subset, lesser point of contention that it is. But multiple reviews, mainly from American websites, have put it front and center as one of the biggest issues and one of the most important if not THE most important distinction between the phones. Like, seriously? Most of these reviews skim over features, barely juggle the cameras, and no real mention of Mobeam. So they insert the classic filler argument to get page views, and no new information is shown, and no real analysis done.
The only thing "cheap" going on here is the reporting. If you're reviewing a unit and you have limited access to the phone and can't do a proper review, just say so. Don't take up paragraphs to explain this "war" that few people really care about whatsoever, and especially don't make up 1/3 the problems with the phone as "it doesn't feel premium"; there's far more concerning issues to list besides that.
And it's not like cases are rare among mainstream buyers: https://www.npd.com/wps/portal/npd/us/news/press-releases/pr_120821/
Custom cases, skins, and other phone accessories make up a multi-billion dollar industry in of itself. The idea that "naked phones" are the standard and everyone should adhere to it is asinine. I would rather put a real kick ass Breaking Bad print on the back cover of my Galaxy S4 then use the generic black mist for instance.
Due to all the hype, I went out the other day to check out the HTC One and I was honestly underwhelmed. Premium feel? I don't think so. Maybe I'm weird but the One actually kind of felt like plastic to me, LOL~ The aluminum isn't even very solid and dense and it felt only a bit more thicker than my can of Rockstar I drink every day. If HTC were gonna do aluminum, they should've at least used higher quality aluminum like the one on the iPhone 5. At least the iPhone 5 does feel a bit premium. I appreciate aluminum for my car's suspension parts but don't care for it on my phone.
Sure the HTC One looks premium but I would feel bad covering up that "premium" look with a case. But if I don't put it in a case, I'll feel even worse when it gets scratched. If any dust gets under you case, its going to slaughter the aluminum finish on the One.
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Because people are dumb.
Most of my previous phones were aluminum and *solid*... That's no indication of durability as screen breaks and dents are still commonplace with metal phones. Removable battery, cooler to hold, lighter, less prone to visible scratches etc.
A vast majority of smartphone users put there phones in hideous cases anyway so the entire *premium feel* argument is fluff.
Bottom line something feeling more dense doesn't means is better quality. Just pure subjective nonsense.
If htc, sony, and apple fanboys dont bash the design, what else they have to bring down samsung? No nothing, samsung is way beyond all of them in rest of the departments.
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I'm of the view that the whole plastic thing just comes down to personal choice.For me the most lacking quality in the the s4 is the abundance of lag
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So are u saying u must choose Toyota instead of BMW so you wouldn't worry about scratches?
wednesday13 said:
So are u saying u must choose Toyota instead of BMW so you wouldn't worry about scratches?
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Every time someone uses a car metaphor, it's almost always complete rubbish. Aside from the fact that it's the paint you're scratching on the car, even if it were all aluminum, the "fix" doesn't carry over to a phone. You going to use chemical treatment/sanding on your phone to help with those scratches? The alternative is you send it back for a replacement (and warranties normally don't cover tiny scratches on the phone), or cover up the scratches with a case/skin (and then what's the point?).
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If htc, sony, and apple fanboys dont bash the design, what else they have to bring down samsung? No nothing, samsung is way beyond all of them in rest of the departments.
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Honestly no one is discussing the s4 in the one forums. Here all you guys do is Talk about the one. Take a deep breath and enjoy your phone. This isn't a war ffs.
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Honestly no one is discussing the s4 in the one forums. Here all you guys do is Talk about the one. Take a deep breath and enjoy your phone. This isn't a war ffs.
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Thats a lie my friend, when the S4 reviews came out that is all that were being discussed at the One forum.
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So are u saying u must choose Toyota instead of BMW so you wouldn't worry about scratches?
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It's just way too hard for some of them to accept that in some circles the One is being touted as the better phone.
What the SGS 4 wins at, it's a fractional win. What the One wins at, it's almost a night and day difference. IE: Speaker quality, call quality, audio capturing capability & design. And no amount of crying is going to change that.
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It's just way too hard for some of them to accept that in some circles the One is being touted as the better phone.
