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Am I crazy? I want to exchange for a Nexus One...

Captivate is a bigger, better-spec phone. And it's new! I just had it for a little bit over a month.
But I am thinking about exchanging it for a Nexus one... a used N1... Am I crazy?
My reasons...
1. Nexus one is beautiful! Whenever I look at my phone, I can't stop thinking it as a thinner and bigger Blackberry storm (which I don't like). It's just not as sexy as the other phone in the market.
2. Better support. Already on 2.2. Stock OS. No dealing with Samsung anymore. No stupid waiting anymore...
I am kinda serious. I actually look it up on craigslist and try to see if there is anything...

mwxiao said:
Captivate is a bigger, better-spec phone. And it's new! I just had it for a little bit over a month.
But I am thinking about exchanging it for a Nexus one... a used N1... Am I crazy?
My reasons...
1. Nexus one is beautiful! Whenever I look at my phone, I can't stop thinking it as a thinner and bigger Blackberry storm (which I don't like). It's just not as sexy as the other phone in the market.
2. Better support. Already on 2.2. Stock OS. No dealing with Samsung anymore. No stupid waiting anymore...
I am kinda serious. I actually look it up on craigslist and try to see if there is anything...
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From where? T-Mo? Ebay? Google isn't selling them anymore.

terrigan said:
From where? T-Mo? Ebay? Google isn't selling them anymore.
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He did say used. Inb4damove
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Well if he can find one, more power to him. And he can rock Cyanogenmod at least.

My friend has a Nexus One, and it's a great phone, but I wouldn't trade my Captivate for it. Our screens are nicer, our GPU is better, and I haven't had any issues with GPS. Just wished we had an optical track pad (don't think the trackball would match our phone). Both phones are great. If you really can't stand the BB Storm look, you're not gonna go wrong with the Nexus One.

I mean both are great phones and the luxury of first updates is nice and it does look fun in the nexus forum lol
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Short answer: Yes, you are crazy.
Long answer: Nothing against the Nexus One, I do like it, but I would never trade a captivate for it. Better processor, better screen, better multitouch, and I actually think the phone looks nice; several people have commented that they think it is sexiest phone ever and they want one (talking about Captivate in this sentence). I do not care much Samsung's support either, but I can wait for froyo.

You are pretty crazy, be a little patient for 2.2 + gps fix.
The epic is out, the fascinate is out tomorrow, and this phone is better in all ways.
Summary:
Galaxy s family dev support/share (captivate,vibrant,fascinate,epic)
Better screen, gpu/proccesor, and speed!
Captivate is the sexiest variant imo (not a fugly blackberry storm)
did I mention stock JH2 + sre = about 1900 quadrant w/o lagfix 0,o
can you imagine 2.2 (optimizations, all usage of ram, and the NEW lagfix that will make the whole phone ex2/4!?)
Yeah it'll be extreeeeeeemely fast

i wouldn't exchange my captivate for an n1, but i wouldn't mind owning one on the side to tinker with...

I have never understood why people get so hung up on what the hell their phone 'looks' like. Is it more important that someone sees you using a phone that looks pretty or the fact that you have a phone that does what you want and has the powerful hardware underneath to back it up? I really wish someone would explain it to me, lol!

Personally, have had the Nexus One and the Captivate. The screen (due to thinner glass layer) is sooooo much better on the SGS its not funny.
Never liked the trackball on the Nexus. I hated the power button which had a mind of its own so I would use No Lock from the market, which would get activated in my pocket by the trackball (lol)).
The SGS does have a better processor (that always helps I suppose). Froyo out of the gate is fantastic but how bad will you feel if the update comes along the day you change over?
Go with whatever you want as you ultimately will

ukulele_ninja said:
I have never understood why people get so hung up on what the hell their phone 'looks' like. Is it more important that someone sees you using a phone that looks pretty or the fact that you have a phone that does what you want and has the powerful hardware underneath to back it up? I really wish someone would explain it to me, lol!
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Well, it's because the "powerful hardware underneath (it)" is pretty much the same. All the high-end smartphones have quite similar specs. They are all more than capable to "back it up".
Besides, this is the tech world. "Powerful hardware" is always a relative term. Your powerful phone might be out in just a couple of months.
But the design could be very different. It's the thing you have to look at every day for the next 18 months.
Hope it explains to you.

Google ... another mess???

I was really excited when I heard the rumours about the nexus S along with 2.3.
Now it's been released I am extremely disappointed. It is no different from the Samsung galaxy S, which in my opinion was not a good device to start with, with it's cheap plastic design, lag problems and GPS issues etc. They even dropped the SD card slot which was the final nail in the coffin for me. Didnt implement hspa+ and dropped the bluetooth 3.0.
So for now i'll be sticking to my HTC desire with a custom 2.3 rom when it becomes available.
I suppose 2.3 comes with some welcomed features but we will have to wait till honeycomb to see the full UI update i guess.
What are your thoughts? Will the nexus S be your next device?
Let me know what you think.

