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Thoughts and experiences on Verizon!

Hi all, to start of I must say I absolutely love T-Mobile. However, they just do not have the network that can keep me happy. T-Mobile just can't contend with Verizon's 3g coverage or LTE's speed. I know t-mobile has the best customer service ever but that only goes so far. Verizon also has some bad ass phones coming out. With that being said I am seriously considering switching over to big red. I would like to know everyone's thoughts and concerns on their network and customer service.
Thanks in advance everyone!

Do whatever u want T-Mobile will no longer exist in less than a year.
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Scoop24 said:
Do whatever u want T-Mobile will no longer exist in less than a year.
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given the DOJ and FFC approve the merger.

mark manning said:
Hi all, to start of I must say I absolutely love T-Mobile. However, they just do not have the network that can keep me happy. T-Mobile just can't contend with Verizon's 3g coverage or LTE's speed. I know t-mobile has the best customer service ever but that only goes so far. Verizon also has some bad ass phones coming out. With that being said I am seriously considering switching over to big red. I would like to know everyone's thoughts and concerns on their network and customer service.
Thanks in advance everyone!
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VZW may have good network (in Most cases, but I have friends drop on VZW networks too), but I know their CUSTOMER SERVICE SUCK ASS!!!! I was with them for a while, I ABSOLUTELY HATE their CUSTOMER SERVICE... I rather talk with some human robot from India than VZW's customer service PERIOD!

Why is this in the MT4G section?

TeeJay3800 said:
Why is this in the MT4G section?
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same reason your and my post are here. Just because we wanted to.

TeeJay3800 said:
Why is this in the MT4G section?
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Idk maybe because I know you all, and trust your opinions. Hope thats ok.
Oh ya I own a mytouch 4G
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neidlinger said:
same reason your and my post are here. Just because we wanted to.
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That's a great way for forums to become a mess making it harder to find useful information. There's a reason forums like XDA have so many different sections. Posting something that has nothing to do with the MT4G in the MT4G section defies logic.

TeeJay3800 said:
That's a great way for forums to become a mess making it harder to find useful information. There's a reason forums like XDA have so many different sections. Posting something that has nothing to do with the MT4G in the MT4G section defies logic.
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Name if the sub forum is general. Therefore just about anything goes. Now if I owned a vibrant and posted here that might defy logic. Your kinda annoying sometimes
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TeeJay3800 said:
That's a great way for forums to become a mess making it harder to find useful information. There's a reason forums like XDA have so many different sections. Posting something that has nothing to do with the MT4G in the MT4G section defies logic.
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Have to agree with mark, this is the MyTouch 4G General section and it is a question about jumping MyTouch 4G to Big Red.
and we do spend alot of time trolling this forum so we learn to trust each other, and their respective opinions.

VZW is amazing, had them for two years before switching to TMO. Just be prepared to pay for it. As in bend over and say thank you sir may I have another.

neidlinger said:
Have to agree with mark, this is the MyTouch 4G General section and it is a question about jumping MyTouch 4G to Big Red.
and we do spend alot of time trolling this forum so we learn to trust each other, and their respective opinions.
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The MT4G wasn't mentioned until you brought it up in bold. The OP is talking only about carriers, not phones. If it was talking about the MT4G versus another phone, I'd understand, but it wasn't. To my mind, threads about one carrier versus another don't belong in a device-specific subforum, which is what this is. That being said, I don't see discussion going anywhere.

TeeJay3800 said:
The MT4G wasn't mentioned until you brought it up in bold. The OP is talking only about carriers, not phones. If it was talking about the MT4G versus another phone, I'd understand, but it wasn't. To my mind, threads about one carrier versus another don't belong in a device-specific subforum, which is what this is. That being said, I don't see discussion going anywhere.
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Umm.. its in my signature as to what phone I have. Considering we participate in the same threads on a daily basis, I'm surprised you don't recognize the name. Good thing we live in America and can agree to disagree.
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mark manning said:
Umm.. its in my signature as to what phone I have. Considering we participate in the same threads on a daily basis, I'm surprised you don't recognize the name. Good thing we live in America and can agree to disagree.
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Word. I think I have a point, but sorry I interrupted. Carry on.

