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[Q] Xperia Play OTA Updates

If rooted would I even need the OTA updates? Not "planning" on changing the ROM just rooting device for superuser rights. Does that still void warranty if ROM is not changed? I couldn't find anything on Rooting/Void Warranty on Verizon website..

romtang said:
If rooted would I even need the OTA updates? Not "planning" on changing the ROM just rooting device for superuser rights. Does that still void warranty if ROM is not changed? I couldn't find anything on Rooting/Void Warranty on Verizon website..
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technically, the mere rooting voided it. my opinion is, if you can hide the fact you rooted it successfully, obviously any problems cant be due to root access, considering the root should be wiped if you use the "repair" in pc companion after it says "your phone is up to date" and the rom reinstalled, so any further problems must be hardware. therefore, root must not be the stem of the problem (unless you over-clock too much with a diff kernel and burn out the cpu or something.) so my suggestion is, use "CWM-installer" or whatever it is (the app specifically states it is for xperia devices) and back up your phone now. just in case you need to use the "repair" so you can get everything back. i havent done this yet, but from what i understand, this should work with even a softbrick. just make sure you unroot BEFORE you take it to verizon if screen breaks or something. just make a backup, remove the sd, and factory reset it or use pc companion repair and say you had software problems recently and reset it to fix it, then the stupid thing had to spite you twice and break physically too! lol. anyways, best of luck!

Voiding my warranty with root of a HTC one

Hi a couple of months ago I purchased a HTC one from vodafone Australia it came with warranty but I'm sick of my HTC sense with vodafones apps installed and I want to root but when I look online all I can find is that it may void my warranty and there are tales of people handing there phones in whilst being rooted and having there device fixed if anyone can help me It would be much appreciate because I want to know what part of rooting will void my warranty and what will not .
Thanks

ok what it Means is that if u root or unlock bootloader ur warrenty will be void as said it will not cover any damage on ur phone if it breaks or goes Down when or under rooting the phone if the phone under any way needs to go to service u need to unroot it or Lock bootloader Again before sending it back to service otherwise the is no warrenty there will cover the damage no mater what the error is on the phone
so here is u can easy root it an install custom roms an use rootexplore on it
BUT MAKE SURE THAT IT IS UNROOTED BEFORE SENDING IT FORE SERVICE

Thank you so much I just needed a straight sender and you gave it thanks I'm just reallysick of not having root and I just needed to know if I could just unroot it when sending it back or if they could detect that I did that.

how to root moto g without unlocking bootloader?

how to root moto g without unlock bootloader?

Right now there is no solution. Maybe one day, but don't hold your breath.

ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?

When the bootloader is unlocked there is a warning when you boot, but there's a solution published in these forums for how to revert to the normal Motorola boot screen. You can relock the bootloader but it doesn't restore the warranty as Motorola have a list of which phones have been unlocked.
However in Europe unlocking the bootloader does not invalidate your warranty, regardless of what Motorola might say. You also have an automatic 2-year warranty on all purchases.

raniero1 said:
ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
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To unlock Bootloader you have to submit "fastboot oem get_unlock_data" on Motorola's website and you'll get the unlock code. If you do so they have your device in their database. Secondary it is flagged in the device itself if i remember right.

ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
I know that to unlock sony phone you have to get from their website also a code, but that dont get you warranty off, in italy ive sent the phone in assistance and they didnt even check that database
anyway i hope there will be a way to root without losing warranty in near future, like for samsung flashing prerooted stock firmware
i just want root to restore data from a titanium backup for 1 app from my previous android phone, nothing more

raniero1 said:
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
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I'm not sure with this, but i think, in Europe you'll have full warrenty anyway on the Hardware as long as you did not destroy it by a software failure. So for e.g. if you unlock Bootloader only and your screen will be dead later which is not caused by a software modification you'll have full warrenty on the Hardware. But if it comes hard, it might be difficult to deliver a proper proof to Motorola that it is a manufacturers fault.

This is the chat i had right now with motorola germany
Ben: Hallo, mein Name ist Ben. Wie kann ich Ihnen helfen?
me: Hello, can i just ask you a question in english?
Ben: Sure, how can I help?
me: Thank you very much, i just would like to know if phone unlocking, about moto g, void warranty
me: With phone unlocking i mean bootload unlocking
Ben: Yes, this will void the warranty.
me: Ok thank you ben
me: goodbye
Ben: You are very welcome, bye for now.

