why LG Nexus 4 LACK so many good nice cases,
Lets take for example iPhone 5 even before came out there was like premium leather otter box, etc... very nice sexy cases out there.On the other side, even after a month of launch date Considering volume of sales of LG Nexus 4 it is so strange that there is no nice premium cases yet, there is however silicone covers and plastic snap on cases, which I personally think destroy the nice look of LG Nexus 4.
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Because most case makers think theres no market for it since the phone initially came out with no provider in mind and if its not a flagship of a provider usually theres no commercials or advertising about it. So most of the time the people will know about it are people like us, word of mouth or online advertising. They don't really know the demand for these and it would be their loss and the few companies who do pick up on them will get on in on it. Thats why you see those companies of asks for votes or requests so they can see the demand and how much money they will be making etc... (little did they know people were buying bumpers on ebay for $100)
I would wait a while though, if they do release the phone in more countries it will start picking up. Now with iPhone or the S3 there is a lot because of international audience.
Noreve released their case for the nexus today.
I've had a lot experience with them and they are of extremely good quality, especially the "Exception Selection".
http://www.noreve.com/langue/en/product/LG_Google_Nexus_4_Tradition_leather_case.html
I'm just not sure if I want a flip case.
Because they are dumb, basically. It seems this market is a reactionary one. They don't know the value of being the first to market or predicting success. They just make a case for the next iPhone and whatever android phone is being advertised like crazy. Then everything else afterwards.
If any of those guys had come out with a case first they would likely have gotten a good majority of the sales with barely any competition
It won't sell at the volume of any iPhone. And Google doesn't send out units before launch so case makers have to wait to get a phone then go through the whole process of designing, etc.
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Seido has a page with "Under Development" listed for it.
http://www.seidioonline.com/seidio-LG-Nexus-4-s/8594.htm
All these other companies are too busy jumping on apple's stick. And that's just the honest truth.
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All these other companies are too busy jumping on apple's stick. And that's just the honest truth.
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To be fair, and I'm not even being "genderist" but a large % of iPhone users are girls and they own a large amount of cases. They feel that it's necessary to have a case matching their outfits. iPhones just have a bigger market for accessories such as cases and it is one iconic phone whereas Android has phones coming out every other week.
Case makers are businesses and businesses' primary goal is to maximize their profits. They just don't feel that Nexus devices are as profitable as other phones such as iPhone, Galaxy S3 or Galaxy Note.
Samsung's Galaxy is becoming a very powerful brand. I feel that if Google/LG had a more successful launch with Nexus 4 inventory, case manufacturers would of been more eager to make a case for the phone as phone sales are booming, sadly they're missing the holiday timeframe.
http://ansonalex.com/infographics/android-users-vs-iphone-users-the-demographics/ for proof. This was last years' so a lot of stuff has changed, surprised we haven't one of these for the year of 2012 as I feel that it is a lot different than how it was in 2011.
Case manufacturers make cases only for devices that sell exceptionally well. No matter how Apple map sucks and no matter how each and every Android fanboy think the iPhone 5 sucks, it was guaranteed a big seller even before it was available.
The Nexus 4, on the other hand, is not one such phone. First of all, it is highly unavailable. And even if Google was able to fulfill all the orders placed (and will be placed), still only a fraction of the iPhone number of Nexus 4 would be sold (remember, without huge ad campaign and carrier support).
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All these other companies are too busy jumping on apple's stick. And that's just the honest truth.
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Except they're making cases for plenty of other phones that have come out recently besides the iPhone...
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All these other companies are too busy jumping on apple's stick. And that's just the honest truth.
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Actually the companies jump on whatever stick will make them the most money (which is why there are a million iphone 5 and gs3 cases/docks/etc.) and I don't blame them. The nexus s sold <0.5 million units, the gnex roughly sold 4x that and the n4 is unlikely to match that (supply issues and only being sold through tmo.)
So why would companies make accessories for devices that are going to sell <2M units in their life when they can make accessories for devices that will sell 40M in a year?
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To be fair, and I'm not even being "genderist" but a large % of iPhone users are girls and they own a large amount of cases.
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To be fair, you are.
Because they do for lots of other devices that sell in the same range? It is simple forecasting and ROI.
The problem here is that Google is simply not that good at commerce. And it ripples through the accessories ecosystem.
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Actually the companies jump on whatever stick will make them the most money (which is why there are a million iphone 5 and gs3 cases/docks/etc.) and I don't blame them. The nexus s sold <0.5 million units, the gnex roughly sold 4x that and the n4 is unlikely to match that (supply issues and only being sold through tmo.)
So why would companies make accessories for devices that are going to sell <2M units in their life when they can make accessories for devices that will sell 40M in a year?
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Not at all. Check the stats on the bottom of my post. Proven fact that girls are more likely to be using I phones. Possibly be sure they have smaller hands or are just on the trend where their friends use I phones so they use it too for face time I message whatever. They are more likely to buy multiple cases in different colors for their different outfits. Us guys just have one case and we let it be.
