Hey guys I was looking in the play store and I saw that titanium backup pro key has 500,000+ downloads while its charged at $6.58. So the founder of it must be pretty rich and probably drives a Lamborghini or Ferrari, right?
500,000 x 6.58 = $3,290,000
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Hey guys I was looking in the play store and I saw that titanium backup pro key has 500,000+ downloads while its charged at $6.58. So the founder of it must be pretty rich and probably drives a Lamborghini or Ferrari, right?
500,000 x 6.58 = $3,290,000
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Brain damage...
Take this talk to the off topic forum.
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On behalf of crazyxd
Brain damage...
Take this talk to the off topic forum.
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Or someone could start a "Stupid Question" thread. It keeps getting mentioned but I haven't seen one here yet. They do exist in other sub-forums. This one actually got stickied:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494423
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Or someone could start a "Stupid Question" thread. It keeps getting mentioned but I haven't seen one here yet. They do exist in other sub-forums. This one actually got stickied:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494423
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This should be the stupid question thread lol
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triplexkush said:
Hey guys I was looking in the play store and I saw that titanium backup pro key has 500,000+ downloads while its charged at $6.58. So the founder of it must be pretty rich and probably drives a Lamborghini or Ferrari, right?
500,000 x 6.58 = $3,290,000
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I'll take a stab at this ... lets assume that he gets 100% of the proceeds from sales (based on your maths above).
Now, lets take taxes into consideration. But, before we do that we have to know over what time frame these sales occurred. Tax brackets are based on your annual income, so this is important. The best I can determine is that the first release was sometime in 2010. So lets assume it's three years old.
Lets also assume they consistently sell the same amount of licenses per year at the same price for simplicity's sake.
3,290,000 / 3 = $1,096,666 per year.
That puts them smack into the highest tax bracket of 39.6% per year. So ...
$1,096,666 * .396 = $434,248 paid in taxes. Also, assuming they keep good books and aren't too clever with their taxes, investments, write off's ect. Too many variables to consider here.
So, that means, that before paying staff, paying overhead (again which deals with complexity of write-offs, deductions, etc so we'll skip that) they pulled in:
$1,096,666 - $434,248 = $663,386
Now you have to factor in misc living expenses such as mortgage, utilities, beer, etc ...
IIMHO ..... No, they do not drive exotic sports cars. But they could very well be living comfortably when you consider the median US household income is only $50,233.00.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybu...deral-income-tax-brackets-and-marginal-rates/
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I'll take a stab at this ... lets assume that he gets 100% of the proceeds from sales (based on your maths above).
Now, lets take taxes into consideration. But, before we do that we have to know over what time frame these sales occurred. Tax brackets are based on your annual income, so this is important. The best I can determine is that the first release was sometime in 2010. So lets assume it's three years old.
Lets also assume they consistently sell the same amount of licenses per year at the same price for simplicity's sake.
3,290,000 / 3 = $1,096,666 per year.
That puts them smack into the highest tax bracket of 39.6% per year. So ...
$1,096,666 * .396 = $434,248 paid in taxes. Also, assuming they keep good books and aren't too clever with their taxes, investments, write off's ect. Too many variables to consider here.
So, that means, that before paying staff, paying overhead (again which deals with complexity of write-offs, deductions, etc so we'll skip that) they pulled in:
$1,096,666 - $434,248 = $663,386
Now you have to factor in misc living expenses such as mortgage, utilities, beer, etc ...
IIMHO ..... No, they do not drive exotic sports cars. But they could very well be living comfortably when you consider the median US household income is only $50,233.00.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybu...deral-income-tax-brackets-and-marginal-rates/
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That's dedication right there.
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And shows the power of searching!
Edit: and having too much free time
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And shows the power of searching!
Edit: and having too much free time
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LOL!
In my defense, I was "multi-tasking" while on a conference call.
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LOL!
In my defense, I was "multi-tasking" while on a conference call.