This is also written in their licence Agreement. I doubt that it is applicable to EU law in this way. But as i said i don't know for sure, I'm not a lawyer. They can write and say a lot if the day is long and of course they will not give you any legal advice which will be against their own terms.. If you ask them they will always answer what they want. Terms can sometimes be futile. Maybe you can ask in a lawyers Forum. Many more will be interested in that
EDIT: In Germany you have the Terms Gewährleistung und Garantie. It can be that the Gewährleistung will be lost because it is voluntary given to you by the vendor. But with my above mentioned Situation the Garantie will be still applicable as in aboves case, at least in Germany. But as i said I don't know for sure. This is what i read in the last weeks about this.
NOT SURE IF IT IS REALLY LIKE THAT!!!
EDIT: If you can understand German you might read this. Maybe I'll find this also in English.
EDIT: Several Laguages:
Directive 1999/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 May 1999 on certain aspects of the sale of consumer goods and associated guarantees

I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
I guess there may be other options, eg some sort of civil rights organization which helps with warranty issues which may or may not cost money, but even if its free its still going to cost a lot of my time.
I think if you unlock the bootloader you really want to acknowledge that the chances are that Motorola wont be fixing your phone, whether thats lawfully right or wrong may not be worth your time and money arguing over.
Personally I wouldnt blame Motorola for telling me that made my choice and now to live with it.
What I do think is a shame is that they dont officially release the stock images of the moto g as they do with their dev editions of some phones. After all that may remove a lot of support calls they get (and then refuse) from people that have screwed up their moto g's by unlocking and rooting etc.

scott_doyland said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
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Did you buy the phone from Motorola directly? Probably no.
Amazon, Tesco, Phones4you etc...
The warranty contract which is provided by EU law is not between you and the manufacturer (Motorola), but between you and the seller.
So if you have a hardware fault, you send/take the phone back to the seller. It's true that If they don't replace it right away, they'll probably send it to Motorola for repair anyways, and Motorola can say that your warranty is void.
But in this article this article they say:
"In case the seller refuses your right to repair or replace the device, you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations."

Thanks for the info, its obvious to me now that I'd go to phones4u - just as I would return any faulty appliance to the seller. It would be interesting to see what happened if I ever had to do that, but i hope I don't have to.

cwm without unlocking
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls

balajiasmartguy said:
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
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You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.

denzel09 said:
You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
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cwm?

balajiasmartguy said:
cwm?
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Without unlock bootloader you can not boot or flash a custom recovery on moto g. It is not possible in our case. Again.

y its not possible... in recovery it has a option to install update from SD card... with this can't we install cwm? correct me if I am wrong...

For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.

denzel09 said:
For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
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am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...

balajiasmartguy said:
am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
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No
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Rooting voids warranty? yes?

I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.

Do anybody have something to say about it?

In some devices yes and in some no
supdup said:
I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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In some devices its true that they will come to know.. They come to know from the bootloader.
I m using HTC so i can tell you on that.. after rooting it shows unlocked in bootloader mode.. It can be locked again.. For that a RUU is needed which is stock rom..

From what I read the one who for sure do it is Samsung on the Note 3 (And I think other models but not sure which) they have what's called Knox 0x0 and when you root it it trips it to show Knox 0x1 and as of now I haven't seen a way to undo a tripped Knox but there are ways to root now without tripping Knox but I rooted my Note 3 and tripped Knox but don't really care Lol. But a tripped know will void warranty.

nexx2014 said:
From what I read the one who for sure do it is Samsung on the Note 3 (And I think other models but not sure which) they have what's called Knox 0x0 and when you root it it trips it to show Knox 0x1 and as of now I haven't seen a way to undo a tripped Knox but there are ways to root now without tripping Knox but I rooted my Note 3 and tripped Knox but don't really care Lol. But a tripped know will void warranty.
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Do you know whether trip knox is present in the lenovo devices, particularly in k900 model?