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Not at all. Check the stats on the bottom of my post. Proven fact that girls are more likely to be using I phones. Possibly be sure they have smaller hands or are just on the trend where their friends use I phones so they use it too for face time I message whatever. They are more likely to buy multiple cases in different colors for their different outfits. Us guys just have one case and we let it be.
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There is one report that says women are more likely to buy an iphone, with no sample size or any other info given by the way, everything else you said (like women owning more cases) is anecdotal.
The female iphone owners I know typically have 1 case whereas all the male android owners I know have multiple cases, myself included, because we usually have a slim case and an armored case (otterbox) depending on what situation we will be in. Of course I would never state my anecdotal evidence as fact.
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There is one report that says women are more likely to buy an iphone, with no sample size or any other info given by the way, everything else you said (like women owning more cases) is anecdotal.
The female iphone owners I know typically have 1 case whereas all the male android owners I know have multiple cases, myself included, because we usually have a slim case and an armored case (otterbox) depending on what situation we will be in. Of course I would never state my anecdotal evidence as fact.
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Depends on where you're from. I know people here have multiple cases and change them based on their outfits as I am from New York City. I personally only have one case, but it definitely helps companies decide whether or not they want to want make a case for that phone. Knowing that people who buy multiple iPhone cases to swap them out helps them in that case.
I'm not even saying Otterboxes or things like that. There are a numerous amount of cases orientated towards females, they buy it for the design.
http://www.barbiecollector.com/shop/accessory/barbie-iphone-case-f5073
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....8.0.97.870.12.12.0...0.0...1ac.1.Mipbzvh7ZjU
... all the youtube results are girls. if you type "android case collectors" "galaxy s3 case collectors "<any other phone> case collectors"
at this point, i strongly believe its common sense that girls are more than likely to have more than ONE iphone case for its design / style. but then again, who am I to say that since this is a "developer" website ... just my observations based on personal experience as a student
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNPWAKAmvgY look how silly this video is. 207K views
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmWXvXPtds 110K views.
back to on point....... basically, higher # of sales on device determines whether or not a company is willing to invest money into producing a case for the phone.
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Depends on where you're from. I know people here have multiple cases and change them based on their outfits as I am from New York City. I personally only have one case, but it definitely helps companies decide whether or not they want to want make a case for that phone. Knowing that people who buy multiple iPhone cases to swap them out helps them in that case.
I'm not even saying Otterboxes or things like that. There are a numerous amount of cases orientated towards females, they buy it for the design.
http://www.barbiecollector.com/shop/accessory/barbie-iphone-case-f5073
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....8.0.97.870.12.12.0...0.0...1ac.1.Mipbzvh7ZjU
... all the youtube results are girls. if you type "android case collectors" "galaxy s3 case collectors "<any other phone> case collectors"
at this point, i strongly believe its common sense that girls are more than likely to have more than ONE iphone case for its design / style. but then again, who am I to say that since this is a "developer" website ... just my observations based on personal experience as a student
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNPWAKAmvgY look how silly this video is. 207K views
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmWXvXPtds 110K views.
back to on point....... basically, higher # of sales on device determines whether or not a company is willing to invest money into producing a case for the phone.
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You are so right with my fiance she has cases based on her outfit. I do have multiple cases but mine are for functionality for the situation I'm in. I would never buy a iPhone though but my fiance did she had a iPhone 3 then a iPhone 4s and now she is using my Galaxy Skyrocket she loves android now that I converted her. She was always asking why I can mod my phone so much and she cant. So I let her use my Skyrocket and she wont give it back. But she is in love with my "sparkly" phone Lol but little does she know she has one under the tree already rooted and unlocked boot loader.
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Depends on where you're from. I know people here have multiple cases and change them based on their outfits as I am from New York City. I personally only have one case, but it definitely helps companies decide whether or not they want to want make a case for that phone. Knowing that people who buy multiple iPhone cases to swap them out helps them in that case.
I'm not even saying Otterboxes or things like that. There are a numerous amount of cases orientated towards females, they buy it for the design.
http://www.barbiecollector.com/shop/accessory/barbie-iphone-case-f5073
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....8.0.97.870.12.12.0...0.0...1ac.1.Mipbzvh7ZjU
... all the youtube results are girls. if you type "android case collectors" "galaxy s3 case collectors "<any other phone> case collectors"
at this point, i strongly believe its common sense that girls are more than likely to have more than ONE iphone case for its design / style. but then again, who am I to say that since this is a "developer" website ... just my observations based on personal experience as a student
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNPWAKAmvgY look how silly this video is. 207K views
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmWXvXPtds 110K views.
back to on point....... basically, higher # of sales on device determines whether or not a company is willing to invest money into producing a case for the phone.
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I'm in LA, the land of plastic people, but that again doesn't mean I would use my personal experiences and present them as fact...that is all.
