Only For Hardcore Gamers: Death Run!! - Android Apps and Games

Hi everyone,
DeathRun is hard, difficult, extreme!!
You control a cube in a crazy run full of obstacles. You can only jump and crouch, just a little mistake and you must restart from the beginning.
You will die, die, die and die again and again, trying to beat your record.
If you liked Line Runner or Impossible Game, you will love it, because it has the stile of the first and the difficulty of the second.
I'm a new developer, i made only two games. My first one was bad, but this went out very good, so i hope you will share, play and lose your mind on it^^
I really like some advice, thanks!
ps. sorry if my english is bad, i'm not english^^
PlayStore name : DeathRun
Developer: Kapo Games
email: [email protected]

Please add a link to play store or upload to mediafire or something , I couldnt find it in the market
sony xperia ray
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matgras said:
Please add a link to play store or upload to mediafire or something , I couldnt find it in the market
sony xperia ray
ics 4.0.4 rooted
stock rom
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Here you are:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...esult#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNlZi5EZWF0aFJ1biJd

A really fun and hard game. Reminds me of the impossible game but this is harder! Thanks.

thanks!
iKarido said:
A really fun and hard game. Reminds me of the impossible game but this is harder! Thanks.
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Thanks to you, i really appreciate that someone like it...i did it all alone and i'm an android developer only from a mounth...people like you are the first reason why i will continue to do it and try to become better. thanks!

I don't know if this is available or not. But it would be pretty sweet if the colors and music change after reaching a certain amount of blocks (50?) Anyway really liking the game alot

thanks for the hint!
iKarido said:
I don't know if this is available or not. But it would be pretty sweet if the colors and music change after reaching a certain amount of blocks (50?) Anyway really liking the game alot
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I did this with my previous game, in this one i focused only on two color to mantain the style...now i'm working to easier difficulty, when i will finish it i could make deathrun 2 with better grafic and effects...i could also insert a money system to buy different costume for the cube(and the blocks)

Looks like a great way to spend my free time, thanks

Really nice and simple game. Appreciate that
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I Did it!
iKarido said:
I don't know if this is available or not. But it would be pretty sweet if the colors and music change after reaching a certain amount of blocks (50?) Anyway really liking the game alot
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I changed a lot of thing, now speed will increase after a certain amount of block, and the color of the game change...now it's funnier and also harder^^

Simple but a fun game, really hard for some people lol
Keep up the good work bro
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Thanks man!
ofteno said:
Simple but a fun game, really hard for some people lol
Keep up the good work bro
Sent from Holy Terra
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Thanks man, glad you appreciate it!

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Tiny Dragon [Game]

