If rooted would I even need the OTA updates? Not "planning" on changing the ROM just rooting device for superuser rights. Does that still void warranty if ROM is not changed? I couldn't find anything on Rooting/Void Warranty on Verizon website..
romtang said:
If rooted would I even need the OTA updates? Not "planning" on changing the ROM just rooting device for superuser rights. Does that still void warranty if ROM is not changed? I couldn't find anything on Rooting/Void Warranty on Verizon website..
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technically, the mere rooting voided it. my opinion is, if you can hide the fact you rooted it successfully, obviously any problems cant be due to root access, considering the root should be wiped if you use the "repair" in pc companion after it says "your phone is up to date" and the rom reinstalled, so any further problems must be hardware. therefore, root must not be the stem of the problem (unless you over-clock too much with a diff kernel and burn out the cpu or something.) so my suggestion is, use "CWM-installer" or whatever it is (the app specifically states it is for xperia devices) and back up your phone now. just in case you need to use the "repair" so you can get everything back. i havent done this yet, but from what i understand, this should work with even a softbrick. just make sure you unroot BEFORE you take it to verizon if screen breaks or something. just make a backup, remove the sd, and factory reset it or use pc companion repair and say you had software problems recently and reset it to fix it, then the stupid thing had to spite you twice and break physically too! lol. anyways, best of luck!
Hey folks. It's me again :victory: So I've got another super easy video guide on how to root your shiny new Samsung Galaxy S4 I337 or I337m.
This guide is using djrbliss's Motochopper tool. This tool has made it easier than ever to root a device! So BIG thanks goes out to him!
Links to everything can be found in the video description.
Enjoy
Here is a couple of more. I figure its better to keep them all in one place so people can decide which guide they want to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257039
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257058
I think there might be a couple more out there but this should help people to answer any possible question about rooting that they could ever have.
If you have the AT&T OTA (MF3) for the SGH-I337 S4, the method in the OP does not work. Here is a method for rooting MF3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577
For Canadian MG1 Firmware, try CF Auto-Root download for the SGH-I337M:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293800
Just sold my Rogers S2 LTE because I upgraded to the S4. My quick question, if I ROOT and retain the original Samsung Recovery will I be able to still get and do official firmware upgrades? This is the only thing stopping me from going forward with rooting.
You can still get updates, but you will loose your root access with each update.
thanks: im now rooted and sim unlocked for free!
Slade8525 said:
thanks: im now rooted and sim unlocked for free!
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Hey, how did you sim unlock it for free, do you mind sharing?
yeah sure!
similar method worked for my GS III; havent tested the GS IV with different sim just yet but GF's old GS III is working just fine for her sister in Canada (Bell i think). GF found it actually, and did it to hers 1st. ill know if it works when we leave for work in Montreal next week or if i bum a t-mobile cell from a friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2282683
Stoneyguy said:
You can still get updates, but you will loose your root access with each update.
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WRONG, I am unable to update my device, it says that my phone has been modified, and yes, I have rooted it with this video.
Whenever I try this method, when it goes to push the exploit, it says error multiple devices or something. when I only have the S4 plugged in. Followed step by step.
Dragosmp said:
WRONG, I am unable to update my device, it says that my phone has been modified, and yes, I have rooted it with this video.
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My phone is rooted and still shows official in phone status. There is a post on how to regain that status while still maintaining your root.
Stoneyguy said:
My phone is rooted and still shows official in phone status. There is a post on how to regain that status while still maintaining your root.
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Could you post a link to where it shows how to regain the status will maintaining the root?
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Could you post a link to where it shows how to regain the status will maintaining the root?
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The link has already been posted on the first page.
thanks worked great just rooted min in 5 min
Safe to root?
Excuse my ignorance, but on another thread it was suggested that in the absence of recovery and a backup image rooting might be premature. Is the general consensus now that it is safe to root? There seems to be some backup images around thought I don't know if they have been tested, and I haven't heard about recovery.
sblevine
Newbie here... couple of questions
I have the same concern as the member above... is it already possible to restore the phone if something goes bad? Is there instructions anywhere around this forum? where?
Also, once you root the phone you can proceed to download a ROM and install it... when a new ROM version is available and I download and install it, do I lose the root?
