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So I went to a few stores today that sells att phones. I asked everyone in all 5 of the stores about the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Note LTE, noone even knew about it as if it will be coming out 6 years from now -.- noone knew there was one even coming out let alone the name :/ it kind of makes me sad when the consumer knows more then the sales reps. They should train more in my opinion this was just my little experiance for the day just thought I'd share. Anyone else looking forward to the note lte for att?
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Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps are always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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KayxGee1 said:
In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps at always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics

Bush715 said:
Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics
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That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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KayxGee1 said:
That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.

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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.
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I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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KayxGee1 said:
I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha

Bush715 said:
Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha
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Haha yea I understand. I never ask about a device until it's all over the internet and comfirmed by many sources. That's like calling HTC and asking about the rumored Edge.
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I even tried bestbuy lol and the guys words were "our phone tech isn't here today he will be here tomorrow from 12-6" I live 40 mins away from anything so its not in my best choice to go back but anywho I go to the same att retailer when I buy my phones. They know me there and come at me quick because I don't just come in to buy a cheap pantech crossover I'm there with cash in hand and buy phones straight up xD so they are always willing to help. When I went in to buy my Sony xperia play 4g I handed her my iPhone to Bluetooth my contacts, she looked at my iPhone and her exact words were "what the F is this" it was running wp7 xD Haha but in all seriousness I think someone should be hired in the certain area. It'd be like hiring me to sell cars or ovens when I know nothing about them, I feel like they just hire anyone :/ I went to buy a computer once and the worker argued for 30 minutes that 512mb was a gigabyte :/ I shook my head and took my business elsewhere I just don't understand... sometimes I wish everyone cared about a phone as much as we do... instead of "as long as I can listen to music watch YouTube and look at porn, I don't care what it looks like or what it does" :'( I honestly just want to teach everyone for free so I don't feel so smart and dumb at the same time. anyone else feel that way?
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phzi said:
Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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I agree. I've perused tablets in Best Buy and after engaging the nearest 'team member' for less than 3 minutes, I realize that I know more than they do.
It's the same experience when going to the auto parts store. There are some people who can carry on informed conversation, but 90% are the type who watch fast & furious movies in awe, and know nothing about repair or maintenance or they can only look up part numbers.
Basically, lower your expectations.

This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.

I Am Marino said:
This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.
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I have had similar experience with applying for jobs at auto parts stores. The 'now hiring' sign is displayed for several months and the staff changes about every 3 weeks, but I never get called. For a while there was an older woman who not only knew nothing about cars but she also needed help to use the computer program to look up parts.
I finally realized that these people will work for less money than I will because I actually know what I am doing. It really is sad that people with any level of technical or mechanical ability don't actually work at the retail level because they can't get enough money.
And don't get me started on the people who work at Home Depot . .

I have no past work experiance. I'm 19 years old have been the "bad" kid because I used to be a "black magic" hacker I've gotten introuble from schools best buys and targets because of it but now I'm past all that I do phones tablets anything mobile. There is never a time when I'm in best buy that I'm back in the computer/phone area and usually an older citizen is talking to a sales Rep about which one is better and the sales Rep says well product A is $1299 with 4gb ram touchscreen is way better then product B $899 8gb ram and so on but they go by the price as the sales Rep was walking her to the register I kindly walked up and said "hello ma'am I noticed you were interested in two different so-so" the sales Rep called the manager and had me kicked out for costing him the sale xD but they wont hire me? I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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i have to say i agree not many of the people in the stores even know about the phones they have in front of them much less whats coming out.

toxicpaulution said:
... I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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I don't mean to overstep the rules of polite conversation but you may wish to think about your image. It isn't fair that we judge based on looks, but it happens.
*Edit - When I say looks I also means assumptions that people will make of others based on their prejudices. -*End Edit
Most recently, I applied for a job repairing projectors. During the interview they kept asking me about how well I would transition to an office environment. Completely Ridiculous! I would be working in the workshop not the office and I happened to be better dressed than any of my interviewers.
Basically, some people cannot see past their little world or people they can understand.