neidlinger said:
given the DOJ and FFC approve the merger.
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Even if the DOJ or FCC don't allow it, T-Mobile as we know it is probably done. Deutsche Telekom has been trying to sell it and get out of the US market for several years.
They'd been in talks for quite a while to sell to Sprint, but that didn't work out. After that soured, they agreed on the deal with AT&T. Should this not go through, most of the experts seem to think they'll sell things off piecemeal to various carriers.
It's a sucky deal for those of us who like our T-Mobile service, but the writing is on the wall.
Many of us like T-Mobile for their low rates. Unfortunately, that's part of what's been killing them. They're not making much money, and despite with their low rates are continually losing customers. Even with free or nearly free smart phones and cheap data plans, they're hemmorhaging customers. Raising prices to be inline with other carriers would most likely result in a loss of profits and customer turnover increases even more.

BobbyHill said:
Even if the DOJ or FCC don't allow it, T-Mobile as we know it is probably done. Deutsche Telekom has been trying to sell it and get out of the US market for several years.
They'd been in talks for quite a while to sell to Sprint, but that didn't work out. After that soured, they agreed on the deal with AT&T. Should this not go through, most of the experts seem to think they'll sell things off piecemeal to various carriers.
It's a sucky deal for those of us who like our T-Mobile service, but the writing is on the wall.
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That's great info but what dies that have to do with Verizon?
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Scoop24 said:
Do whatever u want T-Mobile will no longer exist in less than a year.
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It might get considered as not competitive....

Its FCC right?
neidlinger said:
given the DOJ and FFC approve the merger.
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rockstarar said:
Its FCC right?
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Yes.. i have no idea why i posted that....

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Yes.. i have no idea why i posted that....
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Front facing camera did not approve the merger
MT4G + Ultimate Droid

banned from all lg sites.

Apparently LG banned me from their twitter,facebook and forums.
apparently they dont like when people point out their lies and continued stringing along of consumers.
I know the mods of their forum come here since they mentioned it.
so i want them to know they are pathetic. you dont even get a message you just cant log in anymore. on facebook if im not logged in the comment tag is there when i log in the coment tag disapears.
so apparetnly LG's fix for the G2x is to ban and silent those that are consistant in wanting answers. or repeating the truth of how they led on customers with the update to make them go over their 2 weeks(think this may of been the one that got them )
i did get one last comment in under the name droid1967 which was a link to the tmo news about an update so at least the people reading those forums got 1 piece of info this month that appears to be some actual information.

You better be nice. We'll ban your sorry whining butt from here too. How dare you ask for a phone that works. LOL
I better be careful myself. I've been pretty dogged in my dogging of the dogs as well. Did I actually just type that?
Did they communicate to you the fact that you were out?
I just made a post there saying I better be careful, I might get banned ....like you. It posted, so I haven't crossed their line. Yet.

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ickster said:
You better be nice. We'll ban your sorry whining butt from here too. How dare you ask for a phone that works. LOL
I better be careful myself. I've been pretty dogged in my dogging of the dogs as well. Did I actually just type that?
Did they communicate to you the fact that you were out?
I just made a post there saying I better be careful, I might get banned ....like you. It posted, so I haven't crossed their line. Yet.
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nothing they ip banned me too
i got that droid1967 one in than it wont log in again either.
I think you have been worse than me
I think it was the once tehy con enough to go over their 2 weeks than the update will just disapear.
smartphonegeek is the one that banned me im sure i see he posted right under that comment than i was banned within 15 minutes of his posting.
No biggy. those guys over there know nothing and are just the cooperate liers for their phone division. i hear that san diego trip was a class to better use 1000 words without actually giving any info. since they failed with the by summer they were suppose to leave it at the by summer instead of hinting it actaully meant by summer so he had to go to a retraining course.
and that title i always thought the GEEK meant you actaully knew something about what it was associated with.
I think maybe i should not of used the same nick to post at the forum,twitter and facebook think gettting hit on all three may of got to them
well keep giving them hell for me

I figured both of you guys were gonna get banned at some point, but I didn't know they would ban you from all their sites . I feel bad that those two mods are the only LG/T-Mo folks on the entire internet bearing the brunt of the attacks (though they are well deserved). Their company pretty much threw them to the wolves with no information at all for the public. The silence from LG has irreparably tarnished their image in my eyes and ensured that I'll never purchase another of their products. The G2x is fantastic though, once you get CM7 on it.

dont feel bad eagle, ive been banned from tmobile g2x forum twice....both times heading out as the number 1 kudos'd author....some people liked what i had to say.....apparently not tmobile....haha

"I think you have been worse than me"...."I figured both of you guys were gonna get banned at some point,....."
Awww, c'mon you guys, I'm not that bad. Am I? LOL.
Honestly, you should see the things I type that I don't actually send ha ha! I think I'm fair in my complaints though.