Hi!
I´m making an game called Tiny Dragon and it´s pretty much like the Tiny Wings on iOS. I have already done all th artwork and sprites the game needs but the problem I´m having is that I don´t know how to code, So I thought that I might find someone who could be intrested in this and could help me with this.
I also would be needing some help with game music & sounds but it´s not so important yet.
Also here´s some screens that show how everything should look like:
http://img18.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=gamescreen.png
So if you´re intrested in to code this game then let me know.
I could probably help with sound, not with coding though
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marko! said:
I could probably help with sound, not with coding though
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That´s great!
I´ll send you an PM to tell you what kinda sounds I´m needing.
Please add some big changes because otherwise it will be all deja vu again.
muumia4 said:
Please add some big changes because otherwise it will be all deja vu again.
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What kinda chages you would like to see?
´Cause I´m thinking of adding an short fly when two fingers are pressed at the screen and I´m thinking of adding an two themes for the game, one with running away of darkness and one with running away of snow ´cause winter is coming
Any game ideas are welcome
umm have you seen this?
JRK-Scope said:
umm have you seen this?
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Yes, I have seen that
And I didn´t like that game so much, it just feels bit boring, it doesn´t have any nice looking sprites, like the dragon it´s looking boring, and the world doesn´t have any nice colors.
That´s why I´m trying to make an own one which would be much better.
I like your art a lot, it's the most important thing the android clones of tiny wings are lacking.
when I had iphone I used to play that game a lot, but I don't like any of the ports for android.
If you could match the music in some way, and the whole atmosphere it would be great.
also try to add a autumn theme, with leaves blowing and brownish color
good luck!
engwee said:
I like your art a lot, it's the most important thing the android clones of tiny wings are lacking.
when I had iphone I used to play that game a lot, but I don't like any of the ports for android.
If you could match the music in some way, and the whole atmosphere it would be great.
also try to add a autumn theme, with leaves blowing and brownish color
good luck!
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Thanks!
I don´t like the ports on android neither, they just don´t have great art work and that makes them boring.
And trust me, I´ll make the music and whole atmosphere work together.
Hmm.. That just gave me an great idea for the game, making all the seasons to the game.
I´ve made an thread for this on the androidforums too.
http://androidforums.com/android-games/442015-tiny-dragon-game.html
I´m hoping that it helps me to find coder faster.
So if you are intrested and got some coding skills then please contact me.
kevindevil said:
What kinda chages you would like to see?
´Cause I´m thinking of adding an short fly when two fingers are pressed at the screen and I´m thinking of adding an two themes for the game, one with running away of darkness and one with running away of snow ´cause winter is coming
Any game ideas are welcome
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Well something really special so it wouldnt be another exact copy of dragon fly or that sort of games...
Maybe some visual upgrades?
Like when you upgrade something it will be seen on character.
Some sort of bigger story. (makes an option to make sequels) maybe something about that darkness you were telling about.
Easter eggs.
Some sharp hills that you need to jump over.
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any luck with this?
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Well something really special so it wouldnt be another exact copy of dragon fly or that sort of games...
Maybe some visual upgrades?
Like when you upgrade something it will be seen on character.
Some sort of bigger story. (makes an option to make sequels) maybe something about that darkness you were telling about.
Easter eggs.
Some sharp hills that you need to jump over.
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Hmm.. some of those are pretty good ideas and I´ve had some of similiar ideas in my head too, I´ll see what I can do with these ideas.
But trust me it won´t be excatly same kinda game like the others, it will have it´s own unique things that the others don´t have.
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any luck with this?
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Well, I´m still looking for game developer.
But I´m gonna ask one guy, but it might take some time to him starting the coding ´cause he´s having some trouble with his life at the moment.