Man Verizon store by me they don't know anything. And they are jerks as well. Went to upgrade my moms phone and said she wouldn't get unlimited data with her Droid 3 so I just bought it from newegg called up and boom she got her unlimited data. Never going back to that store again. Hate how now you have to bring phone to store to get replaced.
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toxicpaulution said:
They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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Frig no, we need no more non technical people. Like how not everyone is cut out for engineering or medicine, not everyone is cut out for xda.
$1 gets you a reply

I'm not saying everyone join xda but if you going to sell something atleast know alittle about the past present and the future you can't be like well I'm sorry I don't know about cars from 2011 back I only know about the 2012 Ford focus and that's all sorry can't work on you're car -.-
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AT&T reps get their info from phone arena

So yesterday i was talking to a AT&T rep, and i had asked some questions about the phone and she was reading exactly everything from phone arena. word by word, i even brought up the Atrix just to confirm my theory. yep.
Not true! I get my info from here
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Haha. In positive she was reading everything from phone arena lol
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So yesterday i was talking to a AT&T rep, and i had asked some questions about the phone and she was reading exactly everything from phone arena. word by word, i even brought up the Atrix just to confirm my theory. yep.
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definitely not what ALL the reps do. I do all my research when i find out we are releasing a device. Not that its a bad thing that she got her info from there anyways.
As an Att rep, you shouldnt throw us all under a blanket because of one rep you talked to. Phone arena not an inaccurate source anyway. Just not my first choice.
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As an Att rep, you shouldnt throw us all under a blanket because of one rep you talked to. Phone arena not an inaccurate source anyway. Just not my first choice.
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Well in just saying. Like don't you all have the specs of the phone on your own system? Seems kinda weird that they use different sources.
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when i ask questions about new phones they often say "let me check" and they google it! so yes your theory may be true
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when i ask questions about new phones they often say "let me check" and they google it! so yes your theory may be true
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Yes this what I'm trying to say. Its not a bad thing. Just weird that some of them are not informed about a recently realeased device. Like for example when she asked what phone I had she's asked if it was a new phone.
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Yes this what I'm trying to say. Its not a bad thing. Just weird that some of them are not informed about a recently realeased device. Like for example when she asked what phone I had she's asked if it was a new phone.
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What can I say not all AT&T reps are created equal. ;-)
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What can I say not all AT&T reps are created equal. ;-)
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Ha yeah true that.
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We get our info from whatever basis we can. I don't take offense to this because it's partly true. Any of you other AT&T reps (like myself) know that within our company you have the "haves" and "have-nots"...personally, if you're on XDA you're a "HAVE." You are intelligent enough to read and translate what half the stuff on this site means. Think about your counterparts in your stores/locations. We all have that handful that knows bullmoose about these devices. The "Pantechs" of the company, lol. We know how to browse the web to find what we need as AT&T doesn't necessarily give us the FULL specs on phones-just what they want us to push to our customers. So, just know going in that you have a grab bag of reps with different knowledge bases and strengths on these subjects...be prepared...
