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well i wonder if the reason it works on the moto tab and the galaxy tab is because they paid netflix? what other reason would they have if i simple file edit fixes it...
This should be in General Discussion. To answer your question: In the case of the Transformer, Netflix themselves nor their app is responsible for it not running on the Transformer. Your theory keeps getting kicked around the forums...the idea that money is changing hands. There is no extortion here. ASUS did/does not need to pay Netflix anything. They just need to compile and include a newer version of libnvomx for the Transformer.
That's interesting, but that's not what ASUS claims. After asking them why there still isn't Netflix support after the 3.2 update, I got this response:
The current version of Netflix available on the Android Market is only supported for Android 2.2 based phones, and not any Honeycomb tablets. While installing the Netflix 1.3 APK has enabled Netflix for other Honeycomb tablets, officially, they are still not supported. At this time, users will have to wait on an updated release from Netflix.
-Rick, ASUS
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That's interesting, but that's not what ASUS claims. After asking them why there still isn't Netflix support after the 3.2 update, I got this response:
The current version of Netflix available on the Android Market is only supported for Android 2.2 based phones, and not any Honeycomb tablets. While installing the Netflix 1.3 APK has enabled Netflix for other Honeycomb tablets, officially, they are still not supported. At this time, users will have to wait on an updated release from Netflix.
-Rick, ASUS
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The lenovo thinkpad is a honeycomb tablet and its a supported device. Not everything a customer support guy says is true.
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Which is why I'm kind of volleying more questions at him. Hopefully he keeps responding.
Movies is in my Android Market though.
Maybe Netflix hasn't updated the market yet.
Just root your tablet and take it into your own hands.
netflix and market has nothing to do with it.
sry im on 3.2 and dont feel like downgrading...
You can root 3.2
I did it earlier today and it took like 10 mins. Couldn't have been easier.
Just use the batch script that works for 3.2
Sorry can't post the link from my phone.
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The lenovo thinkpad also isn't out.. and this has nothing to do with money.
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The lenovo thinkpad also isn't out.. and this has nothing to do with money.
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So what if it's not out? It's a supported device.
Guys,
The ASUS support rep is wrong. Netflix 1.3 DOES work on Honeycomb tablets, the XOOM being one of them. There is no conspiracy here, no matter how hard you look. When attempting to stream from Netflix on the Transformer using Honeycomb 3.2, you get that error message. A peek in logcat shows the Netflix app yells about not finding function DRM.play inside OMX. This is a function of a NEWER version of libnvomx than ships on the Transformer or in it's updates.
XOOM has newer libnvomx w/ drm.play function = working netflix
Transformer (and other tablets) with libnvomx WITHOUT drm.play = broke netflix
Since the hardware inside the XOOM and the Transformer are VERY similar, I was able to pull the newer libnvomx.so from the XOOM and overwrite the one on my Transformer to make Netflix function. That's ALL the Netflix app cares about. It doesn't care what device you are on, or if Netflix has been "paid" by that manufacturer. That said, because the Transformer IS a different device than the XOOM, things break when doing this. I do believe the only problem on the Transformer that I've seen reported is that the libnvomx replacement breaks WMV playback. Not a big issue for most, tbh. The same fix works on the Acer Iconia, but replacing the file breaks their camera.
You need to petition the manufacturer of your particular device to compile an updated version of OMX w/ the drm.play function and include it in an official OTA.
Otherwise root and replace the file yourself with one from a different device and deal with whatever breaks.
^This is how my Netflix patch works. It's a flashable zip with nothing but libnvomx.so from a XOOM 3.2 ROM. I think we are lucky on the Transformer that nothing breaks except for WMV playback.
well the question is did netflix provide moto with that drm files cause more than likely its talor made for them and it may be the only thing that uses it
It IS about money.
Each manufacturer has to pay software/hardware engineers to design their devices and make sure the device works with Android.
--Some manufacturers are likely paying for more/better engineers.
In our case, it's a matter of Asus paying someone to get Netflix working. As noted above, anytime you make changes on software you might break something else. So the engineer(s) have to do all kinds of "magic" to make sure that something works like it's supposed to without disrupting something else...
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well the question is did netflix provide moto with that drm files cause more than likely its talor made for them and it may be the only thing that uses it
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No, that's not a realistic question at all. As I clearly stated, the drm functions are a part of OMX. Moto simply is using more up to date libraries in their ROM than ASUS.
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It IS about money.
Each manufacturer has to pay software/hardware engineers to design their devices and make sure the device works with Android.
--Some manufacturers are likely paying for more/better engineers.
In our case, it's a matter of Asus paying someone to get Netflix working. As noted above, anytime you make changes on software you might break something else. So the engineer(s) have to do all kinds of "magic" to make sure that something works like it's supposed to without disrupting something else...