What the SGS 4 wins at, it's a fractional win. What the One wins at, it's almost a night and day difference. IE: Speaker quality, call quality, audio capturing capability & design. And no amount of crying is going to change that.
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Removable battery, sd card, tons of more sensors, bigger screen, can be used with gloves and dozens of software features. It goes both ways.
Same could be said about all your audio stuff, it's fractional. Except for the stereo speakers.
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Yeah, HTC is breaking ground with those 2 million units. Samsung's shipping it's next 10 million batch soon I believe, after several carriers sold out of pre-orders. Keep telling yourself the speakers and aluminum design are all you need to have a good phone while the rest of us enjoy the aspects that "don't matter" like camera resolution, sensors, good software features, expandable memory, removable battery, screen size, headphone quality, Mobeam tech, and better hardware all around.
But you can record some really fly videos at the Slipknot concert, so there's that.
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Yeah, HTC is breaking ground with those 2 million units. Samsung's shipping it's next 10 million batch soon I believe, after several carriers sold out of pre-orders. Keep telling yourself the speakers and aluminum design are all you need to have a good phone while the rest of us enjoy the aspects that "don't matter" like camera resolution, sensors, good software features, expandable memory, removable battery, screen size, headphone quality, Mobeam tech, and better hardware all around.
But you can record some really fly videos at the Slipknot concert, so there's that.
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Lol this isn't an armed conflict. I would hate to some of you guys in a real tense situation. Honestly if someone has made their decision do you really think what you just said matters? The reason I didn't go s4 because I have the note 10.1 and I just don't care for it or touchwiz. But I still follow what samsung does because THEY do matter.
Competition is good. And if Samsung put together a product I liked I would buy it.
The fanboyism in all the forums is just comical.
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It's just way too hard for some of them to accept that in some circles the One is being touted as the better phone.
What the SGS 4 wins at, it's a fractional win. What the One wins at, it's almost a night and day difference. IE: Speaker quality, call quality, audio capturing capability & design. And no amount of crying is going to change that.
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There are two reasons why a member comes to a forum
1. He is somewhat interested in the phone of that forum ( I never visited the HTC one v forum for example cause I'm not interested in it)
2. Cause he/she wants to troll ( I wouldn't troll at a One V forum cause it doesn't compare with the S4 for example)
One of these 2 reasons brought you here, either you are secretly in love with the S4 or you're a troll which means you fear the S4.
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Lol this isn't an armed conflict. I would hate to some of you guys in a real tense situation. Honestly if someone has made their decision do you really think what you just said matters? The reason I didn't go s4 because I have the note 10.1 and I just don't care for it or touchwiz. But I still follow what samsung does because THEY do matter.
Competition is good. And if Samsung put together a product I liked I would buy it.
The fanboyism in all the forums is just comical.
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It is. But i m curious to know why you quoted this user post and not the one that got quoted cause he kinda was the fan or troll. After all this is a Samsung forum so obviously most folks here are pro Samsung. By any means if folks want to bash Samsung, do it in your forum ( not you in particular but in general). If you do it here, you can be certain there will be replies.
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Lol this isn't an armed conflict. I would hate to some of you guys in a real tense situation. Honestly if someone has made their decision do you really think what you just said matters? The reason I didn't go s4 because I have the note 10.1 and I just don't care for it or touchwiz. But I still follow what samsung does because THEY do matter.
Competition is good. And if Samsung put together a product I liked I would buy it.
The fanboyism in all the forums is just comical.
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I don't care to change his mind, really. Just pulling up the facts; you can nip at the heel all you want but competition usually implies near-equal standing, and last I checked, there's a 157 billion dollar difference between the two companies, and one is posting poor results this quarter while the other is gaining. You're right, you fanboys are pretty comical.
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There are two reasons why a member comes to a forum
1. He is somewhat interested in the phone of that forum ( I never visited the HTC one v forum for example cause I'm not interested in it)
2. Cause he/she wants to troll ( I wouldn't troll at a One V forum cause it doesn't compare with the S4 for example)
One of these 2 reasons brought you here, either you are secretly in love with the S4 or you're a troll which means you fear the S4.