Stores don't hire knowledgeable people.
Walk into any Best Buy, GameStop, etc. None of them know what they're talking about.
MikeyMike01 said:
Stores don't hire knowledgeable people.
Walk into any Best Buy, GameStop, etc. None of them know what they're talking about.
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haha yeah, when i got my atrix at best buy,
me: by any chance do you know what are my download speeds?
Sales person: 4G speeds.
me: ... thanks...
I ask reps questions to see what they know....always been let down lol not sure why they work there if they don't have a clue.
i have to say that it is better than the sprint reps i have dealt with. i was checking out the epic for a girlfriend that liked my phone and was on sprint and i didnt like the contacts, launcher, and mms apps compared to other sgs phones. the dumb biatch kept repeating that it was the best phone on the market, and im like i know i have an sgs, it's right here and att had it before you had this. and she kept trying to tell me how the epic was so great, i kept finding reasons tw3 apps were better than tw 2.5 apps and asked about call forwarding so it can use google voice as voice mail, told her it was free on att and i didnt want surcharges for call forwarding. she tried to sell me there transcription service which is also a pay service. i gave up and walked out. it wasnt that she was trying to show knowledge, it was that she had a nasty tone of voice and discredited everything i said with the comment "this is the best phone on the market" and showed me no respect. it was clear she was just regurgitating stuff fed to her because we couldn't have a discussion. my att reps like talking to me because they usually learn something.
Dani897 said:
i have to say that it is better than the sprint reps i have dealt with. i was checking out the epic for a girlfriend that liked my phone and was on sprint and i didnt like the contacts, launcher, and mms apps compared to other sgs phones. the dumb biatch kept repeating that it was the best phone on the market, and im like i know i have an sgs, it's right here and att had it before you had this. and she kept trying to tell me how the epic was so great, i kept finding reasons tw3 apps were better than tw 2.5 apps and asked about call forwarding so it can use google voice as voice mail, told her it was free on att and i didnt want surcharges for call forwarding. she tried to sell me there transcription service which is also a pay service. i gave up and walked out. it wasnt that she was trying to show knowledge, it was that she had a nasty tone of voice and discredited everything i said with the comment "this is the best phone on the market" and showed me no respect. it was clear she was just regurgitating stuff fed to her because we couldn't have a discussion. my att reps like talking to me because they usually learn something.
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I would die for a store full of "you's' bro....65% of my customers are pure retards. It's the blind leading the blind! Hahahahaha!
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idk man, but if i had my own corporation i would have everyone tip top shape regarding new devices and stuff.
"alright listen up @$%#%#[email protected]$$%# get your sh*t straight as we are having a quiz over the Infuse this friday. you dont pass you dont work here."
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bullet358 said:
I would die for a store full of "you's' bro....65% of my customers are pure retards. It's the blind leading the blind! Hahahahaha!
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Hi I would like to buy an iphone 4g.
okay sure, anything specific that draws you to an iphone?
yes. it has 4g and apps.
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LMFAO!
yeah i do see people go into the att store and ask for an iphone. not "hey im interested in a smartphone and would like to know what's out there" just "i want to get an iphone, how much is it" i just smile and think their loss.
atleast i can get insureance on my infuse and the price scales over time. the iphone is still $300 for a 32gig version. a captivate or inspire is down to $50-$100 and the infuse as a new release is $200 but is sure to go down with the release of the attain.

