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can I root my phone without voiding warranty?
and if I rootit can I unroot it and return to its original state?
thank you
jusleen said:
can I root my phone without voiding warranty?
and if I rootit can I unroot it and return to its original state?
thank you
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teoreticaly yes, you lose warranty.
but you can unroot it.
Actually technically the answer is NO. Rooting your phone should not in and of itself void your warranty, but the things you can do may and most likely will. For example lets say you root your phone and keep the stock kernel just debloat the stock ROM, and then the volume buttons stop working...unless you did hardware mods it would be under warranty. When I rooted my HTC using the HTCDev method to unlock the bootloader the disclaimer said it MAY, not that it will or does, and a few months after rooting and reading their warning I sent in my phone for warranty repair/replacement with no problems, even though my phone was documented as being rooted. Now if you hard brick your phone flashing a ROM with bad mount points that is a different story altogether.
A few years back I had a Samsung Interceptor that I had rooted and it had an issue with a physical button (Power button I believe), I brought my phone to Sprint and the rep saw it was rooted (before I sprung for Superuser Elite to hide the app). His words to me were that as long as NO hardware mods were done and the phone can be flashed back to a stock state it would still be covered under warranty. Important to note...Carriers will not service a phone with a custom recovery PERIOD, which is why I left the Sprint store and reflashed the stock image to the phone.
My advice to people who are concerned with their warranties is to know exactly how to get it back to stock...before its ever customized. The reason for this should be obvious. And don't let it leave your hands (sent out for repair, or brought to the back for testing) prior to flashing it back to stock
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ItzCrooK2UxD said:
Actually technically the answer is NO. Rooting your phone should not in and of itself void your warranty, but the things you can do may and most likely will. For example lets say you root your phone and keep the stock kernel just debloat the stock ROM, and then the volume buttons stop working...unless you did hardware mods it would be under warranty. When I rooted my HTC using the HTCDev method to unlock the bootloader the disclaimer said it MAY, not that it will or does, and a few months after rooting and reading their warning I sent in my phone for warranty repair/replacement with no problems, even though my phone was documented as being rooted. Now if you hard brick your phone flashing a ROM with bad mount points that is a different story altogether.
A few years back I had a Samsung Interceptor that I had rooted and it had an issue with a physical button (Power button I believe), I brought my phone to Sprint and the rep saw it was rooted (before I sprung for Superuser Elite to hide the app). His words to me were that as long as NO hardware mods were done and the phone can be flashed back to a stock state it would still be covered under warranty. Important to note...Carriers will not service a phone with a custom recovery PERIOD, which is why I left the Sprint store and reflashed the stock image to the phone.
My advice to people who are concerned with their warranties is to know exactly how to get it back to stock...before its ever customized. The reason for this should be obvious. And don't let it leave your hands (sent out for repair, or brought to the back for testing) prior to flashing it back to stock
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Then do you know how to get it back to stock after i rooted it??thanks
jusleen said:
Then do you know how to get it back to stock after i rooted it??thanks
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I can probably point you in the right direction...did you unlock the bootloader or not? I am seeing a few unroot methods for locked bootloaders. If you did unlock the bootloader you will need to lock it back. Also it is important to note that some bootloaders will say *relocked* after relocking them, and not *locked* if it says *relocked* they will know it has been rooted. This is NOT a problem because once again having root access does not void the warranty, but you should be aware that if it says relocked they will know it has been rooted. This link has a root/unroot tool that may help it makes no mention of a specific firmware for your model phone so it should be fine. Also this video should help with the relock procedure but not knowing the phone I would need more specific details. Firmware and method used to root/unlock bootloader if you unlocked it. One of the relock procedures can be see here
*EDIT* I did a little looking and thought you might find this of interest. About midway through there is a section about warranty claims and returns...I didn't sign up so I can't see the links there but it should help .
umm......... i had a doubt : if we're gonna root a zenfone will the ota updates come? and even if they come, this means i gonna lose my root.
so will it also mean that i have restored mah warranty? might seem silly forgive me thanks in advance!!