I don't know but HTC is also full of problems too, i hope people realize that HTC uses cheap crap into their phones, the nexus one's awful touch screen, tiny speakers, dust under the screen, power button problems. I don't understand why people praise HTC so much i mean their warranty isn't stellar, having to send your phone for 3 weeks isn't very appealing.
Galaxy S to start with is already a better phone than the nexus one, the GPS works and everything works in the vibrant.
Your comment seems like from just another misinformed user.

dhiral.v said:
What are your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that people who complain about Google not releasing the phone of their dreams have missed the point of the Nexus S

I think:
No SD card= no problem, It's a phone after all guys, if you need music I would get an iPod, I use Pandora or groove shark anyways...I can't even fill my 8Gb card as it is!
Plastic Build= This is not a problem for me either because it's googles phone, i bet it will feel solid after all and I like the classy black gloss look so im biased anyways...
No HSPA+ = I don;t think many people are actually getting up to the 7mb anyways, but in the near future I think T mobile will be updating it to a whopping 21Mb so this is a bit upsetting but I only get edge at my house anyways so I'm okay with this too
This is the ONLY fully supported GOOGLE PHONE as of now remember. The nexus one is slowly dying
That's why I will have mine on the 16th!

Not sure why so many people complain about the Galaxy S line of phones. I have the Fascinate and I am not getting lag, the plastic case is plenty durable, my GPS also works fine.

tekkitan said:
Not sure why so many people complain about the Galaxy S line of phones. I have the Fascinate and I am not getting lag, the plastic case is plenty durable, my GPS also works fine.
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EXACTLY i held a fascinate and it felt so solid! I just don't understand it....and HSPA+? You can still get up to 7.2 MB, but that isn't good enough? I mean that flies on my Nexus one already! I dont need any more speed.

I think you should read the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867112

Why, I think Google ****ed up.....having Best Buy Launch it

irishrally said:
I think you should read the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867112
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Love it
It's amazing to me how Google could come out with "the best android phone to date" (Endgadget's verdict) and yet people still complain

slowz3r said:
Why, I think Google ****ed up.....having Best Buy Launch it
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would you have perferred WalMart?
lets keep it real, GOOGLE missed on the N1 because you couldnt walk into a national retailer, touch it, feel it, try it.
Best Buy Mobile is one of the best places to get a smartphone if not the best, they certainly have the most and best prices. rebates anyone? any retailer is going to have idiots who dont know what theyre talking about...trust me it would be worst in a WalMart, Shack, or Target for example.

greenstuffs said:
I don't know but HTC is also full of problems too, i hope people realize that HTC uses cheap crap into their phones, the nexus one's awful touch screen, tiny speakers, dust under the screen, power button problems. I don't understand why people praise HTC so much i mean their warranty isn't stellar, having to send your phone for 3 weeks isn't very appealing.
Galaxy S to start with is already a better phone than the nexus one, the GPS works and everything works in the vibrant.
Your comment seems like from just another misinformed user.
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I'm not praising HTC at all. I don't agree that HTC uses cheap crap in their phones. HTC's design and build quality is one of the best in the industry. I do agree no phone is perfect, Some HTC's do have problems like the lack of a good quality speaker and the multi-touch issues on the N1. However the new HTC line up looks promising such as the G2/desire z and desire HD etc.
When I was playing on my friends galaxy S I did notice the lag issue and GPS problems. To me the actual build quality seemed cheap. However I will say, great processor and internal hardware, with that gorgeous AMOLED screen. That's just my experience of the device.
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My thoughts are that people who complain about Google not releasing the phone of their dreams have missed the point of the Nexus S
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I think you might be missing the point I am trying to make.
I wasn't expecting the phone of my dreams, far from it. My point is that the specs are almost identical to that of the galaxy S. With exception to the NFC and gyro of course.
The reason why expandable memory is a deal breaker for me, amongst other things, is the fact they are removing a feature, I know for some people this will be fine, but it reminds me of the iphone and how apple removes basic features, in their closed system.
The nexus S could have been great, but it was rushed for release just for the Christmas season.
Above all that here in the UK its going to cost a whopping £550 on launch day!
I think the nexus S will be fine for most, but there's nothing revolutionary about it.

The last I heard about a "revolutionary" phone was from steve job's mouth. Just sayin. I don't think google is saying this is a revolutionary device. Nexus named phone just means its Google's baby.
Some people just have too much expectation.
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I don't agree on making a general comment like HTC rocks and Samsung sucks or vice versa.In gadgets world, you have to take each product and review it as it is. About build quality , I have a cheap Samsung slide phone and it has been taking some awful falls for a while, on hard floors and streets and although it's fully made of plastic, it amazed me how it's still holding up with just scratches and it's performing just like the first day I got it. There is no one device that can fit all people, everyone has something to look for in his phone. For me, NS fits me the most now. You might have some other specifications that you are looking for too, so this might not be your phone.