[GAME 2.1+][FREE] Crazy Lift Manager

Hi guys,
This is first game my first game for Android so pls don't be too cruel. Game works on Android 2.1 and higher and you can download it for completely FREE.
Crazy Lift Manager is an action strategy game. Your task in game is to bring people down as soon as possible. Be fast, as people get impacient very quickly and you can lose your job anytime
Google Play Link:
https://market.android.com/developer?pub=extracrazy
Amazon AppStore:
Crazy Lift Manager
I would really appreciate your comments.
I just had a quick try. Quite addictive. Easy to play.
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thx m8. nice 2 hear that u like it
new update with more changes of difficulty level. now game is much more challenging.
fixed also bug that could cause "force close" on some HTC phones.
wanna also thank u guys for all good comments
thaanks man
Just downloaded, cool game Can see how it could be addictive!
One minor piece of feedback, on your help screen, on the second to last item "Touch a floor and lift goes there. Lift can't change direction when on the move. Faces show how many people is board." might sound better as: " Touch a floor and the lift goes there. Lift can't change direction when on the move. Faces show how many people are aboard."
Good work though!
hi guys. thx for feedback. i really appreciate it.
Faces show how many people is board.
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Good advice, ty.
currently i'm working on huge update. wanna add more animations, special effects, sounds and make it more challenging.
if u have some crazy ideas or wanna see something in the game u can write it here. if this suit to the game ill build this for u and ill place your name under the CREDITS
huge update is coming 2day. many aspects realted to balance of the game was changed, also we added new animations, sounds. We were working also on usability.
ty man cool game
downloading, cool game and i'll see how it could be!
thx guys for all good words. i couldn't even expect that there is so many kind people out there
new update on the market
whats inside:
- Many changes realted to balance
- Added new sounds
- Added new animations
- Added new difficulty level after day 14
- Few changes in usability
current version 1.2.0
Aww that's really gr8 app
Btw just for info,
this app is listed i the XDA news portal !
Suggestion :
New tutorial ...
to play the game there is no such for now
Nice little game I must say! Threatens to become addictive ^^
Oh, and kudos for only asking the rights the app really needs. Too many apps ask for rights they should never be granted.
Keen on going
thanks guys
this app is listed i the XDA news portal
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WOW I was't expecting anything like that
New tutorial ...
to play the game there is no such for now
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I tried to explain every aspect of the game under the help section. did u check that? but anyway ill prepare new tutorial soon
kinda bs that you need to have the fully upgraded elevator to fix broken elevators. Gets annoying really quick when two elevators break right after another and the third one doesn't even have one upgrade. Upgrades should also carry over between days.
Gets annoying really quick when two elevators break right after another and the third one doesn't even have one upgrade. Upgrades should also carry over between days.
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im thinking about this. definitely game needs some changes in difficulty and im working on it. i think after next update you'll be pleased
great game, ill be sure to keep this one on my phone, thanks dev

[GAME][2.2+] Boomlings

Hey everyone!
Just wanted to let you know that a game I made called Boomlings is now live on Google Play!
Check it out if you have time, would love to get some feedback. (Don't worry, its free!)
Google Play: http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.robtopx.boomlings
Awesome game, love the animation!
Zhenmuron said:
Hey everyone!
Just wanted to let you know that a game I made called Boomlings is now live on Google Play!
Check it out if you have time, would love to get some feedback. (Don't worry, its free!)
Google Play: http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.robtopx.boomlings
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Fun game and promo vid!
I have a questions, could you tell me what you used to create the video?
What video editing software?
Thanks
Jrcon said:
Fun game and promo vid!
I have a questions, could you tell me what you used to create the video?
What video editing software?
Thanks
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Thank you, appreciate it!
I used Adobe After Effects to create the promo video, worked on it for about a day.
If anyone has any questions just shoot, love talking about game stuff ^^
How long did you work on the game?
norumzen said:
How long did you work on the game?
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Boomlings took me about 4 months from start to finish
Update with a few reviews and a mention in The Guardian top 30 mobile games of the week!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/appsblog/2012/nov/01/best-mobile-games-need-for-speed-bubble-island
http://www.playandroid.com/blog/boomlings-is-out-now/
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/brain_puzzle/boomlings_dairk.html
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.robtopx.boomlings
Boomlings included in the 35 Best New Android Games on Android Police
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/06/35-best-new-android-games-from-the-last-2-weeks-102412-11612/
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I really love this game :good:
Thanks! You warm the heart of a small developer ^^
Very cool game! I was already a big fan of Bejeweled, but your game actually puts a bit more strategy into it which makes it more difficult and fun!
Great job!
pinoymutt said:
Very cool game! I was already a big fan of Bejeweled, but your game actually puts a bit more strategy into it which makes it more difficult and fun!
Great job!
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Thank you, glad you like it! Working on a new game mode as well so hopefully will be interesting
Great job!
Thanks =) If anyone has any requests/comments, would love to hear it!
Just read a review of boomlings on playandroid, nice! What is the new game mode going to be??
norumzen said:
Just read a review of boomlings on playandroid, nice! What is the new game mode going to be??
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I am still trying out a few different formulas for the new mode so it's hard to say. But what I can say is that it will be a completely new experience, and hopefully a lot of fun! :laugh:
Ran across this game in the play store and been playin it ever since
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Wow, thought I was more or less invisible in the play store ^^ Thanks
Awesome work man, you are even on the headlines nice :laugh:.Will try this game soon, keep it going.
This game looks awesome, concept is pretty simple but you took care of all details and you polished very carefully all the animations and artwork.
Did you do all that game all alone including sounds and graphics?
Great job though, i love when a developer goes indie :victory:

[FREE][GAME][2.3+] SteamCopter

I've recently finished my first game for android and I need opinions from people other than my family and friends, who can only praise me.
SteamCopter is a Super Hexagon, Flappy Bird and Spelunky fusion wanna-be. I've just finished promotional video, so you don't have to(but I highly encourage you to!)play it to check what's it all about.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kierek560.steamcopter.android
http://www.amazon.com/kierek560-Ste...F8&qid=1424261697&sr=8-1&keywords=steamcopter
http://apps.opera.com/en_pl/steamcopter.html
http://slideme.org/application/steamcopter
will test it
Flatric said:
will test it
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Thank you. Besides gameplay, I've spent long time thinking about how to place ads to make them unobtrusive for users, could look at this aspect and express your opinion?
Kierek said:
Thank you. Except gameplay, I've spent long time thinking about how to place ads to make them unobtrusive for users, could look at this aspect and express your opinion?
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The ads aren't anoynig but the control of the helicopter is strange ...or I'm to stupid Btw if you tell me how I could correct your german translations I could help you with them, at some points you chose the wrong words
Flatric said:
The ads aren't anoynig but the control of the helicopter is strange ...or I'm to stupid Btw if you tell me how I could correct your german translations I could help you with them, at some points you chose the wrong words
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I've sent you the files through PM, thanks for the help.
Could you tell me what did you mean by strange controls? I wanted it to be hard, but not "hard to play", if it makes any sense.
It's a really nice game if you want to kill some minutes. It's fun to play it and you really want to improve your highscore. In my opinon it's a little bit harder than flappy bird or something like this but everybody who visits this thread should give it a try
At first I had problems with the controls, but that was a failure with my current custom Rom and had nothing to do with the app.
it looks like typical good run/arcade game, but static backgrounds isn't cool. IMHO
Great game ! It is very well done, with attention to details like performance, music, graphics. This is not common in many 2D android games. I heavily recommend trying it !
good game, but i really think you should improve the graphic, maybe 8-bit
Flatric said:
It's a really nice game if you want to kill some minutes. It's fun to play it and you really want to improve your highscore. In my opinon it's a little bit harder than flappy bird or something like this but everybody who visits this thread should give it a try
At first I had problems with the controls, but that was a failure with my current custom Rom and had nothing to do with the app.
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I'm glad to hear that you liked it. About it being harder than flappy bird... It wasn't my intention, but it can be. It's a little harder to learn, but when you get the grasp of it, mechanics are easy (but still hard to master!). Also, I'm pretty sure, that it can be a lot more rewarding than flappy bird.
hadmaerd said:
it looks like typical good run/arcade game, but static backgrounds isn't cool. IMHO
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I'd really like to have dynamic backgrounds but well... my budget was lacking. Maybe in the sequel
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Great game ! It is very well done, with attention to details like performance, music, graphics. This is not common in many 2D android games. I heavily recommend trying it !
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That was my intention. I couldn't even dream about making some industry capsizing masterpiece, so at least I wanted to make polished and playable game.
Thank you will download
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Hey there, I tried your game out and I'd like to share my feedback with you.
It took me a few minutes to realize that I could tap the right side of the screen to keep the copter up in the air. Maybe have a little "tutorial" at the beginning explaining the controls? Or some kind of button/visual to show that the right screen is for keeping the copter up.
After a second run, I did noticed your "how to play" button on the menu. Maybe you should display that at the beginning game for first time users.
You don't seem to have back buttons for "how to play" and "high scores". I have to exit the app to get out of it.
I hate to be that guy, but I find the full screen ads a little intrusive for this kind of game. The banner ad on the corner is fine though.
Could be a fun game with a bit more polishing. Mainly with the controls, and the UX. Good luck with your game!