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It is. But i m curious to know why you quoted this user post and not the one that got quoted cause he kinda was the fan or troll. After all this is a Samsung forum so obviously most folks here are pro Samsung. By any means if folks want to bash Samsung, do it in your forum ( not you in particular but in general). If you do it here, you can be certain there will be replies.
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Dude you were all OVER the one forums. And it's not trolling if people are respectful. And really with all due respect I'll quote who I quote.
I've worked with Samsung devs. I've taught more than a few members how to theme over here. So I've earned my opinion. The fanboyism on the one and the s4 is out of control.
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Dude you were all OVER the one forums. And it's not trolling if people are respectful. And really with all due respect I'll quote who I quote.
I've worked with Samsung devs. I've taught more than a few members how to theme over here. So I've earned my opinion. The fanboyism on the one and the s4 is out of control.
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Yes. You know why? Cause I like the One. Have you seen me bashing the One? No. Everyone that knows me Here knows that I plan to buy it at some point but I happen to prefer the S4.
You can quote whoever you want of course but you don't seem as unbiased as you make it sound, that's my point.
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Ya ya ya, every news article doesn't need its own thread...but sorry, this one does just as much as the Google Edition
Here's the link, instead of me giving you the "jist"
http://www.redmondpie.com/images-of-galaxy-s4-active-waterproof-samsung-flagship-smartphone-leaked/
...Wow, and I was about to get the sammy S4 this week too...guess I might wait now once again lol
i am so mad right now. i dont think i can exchange my phone now. good one samsung..release ur flagship that is made from plastic and release another device with the exact same specs, but with waterproofing and better build!
Itll most likely be more expensive. If that wasnt implied lol
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As a Z user, I aswell am a little peeved. But all is well, I guess.
Well it says that the phone is only water "resistant" on GSM Arena, CNET & Sammobile and also that the camera has been downgraded to 8 megapixel.
http://www.gsmarena.com/see_the_samsung_galaxy_s4_active_for_the_first_time-news-6069.php
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57585356-1/shots-leaked-of-galaxy-s4-active/
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/20/samsung-galaxy-s4-active-leaked/
Liquipel has confirmed that they will have waterproofing available for our devices.
$80 isnt bad either.
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Ya ya ya, every news article doesn't need its own thread...but sorry, this one does just as much as the Google Edition
Here's the link, instead of me giving you the "jist"
http://www.redmondpie.com/images-of-galaxy-s4-active-waterproof-samsung-flagship-smartphone-leaked/
...Wow, and I was about to get the sammy S4 this week too...guess I might wait now once again lol
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Yes !! Now my dreams of playing words with friends in the bathtub will finally become reality !!
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liquipel...
Bender B. Rodgriguez said:
Yes !! Now my dreams of playing words with friends in the bathtub will finally become reality !!
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I am pretty sure some other people will have different type of playing in the bathtub with this phone. Could be there dreams too!
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Liquipel has confirmed that they will have waterproofing available for our devices.
$80 isnt bad either.
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Liquipel is a gimmick when used on cell phones. It's borderline being a scam actually.
The technology is impressive and it has merits but these demos of cell phones being dunked are very deceiving, let me explain why...
First off a little history with other gimmicks. Long time ago probably before many around here were kicking they used to demo these "amazing" knives under differing brands (Ginsu probably the most familiar). They would do crazy things with them at the displays in malls, fairs, etc. One was cutting deep grooves in the head of a hammer. People would reach for their wallet in droves to buy after seeing that. I mean a knife that could cut through a hammer? Problem is no one ever really scrutinized and realized the "hammer" had a head made of lead. Lead is very soft and any iron or ss blade will cut it with little dulling compared to say trying that on an Estwing. BTW if you did try this with a real hammer (I did!) you'd find your blade about as ruined as if you took a chainsaw to a steel door.
So what does this have to do with Liquipel and their demos? Simple. They never tell you what the "water" they use really is. I'm willing to bet it's distilled water with a very low conductivity. Others that have this treatment done to their devices are reporting their device stops working after a day or two! Of course, you're using tap water which has far more minerals and therefore much higher conductivity.