Couple of key points for me...
Not realy '****ed' up per se, just dropped the ball on a couple of points:
NO HSPA+= No purchase for me, my next phone has to have it (currently with HD2)
No HD video recording. WTF!? I'm sure someone will unleash it in a custom ROM or hack, but off the bat, just plain doopid!
I was almost there until I found out those 2 points. I'd rather get a MyTouch 4G.
Cyph

google probably said "screw u htc for trying to make it harder to root"
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Madcypher said:
NO HSPA+= No purchase for me, my next phone has to have it (currently with HD2)
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What do you think you're going to do with speeds above 7mbps?

No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.

j.bruha said:
What do you think you're going to do with speeds above 7mbps?
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ever heard of tethering?

donniestarko said:
No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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Ever heard of trolling?

donniestarko said:
No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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My point exactly, why remove features??? And wasn't the fact that android phones have expandable storage, differentiated it from the iphone...

[Q] Give me your long term review of the Nexus S!

Greetings XDA folks! My Nexus One is being passed to my girlfriend, as she broke her Huawei Ideos, so now I'm looking at the Nexus S. I'm based in Taiwan, so I only will get the Super Clear LCD version. Really would like to hear XDA thoughts on this phone and how it has treated them over the course of their ownership...
- Hardware/software issues?
- How it holds up without a case - scratches/wear/tear?
My main concern is reliability in general. I prefer sticking to the stock Android experience and I'm okay with rooting/3rd party ROMs if they're reliable; so if you guys have other phone suggestions please feel free to plug them in! Much appreciated!

24bear said:
Greetings XDA folks! My Nexus One is being passed to my girlfriend, as she broke her Huawei Ideos, so now I'm looking at the Nexus S. I'm based in Taiwan, so I only will get the Super Clear LCD version. Really would like to hear XDA thoughts on this phone and how it has treated them over the course of their ownership...
- Hardware/software issues?
- How it holds up without a case - scratches/wear/tear?
My main concern is reliability in general. I prefer sticking to the stock Android experience and I'm okay with rooting/3rd party ROMs if they're reliable; so if you guys have other phone suggestions please feel free to plug them in! Much appreciated!
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No complaints, have had the phone since the US release. But if you are in Taiwan, would you like to wait for a galaxy S II or maybe the original galaxy s? The original galaxy s is very rich in roms and performs quite well.
The screen for the nexus is NOT gorilla glass, so I have a screen protector on at all times, the back is very easily scratchable. If you are concern about keeping your phone in mint condition, I would suggest that you get a case or a replacement back cover. Only thing about the back covers though is that they have the NFC in it and so it can be limted or hard to find. Or otherwise get the one without NFC and "cripple" your phone.
Have had both the galaxy S and they nexus s, and I switch between both as my daily phone. If you got any questions, just ask me I will try to answer as best as I can. I wish I could get a new phone too but they wife will kill me

Hey suomaf, I would love to have the SGII, but as of now they have not given a release date here in Taiwan and I really don't want to fork more than 600 USD/415 EUR for import. I looked at the Galaxy S too, but hesitant about its GPS - whereas the Nexus S seemed to address that issue from other reviews I've read; or did they address this issue on a particular version that I'm not aware of? Thanks for your input, it's much appreciated!

Software wise I think its great. Also great if you love flashing ROMs.
I agree that the backcover scratches easily. A lot of cases will even scratch it, I found out the hard way.
Putting on a case protects it but adds bulk. Especially if you are used to using the Nexus One naked. I may give the Incipio Feather case a try next.
Also, you'll probably miss the notification LED. You can get BLN, but it isn't quite the same.
Another thing I miss is the desktop and car dock.
All and all, I think it's a pretty solid device. Just the ideal device for me is a hybid of the Nexus One/S
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Hey DumbUglyDragon... interesting name... so it sounds like the Nexus S body needs a good amount of protection from visual scuffs. If I remembered correctly, the Nexus S doesn't come with a pouch like the Nexus One, right? I prefer naked phone with pouch, so any pouch options any of you Nexus S owners can suggest (if any)? Thanks!