Wow simply amazing!

People actually get away with this ...
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mob/2506497550.html
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People actually get away with this ...
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mob/2506497550.html
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I live in phoenix, lets find out where they live and go egg their house
To some, that is a hell of a deal. That's like someone paying me to run antivirus software on their PC.
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People always rant about these things. It's really just a service for the technically inept; I don't see anything wrong with it myself. If you would rather spend $25 than invest the little time necessary to learn how to do these things yourself, then you have that right.
I pay to have my laundry done even though I own and know how to operate my washer and dryer. Should we egg my laundry ladys house? Eh...Caveat Emptor!
Touché
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bdkinney said:
People always rant about these things. It's really just a service for the technically inept; I don't see anything wrong with it myself. If you would rather spend $25 than invest the little time necessary to learn how to do these things yourself, then you have that right.
I pay to have my laundry done even though I own and know how to operate my washer and dryer. Should we egg my laundry ladys house? Eh...Caveat Emptor!
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First of all i was joking. And to continue the joke yes we should egg your laundry ladies house. How dare she do you laundry. Burn the scoundrel
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First of all i was joking. And to continue the joke yes we should egg your laundry ladies house. How dare she do you laundry. Burn the scoundrel
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Got that you were joking...and further more....BACON!
I've seen similar local ads too. One the other day advertised rooting for $40. My only problem would be what assurances do these folks offer in terms of insurance in case they eff up someone's phone. Would suck to get a brick and a "sorry" back from the guy.
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TJBunch1228 said:
I've seen similar local ads too. One the other day advertised rooting for $40. My only problem would be what assurances do these folks offer in terms of insurance in case they eff up someone's phone. Would suck to get a brick and a "sorry" back from the guy.
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Yep I'd never use a service like this...kinda like taking your new Corvette to get serviced behind Bubba Joe Billy Bob's Trailer. Bubba might know what he's doing...or you might be calling a tow truck.
But then again, I routinely make large purchases from people I know nothing about (Ebay). So...eh... Yous rolls the dice yous takes you chances....
It's actually not a bad idea, of course you would have to know exactly what to do in case things hit the fan!
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you haven't seen anything.
People charge a lot more to flash Android on HD2, or even selling HD2 as Android phone on eBay.
I was just complaining about this crap yesterday lol. Ive done 2 mt4gs and three hd2s for guys at my work. All for free. Its a passion not my job. I enjoy it.
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depends
bdkinney said:
People always rant about these things. It's really just a service for the technically inept; I don't see anything wrong with it myself. If you would rather spend $25 than invest the little time necessary to learn how to do these things yourself, then you have that right.
I pay to have my laundry done even though I own and know how to operate my washer and dryer. Should we egg my laundry ladys house? Eh...Caveat Emptor!
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if its a LG washer and dryer than its ok to have someone else do it since a reboot during laundry can cause stains.
Things like this amaze us because we understand technology and this is an utter nonissue, but for a lot of people it just isn't.
It's like cars, to a mechanic paying for an oil change or tire rotation is absolutely absurd, but plenty of people do so, because they just don't understand cars. What is an easy job for me might be incredibly hard for you.
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my argument is something that is going to be brought to users here VERY shortly this guy is making a quick buck on... call me crazy but this person must not have a conscience...
I'd offer to root their phones for $10. They might end up bricked... Then what
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I'd offer to root their phones for $10. They might end up bricked... Then what
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Throw it back at them and ruuuunnn, cause they sure are gonna be pissed!! And hope they don't catch you! Lol!
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I've done this with jailbreaking iphones along with unlocking them to use them on tmobile. You would be suprised how many people want this done. I had about 10 calls a week. Only ended up doing about 2 a week for a bout a month due to the distance factor and people bailing. But still, i jailbroke and unlocked about 5 iphones and made a quick 100 bucks for doing something that i enjoy doing. I love messing with gadgets. Keeps me occupied for a while.
tl;dr: people pay for this all the time.
I would join in as well! There is a kiosk at tempe market place where the guy does cell phone repairs and upgrades/updates... it might be his advertisement haha... i actually had him fix my old tmobile dash (htc excalibur) back when the power button broke and he resoldered the pins to make the power button work again...