It gets even worse! The average spill (beer, soda pop, fruit juice, etc.) not only is much more conductive but can be acidic, leave sticky residues which are often highly hygroscopic (which means they will absorb moisture from the air when it gets humid, becoming active again), and this is just bad to have in your phone!
Toilet swims? Don't even ask!
Saltwater which a device would encounter if offshore fishing or beach going would probably be the worst thing ever that could happen to your phone.
Liquipel can keep the fluid from wetting your treated parts but it cannot keep it OUT of the chassis/enclosure. That's where this is flawed. Once you have fluid penetration (no sick jokes, please!) your device is contaminated and will never be the same. If you want a waterproof or water resistant device you must keep the water out, PERIOD! This requires a completely different strategy starting with the chassis and any physical interface that must connect from the outside to in. Real solutions are never pretty or compact. If you eliminated the headphone jack and USB port relying on wireless charging and bt/wifi for sound, etc. it would be possible. The buttons would be gasketed like waterproof wristwatches, for example. The speaker and mic would be a challenge depending on the water (depth) rating. A meter rating would be no real issue but 100 meters would!
Finally, getting your device treated gives you a false sense of security! There is nothing worse than believing you're OK when in fact you won't be as careful and allowing your device to get dunked!
cpufrost said:
Liquipel is a gimmick when used on cell phones. It's borderline being a scam actually.
The technology is impressive and it has merits but these demos of cell phones being dunked are very deceiving, let me explain why...
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thanks, this is informative (ran out of thanks for today, so posting this
Regarding Active - it will have a smaller screen, and is only water resistant - highlighting this as I believe many people think it is also shock/impact proof.
Seidio is developing their Obex for SGS4, I will check it out once it is released, gives water and impact resistance.
http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-obex-case-holster-black-p/bd2-hwssgs4-bk.htm
Although it is a niche product, adds too much bulk, and worsens the mic and speaker quality.
It's always about compromise. TBH if you're the active type that wants to keep your phone working the easiest way is to put it in the equivalent of a storm case. Otter makes one that's in the ATT stores. TBH that's the only way I would carry my phone to the beach. Sand gets into everything and wrecks it - fast!
I have actually seen folks at the beach using a macbook!
Don't worry, it won't be long before connectivity will be a part of life, thought reading, embedded devices, and anti tinfoil hat tech! :laugh:
How nice of that article to included a photoshopped pic above the actual sneak peaks.
The original link should be the OP of this thread:
http://www.gsmarena.com/see_the_sam...he_first_time-news-6069.php?utm_source=feedly
some updates...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxkQavIz9wA&feature=player_embedded
kreoXDA said:
thanks, this is informative (ran out of thanks for today, so posting this
Regarding Active - it will have a smaller screen, and is only water resistant - highlighting this as I believe many people think it is also shock/impact proof.
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EpicMango said:
some updates...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxkQavIz9wA&feature=player_embedded
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According to some comments in the video, this phone is also only a dual core S4 Plus MSM8960, which is even further of a disappointment.
well you could always just but a waterproof S4 here https://www.liquipel.com/
or get your current phone treated.
I contacted them, they're still testing the treatment and it's effect on things like air gestures, etc. should be ready soon tho. I'm considering getting this done, but wonder how it effects things like heat venting, etc
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soraxd said:
well you could always just but a waterproof S4 here https://www.liquipel.com/
or get your current phone treated.
I contacted them, they're still testing the treatment and it's effect on things like air gestures, etc. should be ready soon tho. I'm considering getting this done, but wonder how it effects things like heat venting, etc
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You should check the first page of this thread >.>
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You should check the first page of this thread >.>
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You should include post #'s because your post is on the first page of this thread, in my browser.
Phones & computers - we all have options for how many posts we want to view on a single page.
It's post #10 btw.
Worse camera.
It has a worse camera. Only 8 pm. Although, it is much better looking the the stock GS4.
SamMobile has stated that ACTIVE will have OLED in one article and TFT LCD in another??????
Which is it?