24bear said:
Hey DumbUglyDragon... interesting name... so it sounds like the Nexus S body needs a good amount of protection from visual scuffs. If I remembered correctly, the Nexus S doesn't come with a pouch like the Nexus One, right? I prefer naked phone with pouch, so any pouch options any of you Nexus S owners can suggest (if any)? Thanks!
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I used the pouch that came with my old myTouch 3G (HTC Magic) for a while. It was basically a sunglass pouch. Kept it protected from scratches, but a bit cumbersome to have to open the pouch to pull out the phone every time I wanted to use it. But it is nothing like the ballistic nylon pouch the Nexus One came with

I love my Nexus S so much. Got it in late December; it's had to go in for repair once since then- it would go unresponsive if left asleep for more than a couple hours for some reason. Got fixed and returned by Geek Squad in about ten days. Other than that, it's been all good times. I can't tell you much on your second question; I've had an Invisible Shield and Amzer silicone case on it almost from day one. My mom's seems to be holding up pretty well without a case (she's only had hers for a month). As long as you don't drop the thing, it should be alright without one. I wouldn't trust not having a screen protector on it for any real length of time, though; especially if you aren't the super careful type.

I came from a 'dumb' sony erricson phone, to the Nexus S.
At first i was actually scared to take it out with me (being quite expensive and all), but i buoght a flip case for it so that part was sorted lol.
Definately buy some sort of protection for it though, otherwise it will scratch up.
In all honesty when i first got this phone i was not impressed (first smart phone), but now that ive had it for a few months, i find it simply amazing.
I am running the NS Collab ROM which is based off CM7 with the usual tweaks etc
Basically , you won't be dissapointed!

Only problems I've had with Nexus S have been the poor Google Skymap performance ... it jumps around everyone and is essentially unusable with the compass.
Using pure GPS is fine (so navigation and geocaching not affected) but the compass is poor.
Plus side, the phone is fast and smooth. It gets updates straight from Google, so no waiting for the maker to decide to release an update. It can be easily rooted and ROM'd if you want.
I do not use a screen protector or a case, because they make the phone look ugly. I use a Golla bag (http://www.golla.com/#/en/products/search/category/mobile/) that clips onto my belt and the phone has remained in tip-top condition.
Overall, very please with the phone and have no desire to change it for anything else.

I actually love the nexus s and I also have the original galaxy s. I beloved both perform equally well. You were concerned about GPS with the galaxy s, which CAN be remedied by using a custom rom but then you sacrifice the already low battery life even further. The nexus s has been an awesome phone to me. I would still suggest to wait or save for a 4g compatible phone. I'm not sure of coverage in your area but I was disappointed when I realized my nexus s was not 4g capable and its very similiar device the the original galaxy s.
My .02 cents.
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eatTHESEbullets said:
I actually love the nexus s and I also have the original galaxy s. I beloved both perform equally well. You were concerned about GPS with the galaxy s, which CAN be remedied by using a custom rom but then you sacrifice the already low battery life even further. The nexus s has been an awesome phone to me. I would still suggest to wait or save for a 4g compatible phone. I'm not sure of coverage in your area but I was disappointed when I realized my nexus s was not 4g capable and its very similiar device the the original galaxy s.
My .02 cents.
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Custom ROMs / Kernels actually make your phone last longer in terms of battery life.
4G? Can care less.. but HEY! Look at the Droid Charge and Thunderbolt. It's definitely draining your phone's battery at a 4G speed
3.5G (HSDPA) is enough for me.. I'm not using my phone as primary internet.
Source: http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new...-battery-issues-that-haunted-the-thunderbolt/
Personally. I love the Nexus S, great screen, developer support is starting to increase. The only phone I'd consider as a competitor would be the LG G2x. But even then, I committed myself to only getting Nexus phones.

No worries man. I know it's off topic but what is the status of asus transformer stocks like in taiwan?

suomaf said:
No worries man. I know it's off topic but what is the status of asus transformer stocks like in taiwan?
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You can buy them if you search a bit, there are a few here and there in some smaller retail shops. Online stores, it's more difficult to find. There are a lot of mix bagged feelings for ASUS Transformer for Taiwan folks.

eatTHESEbullets said:
I actually love the nexus s and I also have the original galaxy s. I beloved both perform equally well. You were concerned about GPS with the galaxy s, which CAN be remedied by using a custom rom but then you sacrifice the already low battery life even further. The nexus s has been an awesome phone to me. I would still suggest to wait or save for a 4g compatible phone. I'm not sure of coverage in your area but I was disappointed when I realized my nexus s was not 4g capable and its very similiar device the the original galaxy s.
My .02 cents.
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Thanks! 4G isn't really pushed too much here in Taiwan, since we have a bunch of public Wi-Fi networks here - "WiFly" service; very convenient for anybody who comes to Taiwan! For the Galaxy S, I tried diving into see the ROMs available, but I'm going to stick with the stock Nexus experience; all the ROMs I see seems to look only beta and ongoing.

coming from galaxy s 2

So i bought a Samsung phone which isn't that bad until i started finding out the faults! The problems that i came a cross were the fact gps was poor and so was the network, yet apart from that the phone is not that bad. nevertheless I am going to get a replaced for a sensation so is that good or a bad idea?
ps i had a HTC hd 2 before