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Head over to daydeal.com they have some accessories even a TV out cord that says its for the incredible and g2 ( anyone got extra cash to buy it and see if it works? ) I ordered this clear case with a kickstand I'll put a review when i get it. But take a look. Not much of a selection but might as well be prepared
have no plans of making a fat phone fatter. maybe an invisible shield or BSE but no hard case for me.
Hate to say it, but I don't think we'll be seeing much accessories for this phone. Due to it being a Tmobile phone only, I just don't see many making products for it.
Im gonna get something to protect the back cuz it looks like it gets scratched easily
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Hate to say it, but I don't think we'll be seeing much accessories for this phone. Due to it being a Tmobile phone only, I just don't see many making products for it.
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like what happened to G1 and N1
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Im gonna get something to protect the back cuz it looks like it gets scratched easily
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aluminum scratches. alot. especially if its chrome plated. might just get a back cover. screen looks durable.
I'll probably just keep my eye on decalgirl.com and wait for them to release some of their awesome quality skins. I've used their product on all my handheld portable devices that they make skins for.
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I'll probably just keep my eye on decalgirl.com and wait for them to release some of their awesome quality skins. I've used their product on all my handheld portable devices that they make skins for.
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never seen their website but already loving the skins. look pretty cool.
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never seen their website but already loving the skins. look pretty cool.
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Oh man, decalgirl.com has been out for years. I remember getting a decal for my original XBOX 360 from them when I first got it. Top notch stuff from them!
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Hate to say it, but I don't think we'll be seeing much accessories for this phone. Due to it being a Tmobile phone only, I just don't see many making products for it.
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well the desire z is the exact same so yes there will be lots more.
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Hate to say it, but I don't think we'll be seeing much accessories for this phone. Due to it being a Tmobile phone only, I just don't see many making products for it.
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I doubt only being for tmobile will make it have less accessories. I have so many cases and such for my nexus and the nexus was mostly used on tmobile but now they have it across seas. The iPhones an at&t only phone and it has too many accessories. And to ditto what he said there is also the desire z
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I doubt only being for tmobile will make it have less accessories. I have so many cases and such for my nexus and the nexus was mostly used on tmobile but now they have it across seas. The iPhones an at&t only phone and it has too many accessories. And to ditto what he said there is also the desire z
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I understand that the Desire Z will be out as well, and that still means nothing. All those cases you speak of for the Nexus One are cheap cases found on eBay, or made by some cheap China company. I know because I own a Nexus One as well, and it took a while to find a great case for it.
Also, to compare the new G2 to an iPhone is just stupid. iPhone carries the name, and has been around for years. Of course there's a ton of crap for it. Heck the G2 won't even come near to selling a quarter of what the iPhone, nor will it come close to what the Galaxy S has for that matter.
All I'm saying is that we won't see the nicer accessories made by the better companies make product for this phone. We're just gonna get stuck with those cheap ebay crap.
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I understand that the Desire Z will be out as well, and that still means nothing. All those cases you speak of for the Nexus One are cheap cases found on eBay, or made by some cheap China company. I know because I own a Nexus One as well, and it took a while to find a great case for it.
Also, to compare the new G2 to an iPhone is just stupid. iPhone carries the name, and has been around for years. Of course there's a ton of crap for it. Heck the G2 won't even come near to selling a quarter of what the iPhone, nor will it come close to what the Galaxy S has for that matter.
All I'm saying is that we won't see the nicer accessories made by the better companies make product for this phone. We're just gonna get stuck with those cheap ebay crap.
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Uhh Seidio? The made cases for the N1 almost instantly. That is not a cheap case at all. I know cause I had a holster combo from them.......
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I understand that the Desire Z will be out as well, and that still means nothing. All those cases you speak of for the Nexus One are cheap cases found on eBay, or made by some cheap China company. I know because I own a Nexus One as well, and it took a while to find a great case for it.
Also, to compare the new G2 to an iPhone is just stupid. iPhone carries the name, and has been around for years. Of course there's a ton of crap for it. Heck the G2 won't even come near to selling a quarter of what the iPhone, nor will it come close to what the Galaxy S has for that matter.
All I'm saying is that we won't see the nicer accessories made by the better companies make product for this phone. We're just gonna get stuck with those cheap ebay crap.
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You can't really blame them. In a business perspective making accessories for the iphone is the most profitable since iphone is, in a sense, dumbed down for the masses. Right now I think Apple and Blackberry combined own at least 50% market share. So unless Android can somehow bring their share of the smartphone market up another 10%, I doubt accessory manufacturers will see accessories for Android devices as a primary source of revenue.
Android devices are made for geeks like us who like to customize instead of having things already premade for us. So I'm sure this aspect will appeal to more and more people in the near future. And from what I've seen, HTC has brilliant marketing campaigns. I'm sure in around 3 or 4 more quarters android will have a much better standing in the smartphone market and more accessories will be made. Just my 2 cents.
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I'll probably just keep my eye on decalgirl.com and wait for them to release some of their awesome quality skins. I've used their product on all my handheld portable devices that they make skins for.