supdup said:
Do you know whether trip knox is present in the lenovo devices, particularly in k900 model?
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I looked around really quick but i didnt see mention of the k900 having something similar to Samsungs Knox.

supdup said:
I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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Yes, rooting your device can void warranty, but you would need to be very unlucky. In most cases when you return your device there may be a fault with it and you can simply relock your phone and reflash stock rom before returning device. In other caes you may have bricked your device, i.e. your device does not work at all. This has happened to me and others and when I returned it they never checked. As I said, you would have to be very unlucky for them to void your warranty.....but it is the risk you take

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supdup said:
I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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My suggestion is: Just do it and forget about the possibility that you are going to need your warranty. On my own experience thinking about the warranty just makes Murphy's Law to come.

nexx2014 said:
I looked around really quick but i didnt see mention of the k900 having something similar to Samsungs Knox.
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Thanks for looking arround. I guess knox is not present in my lenovo phone
Spartan Rises said:
Yes, rooting your device can void warranty, but you would need to be very unlucky. In most cases when you return your device there may be a fault with it and you can simply relock your phone and reflash stock rom before returning device. In other caes you may have bricked your device, i.e. your device does not work at all. This has happened to me and others and when I returned it they never checked. As I said, you would have to be very unlucky for them to void your warranty.....but it is the risk you take
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Thanks. I am currently searching the stock row rom of my mobile.
jpvillabona said:
My suggestion is: Just do it and forget about the possibility that you are going to need your warranty. On my own experience thinking about the warranty just makes Murphy's Law to come.
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lol, being a lawyer i would agree to that

Can I root the Moto G3 with an app like KingRoot?

Hi peps,
I just switched from my crappy HTC One X to my new Moto G3 and I'm in love!
I don't really want a custom ROM, but I'd like to undervolt this babe. But since a root requires unlocking the bootloader = voiding the manufacturers warranty, I don't really wanna do that..
I've bought it over Amazon and I live in the EU, so I technically still have the retailer's warranty and Amazon would replace it without a hassle, but yeah.. it's new and all.
But I know there are apps like towelroot, KingRoot and what not, do they work with the Moto G3? I'm on 5.1.1.

Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery

Osid said:
Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
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Could you read my post first?
squid2 said:
Your bootloader must be unlocked to use this recovery.
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unlocking bootloader = voiding warranty.

shawly said:
Could you read my post first?
unlocking bootloader = voiding warranty.
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If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.

Ragarianok said:
If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
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Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?

I used to root in one click in just one method on my previous phone xperia sp but i dont know this phone have any toll which will work or not?

shawly said:
Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
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Being a smartass is kind of my thing.
You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever.
Generally speaking, both KingRoot and TowelRoot are used on devices where using those two methods are the only way to root those devices.
Unlocking the bootloader will have no ill effect on your device other than voiding the warranty, and, if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device.
In the words of the always optimistic Ms. Frizzle: "Take chances, make mistakes, and get messy!"
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zephiK said:
Just unlock the bootloader and root. You're making it too difficult for yourself, the whole point of the bootloader being locked is to prevent changes being made to the system.
Its like saying, you're going to break your windows to get into your house when you can just unlock the door.
Just unlock the bootloader and flash supersu for root.
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Also this.

Ragarianok said:
Being a smartass is kind of my thing.
You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever.
Generally speaking, both KingRoot and TowelRoot are used on devices where using those two methods are the only way to root those devices.
Unlocking the bootloader will have no ill effect on your device other than voiding the warranty, and, if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device.
In the words of the always optimistic Ms. Frizzle: "Take chances, make mistakes, and get messy!"
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Who said I'm afraid of unlocking the bootloader? Who said I never unlocked the bootloader of other phones before?
I just don't wanna lose my warranty in the first two or three months, in case my phone breaks unexpectedly, I also don't plan on using custom roms, I just want the root features so I can undervolt like I said and IF I could root it permanently without unlocking the bootloader, why not?
I'm not worried, it would just be convenient to have root without losing the warranty, that's it.