You posted in a Sensation forum.Of course we are going to say its a great idea lol

manish2039 said:
So i bought a Samsung phone which isn't that bad until i started finding out the faults! The problems that i came a cross were the fact gps was poor and so was the network, yet apart from that the phone is not that bad. nevertheless I am going to get a replaced for a sensation so is that good or a bad idea?
ps i had a HTC hd 2 before
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its a terrible idea you have the greatest phone on planet earth and you wanna give it up?

tigerz0202 said:
its a terrible idea you have the greatest phone on planet earth and you wanna give it up?
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I wouldn't go that far calling it the greatest lol. But he has a point they are good phones. If your network is poor it night be the carrier itself. At least SGS2 is quadband 3G/UMTS/HSPA

None of us can speak for the things that matter to you. The things that make us love the device might not matter to you. Try it and decide for yourself.
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its all personal preference. i would say that even though i have the sensation, i would rather have the SG2 because it seems like its more faster and the whole touchiwiz 4 looks clean. im not saying that sense 3.0 isnt clean and isnt fast, i actually love it, but in the end its all personal preference and its up for you to decide. i suggest you try messing around with the sensation before you switch

Even though i myself am a Sensation owner, i can tell ya the SGSII, despite the lower res and the tad inexpensive build quality/looks, it's still a lot better phone.
Probably your carrier. However if u still wanna go with the Sensation.. then by all means; it is after all your call at the end of the day.

saffant said:
the tad inexpensive build quality
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"tad" is putting it lightly, IMO (as someone who owned a SGS2 for several hours today before deciding that I would return it before it got scratched and otherwise damaged. Samsung is all about the numbers game, rather than the overall user experience. They don't care if the phone feels fragile if they can claim it is the lightest. They don't care if it is uncomfortable to hold if they can say it's thinner than an iPhone 4 (they do this with the Tab 10.1 as well but it's not uncomfortable thankfully).
While the SGS2 screen is stunning to behold (even in strong sunlight) coming from someone who has hated all previous AMOLED screens because of how terrible the pentile grid arrangement made them look, It's a cheap, poorly designed phone. Great specs, very fast, etc
On the other hand, you have the Sensation which isn't perfect, but feels smaller in the hand, due to the curved back and the fact that it has a narrower but taller display, has a great looking, higher res screen, and has build quality that leaves one not wanting or needing a case for the phone.
If you have the SGS2 right now and are considering the Sensation, some of the stuff I mentioned is probably bothering you like it did me. I know how it feels to have people look at you like you're crazy for wanting to swap the SGS2 for the Sensation, since that's what I tried doing at Bell Canada today

If you plan on using and relying on WiFi, it's a terrible idea. The Sensation has the worst WiFi of any android phone I've used.

I think you will find out that it's the same experience in the end. There is a number of problems on Sensation aswell ...

thanks for the replies appreciated
i think i'll give this phone another week and then see if it has changed my mind or not.

manish2039 said:
So i bought a Samsung phone which isn't that bad until i started finding out the faults! The problems that i came a cross were the fact gps was poor and so was the network, yet apart from that the phone is not that bad. nevertheless I am going to get a replaced for a sensation so is that good or a bad idea?
ps i had a HTC hd 2 before
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How can you blame the SGS2 for poor network,dosen't make sense to me but I honestly think SGS2 is the better option to sensation with regards to two things
1) Countless custom Roms already which solve a lot of problems
2) Easily flashing of the latest Firmwares via ODIN regardless of whether you want to root or not
I am already using the 2.3.4 although its not official released and its great
At the end of the day its our choice Both phones have their pros and cons but for me the (easy firmware upgrade) was the DEAL BReAKEr

I would put a facepalm pic but thats no help.
Just stay with gs2, best phone eva. Sure it has better build quality but that always hidden with the case you put on it. In fact, putting a beautiful case on the sgs2 will not add much bulk at all and still have the best hardware.

Bsketball said:
If you plan on using and relying on WiFi, it's a terrible idea. The Sensation has the worst WiFi of any android phone I've used.
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YMMV. I ran Speedtest on my Sensation with wifi this morning and got over 26Mb down. I get better signal strength around my place than I did with my Vibrant. Some people report bad wifi on the SGS2. Just saying don't take every post as the last word.