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I think we call that 'not paying attention to the call'
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I think we call that 'not paying attention to the call'
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Some can focus on more than a singular task. I know that sounds tricky to you but for others its necessary to make things happen.
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Some can focus on more than a singular task. I know that sounds tricky to you but for others its necessary to make things happen.
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I think I read once that although people think they can multitask, the human brain isn't capable if doing it. And one or both tasks will suffer as a result. Just my 2 pennies.
Computers also can't do it, and the tasks suffer. It's called "context switch overhead". However, if the processors are fast enough - you can lose the overhead and still be capable of doing whatever phones are doing these days.
Doesn't matter, question answered.
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Doesn't matter, question answered.
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Yes sir didn't mean to bother you sir. Sir yes sir, sir.... His name was Robert Paulson.
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Yes sir didn't mean to bother you sir. Sir yes sir, sir.... His name was Robert Paulson.
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This. It made me laugh.
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Tax brackets are based on your annual income, so this is important. The best I can determine is that the first release was sometime in 2010. So lets assume it's three years old.
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Well... if it matters, in September of 2010, he was still selling licenses outside of the Play store (you had to pay via his site and wait on an registration file)...
Doesn't the math depend on what play considers a download? Are multiple downloads by the same account treated as one?
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Doesn't the math depend on what play considers a download? Are multiple downloads by the same account treated as one?
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I had this exact thought. A lot of people download TB whenever they clean flash a new Rom. If each of these counts toward a unique download, I've contributed at least 30 to that count.
And what about updates? Do those count individually too?
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Related
Although I quit the game I did have alot of stuff purchased. So out of curiosity I downloaded the newest update. Apparently all my stuff is gone along with every other user who updated.
Sadly I should have seen this coming because it definitely was not the first time.
Microtransactions are also way higher than the iPhone version.
Anyways just letting people know it's not a good idea to ever give Glu money.
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Edit. Nevermind they restored my stuff. Have to send them a email.
Still. Don't spend money on them.
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Supporting crap like this just makes the market worse for ever....
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Supporting crap like this just makes the market worse for ever....
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The whole world is going micro-transaction at this point simply because dev's know it's an easy way to leech money off kids using their mom's credit cards. It's sad, frustrating, and annoying. I'd rather pay $5 up front for a good app then having someone charge me $.36 for new armor or something silly like that.
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The whole world is going micro-transaction at this point simply because dev's know it's an easy way to leech money off kids using their mom's credit cards. It's sad, frustrating, and annoying. I'd rather pay $5 up front for a good app then having someone charge me $.36 for new armor or something silly like that.
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Games like Cordy still have Microtransactions even after you get the full version but at least the game is complete
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many popular Web sites across the net are shutting down for 1 day on January 18th in protest of the 2 bills the united states government is trying to force through Congress. These bills would give the united states government the power to shut down entire Web sites, much like China does. This could even affect xda. Think of the government shutting xda down because some newb posts a file he shouldnt, or because a leak for a device specific os post is seen as infringement.
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They have already joined.... The force is strong with this one.
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itsbeertimenow said:
They have already joined.... The force is strong with this one.
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thanks. That's awesome
edit. I think there is healthy discussion. Please keep thread open
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thanks. That's awesome
Mods. You can delete this topic
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Lol
I really like the force comment.
Someone missed the memo.
Is there more info about this somewhere?
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You mean other than this
All seriousness tho... This is an informative link to some folks involved in the anti-sopa movement.
At least in America I think we've become way too complacent. It's frightening what they could do with the bill that passed, but got floored, if just *one* man changed his mind.
Not long until it hits England I reckon. Can't believe we are extraditing a 23 year old to America over piracy... sad times.
Waste of time imho. People who are against SOPA should be out there educating people. The more people understand the more influence we have. If there is a blackout for a day a lot of people will overlook it.
hi, I ve read the announce from different site... however i still wondering how xda users from outside USA can do to support the mouvement... we are a lot!
Any idea?
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fragargon said:
hi, I ve read the announce from different site... however i still wondering how xda users from outside USA can do to support the mouvement... we are a lot!