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I always put and screen protector and a dual layer case on my phones
Idea is its the 99% mint when its 2 years later, and thus and good phone to sell or to pass onto and family member who does not need cutting edge tech
so when I see people in the pub/bar/work etc
put their phone face down on a table, say with salt on it and when they get a notification the slide it face down toward the edge of the table to get it over the salt
and they ***** that its not scratch proof when it starts looking bad.
you all know these people, they have a 1 month old S4/HTC One/iP5 and it looks 3 years old.
makes me want to take it off them and give them a 10 year old Nokia brick cause its all they deserve.
anyone else have this gripe ?
No one else ?
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It usually doesn't bother me unless they say it's the phone's fault. Then I'll defend the phone. As long as they realize how they are treating the phone I couldn't care less. It's their money and phone so they can do what they want. So... option 3?
I find you don't always need a screen protector. I never use them and never get scratches. However my friend always manages to get scratches on his top of the line screens. I know he's clumsy but I don't get what things he must be doing to scratch gorilla glass 3 :-/
Well, their money, their phone, the decide what to do with it.
I know what you mean though, and regarding my own device, I always have a cover and a screen protector on it. It does add a little bulk and it almost hides the original design of the device, but I'm willing to sacrifice that in order to protect my (expensive) device. It also means that I can be a little les gentle with it than I otherwise would, since the cover will absorb most of the bumps. I don't slide it over salt though
I don't care enough about people to care what they do with their phones. It's not my phone they're ruining, and the only one whose money is wasted is their. I just laugh at them.
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I wan't to cry and than kill people who treat mobile devices, PS's, laptops like thay paid it 5$...I have seen all sorts of things (I'm servicing tech).
Why that bothers me? Because, people treat gedgets like baby treath her toy, and when thay broke it, thay panick and get angry.
I live with one persion like that...It's hard to watch, every day, believe me
Why do you care what other people do with there stuff?
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Why do you care what other people do with there stuff?
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Its a general gripe against people abusing nice gadgets and moaning when they are broken and scratched to death.
cirian75 said:
Its a general gripe against people abusing nice gadgets and moaning when they are broken and scratched to death.
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Well if they moan when they break then it is annoying.
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Its a general gripe against people abusing nice gadgets and moaning when they are broken and scratched to death.
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Still not as bad as seeing a blonde 45 year old woman crawl along the motorway at 80kph in a brand new Porche, only for her to later spend half an hour attempting to park it in a spot three cars wide. And fail.
That's far more painful to watch.
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ShadowLea said:
Still not as bad as seeing a blonde 45 year old woman crawl along the motorway at 80kph in a brand new Porche, only for her to later spend half an hour attempting to park it in a spot three cars wide. And fail.
That's far more painful to watch.
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Just epic
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some_kid6 said:
It usually doesn't bother me unless they say it's the phone's fault. Then I'll defend the phone. As long as they realize how they are treating the phone I couldn't care less. It's their money and phone so they can do what they want. So... option 3?
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I am right there with you. I agree 100%
Meh. I dislike screen protectors as they always slightly detract from the vividness of colors. I do use case now but I've never had an issue keeping phones in good condition with no case or screen protector while putting them in an empty pocket.
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Ehh, i don't really have any gripes about people and their phones. Like, the rest I agree that it's their money and if they're stupid enough to not take good care of it, then they can spend more on getting a new one. Yay for the economy.
I take care of my phone and if someone asks me how come my phone looks so great compared to theirs, I say "hmm I don't know. I try to take care of my phone".
cirian75 said:
I always put and screen protector and a dual layer case on my phones
Idea is its the 99% mint when its 2 years later, and thus and good phone to sell or to pass onto and family member who does not need cutting edge tech
so when I see people in the pub/bar/work etc
put their phone face down on a table, say with salt on it and when they get a notification the slide it face down toward the edge of the table to get it over the salt
and they ***** that its not scratch proof when it starts looking bad.
you all know these people, they have a 1 month old S4/HTC One/iP5 and it looks 3 years old.
makes me want to take it off them and give them a 10 year old Nokia brick cause its all they deserve.
anyone else have this gripe ?
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Agreed. My uncle did that with his work issued iPhone 4s. Plus he never cleaned the screen. His phone was always dirty!