Just because the Galaxy S line is made of super light plastic, doesn't mean its fragile and breaks easily. Samsung uses the material on purpose to make the phone light. They are probably just assuming that just because phones are getting bigger doesn't mean they need to get heavier. I actually know for a fact that Samsung puts a lot of research into the plastic material they use on there Galaxy S line. Weather its made of aluminum, plastic or rubber, its still feels solid while feeling light. I haven't seen anyone with a GSII complaining of a creaky battery cover like they are on the Sensation. I can't vouch for the GSII when it comes to holding up to damage over time but what I can vouch for is the Vibrant. That thing felt cheaply built as well since it was so damn light but I can assure you. It was probably the toughest Android device I've ever owned. I dropped it multiple times and the most it ever got was scratches to the chrome bezel that went around the phone. I took house keys to its display to show off its Gorilla glass to friends and the display remained in mint condition. Finally, that phone made it through over 50 house fires in which it got wet and was banged around. In case you don't know, you usually come out of a fire dripping from head to toe with water since there is thousands of gallons of it being thrown around. I always kept the phone my work shirt pocket so it was never in a case. That phone withstood water damage and "gravity" damage and still kept on ticking. That's more than I can sat about my Nexus One which only lasted through 2 or 3 fires. It ended up getting water underneath its display.
What I'm trying to get at is just because a phone is light and made of plastic, doesn't mean its cheaply made.
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ditch that and get a nokia 5110. its way better

jrwingate6 said:
What I'm trying to get at is just because a phone is light and made of plastic, doesn't mean its cheaply made.
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But it does mean that the vast majority of people will be using a case to prevent scratches/damage, negating a lot of their time and energy spent making it thin/light.
It just kills me there's so many "phone X is better than phone Y" threads on me, and they actually think that it's black and white like that.
I hate cases. I want to see beautiful design, not beautiful design wrapped in some silicon skin. Personal opinion of course. I also like docks (blame Palm's amazing touchstone for that). Blame the Atrix for turning me on to good vehicle docks (not that I ever drive, but when I do). I also like high res screens a lot. Oh and soft touch and metal. And silky smooth, curved glass.
Plenty of people don't care. They want the fastest processor, the most ram, a big battery, and a big screen, and nothing else matters. They'll slap it in a case anyway, so build quality doesn't matter a ton. Maybe they don't even care about scratches. The SGS2 is very, very nice. Millions of people are currently loving theirs. I tried. It's not for me. Damn that screen is so beautiful though, I miss it.

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But it does mean that the vast majority of people will be using a case to prevent scratches/damage, negating a lot of their time and energy spent making it thin/light.
It just kills me there's so many "phone X is better than phone Y" threads on me, and they actually think that it's black and white like that.
I hate cases. I want to see beautiful design, not beautiful design wrapped in some silicon skin. Personal opinion of course. I also like docks (blame Palm's amazing touchstone for that). Blame the Atrix for turning me on to good vehicle docks (not that I ever drive, but when I do). I also like high res screens a lot. Oh and soft touch and metal. And silky smooth, curved glass.
Plenty of people don't care. They want the fastest processor, the most ram, a big battery, and a big screen, and nothing else matters. They'll slap it in a case anyway, so build quality doesn't matter a ton. Maybe they don't even care about scratches. The SGS2 is very, very nice. Millions of people are currently loving theirs. I tried. It's not for me. Damn that screen is so beautiful though, I miss it.
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I don't like cases or screen protectors and I rarely ever use them. That's the thing. My Vibrant did not scratch as easy as one might think. I don't think if someone adds a case to a phone that's thin and light negates the time and energy it took to get there. Its comment sense. The light the phone is, the lighter its going to be with a case on it. Just because you add a case, doesn't mean it becomes as heavy as every other phone with a case on it. Or does it? Samsung uses plastic because a WiFi frequency and cell signal can pass through it easier than aluminum or metal. We have seen deathgrip issues time and time again with phones that are built with metals.
Lastly, if you like soft touch and silky smooth curved glass then the G2X impliments those two things perfectly. The rubbery back plate and the beveled glass that curves down feels awesome. The glass us also smoother than what the Sensation has. I also like how LG beveled the G2X glass. It goes down instead of up so your fingers just glide right off the display when swiping. Its a much better implimentation than HTC's beveled glass which curves up. To bad the G2X can't run a full day without rebooting though.
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MT4G Design and construction, what do you think

hello this is my first post and i wanna know what is your opinion about My touch 4g design, construction, the name "mytouch 4g", or the mt4g logo it self.
and here is my opinion:
Design & Construction
i think mytouch 4g design is bit different with other HTC phones. most of HTC phones' design are boxy, minimalist and simple, but MT4G design is more in detail. like the phone speaker or the curved edge.
MT4G also have 4 physical buttons, which is on the new generation of HTC phones usually use touch sensitive button instead of physical button.
"My touch"
i live in Indonesia, and brand "my touch" sounds like cheap china's phones here. in my country there were tons of iphone imitations that use word "touch" for their brand. so when my friend saw this phone for the first time he ask me. "is it an i phone imitation?"
so what do you think about my touch 4g design, compared to other HTC phone or else, also the brand image in your country.
out of topic: you know what, dell's tablet "peju". in indonesia "peju" means sperm.