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Agreed. It is NOT, however, about device manufacturers having to pay some sort of imaginary extortion fee to Netflix so that their app will run on a particular device.
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Which is why I'm kind of volleying more questions at him. Hopefully he keeps responding.
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I'll bet he can't wait to come to work and answer more of your questions....
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I'll bet he can't wait to come to work and answer more of your questions....
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who cares if he is excited to answer his questions or not, it's his job.
When asking about dock RMA I asked about why Netflix was promoted on Transformer website, by Asus etc...
I got this response.
Thank you for contacting ASUS. I do apologize for any possible inconvenience or confusion you have experienced thus far. Please advise that while a native Netflix application may not yet be available, any development or availability of Netflix service on Android tablets is controlled strictly by Netflix and/or Google, as hardware manufacturers have no bearing or control over when software applications are available for the Android OS. With that said, I believe that a Netflix application for Android is well into development and should be available relatively soon.
Again I do apologize for any inconvenience. Thank you again for your consideration.
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All true, but still didn't answer my question.
Only hope is Google/Netflix get things worked out sooner rather than later.
That reply from the ASUS rep makes it sound like they didn't even know that a Netflix app for Android was available. Clueless.
I've had and sold a Xoom within the last couple of weeks, OS is lovely and the tablet itself is reall nice but having got into the Kindle and Zinio Apps I found the Xoom just too darned heavy to hold as a "book".
Anyway I know the EEE Pad is lighter having played with them in store and the screen is lovely, I guess my only worry is the 16GB Memory built in v 32GB on the Xoom.
If I buy the Keyboard Dock which I likely will does that mean I can have say 32GB memory in the Micro SD Card slow on the EEE Pad and another card in the slot on the keyboard?
Also whats the story with USB Flash Drives / Portable hard drives, will these work via the USB slot on the Keyboard?
Yes to everything.
Also there's a 32 gb version on the eee pad as well
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Yes to everything.
Also there's a 32 gb version on the eee pad as well
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Cheers mate, I saw the 32gb version, but can't seem to find it bundled with the keyboard in the UK
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Been reading around the forums and read some posts on the B70 models, does the bootloader lock mean I can't root?
What would it prevent me from doing? Because I guess if I walk into a shop and buy one its going to be a B70
B70's are more like a gamble. some are using the old bootloader hence rootable. getting the B80's means its definately using the new bootloader so if you want to be able to use apps that require root its best to stay away
also being able to root means you can block ads. ush SSH tunnel install custom rom etc
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B70's are more like a gamble. some are using the old bootloader hence rootable. getting the B80's means its definately using the new bootloader so if you want to be able to use apps that require root its best to stay away
also being able to root means you can block ads. ush SSH tunnel install custom rom etc
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I've had a Desire and Xoom before and used Titanium Backup specially when rooted.. is there anyway to know if a B70 is rootable from the serial number? Or would I need to buy and then try it?
There is a thread somewhere that posts where the sbk was changed by serial number. Sorry its buried in a dozen other threads about the same subject but I read it recently. If you find that post you could then look at the serial number and know if it had the new or old sbk before you bought it
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I've had a Desire and Xoom before and used Titanium Backup specially when rooted.. is there anyway to know if a B70 is rootable from the serial number? Or would I need to buy and then try it?
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My understanding is that B7O's with serial a serial number of B7OKAS17XXX and lower are rootable. serial numbers of B7OKAS18XXX and higher are not.
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My understanding is that B7O's with serial a serial number of B7OKAS17XXX and lower are rootable. serial numbers of B7OKAS18XXX and higher are not.
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I just got done searching that info out. Thanks for beating me to it
Thanks guys, seems the units in the shop here are either with dock and unrootable or tablet only but rootable, would probably just buy one without the dock if it wasn't so expensive to add it later... Hmm
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Guys, these questions have allready been asked and answered around the forum, please have a look and/or use the search
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I'm sure its a little pre-mature since it just came out here in the U.S. yesterday but, has anyone heard anything about the tf700 getting the bootloader unlocking tool? My tf700 is on its way here now, and all thought I'm sure its great stock, I have to have my custom rom's.
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No definites, but I read on here yesterday that the Prime got it within a month, so I would wager that by early August things will get up and running.
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No definites, but I read on here yesterday that the Prime got it within a month, so I would wager that by early August things will get up and running.
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I only said this about TF300, not the Prime, but I have hopes set high too
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I only said this about TF300, not the Prime, but I have hopes set high too
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Ah yes, that was it. Oh well, even a more recent example.
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Ah yes, that was it. Oh well, even a more recent example.