2 weeks ago he told me he was getting the new iPhone. I told him to demand a case and luckily he got an otterbox defender...
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jfriend33 said:
Agreed. My uncle did that with his work issued iPhone 4s. Plus he never cleaned the screen. His phone was always dirty!
2 weeks ago he told me he was getting the new iPhone. I told him to demand a case and luckily he got an otterbox defender...
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Our company now issues the Griffin Survivor cases to people with works issued iPhones who work in the warehouse.
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Our company now issues the Griffin Survivor cases to people with works issued iPhones who work in the warehouse.
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The thing that really confuses me is how the phone operates. Employees only pay $10 a month for the phone. But the entire phone is locked down. You can't install any applications. The only thing you can do is use the web browser, send and receive email, text messaging, and take pictures.
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our company, and its a fortune 500 does not lock down the iPhones.
It's not my place to tell others how they should spend their money or treat their property, but I don't get why so many people will spend hundreds of dollars on a fragile piece of electronics and not protect it with so much as a screen protector or TPU case, let alone something like an Otterbox or Incipio. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and a few bucks in protection can save a hundred or two in a new screen or insurance replacement.
Just curious to see how the nexus 5 has done now that it's been out for awhile. I bought a moto x a while back and it's nice and all but I've got the itch to get something else and is hard to pass up the value of the nexus 5. I owned the nexus 4 prior to the x and I loved it (also loved the amount of Dev support). So I guess as the title asks... Would you buy it all over again? Any problems you've encountered in the time you've spent with the device? I want to ask about battery life but I know that's pretty subjective and also completely user dependent so I guess that's only a major concern if anyone has seen drastic problems.
Best device I've owned! Very developmental on XDA! Even popular on eBay!
I've used an iPhone 4, 5 and 5s...
I've used an SI, SII and SIII...
Nothing beats this.
The customisability and knowing that I get updates before 99.99% of the rest of the world always makes me feel good .
I love how stock everything is compared to Samsung's "crapwiz".
Battery life is amazing and it feels like a premium device... Behaves like one and... Is one!
Sure it comes with minor defects (all Nexus 5's do), but the only regret I have is not buying the 32GB version.
I miss having expandable storage, just because I like having space (have never needed to make space... Never will either , just a weird need of mine).
Android is the future... Open-Source = Endless possibilities.
I'll never want anything else!
Do you mind elaborating on the minor defects? Its good to hear someone isn't unhappy about the battery life.
The battery life is the biggest complaint for me, seems way Underpowered
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I love this phone and did buy it again after going swimming with my first one LOL.
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I sold mine, got an S5, and now I have a nexus 5 again.
Worth it because I got it in one of those eBay deals at $380 32gb, also the first one had loose volume buttons and this one is perfect.
10/10 would buy again and again.
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I'd definitely purchase the N5 again. Usually I go from phone to phone but the N5 is the first phone that I've kept for so long. I've owned this phone since February and to me that's a long time to own a phone compared to what I usually do (buy/trade for every phone that comes out).
With this phone I haven't felt jealous of my girlfriends Galaxy S5 or of the G3, or even the M8. When I had the N4 I felt a bit like I was missing something but the N5 definitely does the job.
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I'd definitely purchase the N5 again. Usually I go from phone to phone but the N5 is the first phone that I've kept for so long. I've owned this phone since February and to me that's a long time to own a phone compared to what I usually do (buy/trade for every phone that comes out).
With this phone I haven't felt jealous of my girlfriends Galaxy S5 or of the G3, or even the M8. When I had the N4 I felt a bit like I was missing something but the N5 definitely does the job.
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I think the M8 is the only thing that could sway me. It's just sooo much more expensive.
No doubt.
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I think the M8 is the only thing that could sway me. It's just sooo much more expensive.
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The m8 is definitely a premium phone at a premium price and I would of definitely jumped at it but decided not to for 2 reasons. I don't understand the 4 megapixel rear and 5 megapixel front shooter concept. I also dislike how tall the phone is. I think the bezels could of been a bit more slim but whatever.