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I just contacted DecalGirl and they said that the phone is scheduled for R&D for their products. They seem to have a pretty quick turnaround once they have a template made for a device.
i have a 99 cent silicon case for my nexus one which came with a free screen protector. they work great, and have kept my phone flawless.... so cheap ebay stuff works just fine for me.
I'm going to miss my Nexus One's foam pouch.
Anyone seen something like that for the G2 yet?
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I'm going to miss my Nexus One's foam pouch.
Anyone seen something like that for the G2 yet?
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You shoulda kept the N1 pouch...the G2 fits pretty good in it! Snug, but good enough for me until I get some protection for the thing.
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You shoulda kept the N1 pouch...the G2 fits pretty good in it! Snug, but good enough for me until I get some protection for the thing.
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Ah, damn. Guess it's time to hunt.
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Head over to daydeal.com they have some accessories even a TV out cord that says its for the incredible and g2 ( anyone got extra cash to buy it and see if it works? ) I ordered this clear case with a kickstand I'll put a review when i get it. But take a look. Not much of a selection but might as well be prepared
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did you already recieve that case from daydeal.com? please let us know details as soon as you get it.. i would like a nice durable case that won't effect the slide mechanism, yet keeping it as slim as possible. i need to bite the bullet on a case soon or else i will end up scratching my phone
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did you already recieve that case from daydeal.com? please let us know details as soon as you get it.. i would like a nice durable case that won't effect the slide mechanism, yet keeping it as slim as possible. i need to bite the bullet on a case soon or else i will end up scratching my phone
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yea I received it today in the mail and just got my phone about an hour ago. Right now I'm restoring apps so after that I'll make a video off my nexus and put it on youtube
They have said that even though the Nexus 4 is selling out worldwide, they wont make one unless there is consumer demand for it. I have already sent numerous tweets about it asking if they are considering making one soon.
You should shoot them a message asking the same. Even if you dont want one, more case options from major makers cant hurt can it?
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Some of the replys on twitter look rather promising.
I did an online chat with them this moring.
I was told "there are no plans at this time" to make one, however "that doesn't mean" we won't. Said marketing needed to be done, etc.
I asked if selling millions vs. hundreds of thousands had anything to do with their decision & the said that it could be a factor.
Guess i'm an Otterbox fan boy. Had every smartphone i've owned since the Blackberry Bold in one.
That is what I am hoping would happen if people start really bugging them for it.
My nexus 4 looks great now, but i always worry about that one **** up moment where it doesnt quite make it into my pocket. If they dont want to make it, then oh well, someone else who does want my money will get it.
all the the big case makers (trident, ballisitc, otterbox...etc) are staying away from the nexus 4 as if it was the plague... it's anyone's guess why won't they make a case for a phone that clearly it has a demand (look how fast it sold out at google and tmo) and clearly would benefit from protection, and If they have made a case for the Optimus G... just round out the corners and make one for the N4... no real rocket science there
Well... I want to be optimistic for once... for once..:good:
I really want Otterbox for my Nexus 4 love Otterbox. I don't have a twitter is there a email address I could spam them at.
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i dont do twitter and i dont like otterbox, but ill send an email to bother them just to seemingly trump up demand
updated with facebook and email.
spam awaaaaaaaay :cyclops:
Definitely tweeted them about it, I'm surprised by the amount of tweets about it so far! keep it up guys good work
I would love for them to make a Reflex Series case for the N4 like they did with the iphone 4(s)
Less bulk than the Commuter but just about the same level of protection and easier time to take the cover on/off too!!
Let's campaign this!
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I would love for them to make a Reflex Series case for the N4 like they did with the iphone 4(s)
Less bulk than the Commuter but just about the same level of protection and easier time to take the cover on/off too!!
Let's campaign this!
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I tweeted them, and they asked about some Reddit Petition. Does anyone know about this petition? I'd love to sign it, and think it should be linked here as well.
i was saddened when they didnt make a case for the Nexus S, my girlfriend got the Galaxy nexus, and now she has an otter case for her phone.
I get the Nexus 4.... NOTHING!
just my luck!
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I tweeted them, and they asked about some Reddit Petition. Does anyone know about this petition? I'd love to sign it, and think it should be linked here as well.
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Yeah, it's right here: change.org/petitions/otterbox-create-cases-for-the-lg-manufactured-google-nexus-4-2
Sign it if you want the otterbox!
The only one that interests me is the Defender, with its built-in screen protector.
Anybody here who gave this case a try: http://www.ebay.de/itm/390518619002 ?
So far the only one I found that covers the USB port an headphone jack.
Signed.
29 more signatures to what exactly?
don't use this, it will make the n4 TWICE as thick! the otter is too bulky and thick
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don't use this, it will make the n4 TWICE as thick! the otter is too bulky and thick
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Case choices are always good. Don't like them? Dont bash them but support them either way. The more accessories we get, the better.
Everybody has their own requirements for cases, some prefer best protection whereas some people want minimal protection etc.
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We are evaluating the device and watching the online petitions. However, at this moment we don't plan on protecting the device.