Any idea?
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I second the notion. We are miles apart but the SOPA legislation is Fakd Up Bulsht. It's only a matter of time that our pathetic excuses for politicians here in europe vote for something similiar.
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You mean other than this
All seriousness tho... This is an informative link to some folks involved in the anti-sopa movement.
At least in America I think we've become way too complacent. It's frightening what they could do with the bill that passed, but got floored, if just *one* man changed his mind.
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Thanks for the links. I've signed the petition as this not only affects those in the US.
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I second the notion. We are miles apart but the SOPA legislation is Fakd Up Bulsht. It's only a matter of time that our pathetic excuses for politicians here in europe vote for something similiar.
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the idea is pretty scary...it's especially disappointing seeing as we're talking about the US in this case censoring the web, while they criticise China for doing exactly that. So much for "freedom of speech"...
sort of sounds like this to me: "We gave you freedom of speech, so let us tell you how to use it."
Ay!
I believe everyone should join the black out including individuals who make it a point not to access a computer or smartphone.
I'm showing my support by using this app.
Boycott Sopa: http://goo.gl/RXtn6
it scans any product and see if it supports SOPA or not.
if it supports SOPA, I don't buy.
online petition lot of the times don't do much, but if show your support with your wallet, it hits home with these greedy corporations.
money is the only thing they understand... F'ers...
I'll be signing up when XDA goes live on the 18th.
SOPA can suck my...
Y U no read the Portal?
http://www.xda-developers.com/annou...8th-at-8am-you-can-help-bring-us-back-online/
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many popular Web sites across the net are shutting down for 1 day on January 18th in protest of the 2 bills the united states government is trying to force through Congress. These bills would give the united states government the power to shut down entire Web sites, much like China does. This could even affect xda. Think of the government shutting xda down because some newb posts a file he shouldnt, or because a leak for a device specific os post is seen as infringement.
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Was just wondering how many of you all are against it and what will you be doing (if anything at all...) To show your support for being against it.
well, i have to do an essay about it for english lol. im against it.
Blackout Starts today. If you guys haven't signed Google's petition, (or any of the other ones that are out there) get on it. Just click the blackout logo on the Google Homepage or do it at the link below.
https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/
Not getting passed, Obama stated a few hours ago he's againced it.
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Why would I protest something I agree with?
/flame suit on
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Why would I protest something I agree with?
/flame suit on
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Then just move to China, you'd love it there since you apparently hate having a justice system with due process and the concept of "innocent until proven guilty".
In an effort to help the fight against SOPA, I will do my best to blackout tonight.
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Not getting passed, Obama stated a few hours ago he's againced it.
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Man! I learned a thing of SOPA, "againced", thanks!
I sent the emails that I pledged to do on XDA and I signed the Google petition.
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In an effort to help the fight against SOPA, I will do my best to blackout tonight.
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LMAO!
I signed Google's and XDA's petition.
I tried calling Hinchey from home but his office is only 9-5 - Although I suspect he's likely to be one of the sane ones. He has a history of being independently funded.
I'm disappointed to see that Schumer and Gillibrand are known supporters, I'm going to have to call them.
I have Done the pledge here, Signed multiple petitions all over the interwebs, argued with many on facebook about voicing your opinion to your Rep. is going to get you farther than ranting and whining on FB, Have also emailed many Rep. from many states, I also tried to email the prez but couldnt find his email.
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I have Done the pledge here, Signed multiple petitions all over the interwebs, argued with many on facebook about voicing your opinion to your Rep. is going to get you farther than ranting and whining on FB, Have also emailed many Rep. from many states, I also tried to email the prez but couldnt find his email.
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[email protected]
I have been all over this on fb, G+ twitter and signed every petition everywhere.
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Not particularly concerned about Obaba - the White House has indicated they intend to veto.
Entropy512 said:
Not particularly concerned about Obaba - the White House has indicated they intend to veto.