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I remember the Prime got it in about a month. The forums were flipping out though, they couldn't handle not having it yet, so Asus put it out there.
I came here to ask if the bootloader is locked. This makes me sad. I'm not willing to lose my hardware warranty to flash roms. This, plus the lack of micro-usb and the use of nvidia will force me to buy something else.
It's a shame, the tablet is amazing in every other way.
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I came here to ask if the bootloader is locked. This makes me sad. I'm not willing to lose my hardware warranty to flash roms. This, plus the lack of micro-usb and the use of nvidia will force me to buy something else.
It's a shame, the tablet is amazing in every other way.
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What are you talking about. Every single Android device starts with a locked bootloader when it's released. ASUS has been pretty quick with unlocking tools so far.
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What are you talking about. Every single Android device starts with a locked bootloader when it's released. ASUS has been pretty quick with unlocking tools so far.
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His issue is more that the warranty is voided than it shipping locked. To which I agree with him, but its not a dealbreaker since literally the only devices that DONT do that are the Nexus devices.
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I came here to ask if the bootloader is locked. This makes me sad. I'm not willing to lose my hardware warranty to flash roms. This, plus the lack of micro-usb and the use of nvidia will force me to buy something else.
It's a shame, the tablet is amazing in every other way.
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If your willing to spend a extra $60, buy a squaretrade warranty for two years. Everything is covered, even if you drop it in a pool. On something this expensive, $60 for two years of awesome insurance is pretty cheap. They don't mind a unlocked bootloader either.
ASUS's statement is that you MAY lose your warranty after doing this, not that you WILL. In this respect they don't diverge much from HTC or - I believe - Samsung (not that I'm ASUS's fanboy, just saying). Search xda forums, there was a bunch of people who got their Primes fixed on warranty's conditions after unlocking, rooting and going into a bootloop.
I have never seen a confirmed case of a mfr denying hardware warranty for rooting, unlocking or flashing roms. I've returned/rma'd several defective devices with one or more of those attributes. Now if you brick it flashing then all bets are off.
Also, so you don't like nvidia, cant live with propritary usb connector(micro usb can't charge this baby anyway), and cant deal with unlocking bootloader. Just exactly what tablet are you going to buy that doesnt have any of those issues and isn't 49.99 from china?
Microusb charges tablets just fine. My touch pad, for example, has it.
I'll wait?
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ASUS's statement is that you MAY lose your warranty after doing this, not that you WILL. In this respect they don't diverge much from HTC or - I believe - Samsung (not that I'm ASUS's fanboy, just saying). Search xda forums, there was a bunch of people who got their Primes fixed on warranty's conditions after unlocking, rooting and going into a bootloop.
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Good to know, but I'm still a bit wary...
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I came here to ask if the bootloader is locked. This makes me sad. I'm not willing to lose my hardware warranty to flash roms. This, plus the lack of micro-usb and the use of nvidia will force me to buy something else.
It's a shame, the tablet is amazing in every other way.
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Like everyone is saying, You can still get warranty service for hardware issues even if your unlocked. The only downside to unlocking is ASUS won't give your tablet OTA updates, but you can still download and flash the firmware from the asus support website. And chances are if you're unlocked, you're not using the stock firmware.
I think asus has to use their own proprietary plug that to make it work with the dock. You are still given a cable which plugs into your transformer on one end and into a usb port on the other end, so so lack of microusb is really a non-issue.
Don't understand what's wrong with Nvidia, most of the issues so far seem to be software related. Tegra also comes with some nice bells and whistles.
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Microusb charges tablets just fine. My touch pad, for example, has it.
I'll wait?
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I assume the power throughput needed to charge the two relatively large batteries at once pretty much excludes microUSB charging cables (which use standardized maximum power on the pins). For smaller battery capacity, less-capable tablets, such as, with all respect, your TouchPad, it's indeed fine. What are you waiting for, if I may ask? Till, somewhere, somehow, ASUS decides to heed your lonely call for microUSB and ditches it on newer iterations (or units) of the Infinity? Just kidding, obviously, but the question still stand, especially when you couple it to the (pretty much sure-fire near-)future availability of the unlocked bootloader.
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Like everyone is saying, You can still get warranty service for hardware issues even if your unlocked. The only downside to unlocking is ASUS won't give your tablet OTA updates, but you can still download and flash the firmware from the asus support website. And chances are if you're unlocked, you're not using the stock firmware.
I think asus has to use their own proprietary plug that to make it work with the dock. You are still given a cable which plugs into your transformer on one end and into a usb port on the other end, so so lack of microusb is really a non-issue.
Don't understand what's wrong with Nvidia, most of the issues so far seem to be software related. Tegra also comes with some nice bells and whistles.