As far as I know you may be able to do it search kingroot in Google then download the apk and install it then open in and follow the instructions

shawly said:
Who said I'm afraid of unlocking the bootloader? Who said I never unlocked the bootloader of other phones before?
I just don't wanna lose my warranty in the first two or three months, in case my phone breaks unexpectedly, ...
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Then leave the device stock ...
If you want the best of both worlds (root & warranty), then go buy a Nexus. Motorola drew a line in the sand as to what they will support, while still empowering owners with the option to unlock the bootloader.
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Ragarianok said:
If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
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Not really. While I've unlocked my previous phones, my new g3 I'm leaving locked for the first year, while the warranty lasts. But this site still has a few helpful stuff.
Ragarianok said:
...You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever...if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device...
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He just wants the warranty, but he doesn't care about rooting it because there's not really anything wrong with rooting if you know what you're doing and how to fix it.
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And to answer the question; you need to unlock the bootloader to root
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Question, I attempted to use towelroot on my stock g3 and got a message saying my phone is not supported. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also, fairly newbish, so be gentle!!

Jdwright0819 said:
Question, I attempted to use towelroot on my stock g3 and got a message saying my phone is not supported. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also, fairly newbish, so be gentle!!
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Towelroot is exploiting a bug in the Linux Kernel in order to root a device. This bug was already fixed in June 2014.
On all Kernels with a later build date Towelroot will most likely not work.
For sure it will not work on the Moto G3 with a kernel build date more than one year after this bug was fixed.

Thanks!

shawly said:
Hi peps,
I just switched from my crappy HTC One X to my new Moto G3 and I'm in love!
I don't really want a custom ROM, but I'd like to undervolt this babe. But since a root requires unlocking the bootloader = voiding the manufacturers warranty, I don't really wanna do that..
I've bought it over Amazon and I live in the EU, so I technically still have the retailer's warranty and Amazon would replace it without a hassle, but yeah.. it's new and all.
But I know there are apps like towelroot, KingRoot and what not, do they work with the Moto G3? I'm on 5.1.1.
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It's probably been answered already but those exploits are security flaws with the SE Linux system and so with each release of android these have been patched, by 5.1 these security holes have been fixed and now by locking the bootloader
It's like just locking down and modifications to the system partition so unfortunately you can't root without unlocking, unless you have android versions lower down
shawly said:
Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
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I have unlocked bootloader and i m on stock recovery amd on stock rom without rooted. Can i install twrp without pc

Are you root yet

I have moto g 3, its bootloader is unlpcked but when I tried to root it using SuperSU and twrp recovery then I ended up corrupting it software. Can anybody tell me how to safely root it...?

Ankur1 said:
I have moto g 3, its bootloader is unlpcked but when I tried to root it using SuperSU and twrp recovery then I ended up corrupting it software. Can anybody tell me how to safely root it...?
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What version of TWRP did you use coz I know there were some bugs on the moto range with TWRP 2.X.
I would completely wipe device using stock recovery, including dalvic/cache/data everything just to be on the safe side, then download the TWRP zip to your computer and flash it on using ADB.
Boot up normally and move the superSU zip from the link to your phones internal storage. Then reboot to TWRP, select install and pick the zip file.
superSU.zip:
http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/3/6/5/5/4/0/1/BETA-SuperSU-v2.62-3-20151211162651.zip?key=u0OeGV4-4s02KJXqrXJ-gg&ts=1466705675
If you get stuck this might help:
https://motog3.com/unlock-bootloader-install-twrp-root-moto-g3/

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Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
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Perhaps you can offer wisdom on this? I rooted my Moto G 3rd Gen once, wrecked something and had to go back to factory, then try to reroot again. Problem. No matter what I do in setting the device back to factory, the bootloader stays unlocked and reads the system software as "modified" which then seems to bork installing SuperSU. I install SuperSU via twrp and it goes fine, no errors, but when I reboot the system is lost in a loop of the "bootloader unlocked" screen.
So I cannot RE-lock the bootloader (ala setting the phone back to true factory) and after I flash SuperSU the phone refuses to successfully bootup.
Any aid? Ideas?
I had failed to backup my phone the first time with twrp and so to set to factory I downloaded the stock retail xml.zip for my phone and reflashed the entire thing via fastboot. Reinstall twrp, and try to root and the endless boot loop begins.
So I came to this thread to look into the possibility rooting my phone via another means that MIGHT work.