Hi,
Root itself will not stop you from installing ota updates. But a custom recovery will, and a custom rom will. So it depends how you root.
Yes, ota updates usually break root. But as long as the new Android version is rootable for your device... You can root again.
And yes, Rooting almost always voids warranty. But again, it depends how you root and if you can return completely stock again so there's no sign you were rooted. This is different for each device.
I can't point you to further help or an area to find help unless I know your device model number.
Good luck!
Hi peps,
I just switched from my crappy HTC One X to my new Moto G3 and I'm in love!
I don't really want a custom ROM, but I'd like to undervolt this babe. But since a root requires unlocking the bootloader = voiding the manufacturers warranty, I don't really wanna do that..
I've bought it over Amazon and I live in the EU, so I technically still have the retailer's warranty and Amazon would replace it without a hassle, but yeah.. it's new and all.
But I know there are apps like towelroot, KingRoot and what not, do they work with the Moto G3? I'm on 5.1.1.
Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
Osid said:
Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
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Could you read my post first?
squid2 said:
Your bootloader must be unlocked to use this recovery.
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unlocking bootloader = voiding warranty.
shawly said:
Could you read my post first?
unlocking bootloader = voiding warranty.
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If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
Ragarianok said:
If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
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Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
I used to root in one click in just one method on my previous phone xperia sp but i dont know this phone have any toll which will work or not?
shawly said:
Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
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Being a smartass is kind of my thing.
You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever.
Generally speaking, both KingRoot and TowelRoot are used on devices where using those two methods are the only way to root those devices.
Unlocking the bootloader will have no ill effect on your device other than voiding the warranty, and, if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device.
In the words of the always optimistic Ms. Frizzle: "Take chances, make mistakes, and get messy!"
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zephiK said:
Just unlock the bootloader and root. You're making it too difficult for yourself, the whole point of the bootloader being locked is to prevent changes being made to the system.
Its like saying, you're going to break your windows to get into your house when you can just unlock the door.
Just unlock the bootloader and flash supersu for root.
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Also this.
Ragarianok said:
Being a smartass is kind of my thing.
You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever.
Generally speaking, both KingRoot and TowelRoot are used on devices where using those two methods are the only way to root those devices.
Unlocking the bootloader will have no ill effect on your device other than voiding the warranty, and, if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device.
In the words of the always optimistic Ms. Frizzle: "Take chances, make mistakes, and get messy!"
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Who said I'm afraid of unlocking the bootloader? Who said I never unlocked the bootloader of other phones before?
I just don't wanna lose my warranty in the first two or three months, in case my phone breaks unexpectedly, I also don't plan on using custom roms, I just want the root features so I can undervolt like I said and IF I could root it permanently without unlocking the bootloader, why not?
I'm not worried, it would just be convenient to have root without losing the warranty, that's it.
As far as I know you may be able to do it search kingroot in Google then download the apk and install it then open in and follow the instructions
shawly said:
Who said I'm afraid of unlocking the bootloader? Who said I never unlocked the bootloader of other phones before?
I just don't wanna lose my warranty in the first two or three months, in case my phone breaks unexpectedly, ...
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Then leave the device stock ...
If you want the best of both worlds (root & warranty), then go buy a Nexus. Motorola drew a line in the sand as to what they will support, while still empowering owners with the option to unlock the bootloader.
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Ragarianok said:
If you're worried about voiding the warranty, you're on the wrong site.
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Not really. While I've unlocked my previous phones, my new g3 I'm leaving locked for the first year, while the warranty lasts. But this site still has a few helpful stuff.
Ragarianok said:
...You're afraid to unlock your device's bootloader because you'll lose the warranty, but you're perfectly fine with risking the security of your device by rooting it, right? Seems odd to me, but whatever...if you're worried about voiding your warranty, you shouldn't be trying to modify your device...