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Sorry but that is incorrect. The Asus warning and agreement is very clear on this. If you unlock your bootloader they basically have nothing for you what so ever. Hardware included.
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Sorry but that is incorrect. The Asus warning and agreement is very clear on this. If you unlock your bootloader they basically have nothing for you what so ever. Hardware included.
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I know the warning says otherwise, but people have still managed to get their ulocked transformers fixed. Either asus has somehow decided to still do hardware repairs, or the warranty centers put off checking the devices. I personally wouldn't count on it. Make sure your transformer is issue free before unlocking, and don't send it in just because you bricked it.(which shouldn't be possible unless you tried to overwrite the bootloader and lost fastboot)
I'm just saying the odds are if your unlocked, you're still going to get warranty service.
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Since no bootloader unlocking tool is available, does that mean I can't even flash a stock rom?
Got mine from China and itching to get US or UK or whatever rom on it, but I can't seem to find anything in the forum
I believe you already got a response to that in another thread.
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I believe you already got a response to that in another thread.
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Thanks for your reply, and for the write-up you did in the other thread.
I had already read it when I posted here but it isn't clear to me - probably my bad, I'm used to flashing my Samsung Galaxy S (1&3) but I've never done it on a tablet and it seems different. I haven't found any clear instructions on doing so for the TPI.
I get that you used SuperCharger V6, it didn't work and froze up your tablet, then you got it to work as you described.
So, I don't know if I still need to use SuperCharger (which from what I gather is not a modified rom??) or just copy the files you mentioned to the SDcard, and once the files are copied how to get to recovery mode and if root is even required :s
I'm very sorry if these things seem obvious to you all, but the TPI forum is still a bit empty and I couldn't find this info here. Don't even know if what works for the Prime will work for Infinity so I'm not sure I should go digging there as well.
What changes have you noticed *if* you got your GNote early enough to received that now pulled OTA update? I've gotten my 2nd GTab from Amazon yesterday. My observations so far:
1) Pen seems to be less responsive on the new unit vs the old one. Flick sort of motion registers half the time but *a lot* more accurate on the 1st unit. Not sure if that's a software issue or if I've traded one issue for another.
2) Lag I reported earlier is there but less noticeable. Not sure if I can contribute that to better build quality. Assuming it's not a hardware issue with all GNote, it's most likely a software problem in general, which can be addressed in the future updates.
3) Serial # of the new unit is slightly behind the 1st o
4) No new software is loaded on it and it's still on 4.0.4.
Please share your update experience. Thanks.
PS unrelated: new unit seems to be a bit sturdier and back doesn't flex as much.
Smart alarm was added in the settings.
What does your back to do with the OTA update?
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Smart alarm was added in the settings.
What does your back to do with the OTA update?
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Nothing at all. Was just making an observation.
I'm from Malaysia and just gotten my GNote 10.1 yesterday and out of the box I receive not 1 but 2 OTA, each 15mb and 11mb respectively.
Still can't find any changes compared to the early adopters here
Now that's the real question...... Anyone?
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Not yet.
I am in Singapore, so I should have the WW version (don't have the tab with me right now, will check when I get back home). I received the .30 update around 2 days ago.
you dont have the WW version because the update is not out for it, you either have the TW, JP, CN or US.
Source: http://support.asus.com/download.as...finity TF700T&os=32&hashedid=fq2B3oq64av1O95u
i have a US version tablet but live in Australia and got the update on sunday...
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you dont have the WW version because the update is not out for it, you either have the TW, JP, CN or US.
Source: http://support.asus.com/download.as...finity TF700T&os=32&hashedid=fq2B3oq64av1O95u
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Oh well, I always assume that everything sold in Singapore is international SKU. That's why I said I need to check my tab again, since I am not very sure myself.
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i have a US version tablet but live in Australia and got the update on sunday...
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the update is not region specific, its sku specific
After checking, I realize that my tf700 is indeed TW version. No wonder I received the .30 update so early. Why they sell TW SKUs in Singapore is just beyond me.
This not available yet. Why all other regions got this already 2 days ago beats me. Wouldn't assume there are that big differences with the models.
But the waiting game continues and this not even the JB update which TF300 got over a month ago now..so..
I think there is something pretty badly messed up with this device and it is giving Asus some grey hair how to do some updates.
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This not available yet. Why all other regions got this already 2 days ago beats me. Wouldn't assume there are that big differences with the models.
But the waiting game continues and this not even the JB update which TF300 got over a month ago now..so..
I think there is something pretty badly messed up with this device and it is giving Asus some grey hair how to do some updates.
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Here in France the US, TW, JP and CN has arrived yesterday (monday) even if it was not useful here as we are using version WW. But during last night, they removed the files and only version .26 is available right now. I believe that their delivery process is yet to improve