What is the best (if more than one is already available) for the ATT S4?
Thank you all and sorry for the "newbieness"....
Cheers:good:
speed2001 said:
I have the same concern as the member above... is it already possible to restore the phone if something goes bad? Is there instructions anywhere around this forum? where?
Also, once you root the phone you can proceed to download a ROM and install it... when a new ROM version is available and I download and install it, do I lose the root?
What is the best (if more than one is already available) for the ATT S4?
Thank you all and sorry for the "newbieness"....
Cheers:good:
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No, rooting gives you certain superuser privileges. You can use Titanium Backup to freeze and restore bloatware, AdBlock to block advertisements, etc. Some phone tracking software and remote desktop control software requires root as well.
You cannot modify the basic operating system (ROM) until the bootloader is unlocked. You can overwrite the files, but that will brick your device since the bootloader checks signatures.
There is a bootloader exploit for the ATT S4 that will be released within the next week. The developer was waiting until the Verizon version of the S4 was available so more people would be able to use the exploit before it was patched.
Do not accept an OTA update for your device as that is how they will patch the bootloader exploit.
1. Root your device.
2. Carrier unlock your device.
3. Install custom ROM when bootloader is exploited later this week.
Relys said:
No, rooting gives you certain superuser privileges. You can use Titanium Backup to freeze and restore bloatware, AdBlock to block advertisements, etc. Some phone tracking software and remote desktop control software requires root as well.
You cannot modify the basic operating system (ROM) until the bootloader is unlocked. You can overwrite the files, but that will brick your device since the bootloader checks signatures.
There is a bootloader exploit for the ATT S4 that will be released within the next week. The developer was waiting until the Verizon version of the S4 was available so more people would be able to use the exploit before it was patched.
Do not accept an OTA update for your device as that is how they will patch the bootloader exploit.
1. Root your device.
2. Carrier unlock your device.
3. Install custom ROM when bootloader is exploited later this week.
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Cool, thanks for the reply. I was under the impression that the bootloader was already exploited. Pure BS those protections that always end up broken like the IOS ones. What I would like is to have the S4 as factory released and load a good ROM without any problems and no bloatware. If not for the warranty I would buy an unlocked phone elsewhere.
Well, let's wait for the exploit next week. I don't want to brick my phone and not able to restore it. I will keep checking back.
Cheers and thanks again
Speed
Relys said:
No, rooting gives you certain superuser privileges. You can use Titanium Backup to freeze and restore bloatware, AdBlock to block advertisements, etc. Some phone tracking software and remote desktop control software requires root as well.
You cannot modify the basic operating system (ROM) until the bootloader is unlocked. You can overwrite the files, but that will brick your device since the bootloader checks signatures.
There is a bootloader exploit for the ATT S4 that will be released within the next week. The developer was waiting until the Verizon version of the S4 was available so more people would be able to use the exploit before it was patched.
Do not accept an OTA update for your device as that is how they will patch the bootloader exploit.
1. Root your device.
2. Carrier unlock your device.
3. Install custom ROM when bootloader is exploited later this week.
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Regarding the bold above, I am honestly not that interested in the Custom ROMS right now, only rooting and with this method it does not install any custom recovery, right? As well, if I root via this method will I be able to still do the OTA updates since Samsung recovery is untouched? I know and understand that I will likely loose root, but I can always re-root, right?
I am itching to root and this is the only thing stopping me as there seems to be much confusion about this.
BTW I am on Rogers (Canada) i337M if it makes a difference
rsarwar said:
Regarding the bold above, I am honestly not that interested in the Custom ROMS right now, only rooting and with this method it does not install any custom recovery, right? As well, if I root via this method will I be able to still do the OTA updates since Samsung recovery is untouched? I know and understand that I will likely loose root, but I can always re-root, right?
I am itching to root and this is the only thing stopping me as there seems to be much confusion about this.
BTW I am on Rogers (Canada) i337M if it makes a difference
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I've been a bit confused as well despite reading hundreds of posts and watching referenced videos (I've also been hesitant to ask questions given the culture of this board). Here is what I hope is accurate, please correct where I am wrong:
We can root I337 now.
Doing a simple root now is reversible, ie, can be un-rooted.