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He just wants the warranty, but he doesn't care about rooting it because there's not really anything wrong with rooting if you know what you're doing and how to fix it.
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And to answer the question; you need to unlock the bootloader to root
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Question, I attempted to use towelroot on my stock g3 and got a message saying my phone is not supported. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also, fairly newbish, so be gentle!!
Jdwright0819 said:
Question, I attempted to use towelroot on my stock g3 and got a message saying my phone is not supported. Any help is greatly appreciated. Also, fairly newbish, so be gentle!!
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Towelroot is exploiting a bug in the Linux Kernel in order to root a device. This bug was already fixed in June 2014.
On all Kernels with a later build date Towelroot will most likely not work.
For sure it will not work on the Moto G3 with a kernel build date more than one year after this bug was fixed.
Thanks!
shawly said:
Hi peps,
I just switched from my crappy HTC One X to my new Moto G3 and I'm in love!
I don't really want a custom ROM, but I'd like to undervolt this babe. But since a root requires unlocking the bootloader = voiding the manufacturers warranty, I don't really wanna do that..
I've bought it over Amazon and I live in the EU, so I technically still have the retailer's warranty and Amazon would replace it without a hassle, but yeah.. it's new and all.
But I know there are apps like towelroot, KingRoot and what not, do they work with the Moto G3? I'm on 5.1.1.
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It's probably been answered already but those exploits are security flaws with the SE Linux system and so with each release of android these have been patched, by 5.1 these security holes have been fixed and now by locking the bootloader
It's like just locking down and modifications to the system partition so unfortunately you can't root without unlocking, unless you have android versions lower down
shawly said:
Thanks for this unnecessary input. :good:
On previous versions of Android there were exploits that allowed rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader, which means you could keep your warranty and I just asked if it works on the current Moto G3 with Lollipop 5.1, why do you have to be such a smartass? It's a normal question, why can't I have a normal answer?
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I have unlocked bootloader and i m on stock recovery amd on stock rom without rooted. Can i install twrp without pc
Are you root yet
I have moto g 3, its bootloader is unlpcked but when I tried to root it using SuperSU and twrp recovery then I ended up corrupting it software. Can anybody tell me how to safely root it...?
Ankur1 said:
I have moto g 3, its bootloader is unlpcked but when I tried to root it using SuperSU and twrp recovery then I ended up corrupting it software. Can anybody tell me how to safely root it...?
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What version of TWRP did you use coz I know there were some bugs on the moto range with TWRP 2.X.
I would completely wipe device using stock recovery, including dalvic/cache/data everything just to be on the safe side, then download the TWRP zip to your computer and flash it on using ADB.
Boot up normally and move the superSU zip from the link to your phones internal storage. Then reboot to TWRP, select install and pick the zip file.
superSU.zip:
http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/3/6/5/5/4/0/1/BETA-SuperSU-v2.62-3-20151211162651.zip?key=u0OeGV4-4s02KJXqrXJ-gg&ts=1466705675
If you get stuck this might help:
https://motog3.com/unlock-bootloader-install-twrp-root-moto-g3/
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Osid said:
Jut install SuperSU ZIP using TWRP recovery
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Perhaps you can offer wisdom on this? I rooted my Moto G 3rd Gen once, wrecked something and had to go back to factory, then try to reroot again. Problem. No matter what I do in setting the device back to factory, the bootloader stays unlocked and reads the system software as "modified" which then seems to bork installing SuperSU. I install SuperSU via twrp and it goes fine, no errors, but when I reboot the system is lost in a loop of the "bootloader unlocked" screen.
So I cannot RE-lock the bootloader (ala setting the phone back to true factory) and after I flash SuperSU the phone refuses to successfully bootup.
Any aid? Ideas?
I had failed to backup my phone the first time with twrp and so to set to factory I downloaded the stock retail xml.zip for my phone and reflashed the entire thing via fastboot. Reinstall twrp, and try to root and the endless boot loop begins.