Kierek said:
I'd really like to have dynamic backgrounds but well... my budget was lacking. Maybe in the sequel
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Anyway that's nice game) Good luck with sequel)
I'm gonna try it!
hrishikeshgramani said:
Thank you will download
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Anyway that's nice game) Good luck with sequel)
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I'm gonna try it!
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Thanks!
xodene said:
Hey there, I tried your game out and I'd like to share my feedback with you.
It took me a few minutes to realize that I could tap the right side of the screen to keep the copter up in the air. Maybe have a little "tutorial" at the beginning explaining the controls? Or some kind of button/visual to show that the right screen is for keeping the copter up.
After a second run, I did noticed your "how to play" button on the menu. Maybe you should display that at the beginning game for first time users.
You don't seem to have back buttons for "how to play" and "high scores". I have to exit the app to get out of it.
I hate to be that guy, but I find the full screen ads a little intrusive for this kind of game. The banner ad on the corner is fine though.
Could be a fun game with a bit more polishing. Mainly with the controls, and the UX. Good luck with your game!
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Thank you for your feedback, I will definitely post update soon.
About the back button on howto and highscores screens... There is one, in the left bottom, but it looks like I need to make it more visible.
I will do something about this interstitial ad.
Kierek said:
Thanks!
Thank you for your feedback, I will definitely post update soon.
About the back button on howto and highscores screens... There is one, in the left bottom, but it looks like I need to make it more visible.
I will do something about this interstitial ad.
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Oh okay, yeah I must have not seen them. One last thing is try animating some of the UI elements by "tweening". Like, maybe the game over dialog can slide up to the middle of the screen. Things like that will make the game feel more polished. Keep it up!
SteamCopter has just been updated, here's the changelog:
- new back button in menu
- updated German translation
- menu HowTo appearing before first play
- fewer interstitial ads
xodene said:
Oh okay, yeah I must have not seen them. One last thing is try animating some of the UI elements by "tweening". Like, maybe the game over dialog can slide up to the middle of the screen. Things like that will make the game feel more polished. Keep it up!
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Thanks, I will look into it.
I found the time to play it, and I was impressed by how the music complimented the art style. It gave your game a nice little aesthetic.
At first It was difficult, but after a few minutes of playing I got a little better.
I was also initially confused about how to play in the different worlds that are shown on the screenshots.
That was until I discovered that you had to collect a certain amount of stars to open the next world.
This actually gave me more incentive to continue getting better.
My only (minor) complaint is the backgrounds. They look great, but they're a bit static.
I couldn't help but feel that I was playng in front of a stage. But again, this is very minor and easy to look past for me.
Overall great game with great production value!
BTW, I love steampunk, so sorry if my review is a bit biased!
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I found the time to play it, and I was impressed by how the music complimented the art style. It gave your game a nice little aesthetic.
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Graphical One said:
At first It was difficult, but after a few minutes of playing I got a little better.
I was also initially confused about how to play in the different worlds that are shown on the screenshots.
That was until I discovered that you had to collect a certain amount of stars to open the next world.
This actually gave me more incentive to continue getting better.
My only (minor) complaint is the backgrounds. They look great, but they're a bit static.
I couldn't help but feel that I was playng in front of a stage. But again, this is very minor and easy to look past for me.
Overall great game with great production value!
BTW, I love steampunk, so sorry if my review is a bit biased!
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What an uplifting post, thanks! I'm really glad that you like it.
I'd really love to do something about backgrounds stillness, but well... it's not entirely dependent on me.
What do you guys think about integrating Google Play Games Services(leaderboards, achievements)?