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laker666 said:
dont feel bad eagle, ive been banned from tmobile g2x forum twice....both times heading out as the number 1 kudos'd author....some people liked what i had to say.....apparently not tmobile....haha
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yeah i saw someone asking about you i didnt see any of your posts.
im 3rd on the kudos i think but also pushing there. but at least they are adults not kids like lG saying dont play in our sandbox.
Im surprised you got banned from there but i dont know what you said
i have 2 other ip's i can access from and emails are a dime a minute. so ill monitor and ill get back there to tell them what i really think of them, since i didnt really before , we were just alll showing we are fed up hoping something would happen. but I guess LG's way of fixing things with customers is quieting the knowledable ones so the less knowledagble will fall for their bs.
They think i said something bad before. they havent seen anything yet. i will gather everyone of their lies and dates and show how they do indeed string their customers along. I will go through for everyphone they have and will send these examples to every blog and website just before i post it on their site.
im actaully surprised smartphonepissant could even figure out how to ban me. he must of called up someone that actully knows something.

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ickster said:
"I think you have been worse than me"...."I figured both of you guys were gonna get banned at some point,....."
Awww, c'mon you guys, I'm not that bad. Am I? LOL.
Honestly, you should see the things I type that I don't actually send ha ha! I think I'm fair in my complaints though.
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yeah wish i would of hit the send button instead of delete now.
just wait for my final post it will be a good one. but ill have to do some research first. If dumbphonewimpass wants a war hell get one.
wish i could ban some family members i have to deal with for my patients. but guess what i deal with and most of the time its not even justified. as it is with LG.
not my fault they are the ones that get paid to lie and mislead but they know what they are doing and to have the nerve to ban someone that never used a curse word or actually called them out directly is just sad and pathetic.(ok maybe i did call their lack of knowledge out )
if there were people that were upset with what i said that would be 1 thing. but i think since 98% agreed and made similair comments its just laughable what a piece of @#$% company. LG --Like Gnats (just a pest we have to live with.)

If all they did was IP block you, pm me
I have an IP rerouting software that will have them thinking you
Move all around the globe at lightning fast speed.
And unless they block the usernar you can keep giving them hell under the droid1967 call sign.
Mahgninnuc

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mahgninnuc93 said:
If all they did was IP block you, pm me
I have an IP rerouting software that will have them thinking you
Move all around the globe at lightning fast speed.
And unless they block the usernar you can keep giving them hell under the droid1967 call sign.
Mahgninnuc
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pm dropped

T-mobile blocked me from posting comments on their Facebook page. I was hammering them down looking for answers of why they called me at 6am. T-mobile refuses to accept they made a mistake and acknowledge it, instead they choose to shut you up
ITS ALL WONKY!!!

They just posted a reply that says you were not banned........

eagle1967 said:
pm dropped
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this i like i was gonna suggest something different, he beat me to it.........eagle keep doing your thing brotha

Yea I'm banned on tmobiles fb I've been on LGs fb for a minute now still going I said mad **** too
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icecicle04 said:
Yea I'm banned on tmobiles fb I've been on LGs fb for a minute now still going I said mad **** too
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haha yea me too bro **** they were deleting the **** on twitter as soon as it went on, quick bastards

Yeah I see that want to post on there that I can not log in and when I made the drois1967 one to post that Tmonews info it would not log in again either. And I just tried again no dice. If this is a mistake I'll appoligise personally but at this point I am still unable to log into anything
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Lg doesn't have gingerbread on any of its phones yet. Its been 6 months since gingerbread came out.

nikhil4186 said:
Lg doesn't have gingerbread on any of its phones yet. Its been 6 months since gingerbread came out.
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your point being???

sarni84 said:
your point being???
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Point we don't need nostinkin point
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eagle1967 said:
Apparently LG banned me from their twitter,facebook and forum
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You Dont neeed no steeenkeeng software
Anonymouse.com
Its free, just x out the popups
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Protesting SOPA

Was just wondering how many of you all are against it and what will you be doing (if anything at all...) To show your support for being against it.

well, i have to do an essay about it for english lol. im against it.