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If they ever change their mind, it'll be too late anyway: Most everyone will have settled for other options.
I don't understand the hate for plastic, it's far more durable than metal for the function of a phone. I've actually got the One now, it's waiting to be exchanged for the GS4 but sadly that has been delayed until May now. When using the One I was constantly worried about dropping it, I kept checking for scratched, it just made me paranoid. I even went searching for cases and I realized I hate the people who go on about the design of the phone and then wrap it in an ugly cheap case anyways. I put the frigging phone in my pocket, nothing else there and it gets a scuff some how. I realized I cannot live with the One, it's not fun to use and I'm constantly worried about it getting damaged. The thing that swung me exchanging it though was seeing how you wont be repairing it yourself, it's so poorly designed. I mean in the past if I've dropped a phone, I go to ebay, buy the parts and repair it myself, you cannot do that with the One. On top of that the One gets so hot, it's like one big heat sink, it makes playing games so uncomfortable.
So I've put the One away waiting for it to be exchanged and went back to my Nokia. Plastic is so much nicer, it has more grip, it keeps the heat in one location so you can just not hold it there, it doesn't scuff or scratch like a *****. I've looked at the GS4 teardown and the plastic rim is easy to take off and replace and so is the back cover obviously. I can not worry about dropping it or scratching it or the condition of my battery sitting in a heatsink sandwich like on the One. I can just easily replace all that stuff if I do damage it.
For me plastic is the better material by far and I don't see it as a down side. I'm getting bored of every review saying how the One is better and all they mention is the design. I've got one, it isn't well designed, it isn't even well made, I've got giant gaps between the glued on speaker grills and the plastic on the phone.
I just don't get it, but whatever!
Along the same lines of design complaints, I love how many ppl diss the design saying it looks exactly like the S3 and there isn't anything special about it. So why don't ppl say the same thing about the iphone that has only seen 1 true design change in 6 years? Not hating on Apple, I just don't see what all the fuss is about the S4 design being "dull" when other major phones don't change as drastically either.
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Ttoally agree
I could understand if the aluminum vs plastic debate was made into the subset, lesser point of contention that it is. But multiple reviews, mainly from American websites, have put it front and center as one of the biggest issues and one of the most important if not THE most important distinction between the phones. Like, seriously? Most of these reviews skim over features, barely juggle the cameras, and no real mention of Mobeam. So they insert the classic filler argument to get page views, and no new information is shown, and no real analysis done.
The only thing "cheap" going on here is the reporting. If you're reviewing a unit and you have limited access to the phone and can't do a proper review, just say so. Don't take up paragraphs to explain this "war" that few people really care about whatsoever, and especially don't make up 1/3 the problems with the phone as "it doesn't feel premium"; there's far more concerning issues to list besides that.
And it's not like cases are rare among mainstream buyers: https://www.npd.com/wps/portal/npd/us/news/press-releases/pr_120821/
Custom cases, skins, and other phone accessories make up a multi-billion dollar industry in of itself. The idea that "naked phones" are the standard and everyone should adhere to it is asinine. I would rather put a real kick ass Breaking Bad print on the back cover of my Galaxy S4 then use the generic black mist for instance.
Due to all the hype, I went out the other day to check out the HTC One and I was honestly underwhelmed. Premium feel? I don't think so. Maybe I'm weird but the One actually kind of felt like plastic to me, LOL~ The aluminum isn't even very solid and dense and it felt only a bit more thicker than my can of Rockstar I drink every day. If HTC were gonna do aluminum, they should've at least used higher quality aluminum like the one on the iPhone 5. At least the iPhone 5 does feel a bit premium. I appreciate aluminum for my car's suspension parts but don't care for it on my phone.
Sure the HTC One looks premium but I would feel bad covering up that "premium" look with a case. But if I don't put it in a case, I'll feel even worse when it gets scratched. If any dust gets under you case, its going to slaughter the aluminum finish on the One.
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Because people are dumb.
Most of my previous phones were aluminum and *solid*... That's no indication of durability as screen breaks and dents are still commonplace with metal phones. Removable battery, cooler to hold, lighter, less prone to visible scratches etc.
A vast majority of smartphone users put there phones in hideous cases anyway so the entire *premium feel* argument is fluff.
Bottom line something feeling more dense doesn't means is better quality. Just pure subjective nonsense.
If htc, sony, and apple fanboys dont bash the design, what else they have to bring down samsung? No nothing, samsung is way beyond all of them in rest of the departments.
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I'm of the view that the whole plastic thing just comes down to personal choice.For me the most lacking quality in the the s4 is the abundance of lag
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So are u saying u must choose Toyota instead of BMW so you wouldn't worry about scratches?
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So are u saying u must choose Toyota instead of BMW so you wouldn't worry about scratches?
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Every time someone uses a car metaphor, it's almost always complete rubbish. Aside from the fact that it's the paint you're scratching on the car, even if it were all aluminum, the "fix" doesn't carry over to a phone. You going to use chemical treatment/sanding on your phone to help with those scratches? The alternative is you send it back for a replacement (and warranties normally don't cover tiny scratches on the phone), or cover up the scratches with a case/skin (and then what's the point?).