Finally HTC get the message

I think HTC are beginning to get worried about the negative press over the One series.
Had a call from HTC customer service today in response to a survey I filled in recently.
Basically I slated them and their response to my support call.
I asked them a specific question about their new Bluetooth audio dongle and they gave me some crap generic response about how not all phones have the same Bluetooth functionality (my request had nothing to do with phones merely the specification of the dongle).
Anyway I didn't pick up because the number was 'unknown' but they left a very detailed message and seemed very keen to get a resolution (apparently ;-)).
What do you reckon? Call back and hurl abuse???
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I reckon this thread serves no purpose.
Your wondering whether to call back and give 'more abuse' , when they have phoned you directly to try to solve your issue.
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chrisnash said:
I think HTC are beginning to get worried about the negative press over the One series.
Had a call from HTC customer service today in response to a survey I filled in recently.
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What do you guys do for a living? No company intentionally does things that aren't in the best interest of their customers. Big multi-billion dollar (pound, euro) companies can't turn on a dime. At least in the U.S., my experience with HTC so far has been light years better than Samsung. The fact that HTC sent you a survey (which they pay for) means they do care about what their customers think. And I guarantee you whatever their response is it in no way has anything to do with the *****ing taking place on XDA.
What do you reckon? Call back and hurl abuse???
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Are you 12? First you complain that your issues weren’t properly addressed. Then, it appears HTC's trying to further assist you. And the first thing that came to your mind is "hurl abuse?"
You guys really need to get lives as making a piece of electronic kit the focal point of your existence is just plain scary.
BarryH_GEG said:
What do you guys do for a living? No company intentionally does things that aren't in the best interest of their customers. Big multi-billion dollar (pound, euro) companies can't turn on a dime. At least in the U.S., my experience with HTC so far has been light years better than Samsung. The fact that HTC sent you a survey (which they pay for) means they do care about what their customers think. And I guarantee you whatever their response is it in no way has anything to do with the *****ing taking place on XDA.
Are you 12? First you complain that your issues weren’t properly addressed. Then, it appears HTC's trying to further assist you. And the first thing that came to your mind is "hurl abuse?"
You guys really need to get lives as making a piece of electronic kit the focal point of your existence is just plain scary.
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Get em Barry!!!!!!!! I agree
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I've had HTC call me after a survey in the past as well when I had issues with my old Sensation. Found them more than helpful
Who cares? I don't.
Can I help you? Nope.
Can you help me? Nope.
Do I learn something from this thread? Nope.
Do you learn something? Hopefully yes. :cyclops:
chrisnash said:
I think HTC are beginning to get worried about the negative press over the One series.
Had a call from HTC customer service today in response to a survey I filled in recently.
Basically I slated them and their response to my support call.
I asked them a specific question about their new Bluetooth audio dongle and they gave me some crap generic response about how not all phones have the same Bluetooth functionality (my request had nothing to do with phones merely the specification of the dongle).
Anyway I didn't pick up because the number was 'unknown' but they left a very detailed message and seemed very keen to get a resolution (apparently ;-)).
What do you reckon? Call back and hurl abuse???
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i smell trolls
threadstarter si trying to get the attention of HTC for what? the fact that they made the effort to call you back with regards to your survey means that they have good customer service. and you wanted to "hurl abuse?" imo HTC doesnt need customers like you.
If you got time, I'd call back and actually tell them what you didn't like and how they should've handled it.
The fact is that companies like HTC pay these survey companies to study these things, collect customer feedback so that later on HTC can process it and work on improving their image/products.
How efficient that is - that's another debate. But I really think you need to use this opportunity to make your voice heard.
At the very least, you'll feel vented =)
Pointless thread you lot. No need to post anymore let it die down. Next:banghead:
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BarryH_GEG said:
No company intentionally does things that aren't in the best interest of their customers.
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I stopped reading right here.
DarkDvr said:
If you got time, I'd call back and actually tell them what you didn't like and how they should've handled it.
The fact is that companies like HTC pay these survey companies to study these things, collect customer feedback so that later on HTC can process it and work on improving their image/products.
How efficient that is - that's another debate. But I really think you need to use this opportunity to make your voice heard.
At the very least, you'll feel vented =)
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Your post is the only one that i could read, the others are garbage.
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barondebxl said:
Your post is the only one that i could read, the others are garbage.
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says the person who just wrote absolute garbage himself with the reply you are giving
Goku80 said:
says the person who just wrote absolute garbage himself with the reply you are giving
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Sure.
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Simple solution for Verizon locked bootloader