Blackout Starts today. If you guys haven't signed Google's petition, (or any of the other ones that are out there) get on it. Just click the blackout logo on the Google Homepage or do it at the link below.
https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

Not getting passed, Obama stated a few hours ago he's againced it.
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Why would I protest something I agree with?
/flame suit on

ryude said:
Why would I protest something I agree with?
/flame suit on
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Then just move to China, you'd love it there since you apparently hate having a justice system with due process and the concept of "innocent until proven guilty".

In an effort to help the fight against SOPA, I will do my best to blackout tonight.

sythe179 said:
Not getting passed, Obama stated a few hours ago he's againced it.
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Man! I learned a thing of SOPA, "againced", thanks!

I sent the emails that I pledged to do on XDA and I signed the Google petition.

PuffinNugz said:
In an effort to help the fight against SOPA, I will do my best to blackout tonight.
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LMAO!
I signed Google's and XDA's petition.

I tried calling Hinchey from home but his office is only 9-5 - Although I suspect he's likely to be one of the sane ones. He has a history of being independently funded.
I'm disappointed to see that Schumer and Gillibrand are known supporters, I'm going to have to call them.

I have Done the pledge here, Signed multiple petitions all over the interwebs, argued with many on facebook about voicing your opinion to your Rep. is going to get you farther than ranting and whining on FB, Have also emailed many Rep. from many states, I also tried to email the prez but couldnt find his email.

tory13579 said:
I have Done the pledge here, Signed multiple petitions all over the interwebs, argued with many on facebook about voicing your opinion to your Rep. is going to get you farther than ranting and whining on FB, Have also emailed many Rep. from many states, I also tried to email the prez but couldnt find his email.
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[email protected]

I have been all over this on fb, G+ twitter and signed every petition everywhere.
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Not particularly concerned about Obaba - the White House has indicated they intend to veto.

Entropy512 said:
Not particularly concerned about Obaba - the White House has indicated they intend to veto.
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yea they only indicated that after the bill started loosing support left and right

It had citizen support at one time
Guess the ill-informed?

tory13579 said:
It had citizen support at one time
Guess the ill-informed?
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where ? California?

I've signed 4 petitions today so far and changed all the backgrounds on every computer at work to a black screen that says "protect your internet rites! Stop SOPA & PIPA"
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Alucardis666 said:
I've signed 4 petitions today so far and changed all the backgrounds on every computer at work to a black screen that says "protect your internet rites! Stop SOPA & PIPA"
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I'm all V for Vendetta everywhere. I think this is just the beginning.

Unknown.

So I went to a few stores today that sells att phones. I asked everyone in all 5 of the stores about the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Note LTE, noone even knew about it as if it will be coming out 6 years from now -.- noone knew there was one even coming out let alone the name :/ it kind of makes me sad when the consumer knows more then the sales reps. They should train more in my opinion this was just my little experiance for the day just thought I'd share. Anyone else looking forward to the note lte for att?
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Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps are always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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KayxGee1 said:
In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps at always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics

Bush715 said:
Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics
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That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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KayxGee1 said:
That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.

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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.
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I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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KayxGee1 said:
I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha

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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha
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Haha yea I understand. I never ask about a device until it's all over the internet and comfirmed by many sources. That's like calling HTC and asking about the rumored Edge.
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I even tried bestbuy lol and the guys words were "our phone tech isn't here today he will be here tomorrow from 12-6" I live 40 mins away from anything so its not in my best choice to go back but anywho I go to the same att retailer when I buy my phones. They know me there and come at me quick because I don't just come in to buy a cheap pantech crossover I'm there with cash in hand and buy phones straight up xD so they are always willing to help. When I went in to buy my Sony xperia play 4g I handed her my iPhone to Bluetooth my contacts, she looked at my iPhone and her exact words were "what the F is this" it was running wp7 xD Haha but in all seriousness I think someone should be hired in the certain area. It'd be like hiring me to sell cars or ovens when I know nothing about them, I feel like they just hire anyone :/ I went to buy a computer once and the worker argued for 30 minutes that 512mb was a gigabyte :/ I shook my head and took my business elsewhere I just don't understand... sometimes I wish everyone cared about a phone as much as we do... instead of "as long as I can listen to music watch YouTube and look at porn, I don't care what it looks like or what it does" :'( I honestly just want to teach everyone for free so I don't feel so smart and dumb at the same time. anyone else feel that way?
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phzi said:
Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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I agree. I've perused tablets in Best Buy and after engaging the nearest 'team member' for less than 3 minutes, I realize that I know more than they do.
It's the same experience when going to the auto parts store. There are some people who can carry on informed conversation, but 90% are the type who watch fast & furious movies in awe, and know nothing about repair or maintenance or they can only look up part numbers.
Basically, lower your expectations.