I think the myTouch line sucks when it comes to advertising and endorsing. And the build is great, but not as good as other HTC phones like the Legend, DHD, Thunderbolt, etc.
Tmobile really should have marketed this line a whole lot better. And the name should have been better than the "myTouch."
The Droid line is successful and popular because it has a kick ass name and good commercials.
The MT4G itself is a great phone, but to answer your question, I think tmobile dropped the ball on this one.
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I think the myTouch line sucks when it comes to advertising and endorsing. And the build is great, but not as good as other HTC phones like the Legend, DHD, Thunderbolt, etc.
Tmobile really should have marketed this line a whole lot better. And the name should have been better than the "myTouch."
The Droid line is successful and popular because it has a kick ass name and good commercials.
The MT4G itself is a great phone, but to answer your question, I think tmobile dropped the ball on this one.
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hey i just watch mt4g commercials on youtube. they were very funny. hahaha.
i don't know what happen between at&t and t-mobile but mt4g commercials just strengthen that mt4g is an iphone copy.

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The MT4G itself is a great phone, but to answer your question, I think tmobile dropped the ball on this one.
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I agree somewhat.
The Mytouch 4g is a GREAT phone, if you get the 1 in a million unicorn mytouch with no build problems.
For others, it's an endless cycle or exchanging through tmobile/htc to get the perfect mytouch, which in my case, I still dont have. The FFC still crooked, small dust under screen... I went through 3 phones before I said F*CK it and went with this one.
Just look at the "how many times did you exchange your mt4g" thread at XDA and you will see how ****ty HTC build has become.
Sorry, but although I do like the MT4G, my next phone will be Samsung S2 or better (flame on for those samsuck h8ters)
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PS. I forgot to mention the wonderful mysense experience and bloated software of the mytouch android OS.

h22aboi said:
I agree somewhat.
The Mytouch 4g is a GREAT phone, if you get the 1 in a million unicorn mytouch with no build problems.
For others, it's an endless cycle or exchanging through tmobile/htc to get the perfect mytouch, which in my case, I still dont have. The FFC still crooked, small dust under screen... I went through 3 phones before I said F*CK it and went with this one.
Just look at the "how many times did you exchange your mt4g" thread at XDA and you will see how ****ty HTC build has become.
Sorry, but although I do like the MT4G, my next phone will be Samsung S2 or better (flame on for those samsuck h8ters)
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PS. I forgot to mention the wonderful mysense experience and bloated software of the mytouch android OS.
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You know people can hate on Samsung all they want but their build quality and quality control is WAY better than any HTC. Even Sensation owners face similar problems as MT4G such as dust under the screen, creaks, touch screen unresponsiveness etc. And the list goes on.
They may be plastic, but Samsung phones are better IMO. HTC just has better software.

i agree on the name... Mytouch sounds cheap
i wish the Mytouch in the front was changed to HTC like the Panache.
but the codename GLACIER is amazingggg
overall, VERY nice phone.

At first glance, the MT4G feels like a high-end phone. It feels great in the hand, has the metal backing, no squeaks or creaks to the case, etc.
But at closer inspection, there are a lot of little build imperfections. My particular phone has these issues:
- badly off-centered front and rear cameras
- very loud physical buttons below the screen
- the glass over the screen is not centered (it is flush with the metal bezel on the right, but there is a noticeable gap between them on the left)
- lots of backlight bleed-threw around the screen and physical buttons
There's also the issues of good versus bad eMMC chips, and a huge difference in display quality between the Sharp and Sony SLCD screens.
My opinion is that the phone was designed very well, but the production department dropped the ball when it comes to choosing good components (screen and chip) and assembling the phones (my issues above). It's almost like since T-Mobile is a "budget" carrier, HTC doesn't take phones destined for the T-Mobile network very seriously. It's amazing many MT4G's made it through HTC quality control and out the door...

My opinion...great specs (for the time), uneven execution. I don't plan to upgrade anytime soon, but my phone is super creaky (buttons, battery cover), has so much dust under the lens I can't see the notifications in sunlight and has nearly all of the battery cover coating scratched off (by my fingernail, but still, wtf?). The design is a little ghetto fabulous as well, with all the disparate materials, finishes and design elements.