The bootloader unlock is needed primarily for custom roms.
If one does not desire a custom rom, there is no reason to wait to root.
And, a few questions:
Does rooting wipe out apps, settings, and/or data?
Will an AT&T android system update remove the root?
If so, can we just root again?
Thank you for clarifications. I'm sure there are many that are not posting with some of these questions. I will be glad to put together a noobie's guide if I can get a handle on all of this. It is all out there somewhere, but very fragmented, and often one post is contradicted by another.
zekeblue said:
I've been a bit confused as well despite reading hundreds of posts and watching referenced videos (I've also been hesitant to ask questions given the culture of this board). Here is what I hope is accurate, please correct where I am wrong:
We can root I337 now.
Doing a simple root now is reversible, ie, can be un-rooted.
The bootloader unlock is needed primarily for custom roms.
If one does not desire a custom rom, there is no reason to wait to root.
And, a few questions:
Does rooting wipe out apps, settings, and/or data?
Will an AT&T android system update remove the root?
If so, can we just root again?
Thank you for clarifications. I'm sure there are many that are not posting with some of these questions. I will be glad to put together a noobie's guide if I can get a handle on all of this. It is all out there somewhere, but very fragmented, and often one post is contradicted by another.
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Your assumptions are correct:
1. Yep.
2. Yes, you can delete busybox and su in your system directory to get your phone switch your phone from "Custom" to "Official" status. If you install SuperSu and remove Superuser you can have root while keeping "Official" status.
3. Correct.
4. If you **** up while messing around with root you can recover to stock ROM via Odin or Kies. There is no reason to wait for root.
To answer your questions.
1. No, nothing changes. You just enable superuser privileges.
2. Typically yes. Don't accept OTA's until your know they're safe.
3. It depends if they patch the exploit or not.
From what I have read, the answer is no but I have some more questions so I guess Id ask anyway.
Transformer was very expensive and I have more than a year of warranty left. On the other hand I would very much like some of the features that require root. What action is possible to roll back? Unlocking, rooting or flashing a custom rom? I need to unlock the device before I can root it right?
I would use a number of features that rooting allows, but my main desire is to be able to use keyboard dock and mouse or even a gamepad as game controllers. Only program that can do that (joy2touch) requires root. But if I had root I guess I would try Cyanogenmod too because I can only see people praising it for how greatly it improves experience.
Also, there is lots of information around here but its still not dumb enough for someone who just wants to root a device but has no idea where to start (its pretty confusing). So sorry in advance for possibly asking obvious questions.
3DeX said:
From what I have read, the answer is no but I have some more questions so I guess Id ask anyway.
Transformer was very expensive and I have more than a year of warranty left. On the other hand I would very much like some of the features that require root. What action is possible to roll back? Unlocking, rooting or flashing a custom rom? I need to unlock the device before I can root it right?
I would use a number of features that rooting allows, but my main desire is to be able to use keyboard dock and mouse or even a gamepad as game controllers. Only program that can do that (joy2touch) requires root. But if I had root I guess I would try Cyanogenmod too because I can only see people praising it for how greatly it improves experience.
Also, there is lots of information around here but its still not dumb enough for someone who just wants to root a device but has no idea where to start (its pretty confusing). So sorry in advance for possibly asking obvious questions.
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If you just want root to use joy2touch, then your warranty is still good. If you unlock your device, then your warranty is voided... you can find more information about unlock and root here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
Good luck..:fingers-crossed:
Yes but, there is rooting for either unlocked devices or devices running ICS or lower. And whatever rooting for JB I found (im running newest OTA) is only for unlocked devices as well. As I understand it, rooting does not void the warranty but unlocking does? Does that mean im screwed? I dont even know the difference between unlocking and rooting...
3DeX said:
Yes but, there is rooting for either unlocked devices or devices running ICS or lower. And whatever rooting for JB I found (im running newest OTA) is only for unlocked devices as well. As I understand it, rooting does not void the warranty but unlocking does? Does that mean im screwed? I dont even know the difference between unlocking and rooting...
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A rooting is allowed you to access your system files so you can modify them as will. A unlocking is allowed you to install custom rom and recovery. Someone else may have a better explaination for you.