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yea they only indicated that after the bill started loosing support left and right
It had citizen support at one time
Guess the ill-informed?
tory13579 said:
It had citizen support at one time
Guess the ill-informed?
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where ? California?
I've signed 4 petitions today so far and changed all the backgrounds on every computer at work to a black screen that says "protect your internet rites! Stop SOPA & PIPA"
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Alucardis666 said:
I've signed 4 petitions today so far and changed all the backgrounds on every computer at work to a black screen that says "protect your internet rites! Stop SOPA & PIPA"
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I'm all V for Vendetta everywhere. I think this is just the beginning.
Say It ain't so Verizon
What The ****
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order
http://gawker.com/nsa-secretly-collecting-phone-records-from-every-verizo-511561485
Wow...just. Wow
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Don't think for a second this is limited to VZW
SirVilhelm said:
Don't think for a second this is limited to VZW
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Exactly. AMERICA!
They've been doing this secretly for awhile.
clean Rom/xda powerd by zero-lemon & tweaked out Guided by the power of Zeus kernel!!
No big surprise here at all. I do wonder when do they have time to go through all of this information?
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The government sucks. Did y'all know the reason why walkie talkies are no more, is because they CANT trace those calls. I used to work at boost, all the drug dealers (not the normal street guy, but the guy from a mexican cartel) would buy cheap throw away phone since they killed walkie talkie. every week i would sell these guys a good 20 phones. Was mainly blackberries. I wonder why.
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you should assume that any electronic communications that you do, is not private.
Has anyone actually looked at their tos (terms of service) to see if this IS legitmately a breach of contract? I'm not surprised nor do I ultimately care that I'm being recorded...I figured as much but I have nothing to hide either. What DOES upset me is that we were not notified of such....Most states require that we must let the other party know if we are recording them...but then the government totally blows that off and just does it without our knowledge (even if we pretty much assumed they did)....and the whole lets sacrifice our privacy in order to offer better security for our country...uh no...I don't trust anyone but myself, wife and daughter for my security heh. Again....just curious as to if anyone has checked or knows of the actual legalities of this and if it IS indeed a breach of contract.
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Old news boys, take a look here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
Ho hummm...... the NSA has been intercepting all our calls and processing the voice and data for many years now, so Verizon forking over a few bills and records doesn't mean a lot .
Its all covered by the Intelligence Oversight Act which says that congress has oversight and must be informed , so they are all complicit in this violation of our constitutional rights, so who you gonna call, the UN?
They'll certainly be bored with my records. I haven't used 50 minutes in two years. Data, on the other hand, is a different story
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They'll certainly be bored with my records. I haven't used 50 minutes in two years. Data, on the other hand, is a different story
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Pretty much I talk to only a few people. Texting is pretty much the same. Data with me is pretty much it also
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salas2324 said:
The government sucks. Did y'all know the reason why walkie talkies are no more, is because they CANT trace those calls. I used to work at boost, all the drug dealers (not the normal street guy, but the guy from a mexican cartel) would buy cheap throw away phone since they killed walkie talkie. every week i would sell these guys a good 20 phones. Was mainly blackberries. I wonder why.
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What am I reading? I can walk into any Radio Shack and buy a walkie talkie. I can also buy a HAM and many other two way radios.
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What am I reading? I can walk into any Radio Shack and buy a walkie talkie. I can also buy a HAM and many other two way radios.
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i believe he was referring to the old nextel type things.
Ahhhh, ok
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Pretty much I talk to only a few people. Texting is pretty much the same. Data with me is pretty much it also
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Same here.
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Has anyone actually looked at their tos (terms of service) to see if this IS legitmately a breach of contract? I'm not surprised nor do I ultimately care that I'm being recorded...I figured as much but I have nothing to hide either. What DOES upset me is that we were not notified of such....Most states require that we must let the other party know if we are recording them...but then the government totally blows that off and just does it without our knowledge (even if we pretty much assumed they did)....and the whole lets sacrifice our privacy in order to offer better security for our country...uh no...I don't trust anyone but myself, wife and daughter for my security heh. Again....just curious as to if anyone has checked or knows of the actual legalities of this and if it IS indeed a breach of contract.
