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many popular Web sites across the net are shutting down for 1 day on January 18th in protest of the 2 bills the united states government is trying to force through Congress. These bills would give the united states government the power to shut down entire Web sites, much like China does. This could even affect xda. Think of the government shutting xda down because some newb posts a file he shouldnt, or because a leak for a device specific os post is seen as infringement.
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They have already joined.... The force is strong with this one.
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itsbeertimenow said:
They have already joined.... The force is strong with this one.
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thanks. That's awesome
edit. I think there is healthy discussion. Please keep thread open
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thanks. That's awesome
Mods. You can delete this topic
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Lol
I really like the force comment.
Someone missed the memo.
Is there more info about this somewhere?
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You mean other than this
All seriousness tho... This is an informative link to some folks involved in the anti-sopa movement.
At least in America I think we've become way too complacent. It's frightening what they could do with the bill that passed, but got floored, if just *one* man changed his mind.
Not long until it hits England I reckon. Can't believe we are extraditing a 23 year old to America over piracy... sad times.
Waste of time imho. People who are against SOPA should be out there educating people. The more people understand the more influence we have. If there is a blackout for a day a lot of people will overlook it.
hi, I ve read the announce from different site... however i still wondering how xda users from outside USA can do to support the mouvement... we are a lot!
Any idea?
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fragargon said:
hi, I ve read the announce from different site... however i still wondering how xda users from outside USA can do to support the mouvement... we are a lot!
Any idea?
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I second the notion. We are miles apart but the SOPA legislation is Fakd Up Bulsht. It's only a matter of time that our pathetic excuses for politicians here in europe vote for something similiar.
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You mean other than this
All seriousness tho... This is an informative link to some folks involved in the anti-sopa movement.
At least in America I think we've become way too complacent. It's frightening what they could do with the bill that passed, but got floored, if just *one* man changed his mind.
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Thanks for the links. I've signed the petition as this not only affects those in the US.
narta said:
I second the notion. We are miles apart but the SOPA legislation is Fakd Up Bulsht. It's only a matter of time that our pathetic excuses for politicians here in europe vote for something similiar.
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the idea is pretty scary...it's especially disappointing seeing as we're talking about the US in this case censoring the web, while they criticise China for doing exactly that. So much for "freedom of speech"...
sort of sounds like this to me: "We gave you freedom of speech, so let us tell you how to use it."
Ay!
I believe everyone should join the black out including individuals who make it a point not to access a computer or smartphone.
I'm showing my support by using this app.
Boycott Sopa: http://goo.gl/RXtn6
it scans any product and see if it supports SOPA or not.
if it supports SOPA, I don't buy.
online petition lot of the times don't do much, but if show your support with your wallet, it hits home with these greedy corporations.
money is the only thing they understand... F'ers...
I'll be signing up when XDA goes live on the 18th.
SOPA can suck my...
Y U no read the Portal?
http://www.xda-developers.com/annou...8th-at-8am-you-can-help-bring-us-back-online/
neh4pres said:
many popular Web sites across the net are shutting down for 1 day on January 18th in protest of the 2 bills the united states government is trying to force through Congress. These bills would give the united states government the power to shut down entire Web sites, much like China does. This could even affect xda. Think of the government shutting xda down because some newb posts a file he shouldnt, or because a leak for a device specific os post is seen as infringement.
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Was just wondering how many of you all are against it and what will you be doing (if anything at all...) To show your support for being against it.
well, i have to do an essay about it for english lol. im against it.
Blackout Starts today. If you guys haven't signed Google's petition, (or any of the other ones that are out there) get on it. Just click the blackout logo on the Google Homepage or do it at the link below.
https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/
Not getting passed, Obama stated a few hours ago he's againced it.
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Why would I protest something I agree with?
/flame suit on
ryude said:
Why would I protest something I agree with?
/flame suit on
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Then just move to China, you'd love it there since you apparently hate having a justice system with due process and the concept of "innocent until proven guilty".
In an effort to help the fight against SOPA, I will do my best to blackout tonight.
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Not getting passed, Obama stated a few hours ago he's againced it.
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Man! I learned a thing of SOPA, "againced", thanks!
I sent the emails that I pledged to do on XDA and I signed the Google petition.
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In an effort to help the fight against SOPA, I will do my best to blackout tonight.
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LMAO!
I signed Google's and XDA's petition.
I tried calling Hinchey from home but his office is only 9-5 - Although I suspect he's likely to be one of the sane ones. He has a history of being independently funded.
I'm disappointed to see that Schumer and Gillibrand are known supporters, I'm going to have to call them.
I have Done the pledge here, Signed multiple petitions all over the interwebs, argued with many on facebook about voicing your opinion to your Rep. is going to get you farther than ranting and whining on FB, Have also emailed many Rep. from many states, I also tried to email the prez but couldnt find his email.
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I have Done the pledge here, Signed multiple petitions all over the interwebs, argued with many on facebook about voicing your opinion to your Rep. is going to get you farther than ranting and whining on FB, Have also emailed many Rep. from many states, I also tried to email the prez but couldnt find his email.