The myTouch 4G is not the best phone of its generation and the low resale value is rather telling when it comes to what people think of its build quality or its limited T-Mobile-only 3G connectivity, but I think the third-party developer potential for this phone is as good or better than its fellow 2010 model year phones, and it ended up being exactly what I was seeking in my contract-free price range. The only other choices on my radar were the older HTC HD2 and HTC Desire, but the Glacier is a much better piece of hardware.
I'm sure nobody here wants to read this, but to me, the myTouch 4G bears a slight superficial resemblance to the old iPhone form factor with buttons with the rounded, chrome-trimmed bezel. However, the greater angle of the rounded edges, front camera, larger screen, and physical buttons all help give the phone its own character. The physical buttons are a plus for me because I like the tactile feedback even though we've all adapted to not feel a need for it anymore.
The design of the phone is good, but the execution and build has been inconsistent from the good and bad screens and eMMC chips to the tightness of the assembly. I'm extremely meticulous, which made getting a phone off of eBay time-consuming with all the questions I was asking the sellers. Fortunately, I got one in mint condition with a good screen, no dust, no scratches, no backlight bleed, and no creaking whatsoever. The front camera is slightly off-center, but it doesn't bother me at all. I was initially concerned about having a bad eMMC, but it didn't get in the way of rooting.
As for the myTouch moniker, it's not great, but I'm not big on names in general unless they are completely awful. This is what T-Mobile chose to name their flagship line and it is recognizable as one of the better pieces of hardware on the market at its given launch date. At least it was, until now with the new LG junk that doesn't compare to the myTouch 4G Slide. I guess it's better than the crap they've unveiled under the Sidekick name.
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hey i just watch mt4g commercials on youtube. they were very funny. hahaha.
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Carly Foulkes. That is all.
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has nearly all of the battery cover coating scratched off (by my fingernail, but still, wtf?).
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Honestly, keep scratching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030367

I own the G2 and this phone. Both had little quirks however I fixed my hinge on the g2 and as for the mytouch, you can't fix the quirks can u?
Its great, it looks pretty sexy but the logo is ugly, and mine creaks on the left side. Still no idea how to get the creaks out.
Specwise its great. Even the screen is nice, I don't have phone envy.
I feel sorry for the poor saps buying new phones just to update to gingerbread or get a faster processing speed.
Its sexier then the cellphone I used ten years ago.
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I don't have any of the problems that all these other people are experiencing. Maybe I just got lucky my phone. The only annoying thing to me is the logo an the lack of a power mat charger( I have to use the cube). My emmc chip is a good one, then screen is the better one also. Never had to change my phone since I bought it in February. No connection issues for me, better yet I never had a single issue with this phone, once.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

I also have had zero build problems. Phone is decent spec wise for its time, easy to root and mod, and has a solid feel for its construction. I'm running Faux's CM Nexus Gingerbread 1.3.1.
The MT4G replaced my N1, which is now my back-up phone in case something does ever break. But, even though my N1 is rooted and has a custom rom (Oxygen GB 2.3.7), I find I seldom go back to it because MT4G has more ram, more storage memory, 2nd gen. processor (can OC to 1.84 but is usually at 1.1) and a far better camera for still pictures and 720p video. The only slight edge I would give the N1, which admittedly is older, is the benefit of an Amoled screen for power usage; though both screens are bright and clear enough. Otherwise, both of these phones did everything I needed them to.

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I just wished the 4g had 4 inch screen

Me too man, more internal storage
also. I find it funny that whenever I go on engadget (bad site I kno) and read something pertaining to android, there are so many people complaining about how it soo buggy and has so many FCs.Personally I have gotten atmost 10 FCs (mostly with this truly buggy youtube google failed on) with this phone using stock (go launcher ex tho). I have owned this phone since december, got really lucky to not have any hardware issues either. So basically I love my phone Lol!
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They may be plastic, but Samsung phones are better IMO. HTC just has better software.
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+1... bad screens, bad emmc, off centered ffc... wtf? i don't think i've ever been through this many replacement phones...
had an allegiance to htc, but after this, i'm left wanting to try something better...

cbutt said:
+1... bad screens, bad emmc, off centered ffc... wtf? i don't think i've ever been through this many replacement phones...
had an allegiance to htc, but after this, i'm left wanting to try something better...
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I agree... quality control from HTC is practically nonexistant. I still would rather have an HTC phone though as long as it's not too bad, because I can't imagine going without their software. Sense is beautiful.

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I agree... quality control from HTC is practically nonexistant. I still would rather have an HTC phone though as long as it's not too bad, because I can't imagine going without their software. Sense is beautiful.
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samsung UI is crap.

saranhai said:
samsung UI is crap.
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That's just a biased opinion.
It doesn't look as pretty as Sense, but is way faster and much smoother. Plus it has awesome video codecs that no other ROM has.

mackster248 said:
That's just a biased opinion.
It doesn't look as pretty as Sense, but is way faster and much smoother. Plus it has awesome video codecs that no other ROM has.
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if we talking about touchwiz 4.0, yes it's good, but touchwiz 3.0 is ugly.
i think Samsung's phone like a race cars, it has a powerful hardware but its interior is very simple and lack of features, its interior is designed just to make it go fast. HTC's phone is like a exotic cars with wooden dashboard, leather interior, and full of features.
then let say, samsung galaxy s II is ferari fxx, then mytouch 4g is aston martin db9.

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That's just a biased opinion.
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Is there any other kind of opinion?
It is true that version 4.0 makes TouchWiz look a lot better than it used to, but it's nowhere near as nice looking as Sense.