No, you still can root your device if you have a bootloader .8 or earlier. If you have the latest bootloader, you can downgrade and root it..
LetMeKnow said:
No, you still can root your device if you have a bootloader .8 or earlier. If you have the latest bootloader, you can downgrade and root it..
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Rooting exploits a bug in the kernel, not in the bootloader, so it's the ROM/kernel build 10.6.1.14.8, not the bootloader build. But it's always the same on locked devices anyway.
Uhm... you are confusing me even more. So is there a rooting guide that doesnt involve unlocking, can be reverted or doesnt void warranty, and works with newest stock OTA?
To my knowledge I dont have any kind of bootloader.
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Rooting exploits a bug in the kernel, not in the bootloader, so it's the ROM/kernel build 10.6.1.14.8, not the bootloader build. But it's always the same on locked devices anyway.
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Thanks _that. What I meant is the latest firmware from Asus.
@3DeX
1. Download the Asus firmware 10.6.1.14.8
2. Backup your personal data and everything that you like to keep to your computer or your external SD.
3. Make sure that your battery is full so it is not shutdown during the installing process..
4. Unzip it once because there is another zip file insde it.
5. Copy the second zip file to the root directory of your internal SD.
6. Reboot your tablet.
7. After reboot, you will see the downgrade notification in the lower right corner.
8. Click on the downgrade notification and follow the instructions.
9. During the installing process, Do not try to turn it off. It will reboot by itself when the installation is completed. It may take 2 to 3 minutes..
10. Use motochopper to root your device.
Good luck..
I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
Do anybody have something to say about it?
In some devices yes and in some no
supdup said:
I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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In some devices its true that they will come to know.. They come to know from the bootloader.
I m using HTC so i can tell you on that.. after rooting it shows unlocked in bootloader mode.. It can be locked again.. For that a RUU is needed which is stock rom..
From what I read the one who for sure do it is Samsung on the Note 3 (And I think other models but not sure which) they have what's called Knox 0x0 and when you root it it trips it to show Knox 0x1 and as of now I haven't seen a way to undo a tripped Knox but there are ways to root now without tripping Knox but I rooted my Note 3 and tripped Knox but don't really care Lol. But a tripped know will void warranty.
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From what I read the one who for sure do it is Samsung on the Note 3 (And I think other models but not sure which) they have what's called Knox 0x0 and when you root it it trips it to show Knox 0x1 and as of now I haven't seen a way to undo a tripped Knox but there are ways to root now without tripping Knox but I rooted my Note 3 and tripped Knox but don't really care Lol. But a tripped know will void warranty.
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Do you know whether trip knox is present in the lenovo devices, particularly in k900 model?
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Do you know whether trip knox is present in the lenovo devices, particularly in k900 model?
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I looked around really quick but i didnt see mention of the k900 having something similar to Samsungs Knox.
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I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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Yes, rooting your device can void warranty, but you would need to be very unlucky. In most cases when you return your device there may be a fault with it and you can simply relock your phone and reflash stock rom before returning device. In other caes you may have bricked your device, i.e. your device does not work at all. This has happened to me and others and when I returned it they never checked. As I said, you would have to be very unlucky for them to void your warranty.....but it is the risk you take
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supdup said:
I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
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My suggestion is: Just do it and forget about the possibility that you are going to need your warranty. On my own experience thinking about the warranty just makes Murphy's Law to come.
nexx2014 said:
I looked around really quick but i didnt see mention of the k900 having something similar to Samsungs Knox.
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Thanks for looking arround. I guess knox is not present in my lenovo phone
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Yes, rooting your device can void warranty, but you would need to be very unlucky. In most cases when you return your device there may be a fault with it and you can simply relock your phone and reflash stock rom before returning device. In other caes you may have bricked your device, i.e. your device does not work at all. This has happened to me and others and when I returned it they never checked. As I said, you would have to be very unlucky for them to void your warranty.....but it is the risk you take
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Thanks. I am currently searching the stock row rom of my mobile.
jpvillabona said:
My suggestion is: Just do it and forget about the possibility that you are going to need your warranty. On my own experience thinking about the warranty just makes Murphy's Law to come.
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lol, being a lawyer i would agree to that