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[email protected]
I have been all over this on fb, G+ twitter and signed every petition everywhere.
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Not particularly concerned about Obaba - the White House has indicated they intend to veto.
Entropy512 said:
Not particularly concerned about Obaba - the White House has indicated they intend to veto.
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yea they only indicated that after the bill started loosing support left and right
It had citizen support at one time
Guess the ill-informed?
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It had citizen support at one time
Guess the ill-informed?
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where ? California?
I've signed 4 petitions today so far and changed all the backgrounds on every computer at work to a black screen that says "protect your internet rites! Stop SOPA & PIPA"
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Alucardis666 said:
I've signed 4 petitions today so far and changed all the backgrounds on every computer at work to a black screen that says "protect your internet rites! Stop SOPA & PIPA"
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I'm all V for Vendetta everywhere. I think this is just the beginning.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...:+DroidLife+(droid+life)&utm_content=FaceBook
This was reported in Droid life
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...:+DroidLife+(droid+life)&utm_content=FaceBook
This was reported in Droid life
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That looks like a dream come true, but I will stay awake until this happens. Thanks for the news mate.
I have heard similar stories, this is great news for those of us who aren't willing or can't spend $600 on a developer edition phone. I wonder how "soon" soon is ;-)
What are you confused about by the way?
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shimp208 said:
I have heard similar stories, this is great news for those of us who aren't willing or can't spend $600 on a developer edition phone. I wonder how "soon" soon is ;-)
What are you confused about by the way?
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I'm confused about: will they or won't they unlock it? I hope it's true...
Though some chats are very specific to the meaning behind unlock, I can't help but think that this means GSM unlock.
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Obviously I hope it's true but I severely doubt it. I mean, how often do low level customer service reps know info like that before we do? Out of the 6 people I talked to at vzw none even knew the phone was shipped early for pre orders...
Hopefully it's not a way to trick the masses into upgrading to block the way we get root now.
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Though some chats are very specific to the meaning behind unlock, I can't help but think that this means GSM unlock.
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This is what I'm thinking as they've been mentioning that specific unlock for some time as part of an early OTA update. I hope it's the bootloader that's really being discussed but I certainly have my doubts.
We can only wait and see.
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Not going to happen...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771335 (Read 2nd edit)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775707
maybe
Well, I don't believe it either, but there might be some light at the end of the tunnel. I went into chat and asked. I encourage as many people to do this just so verizon may realize there's a huge interest for it. To do this, just go to the verizon page and pretend you're buying the SIII. There's a button that says 'chat with rep', or just wait there for a minute and you will get a popup.
Here's my transcript... If you don't believe me, go do it yourself!
Please hold for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience.
You are now chatting with 'Alesha'
Mike: Hi! I'm interested in the S III but don't like it having the locked bootloader. Will Verizon release an update to unlock the bootloader?
Alesha: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Alesha: ?
Alesha: Yes
Mike: This isn't the GSM unlocker so you can use the phone wherever in the world, this is to unlock the bootloader to allow for developers, correct?
Alesha: Right
Mike: and is there an ETA on this?
Alesha: No information released
Mike: OK, well, thank you very much for the information!
Don't believe these Verizon reps for a second. Many of them can't think for themselves and only regurgitate what the higher ups tell them. I worked in their call center last year and most of my co-workers had no idea what rooting, roms, bootloaders, etc. were.
NOT happening.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...re-update-to-unlock-the-galaxy-s3-bootloader/
Not very optimistic:
Dear Alexander,
Thank you for taking the time to email in with regards to the Samsung Galaxy SIII. Alexander, my name is Nick. I hear you with regards to the locked bootloader situation. I too was hoping we would follow suit. Currently we will be offering the developers version of the SIII, which comes with a unlocked bootloader for our customers. I do hope that we make a change to the current model that is out, and that we unlock the bootloader, but currently there are no plans to do so. At the very least I hope that we at least consider selling the unlocked version in a subsidized manner with a contract, as opposed to selling it full retail through Samsung.
Your voices are being heard, and I hope we truly consider some other options for our customers in the development community. In the meantime, really, the only other option I can recommend is to maybe sell your SIII. I am sure you can find someone who may not be interested in the unlocked version, but would like to upgrade to that phone and not be under contract. Remember the 16 GB model starts at $599.99. Depending how much you paid, I would charge as much as possible for the phone since they are coming out on top without the contract, and use the money you get towards the unlocked version. It may not be ideal, but at least there are some options for now.
Thank you for being the best part of Verizon Wireless, Alexander. Take care and have a great week.
Sincerely,
Nick
Verizon Wireless
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Can't believe he told you to sell the device.
Yea, that was like a wtf moment. What I interpreted it as was "Buy device for $200, try to gamble it off for at least $400. Then go shell out another $200 and purchase the developer edition."
Not only does that void any chance of insurance but I would purchase the phone unsubsidized if I wanted a "Developer's Phone".
This is a new corporate low even their employees don't like their actions. I work for Apple, we would never tell our customers to do something like that.