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If htc, sony, and apple fanboys dont bash the design, what else they have to bring down samsung? No nothing, samsung is way beyond all of them in rest of the departments.
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Honestly no one is discussing the s4 in the one forums. Here all you guys do is Talk about the one. Take a deep breath and enjoy your phone. This isn't a war ffs.
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Honestly no one is discussing the s4 in the one forums. Here all you guys do is Talk about the one. Take a deep breath and enjoy your phone. This isn't a war ffs.
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Thats a lie my friend, when the S4 reviews came out that is all that were being discussed at the One forum.
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It's just way too hard for some of them to accept that in some circles the One is being touted as the better phone.
What the SGS 4 wins at, it's a fractional win. What the One wins at, it's almost a night and day difference. IE: Speaker quality, call quality, audio capturing capability & design. And no amount of crying is going to change that.
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It's just way too hard for some of them to accept that in some circles the One is being touted as the better phone.
What the SGS 4 wins at, it's a fractional win. What the One wins at, it's almost a night and day difference. IE: Speaker quality, call quality, audio capturing capability & design. And no amount of crying is going to change that.
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Removable battery, sd card, tons of more sensors, bigger screen, can be used with gloves and dozens of software features. It goes both ways.
Same could be said about all your audio stuff, it's fractional. Except for the stereo speakers.
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Yeah, HTC is breaking ground with those 2 million units. Samsung's shipping it's next 10 million batch soon I believe, after several carriers sold out of pre-orders. Keep telling yourself the speakers and aluminum design are all you need to have a good phone while the rest of us enjoy the aspects that "don't matter" like camera resolution, sensors, good software features, expandable memory, removable battery, screen size, headphone quality, Mobeam tech, and better hardware all around.
But you can record some really fly videos at the Slipknot concert, so there's that.
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Yeah, HTC is breaking ground with those 2 million units. Samsung's shipping it's next 10 million batch soon I believe, after several carriers sold out of pre-orders. Keep telling yourself the speakers and aluminum design are all you need to have a good phone while the rest of us enjoy the aspects that "don't matter" like camera resolution, sensors, good software features, expandable memory, removable battery, screen size, headphone quality, Mobeam tech, and better hardware all around.
But you can record some really fly videos at the Slipknot concert, so there's that.
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Lol this isn't an armed conflict. I would hate to some of you guys in a real tense situation. Honestly if someone has made their decision do you really think what you just said matters? The reason I didn't go s4 because I have the note 10.1 and I just don't care for it or touchwiz. But I still follow what samsung does because THEY do matter.
Competition is good. And if Samsung put together a product I liked I would buy it.
The fanboyism in all the forums is just comical.
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It's just way too hard for some of them to accept that in some circles the One is being touted as the better phone.
What the SGS 4 wins at, it's a fractional win. What the One wins at, it's almost a night and day difference. IE: Speaker quality, call quality, audio capturing capability & design. And no amount of crying is going to change that.
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There are two reasons why a member comes to a forum
1. He is somewhat interested in the phone of that forum ( I never visited the HTC one v forum for example cause I'm not interested in it)
2. Cause he/she wants to troll ( I wouldn't troll at a One V forum cause it doesn't compare with the S4 for example)
One of these 2 reasons brought you here, either you are secretly in love with the S4 or you're a troll which means you fear the S4.
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Lol this isn't an armed conflict. I would hate to some of you guys in a real tense situation. Honestly if someone has made their decision do you really think what you just said matters? The reason I didn't go s4 because I have the note 10.1 and I just don't care for it or touchwiz. But I still follow what samsung does because THEY do matter.
Competition is good. And if Samsung put together a product I liked I would buy it.
The fanboyism in all the forums is just comical.
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It is. But i m curious to know why you quoted this user post and not the one that got quoted cause he kinda was the fan or troll. After all this is a Samsung forum so obviously most folks here are pro Samsung. By any means if folks want to bash Samsung, do it in your forum ( not you in particular but in general). If you do it here, you can be certain there will be replies.
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Lol this isn't an armed conflict. I would hate to some of you guys in a real tense situation. Honestly if someone has made their decision do you really think what you just said matters? The reason I didn't go s4 because I have the note 10.1 and I just don't care for it or touchwiz. But I still follow what samsung does because THEY do matter.
Competition is good. And if Samsung put together a product I liked I would buy it.
The fanboyism in all the forums is just comical.
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I don't care to change his mind, really. Just pulling up the facts; you can nip at the heel all you want but competition usually implies near-equal standing, and last I checked, there's a 157 billion dollar difference between the two companies, and one is posting poor results this quarter while the other is gaining. You're right, you fanboys are pretty comical.
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There are two reasons why a member comes to a forum
1. He is somewhat interested in the phone of that forum ( I never visited the HTC one v forum for example cause I'm not interested in it)
2. Cause he/she wants to troll ( I wouldn't troll at a One V forum cause it doesn't compare with the S4 for example)
One of these 2 reasons brought you here, either you are secretly in love with the S4 or you're a troll which means you fear the S4.