So I came to this thread to look into the possibility rooting my phone via another means that MIGHT work.
Hi,
is there easy tool to root phone. I don't need install trwp and custom roms.
I just need to root the phone - that's all.
There is no shortcut... you must unlock the device via Motorola's Official Unlock tool, this will wipe your device and void the warranty. Then you can boot TWRP (without flashing it if you wish) and install root.
Sorry, but since Lollipop, and all future versions of Android, there will be no more quick root solution that can be done without unlocking and following the "old normal" procedure, Google made sure of that, for now at least until someone discovers an entirely new way to root.
i was thinking that there is some easier way.
Motorola has app (Moto care i think ) that can remotely wipe phone when lost. When i was activating it there was some info about root access.
So i need that tool:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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How to boot into TRWP without flashing it ?
Is there way to lock the phone after unlock process ? For example when I won't need any more rooted phone.
Yes
You boot twrp with the 'fastboot boot xxxx.img' command
Your phone will always show unlocked, even when relocked, unless you flash a stock rom image using a special OEM lock procedure. TBH, almost no one bothers because it will always show tampered and you won't get the warranty back.
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that's not good information. With my "luck" to phones it probably will need warranty after unlock
what else will i need to unlock it ?
Motorola unlock tool - i know.
i suppose drivers for phone, what else ?
bartwaw said:
that's not good information. With my "luck" to phones it probably will need warranty after unlock
what else will i need to unlock it ?
Motorola unlock tool - i know.
i suppose drivers for phone, what else ?
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There is no "tool"... Just drivers (Win only), a few fastboot commands, and Moto's website, it's all manually done with the G3.
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If you are ready to root your phone, then don't think about warranty. every warranty voids at one day, then if you want full control over your phone , you must ready for everything, otherwise don't root .
Before doing anything, you must do a backup
Read everything and understand then hit ok in all steps of Android rooting life .
There is a root tool called One Click Root. It seems great. have a try.
drmuruga said:
If you are ready to root your phone, then don't think about warranty. every warranty voids at one day, then if you want full control over your phone , you must ready for everything, otherwise don't root .
Before doing anything, you must do a backup
Read everything and understand then hit ok in all steps of Android rooting life .
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You are saying backup before doing anythig... But how to backup it? When we unlock all data get wiped... So there is nothing to backup... Device is very clean...
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You are saying backup before doing anythig... But how to backup it? When we unlock all data get wiped... So there is nothing to backup... Device is very clean...
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You should back up as much as possible before you unlock the device. Photos, Videos, etc - you can back-up to your SD card. Contacts, Calendar, etc. can be backed up on Google.
I'm not sure about other app data, like in games.
Before you root, consider whether you actually *need* to root your phone for you to use it. Often, a lot of the 'control' people mention, is something they hardly make use of. One popular reason for rooting might be ad-blocking, but if it's just to block ads in browsers, there are various browsers available with ad-blocking enabled (firefox for instance with a plugin) and if you want system-wide ad-blocking, there are services such as AdGuard, which work with a local VPN / without rooting. More 'control' also means you're potentially making your device less safe. Lastly, the Moto G3 is very clean to begin with, very close to stock Android and the Motorola apps that are included are generally considered to be useful instead of bloat.
TL;DR, think before your root / gamble with your warranty, don't just root for the sake of it.
That said, good luck
[Apologies for being a noob, I tried my best to do the homework]
I want to buy a used Pixel 2 (or Pixel 3). There is some general advice on the internet reminding to check:
(i) for physical damage
(ii) if ESN / IMEI has been blacklisted
(iii) if the device is compatible with a carrier (communication standard, uses SIM and not e-SIM, not carrier locked)
(iv) and warning that the device can break or become blacklisted after the purchase.
All of the above is associated with a risk, which is limited to the amount of money paid.
But my primary concern is the risk from using the second-hand device where privacy is critical (email, online banking, 2FA through SMS). How do I make sure the previous owner hasn't planted a backdoor? If I trust Google, what are the reasonable steps to ensure that the device hasn't been tampered with by someone else? In particular:
(1) How do I check on Pixel 2 that the firmware, bootloader, OS are the original ones?