[Game][4.4+] School project: Tim the 2D platformer

Tim is an ordinary 2D platformer that me and my classmates developed as an exam project at school. We would like to get some feedback on the game to improve it further.
We have already got the game up on google play store so I will provide a link to that. I will also provide a link to our website where you can find information and downloads for both pc and android.
[Link 1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Timmage.Tim&hl=en
[Link 2] https://timmage.com/Tim.php
Also there are some screenshots from the games attached.
[Update] Tim 1.1.1 is live!
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Ok so I tried out your game so here is some feedback
1) The 2nd level its too hard for players to find the exit , thats why the feedback isn't coming in for you. Thats a shame because the 3rd level purple theme is pretty good.
2) Make the 1st couple of levels shorter so that players get used to finishing levels.
3) Add enemies to the levels to make the game more interesting.
Thats just a few tips there is more but this is a good start. Don't expect feedback until your game has more to it. You can try my games and pick up some idea's for your game.
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Ok so I tried out your game so here is some feedback
1) The 2nd level its too hard for players to find the exit , thats why the feedback isn't coming in for you. Thats a shame because the 3rd level purple theme is pretty good.
2) Make the 1st couple of levels shorter so that players get used to finishing levels.
3) Add enemies to the levels to make the game more interesting.
Thats just a few tips there is more but this is a good start. Don't expect feedback until your game has more to it. You can try my games and pick up some idea's for your game.
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Thank you for the feedback. We are curently working on a AI for enemys so that the game will be a bit harder so that we can make the levels shorter. Will also try out your game. Thanks alot!
Also for the people who try out the game and get stuck on the second level. My guess is that it' son level 2 at the undergap of the floating island you just hold left on the ramp and fly so far to the left as possible there you will find the portal. We will move it closer in the next update
Good game. Keep it Up.
[Update]
We will soon upload an update for Tim on Android and PC where there now is enemys with AI! so the game will be a bit more challenging.
Well we may not have gotten much feedback but we are soon on 100 downloads
Well, I have played the game.
I like it, worth an A+.
Hey naknul,
I like your game! I know that it's much work to create games like this.
For me it looks weird, that his head "walks" through platforms, but he is also in able to stand on it. Do you know what I mean? But maybe I'm just confused because it works different in Mario
Keep it up! :good:
Social Sounds said:
Hey naknul,
I like your game! I know that it's much work to create games like this.
For me it looks weird, that his head "walks" through platforms, but he is also in able to stand on it. Do you know what I mean? But maybe I'm just confused because it works different in Mario
Keep it up! :good:
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Ah yeah i see what you mean. It's most because he can jump up through the platforms from underneath.
Really nice job! I appreciate people making any kind of game solely because I don't know how to make one (yet!)
The background music in the third level stop being "background" music. It gets too high and becomes the main thing you hear which is a bit odd.
Other than that, really nice game!
rirozizo said:
Really nice job! I appreciate people making any kind of game solely because I don't know how to make one (yet!)
The background music in the third level stop being "background" music. It gets too high and becomes the main thing you hear which is a bit odd.
Other than that, really nice game!
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Yeah i know what you mean but since the song is a bit disturbing it fit so well into the map so well wanted players to recognize it. Thanks for the support
You're on XDA-TV btw:
rirozizo said:
You're on XDA-TV btw:
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I saw that! We couldn't be more happy about that!
rirozizo said:
You're on XDA-TV btw:
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Is it okay if we use your video on our website so showcase the game?
naknul said:
Is it okay if we use your video on our website so showcase the game?
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as long as you link to the video, yes.
don't put it as a stabdalone video please.
rirozizo said:
as long as you link to the video, yes.
don't put it as a stabdalone video please.
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of course i will add some credit to your chanel and use the code from youtube itself.
rirozizo said:
as long as you link to the video, yes.
don't put it as a stabdalone video please.
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Is this good enough?
naknul said:
Is this good enough?
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that's actually great! thank you

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