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OuncE718 said:
The m8 is definitely a premium phone at a premium price and I would of definitely jumped at it but decided not to for 2 reasons. I don't understand the 4 megapixel rear and 5 megapixel front shooter concept. I also dislike how tall the phone is. I think the bezels could of been a bit more slim but whatever.
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Well, "megapixels" just specifies the amount of pixels in the taken pictures, doesn't necessarily define the actual quality. My Xperia Arc S (released 2011 lol) has an 8mp camera and it obviously takes worse pictures than my Nexus 5. I played around with an M8 before and the picture quality is actually pretty good.
If I could go back in time and buy one again I would. I wouldn't buy another one now though
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If I could go back in time and buy one again I would. I wouldn't buy another one now though
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Is this purely because its not "technically" up to date hardware-wise anymore, or because of a problem/experience with the device? Too close to the release of another nexus device perhaps?
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Is this purely because its not "technically" up to date hardware-wise anymore, or because of a problem/experience with the device? Too close to the release of another nexus device perhaps?
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Yes exactly. If it was a problem / experience, when I went back in time, I wouldn't buy it.... but I said I would
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Yes exactly. If it was a problem / experience, when I went back in time, I wouldn't buy it.... but I said I would
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Lol sorry, just wanted to be clear... Its age somewhat makes me want to move onto something else. Some other the new CPUs "seem" to have better power management in a lower power state. Plus the M8s build / feel-in-hand-quality are reeeeaaally tempting but of course the price reflects that. Buying off-contract makes that hard to stomach. The update cycle seems like a toss up- HTC seems to be better lately about updates and the nexus 5 is quite a ways into its 18mo update life cycle.
I would definitely buy it all over again. You can do pretty much anything you want with the phone; Unlocking the bootloader or rooting the phone is the easiest process compared to every other phone I've had. I've had an HTC Wildfire S (not great but it was the first device I rooted .. pita), an iPhone (which wasn't so bad, but it lacked the customization i wanted), a Galaxy S4 (a great phone if you can put up with Touchwiz and slow updates and etc. Of course you can get the Dev edition if you feel like paying an extra 300-400 dollars for a better battery and a removable sd card compared to the Nexus 5, which isn't worth it), a Moto X (no complaints other than it felt too small), and now a Nexus 5 (best phone ever).
To be completely honest, I would buy it three times over just because I don't like having what everyone else has. Everyone I see with a smartphone either has an iPhone or a Galaxy. I've never really had anyone ask me about my phone, but I've never seen anyone else in my area with a Nexus 5. I'm sure someone has one, but I've not seen one yet
EDIT: Oh yeah and getting the updates first with no bs. Of course that doesn't really matter to me because I run Paranoid Android, but just the fact that we get that is awesome.
Yeah the updates are the icing on the cake. Ease of use (as far as gaining root) is also a REALLY big deal for me. Took me FOREVER to finally build up the courage to root my nexus 4 when I had it. Im not your average end user, but I'm not the MOST tech savvy person on the planet that's for sure. The process is so simple to me now but I have nothing to compare it to (Samsung HTC or other devices)
I'm not quite sure. The HTC One M8 and Galaxy S5 each have their draws to me...
Galaxy S5:
Waterproof
WiFi Calling (I'm on T-Mobile)
VoLTE
HTC One M8:
Aluminum build
Audio quality (both speakers and headphone output)
WiFi Calling
My biggest complaint about the phone is the audio quality... The speaker is actually not terrible but the headphone output is very poor. Even my old Galaxy Nexus sounds better with my headphones. If I were buying it today, I'd probably get the M8. But the lack of an easy root would be a pain, primarily for tethering.
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Well, "megapixels" just specifies the amount of pixels in the taken pictures, doesn't necessarily define the actual quality. My Xperia Arc S (released 2011 lol) has an 8mp camera and it obviously takes worse pictures than my Nexus 5. I played around with an M8 before and the picture quality is actually pretty good.
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I am very aware of what megapixels bring to the table, but what happens when you want to blow up that tiny 4 megapixel picture and print it on a larger scale for display?
HTC downgraded the pixels because they claimed most people only take pics to upload to social media sites such as Facebook, Twitter, etc. I believe they are right about what majority use the camera for but what about those like myself that require higher resolution?
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