EDIT: Just to clarify, no I am not an apple fanboy... I do not own an apple product. Not even an iPod. It's just my job to represent them.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...re-update-to-unlock-the-galaxy-s3-bootloader/
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/1...re-update-to-unlock-the-galaxy-s3-bootloader/
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Users please read the thread before posting. This link is already posted
The Evita has been available for nearly 3 months now. Is AT&T going to allow sanctioned bootloader unlocking? Was there any indication that after a period of time, the phone would be unlock able via HTC Dev? I'm considering selling my One X and never buying an At&T subsidized phone again, You are trying to come across as development friendly, but alas your flagship device sold in the United States is not unlock able.
Please advise without a canned response about carrier restrictions. I know all about that answer, I'd like a straight yes or no on this question please.
Lets see what I get in response
knowing the good folks at HTC you'll get the carrier crap...
heres to hoping tho
here's an idea, which is always fun. play the carrier against the manufacturer.
when they say its the carrier, go to the carrier and ask them, when each other blames it on each other, show them that's what going on. they hate.
Back when the phone launched I,along with a few other people filed complaints against AT&T with the BBB they went nowhere.
*sigh*
HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future. I do apologize that I do not have any further information at this time. I hope you enjoy your weekend,Gunnyman
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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Oh I did
I can per persistent as hell.
I just hate the thought of this awesome phone's dev community getting screwed without the benefit of even a reach around.
I'm in a very pissy mood today.
They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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I will say thanks for taking the plunge first ....I know I'm better off because of it ....
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They just stop replying after about ten replays..HTC doesn't care about customer post purchase,you already bought the phone....
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The a$$holes quit responding to me as well... I feel you gunny. I'm a lil worried about all this WP added everywhere .. they are sealing all our holes..
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So reply back saying that's the answer you didn't want and that you'll keep sending emails everyday until you get the truth.
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That is the truth. It's AT&T's fault. Start emailing them.
When I first got my phone and they gave me the generic customer satisfaction text I left negative feedback. If you leave below a certain score they will ask you why you wouldn't recommend the phone. I mentioned the bootloader and bloatware, as well as lack of Wallet support.
Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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Don't bother contacting AT&T. If it truly is AT&T forcing HTC to keep the bootloader locked then the sad reality is those of us that like to tinker are an extremely small minority in their portfolio. AT&T couldn't care less about appeasing us and, from a business standpoint, I don't blame them. Us tinkerers are the ones that install the Asian ROM and create a portable hotspot for an 8 hour drive down the state so their kids can stream Netflix on the iPad in the backseat, soaking up precious bandwidth that AT&T would like to charge me a boatload for. Totally random example, wasn't me last week.
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There may be more of us than you think. AT&T is about to give up on the added tethering plans for certain users. The new shared data family plans include tethering. You just pick your data cap and go.
Even though I've got grandfathered unlimited data, I may go for this when it's available. Adding up data totals for the three smartphones I'm paying for, we'll still save some money and get "free" tethering.
I feel the exact same way Gunny. My Nexus One was my first smart phone, and obviously, my first HTC. I had such a good experience, I went straight back to HTC for my next phone (this one) but it's clear now that the Nexus One was an anomaly in HTC's history. I'm thinking its going to be Nexus or Samsung devices only for me from now on. Not sure how much longer I can hold out with this device. If the damn camera wasn't so awesome I would have sold it months ago. =(
Billy
HTC can't do anything, it's not their fault. You should be contacting AT&T, not HTC.
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
blessedswine said:
im new to this phone so sorry if this is a noob question, but i rooted my phone and im assuming i unlocked the bootloader as im running cleanrom, to me the process was fairly easy to do, so whats the reason behind needing HTC to officially support unlocked bootloaders? will it give us the ability to do something more or make it easier to unlock?
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I have no idea. Either way it does affect yor warranty, so I'm not sure why others dont use the CID mod to unlock.
We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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We need a sanctioned method to unlock because the method we have now is not going to work on 2.2.0 and we should not have to scramble like iphone jailbreakers on supposedly open android whenever there's a software update
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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The One X is Android? It's so locked down, I could have sworn it was made by Apple.
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Exactly
Hey guys and gals! I saw this news article on a petition going around to help battle the issue with illegal phone unlocking (through carriers, not yourself). Regardless, sign it!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7
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Yeah I heard about this awhile ago, really sucks. I live in Canada though >
SIGNED
signed!
Is this still needed?
signed!
signed!
The Whitehouse has already responded in favor of this petition, you don't need to keep signing it.
The White House agrees with the 114,000+ of you who believe that consumers should be able to unlock their cell phones without risking criminal or other penalties.
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i read their responsive but they never said yes or no if they are making it legal or not
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I heard there is a bill which is being passed by white house soon, relating to legalizing phone unlocking it says that every customer has rights to unlock his/her phone.
This is also badly needed for windowsrt with restricted boot.
Huge need for making thus procedure legal.
This will be very helpful for many developers and for those who try to use new custom ROMS too!
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If I am Canadian, am I even allowed to sign this?