(2) If the device had been bootloader unlocked and/or rooted, is it possible to restore the original images, re-lock the bootloader to be confident that no one (but Google) will spy on me?
(3) Is there anything I am missing?
(4) Which of these are probably different on Pixel 3 and should be asked on Pixel 3 forum?
I barely understand the difference between the bootlocker and the recovery, and I would appreciate clear answers very much.
Related:
- A related thread mentions telling apart Verizon and unlocked versions of Pixel 2:
Buying Pixel 2 on Craigslist any tips to avoid issues?
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- A similar question was asked about Galaxy Note 9. One senior member says "Hell, back in the day we could reset knox counters ... even checking knox isn't a full proof method". Another says "So rest assured if your Warranty Bit is not 0x1 a Custom Binary has never been flashed". I am confused, as there is no concensus.
Bought used. Security concerns?
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- Here someone says "Really easy to relock" about OnePlus 5. I wonder if the same is true for Pixels 2/3?
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Reboot the phone, and see if the yellow exclamation mark comes up saying the bootloader was modified.
If you don't see that, it means the Pixel 2 bootloader was never unlocked and a custom ROM was never flashed to the device.
Since all Pixel 2 phones would be out of warranty now, the only way to ensure security is to flash a trusty ROM yourself.
kodina said:
Since all Pixel 2 phones would be out of warranty now, the only way to ensure security is to flash a trusty ROM yourself.
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Thanks for you response, but I am not sure I understand the last bit. Do you mean I would have to flash a trusty ROM myself because there are no certified service centres that would accept the phone, as the warranty has expired? Or do you mean that there are no automatic updates or supported ROMs because of the end of life or something?
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wiltingenthusiasm said:
Thanks for you response, but I am not sure I understand the last bit. Do you mean I would have to flash a trusty ROM myself because there are no certified service centres that would accept the phone, as the warranty has expired? Or do you mean that there are no automatic updates or supported ROMs because of the end of life or something?
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No, I mean even if the bootloader is locked, even if the original owner never flashed a custom ROM, the device (in theory) could still have had been rooted in the past, unknown apps installed, root removed and you would never know. Hoewever, this is all in theory, but it is possible, and only applies if you are paranoid about security.
Otherwise, reboot the phone, no bootlaoder warning = 99% safe to use.
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No, I mean even if the bootloader is locked, even if the original owner never flashed a custom ROM, the device (in theory) could still have had been rooted in the past, unknown apps installed, root removed and you would never know. Hoewever, this is all in theory, but it is possible, and only applies if you are paranoid about security.
Otherwise, reboot the phone, no bootlaoder warning = 99% safe to use.
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Oh, I see. And a factory reset would not help either, because it does not recover the OS from a reserve copy whose integrity can be ensured, but simply deletes all user data and extra apps, while keeping the rest, which could have been compromised via root access. Therefore, there is no guarantee that the factory reset via bootloader really gets the device to the "factory state". Is that correct?
[Many thanks for your explanation.]
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Oh, I see. And a factory reset would not help either, because it does not recover the OS from a reserve copy whose integrity can be ensured, but simply deletes all user data and extra apps, while keeping the rest, which could have been compromised via root access. Therefore, there is no guarantee that the factory reset via bootloader really gets the device to the "factory state". Is that correct?
[Many thanks for your explanation.]
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In theory, because I have not ready any news, articles, guides or forum threads where people are claiming they have done it.
So, the only option to ensure things are 1% safer, is to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom ROM yourself, trusting that the ROM dev didn't put anything weird in it. Though, as far as I checked, none of the OFFICIAL ROMs for Pixel 2 have a history of putting in something bad.
So, if you want 100% stability, use the default google ROM after a factory reset, but if you want """more""" security, unlock the bootloader and flash the ROM yourself.