This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.

I Am Marino said:
This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.
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I have had similar experience with applying for jobs at auto parts stores. The 'now hiring' sign is displayed for several months and the staff changes about every 3 weeks, but I never get called. For a while there was an older woman who not only knew nothing about cars but she also needed help to use the computer program to look up parts.
I finally realized that these people will work for less money than I will because I actually know what I am doing. It really is sad that people with any level of technical or mechanical ability don't actually work at the retail level because they can't get enough money.
And don't get me started on the people who work at Home Depot . .

I have no past work experiance. I'm 19 years old have been the "bad" kid because I used to be a "black magic" hacker I've gotten introuble from schools best buys and targets because of it but now I'm past all that I do phones tablets anything mobile. There is never a time when I'm in best buy that I'm back in the computer/phone area and usually an older citizen is talking to a sales Rep about which one is better and the sales Rep says well product A is $1299 with 4gb ram touchscreen is way better then product B $899 8gb ram and so on but they go by the price as the sales Rep was walking her to the register I kindly walked up and said "hello ma'am I noticed you were interested in two different so-so" the sales Rep called the manager and had me kicked out for costing him the sale xD but they wont hire me? I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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i have to say i agree not many of the people in the stores even know about the phones they have in front of them much less whats coming out.

toxicpaulution said:
... I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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I don't mean to overstep the rules of polite conversation but you may wish to think about your image. It isn't fair that we judge based on looks, but it happens.
*Edit - When I say looks I also means assumptions that people will make of others based on their prejudices. -*End Edit
Most recently, I applied for a job repairing projectors. During the interview they kept asking me about how well I would transition to an office environment. Completely Ridiculous! I would be working in the workshop not the office and I happened to be better dressed than any of my interviewers.
Basically, some people cannot see past their little world or people they can understand.

Man Verizon store by me they don't know anything. And they are jerks as well. Went to upgrade my moms phone and said she wouldn't get unlimited data with her Droid 3 so I just bought it from newegg called up and boom she got her unlimited data. Never going back to that store again. Hate how now you have to bring phone to store to get replaced.
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toxicpaulution said:
They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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Frig no, we need no more non technical people. Like how not everyone is cut out for engineering or medicine, not everyone is cut out for xda.
$1 gets you a reply

I'm not saying everyone join xda but if you going to sell something atleast know alittle about the past present and the future you can't be like well I'm sorry I don't know about cars from 2011 back I only know about the 2012 Ford focus and that's all sorry can't work on you're car -.-
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Does owner of Titanium Backup drive a Lamborghini?

Hey guys I was looking in the play store and I saw that titanium backup pro key has 500,000+ downloads while its charged at $6.58. So the founder of it must be pretty rich and probably drives a Lamborghini or Ferrari, right?
500,000 x 6.58 = $3,290,000

triplexkush said:
Hey guys I was looking in the play store and I saw that titanium backup pro key has 500,000+ downloads while its charged at $6.58. So the founder of it must be pretty rich and probably drives a Lamborghini or Ferrari, right?
500,000 x 6.58 = $3,290,000
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On behalf of crazyxd
Brain damage...
Take this talk to the off topic forum.
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MrGriffdude said:
On behalf of crazyxd
Brain damage...
Take this talk to the off topic forum.
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Or someone could start a "Stupid Question" thread. It keeps getting mentioned but I haven't seen one here yet. They do exist in other sub-forums. This one actually got stickied:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494423