I have read countless threads on this subject that range from just bend over and take it its not that bad to I'm selling my phone as soon as I get. There is a simple way of showing our dislike of the locked bootloader. It only takes a minute and it will get Verizons attention. it's not a smack on the head with a bag of nails but it will sting the big red bully enough to eventually act.
Go to the verizon mobile web site "my verizon" click upgrade device pick any phone click quick look click read reviews click write a reveiw and the phone you currently have wille come up and ask you to write a reveiw. Give it the lowest amount of stars Most importantly be polite, factual and don't bash Verizon (save that for the XDA forums)
This is the most efficient way a few can get their point driven home in an acceptable and respectable manner. When all the phones on its web site have only 2 or 3 stars they will definately be effected. This is the most effective civil way of letting Verizon know they are doing their customers wrong.
What do you guys think?
Press thanks if you think this will help...and because it boosts my XDA cred :laugh:
Yes at this point Verizon needs a wake up call and realize out not for its they would not have food on the table. Every one of these ways people come up with help.
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you're not going to matter to Verizon. Not trying to be a **** but the amount of customers that want an unlocked bootloader is minimal compaired to their total customer base. Yes it sucks balls and i feel for you verizon guys, but there isn't much you are going to be able to do about it.
Best option would be to call their customer service and tell them you want to cancel your account and when they ask why just say you guys refuse to unlock bootloaders so i am taking my business elsewhere. With the phone being new to the market and in high demand i would just sell it on ebay or craigslist for 500 and switch to a different carrier.
When is the developer edition of the VZW SGS3 going to be available? I think a lot of people are trying to sell their VZ S3's on eBay for $549 or $600 to buy it outright from Samsung. As long as you don't take advantage of VZ's subsidized pricing on a new device you can keep your unlimited data plan when you activate it. I'm considering that option.
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mburke178 said:
you're not going to matter to Verizon. Not trying to be a **** but the amount of customers that want an unlocked bootloader is minimal compaired to their total customer base. Yes it sucks balls and i feel for you verizon guys, but there isn't much you are going to be able to do about it.
Best option would be to call their customer service and tell them you want to cancel your account and when they ask why just say you guys refuse to unlock bootloaders so i am taking my business elsewhere. With the phone being new to the market and in high demand i would just sell it on ebay or craigslist for 500 and switch to a different carrier.
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If all the phones on their site suddenly had only two or three stars trust me it will affect verizon. Phones with low amounts of ratings could be affected by just one or two bad reviews. It is the biggest impact we can make with very little time invested. Calling in returning phones and all the other ideas are also excellent just not the best bang for the buck. I plan on doing all of the above.
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If all the phones on their site suddenly had only two or three stars trust me it will affect verizon. Phones with low amounts of ratings could be affected by just one or two bad reviews. It is the biggest impact we can make with very little time invested. Calling in returning phones and all the other ideas are also excellent just not the best bang for the buck. I plan on doing all of the above.
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Anyone who is going to be researching a phone isn't going to go solely off the service providers website or at least they should be smarter than that. Also if they wanted they could easily just delete all the 1 star reviews.
You guys are no fun, either that or you are shills for Verizon LOL its always better to do nothing when done wrong or when faced with adversity
P.S. feel free to hit the donate button, gotta recoup for the hit im going to take selling my my S3 (they sould have named it the FU2). The hit I'm going to take cancelling my contract early, and a couple tubes of anal ease
(VERIZON left me a little raw) :crying::silly:
I think this is a great idea. Will it work? Maybe, maybe not, but it doesn't hurt to try. I think it's definitely worth a try.
Might as well give it a shot
I think this is a great idea! I think that not that many people give ratings anyway so even if a small number of us do it, it should have an impact. And I do think people might not read the review but they do look at the rating
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I will leave negative reviews I am not sure it will help but I I am in to make the effort. I have been getting back at them (verizon) in my own ways like running my office and most my neighborhood of some extra lines my business account has with unlimited data in 4G areas
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Well since there arent many reviews leaving a bunch of negative ones would have a pretty big impact
I think this idea is "awesome"! No it's not the one thing that's going to sway VZW's politics but hopefully one of many to curb their abuse of the consumer....
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This is a great idea
its diffidently a better idea then sitting on your azz
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Possible lawsuit against Verizon
I ride bike with two gentlemen who are members of a large law firm. Very nice guys considering they're lawyers :laugh: Had to put that in there for when they read this...hi guys!
They informed me that if Verizon does not post the negative reviews there are grounds for legal action (it took then about six paragraphs twenty minutes and a whole bunch of what I think was Latin to explain that to me but I got the jist of most of it) There are a few guidelines keep the reviews factual polite and dont bash Verizon. They offered thier services calling it "a very high profile endeavor"
They also reminded me Al Capone didn't go to jail for being a gangster he went to jail for tax evasion
Keep fighting the good fight
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I ride bike with two gentlemen who are members of a large law firm. Very nice guys considering they're lawyers :laugh: Had to put that in there for when they read this...hi guys!
They informed me that if Verizon does not post the negative reviews there are grounds for legal action (it took then about six paragraphs twenty minutes and a whole bunch of what I think was Latin to explain that to me but I got the jist of most of it) There are a few guidelines keep the reviews factual polite and dont bash Verizon. They offered thier services calling it "a very high profile endeavor"
They also reminded me Al Capone didn't go to jail for being a gangster he went to jail for tax evasion
Keep fighting the good fight
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Ah yes lawyers and hackers coming together in the search for loopholes and alternative thinking.
Sent from my Verizon S3 with locked bootloader but I would love to change my signature.
im pretty sure verizon is deleting any reviews talking about the bootloader
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im pretty sure verizon is deleting any reviews talking about the bootloader
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Nails in their coffin boys!
Pour it on the more they delete the stronger our case becomes, fortunately for us their disclaimer " {} I agree with terms of service " has more loopholes than their software :good:
P.S. keep an eye open for a different disclaimer
While your still pi$$ed off about Verizon being such a bully check out these other threads....I have nothing to do with them just linked them because they are ways of venting our Big V rage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774849&page=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1759669
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764726
Now that you are full of pi$$ and vinegar start typing make a difference :good:
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Good idea, doing it now!
To post a review on Verizon, or not, that is the question.
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Anyone work at AT&T?