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Do you think people can get out of contract without have to pay early term fee because of this?
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Do you think people can get out of contract without have to pay early term fee because of this?
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Does seem to be a "materially adverse change" or at the very least, adverse.
The average person will forget about it anyway.
I'm not sure if this type of thread is allowed, but I didn't see a more appropriate section to post it. I'm an 18 year old student who like many of you knows a good deal about cell phones and electronics. Because of this, I thought getting a job at AT&T, or any other cell phone retailer wouldn't be a bad idea. I hear you get commission, and I'm confident I could do well. I'm just wondering if anyone could share some information about requirements and likelihood of getting hired.
Dnt tke a job like that selling phones is not a career nd anythn more that u will still need a degree go to college or join the service jus dnt sale phones because u like phones and think you know alot...side note if you coould crack this boot loader issue att may hire u jus on that bases kinda like how apple did that famous jailbreakrr js
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I'm not sure if this type of thread is allowed, but I didn't see a more appropriate section to post it. I'm an 18 year old student who like many of you knows a good deal about cell phones and electronics. Because of this, I thought getting a job at AT&T, or any other cell phone retailer wouldn't be a bad idea. I hear you get commission, and I'm confident I could do well. I'm just wondering if anyone could share some information about requirements and likelihood of getting hired.
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I'll just say, you want to be the guy that goes to the store to BUY the phone full retail (or whatever) not the other guy that has to sell it to that dude.
like Marshall24 said, if you can tamper with the bootloader and understand how everything under the hood works you have the chance to get a much better job, hence you could be getting prototypes at your doorstep for you to try and break in.
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Dnt tke a job like that selling phones is not a career nd anythn more that u will still need a degree go to college or join the service jus dnt sale phones because u like phones and think you know alot...side note if you coould crack this boot loader issue att may hire u jus on that bases kinda like how apple did that famous jailbreakrr js
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I'll just say, you want to be the guy that goes to the store to BUY the phone full retail (or whatever) not the other guy that has to sell it to that dude.
like Marshall24 said, if you can tamper with the bootloader and understand how everything under the hood works you have the chance to get a much better job, hence you could be getting prototypes at your doorstep for you to try and break in.
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Thanks for the replies. I'm definitely not looking to make it a career, I just think it would be a good job during college. When I moved away for school I had to give up my old job where I made $14/hour at a country club.
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Dnt tke a job like that selling phones is not a career nd anythn more that u will still need a degree go to college or join the service jus dnt sale phones because u like phones and think you know alot...side note if you coould crack this boot loader issue att may hire u jus on that bases kinda like how apple did that famous jailbreakrr js
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Dont listen to this guy. Matter of fact, dont listen to anyone trying to hold you back. It will look good on your resume for experience etc plus you seem like you feel confident. Go for it n good luck.
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Dont listen to this guy. Matter of fact, dont listen to anyone trying to hold you back. It will look good on your resume for experience etc plus you seem like you feel confident. Go for it n good luck.
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I agree I work for at&t cor and have been doing so for 7 years. I work in a mall location and make $60,000 a year. I work 40 hours a week get a free phone 5 weeks of paid vacation who wouldn't want that plus its a union job so you have job security.
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I agree I work for at&t cor and have been doing so for 7 years. I work in a mall location and make $60,000 a year. I work 40 hours a week get a free phone 5 weeks of paid vacation who wouldn't want that plus its a union job so you have job security.
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Really u mke 60g a yr are u a branch manager or something?
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I was a sells rep for verizon and I was making 50,000 plus back in 08, 09. Its good money if you put in the work.
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Really u mke 60g a yr are u a branch manager or something?
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I highly doubt that's the case, I have a friend that's a Manager at a local retail location for T-Mobile living in CA and she barely hits the 40K a year mark. Unless he's a top ranking sales associate nationwide I doubt he makes over 60K a year, maybe 30K.