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It is. But i m curious to know why you quoted this user post and not the one that got quoted cause he kinda was the fan or troll. After all this is a Samsung forum so obviously most folks here are pro Samsung. By any means if folks want to bash Samsung, do it in your forum ( not you in particular but in general). If you do it here, you can be certain there will be replies.
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Dude you were all OVER the one forums. And it's not trolling if people are respectful. And really with all due respect I'll quote who I quote.
I've worked with Samsung devs. I've taught more than a few members how to theme over here. So I've earned my opinion. The fanboyism on the one and the s4 is out of control.
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Dude you were all OVER the one forums. And it's not trolling if people are respectful. And really with all due respect I'll quote who I quote.
I've worked with Samsung devs. I've taught more than a few members how to theme over here. So I've earned my opinion. The fanboyism on the one and the s4 is out of control.
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Yes. You know why? Cause I like the One. Have you seen me bashing the One? No. Everyone that knows me Here knows that I plan to buy it at some point but I happen to prefer the S4.
You can quote whoever you want of course but you don't seem as unbiased as you make it sound, that's my point.
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This may be an obscure question, but alongside my HTC one I'm getting a phone next week with the soul purpose of being an all weather snow / underwater device. I want an S4 active but am not convinced it'll handle underwater as well as advertised.
Looking for cases to help fortify the active is proving difficult as that would be my first choice. Looking into it I'm of the opinion now an iPhone 5s with a hitgear pro or incipio atlas would be much more reliable way to dive into the ocean - cellphone in hand.
You guys have any opinions on which route I should go?
Thank you
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The fact it's an iPhone is going to be a deal breaker for 99% of people on here... And rightly so, it seems like a waste of cash to me, you're buying a $600 phone, switching OSes, for a water-proof case. If I were you, I'd definitely look at other options like the Experia Z, or, take a deeper look at the Active, last I read it was supposed to be water-proof to 10M.
The phone is free. I posted this here because I honestly dont like iPhones, even though Ive owned several. I love the bigger screen and the fact I dont need to do so many "other things," to customize my phone to the level I want it at.
That said - a smaller screen and iOS7 isnt a deal breaker for me if it ultimately means a phone I can dive into the ocean with and play in the shorebreak with. I want an "indestructable" phone... at least one that is nigh bulletproof when it comes to the ocean. I bodysurf, surf and boat a lot and having a phone I could essentially have in my pocket all the time is a very attractive deal for me.
I hope someone can point me to a product or phone (at&t) that can do that for me. No matter what I'll have my decision and new phone by next friday... and I just want to make the most educated and fool proof decision for that.
Bump?
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I'm starting to look for a new phone and the Essential has piqued my interest, but, it seems like there have been quite a few start up problems associated with new products.
So, since the World Mobile Congress is happening at the end of the month and Essential has a spot reserved in it, I was wondering if there has been any leaks, rumors or news associated with it? I was hoping for news of an Essential 2 or a ph-2? New release? Anything?
Thx.
Probably just new colors and accessories. They have their hands full dealing with the PH-1.
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Maybe they will showcase new PH-1 accessories that they have no intention of ever making. LOL
Just maybe, Essential is winding down their beta project (PH-1) and is focused on their first truly production phone.
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Just maybe, Essential is winding down their beta project (PH-1) and is focused on their first truly production phone.
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Maybe... Although with this phone flopping the way it did, I don't know how much I would invest in the next phone if I were them or their investors... The PH-1 was a failure. They lost money on every unit they sold. If Andy had not raised so much capital to keep them afloat, they would have closed their doors by now.
The vision was ambitious and great. The execution, not so much.
There are a lot of B.S. articles out there no doubt, and there were some growing pains... But I wouldn't give up my PH-1 for any other phone right now. I love it... no case since launch, and still looks great, camera is pretty good now. battery life spectacular, Looking forward to whatever they have to offer next
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There are a lot of B.S. articles out there no doubt, and there were some growing pains... But I wouldn't give up my PH-1 for any other phone right now. I love it... no case since launch, and still looks great, camera is pretty good now. battery life spectacular, Looking forward to whatever they have to offer next
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I like most things about it. I am just annoyed at bugs, and the progression of updates isn't as good as I would have hoped. Yes, they put out 16 camera updates over 5 months, but that isn't exactly a ringing endorsement... that they HAD to put out so many updates just to get the camera up to "mediocre" status... LOL
Like anything, if it works for you and makes you happy, enjoy it! I am just on the fence with it...
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Maybe... Although with this phone flopping the way it did, I don't know how much I would invest in the next phone if I were them or their investors... The PH-1 was a failure. They lost money on every unit they sold. If Andy had not raised so much capital to keep them afloat, they would have closed their doors by now.
The vision was ambitious and great. The execution, not so much.
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Failure?
You need to define failure.