I'm not sure if this type of thread is allowed, but I didn't see a more appropriate section to post it. I'm an 18 year old student who like many of you knows a good deal about cell phones and electronics. Because of this, I thought getting a job at AT&T, or any other cell phone retailer wouldn't be a bad idea. I hear you get commission, and I'm confident I could do well. I'm just wondering if anyone could share some information about requirements and likelihood of getting hired.
Dnt tke a job like that selling phones is not a career nd anythn more that u will still need a degree go to college or join the service jus dnt sale phones because u like phones and think you know alot...side note if you coould crack this boot loader issue att may hire u jus on that bases kinda like how apple did that famous jailbreakrr js
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I'm not sure if this type of thread is allowed, but I didn't see a more appropriate section to post it. I'm an 18 year old student who like many of you knows a good deal about cell phones and electronics. Because of this, I thought getting a job at AT&T, or any other cell phone retailer wouldn't be a bad idea. I hear you get commission, and I'm confident I could do well. I'm just wondering if anyone could share some information about requirements and likelihood of getting hired.
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I'll just say, you want to be the guy that goes to the store to BUY the phone full retail (or whatever) not the other guy that has to sell it to that dude.
like Marshall24 said, if you can tamper with the bootloader and understand how everything under the hood works you have the chance to get a much better job, hence you could be getting prototypes at your doorstep for you to try and break in.
deron37129 said:
Dnt tke a job like that selling phones is not a career nd anythn more that u will still need a degree go to college or join the service jus dnt sale phones because u like phones and think you know alot...side note if you coould crack this boot loader issue att may hire u jus on that bases kinda like how apple did that famous jailbreakrr js
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I'll just say, you want to be the guy that goes to the store to BUY the phone full retail (or whatever) not the other guy that has to sell it to that dude.
like Marshall24 said, if you can tamper with the bootloader and understand how everything under the hood works you have the chance to get a much better job, hence you could be getting prototypes at your doorstep for you to try and break in.
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Thanks for the replies. I'm definitely not looking to make it a career, I just think it would be a good job during college. When I moved away for school I had to give up my old job where I made $14/hour at a country club.
deron37129 said:
Dnt tke a job like that selling phones is not a career nd anythn more that u will still need a degree go to college or join the service jus dnt sale phones because u like phones and think you know alot...side note if you coould crack this boot loader issue att may hire u jus on that bases kinda like how apple did that famous jailbreakrr js
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Dont listen to this guy. Matter of fact, dont listen to anyone trying to hold you back. It will look good on your resume for experience etc plus you seem like you feel confident. Go for it n good luck.
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Dont listen to this guy. Matter of fact, dont listen to anyone trying to hold you back. It will look good on your resume for experience etc plus you seem like you feel confident. Go for it n good luck.
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I agree I work for at&t cor and have been doing so for 7 years. I work in a mall location and make $60,000 a year. I work 40 hours a week get a free phone 5 weeks of paid vacation who wouldn't want that plus its a union job so you have job security.
mathiss02 said:
I agree I work for at&t cor and have been doing so for 7 years. I work in a mall location and make $60,000 a year. I work 40 hours a week get a free phone 5 weeks of paid vacation who wouldn't want that plus its a union job so you have job security.
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Really u mke 60g a yr are u a branch manager or something?
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I was a sells rep for verizon and I was making 50,000 plus back in 08, 09. Its good money if you put in the work.
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Really u mke 60g a yr are u a branch manager or something?
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I highly doubt that's the case, I have a friend that's a Manager at a local retail location for T-Mobile living in CA and she barely hits the 40K a year mark. Unless he's a top ranking sales associate nationwide I doubt he makes over 60K a year, maybe 30K.

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