hechoen said:
Or someone could start a "Stupid Question" thread. It keeps getting mentioned but I haven't seen one here yet. They do exist in other sub-forums. This one actually got stickied:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494423
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This should be the stupid question thread lol
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triplexkush said:
Hey guys I was looking in the play store and I saw that titanium backup pro key has 500,000+ downloads while its charged at $6.58. So the founder of it must be pretty rich and probably drives a Lamborghini or Ferrari, right?
500,000 x 6.58 = $3,290,000
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I'll take a stab at this ... lets assume that he gets 100% of the proceeds from sales (based on your maths above).
Now, lets take taxes into consideration. But, before we do that we have to know over what time frame these sales occurred. Tax brackets are based on your annual income, so this is important. The best I can determine is that the first release was sometime in 2010. So lets assume it's three years old.
Lets also assume they consistently sell the same amount of licenses per year at the same price for simplicity's sake.
3,290,000 / 3 = $1,096,666 per year.
That puts them smack into the highest tax bracket of 39.6% per year. So ...
$1,096,666 * .396 = $434,248 paid in taxes. Also, assuming they keep good books and aren't too clever with their taxes, investments, write off's ect. Too many variables to consider here.
So, that means, that before paying staff, paying overhead (again which deals with complexity of write-offs, deductions, etc so we'll skip that) they pulled in:
$1,096,666 - $434,248 = $663,386
Now you have to factor in misc living expenses such as mortgage, utilities, beer, etc ...
IIMHO ..... No, they do not drive exotic sports cars. But they could very well be living comfortably when you consider the median US household income is only $50,233.00.
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybu...deral-income-tax-brackets-and-marginal-rates/

car vs driver said:
I'll take a stab at this ... lets assume that he gets 100% of the proceeds from sales (based on your maths above).
Now, lets take taxes into consideration. But, before we do that we have to know over what time frame these sales occurred. Tax brackets are based on your annual income, so this is important. The best I can determine is that the first release was sometime in 2010. So lets assume it's three years old.
Lets also assume they consistently sell the same amount of licenses per year at the same price for simplicity's sake.
3,290,000 / 3 = $1,096,666 per year.
That puts them smack into the highest tax bracket of 39.6% per year. So ...
$1,096,666 * .396 = $434,248 paid in taxes. Also, assuming they keep good books and aren't too clever with their taxes, investments, write off's ect. Too many variables to consider here.
So, that means, that before paying staff, paying overhead (again which deals with complexity of write-offs, deductions, etc so we'll skip that) they pulled in:
$1,096,666 - $434,248 = $663,386
Now you have to factor in misc living expenses such as mortgage, utilities, beer, etc ...
IIMHO ..... No, they do not drive exotic sports cars. But they could very well be living comfortably when you consider the median US household income is only $50,233.00.
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybu...deral-income-tax-brackets-and-marginal-rates/
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That's dedication right there.
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And shows the power of searching!
Edit: and having too much free time
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jd1639 said:
And shows the power of searching!
Edit: and having too much free time
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LOL!
In my defense, I was "multi-tasking" while on a conference call.

car vs driver said:
LOL!
In my defense, I was "multi-tasking" while on a conference call.
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I think we call that 'not paying attention to the call'
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whosgotlag said:
I think we call that 'not paying attention to the call'
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Some can focus on more than a singular task. I know that sounds tricky to you but for others its necessary to make things happen.
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mtdew said:
Some can focus on more than a singular task. I know that sounds tricky to you but for others its necessary to make things happen.
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I think I read once that although people think they can multitask, the human brain isn't capable if doing it. And one or both tasks will suffer as a result. Just my 2 pennies.

Computers also can't do it, and the tasks suffer. It's called "context switch overhead". However, if the processors are fast enough - you can lose the overhead and still be capable of doing whatever phones are doing these days.

Doesn't matter, question answered.
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car vs driver said:
Doesn't matter, question answered.
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Yes sir didn't mean to bother you sir. Sir yes sir, sir.... His name was Robert Paulson.

rbk7 said:
Yes sir didn't mean to bother you sir. Sir yes sir, sir.... His name was Robert Paulson.
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This. It made me laugh.
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car vs driver said:
Tax brackets are based on your annual income, so this is important. The best I can determine is that the first release was sometime in 2010. So lets assume it's three years old.
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Well... if it matters, in September of 2010, he was still selling licenses outside of the Play store (you had to pay via his site and wait on an registration file)...

Doesn't the math depend on what play considers a download? Are multiple downloads by the same account treated as one?

smock9 said:
Doesn't the math depend on what play considers a download? Are multiple downloads by the same account treated as one?
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I had this exact thought. A lot of people download TB whenever they clean flash a new Rom. If each of these counts toward a unique download, I've contributed at least 30 to that count.
And what about updates? Do those count individually too?
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