I have a friend on Sprint that has hated just about every phone she had Android and iPhone.
She absolutely loves the PH-1.
I have a PH-1 and it is by far the best phone I've owned.
Here is my list that I've owned:
SCH-i600W (Windows flip phone)
SCH-i760
Treo 700W
BB Storm 1
BB Storm 2
DroidX
Droid Bionic
Droid Razr
Droid Razr Maxx
Galaxy S4
LG G3
iPhone 6 plus
Nexus 6P
LG G6
Essential PH-1
There are some true failures in that list.
If you want to base success on how many sold you might be right.
What they learned though was how difficult it is to launch a device.
They leaned to roll out updates.
They learned how they need to support customers.
They learned how to partner, although they picked a crappy one (Sprint).
But overall as a new player in the high end market, I wouldn't call them a failure.
Failure defined by sales numbers and how much money they lost on this phone.
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Yeah, few failures on that list. I have had a few that were not on the list as well, I am betting that we all have.
One thing that I will say, and this is based on several tech articles that I have read in the past couple weeks, is that the market is changing a bit. It's not the wide open market that it was in a lot of ways, even just a few years ago. One article pointed out that a company like OnePlus, got really lucky. They hit at the right time, but for someone else to do it again in 2017/18 faces more challenges.
Oh well, time will tell I guess.
I love new products and the more there are, the more competition there is. I don't want a world made up of just Apple and Samsung. But we are gonna have to sift through a few lemons to find that occasional diamond in the rough...
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Considering that Google only sold ~4 Million of Pixel and Pixel 2 phones of all types last year, calling the Essential a complete failure might be a bit premature.
The sales numbers might be low, but I think that this is just indicative of how difficult it is to compete with Apple and Samsung and nothing else.
I like innovative an new products.
No matter what they say about Essential, they were first to the party with a phone that had a huge screen and minimal bezels.
They have a build quality and hand feel second to none.
I don't plan on replacing this phone for a while.
I only with I could get a Poetic Affinity case. That is my favorite case and I've had one on my last three phones.
To be fair, 80k is a lot less than 4 mill. Lol
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To be fair, 80k is a lot less than 4 mill. Lol
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88K.
But think about the size of the companies and length of time in the market.
Google had all year and only sold 4 Million. That's 333K per month. That's a rally low number.
Essential started shipping in the second half of the year and was an unknown company.
So if you put it into perspective. We don't know if the company is a failure or not, is all I'm saying.
The time on the market is not statistically significant enough to draw any conclusion.
I just know I like my PH-1.
88k shipped, not sold. Plus, how many returns?
Sorry guys. Didn't mean to start a phone bashing thread.
No bashing. The situation is what it is.
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Sorry guys. Didn't mean to start a phone bashing thread.
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https://www.cnet.com/news/essential-teases-something/?ftag=COS-05-10aaa0e&linkId=48081019
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Hmm....
So this is the choice i have. start giving out warnings/infractions or you all have a civilized conversation without name callings of any sort or bashing each other ?
You all don't need to reply just answer yourself and proceed as i know what i would be doing next if this continues.
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I hope the company survives. Overall I am pretty happy with my PH-1. I much prefer it to any Scamsung product. And everywhere you go, Samsung and Apple are the only choices. That needs to end. Can't find an HTC anywhere to put my hands on despite it being critically acclaimed as one of the best devices of 2017. Pathetic. I asked about the PH-1 at Best Buy and the employee said they might have 1 in the back but there just wasn't enough display space. They had about 30 Samsung and iPhones on display though.....
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I hope the company survives. Overall I am pretty happy with my PH-1. I much prefer it to any Scamsung product. And everywhere you go, Samsung and Apple are the only choices. That needs to end. Can't find an HTC anywhere to put my hands on despite it being critically acclaimed as one of the best devices of 2017. Pathetic. I asked about the PH-1 at Best Buy and the employee said they might have 1 in the back but there just wasn't enough display space. They had about 30 Samsung and iPhones on display though.....
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I like the my PH-1 and you'll need to pry it from my cold dead hands.
I can't think of any other phone I like better.
I just wish that Poetic made the Affinity case for the PH-1. :crying:
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Considering that Google only sold ~4 Million of Pixel and Pixel 2 phones of all types last year, calling the Essential a complete failure might be a bit premature.
The sales numbers might be low, but I think that this is just indicative of how difficult it is to compete with Apple and Samsung and nothing else.
I like innovative an new products.
No matter what they say about Essential, they were first to the party with a phone that had a huge screen and minimal bezels.
They have a build quality and hand feel second to none.
I don't plan on replacing this phone for a while.
I only with I could get a Poetic Affinity case. That is my favorite case and I've had one on my last three phones.
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Considering that officially they only sell in the US...
It is a new product. I doubt anybody would expect too a million phones in 3 months or something.
Has some issues, yes. First gen stuff always does. Even second and third gen do.
Works Ok for a first gen. Does what I need to do.
I don't have brand loyalty to anything, may buy something else in a few months. Maybe even a PH-2...