well i wonder if the reason it works on the moto tab and the galaxy tab is because they paid netflix? what other reason would they have if i simple file edit fixes it...
This should be in General Discussion. To answer your question: In the case of the Transformer, Netflix themselves nor their app is responsible for it not running on the Transformer. Your theory keeps getting kicked around the forums...the idea that money is changing hands. There is no extortion here. ASUS did/does not need to pay Netflix anything. They just need to compile and include a newer version of libnvomx for the Transformer.
That's interesting, but that's not what ASUS claims. After asking them why there still isn't Netflix support after the 3.2 update, I got this response:
The current version of Netflix available on the Android Market is only supported for Android 2.2 based phones, and not any Honeycomb tablets. While installing the Netflix 1.3 APK has enabled Netflix for other Honeycomb tablets, officially, they are still not supported. At this time, users will have to wait on an updated release from Netflix.
-Rick, ASUS
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That's interesting, but that's not what ASUS claims. After asking them why there still isn't Netflix support after the 3.2 update, I got this response:
The current version of Netflix available on the Android Market is only supported for Android 2.2 based phones, and not any Honeycomb tablets. While installing the Netflix 1.3 APK has enabled Netflix for other Honeycomb tablets, officially, they are still not supported. At this time, users will have to wait on an updated release from Netflix.
-Rick, ASUS
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The lenovo thinkpad is a honeycomb tablet and its a supported device. Not everything a customer support guy says is true.
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Which is why I'm kind of volleying more questions at him. Hopefully he keeps responding.
Movies is in my Android Market though.
Maybe Netflix hasn't updated the market yet.
Just root your tablet and take it into your own hands.
netflix and market has nothing to do with it.
sry im on 3.2 and dont feel like downgrading...
You can root 3.2
I did it earlier today and it took like 10 mins. Couldn't have been easier.
Just use the batch script that works for 3.2
Sorry can't post the link from my phone.
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The lenovo thinkpad also isn't out.. and this has nothing to do with money.
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The lenovo thinkpad also isn't out.. and this has nothing to do with money.
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So what if it's not out? It's a supported device.
Guys,
The ASUS support rep is wrong. Netflix 1.3 DOES work on Honeycomb tablets, the XOOM being one of them. There is no conspiracy here, no matter how hard you look. When attempting to stream from Netflix on the Transformer using Honeycomb 3.2, you get that error message. A peek in logcat shows the Netflix app yells about not finding function DRM.play inside OMX. This is a function of a NEWER version of libnvomx than ships on the Transformer or in it's updates.
XOOM has newer libnvomx w/ drm.play function = working netflix
Transformer (and other tablets) with libnvomx WITHOUT drm.play = broke netflix
Since the hardware inside the XOOM and the Transformer are VERY similar, I was able to pull the newer libnvomx.so from the XOOM and overwrite the one on my Transformer to make Netflix function. That's ALL the Netflix app cares about. It doesn't care what device you are on, or if Netflix has been "paid" by that manufacturer. That said, because the Transformer IS a different device than the XOOM, things break when doing this. I do believe the only problem on the Transformer that I've seen reported is that the libnvomx replacement breaks WMV playback. Not a big issue for most, tbh. The same fix works on the Acer Iconia, but replacing the file breaks their camera.
You need to petition the manufacturer of your particular device to compile an updated version of OMX w/ the drm.play function and include it in an official OTA.
Otherwise root and replace the file yourself with one from a different device and deal with whatever breaks.
^This is how my Netflix patch works. It's a flashable zip with nothing but libnvomx.so from a XOOM 3.2 ROM. I think we are lucky on the Transformer that nothing breaks except for WMV playback.
well the question is did netflix provide moto with that drm files cause more than likely its talor made for them and it may be the only thing that uses it
It IS about money.
Each manufacturer has to pay software/hardware engineers to design their devices and make sure the device works with Android.
--Some manufacturers are likely paying for more/better engineers.
In our case, it's a matter of Asus paying someone to get Netflix working. As noted above, anytime you make changes on software you might break something else. So the engineer(s) have to do all kinds of "magic" to make sure that something works like it's supposed to without disrupting something else...
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well the question is did netflix provide moto with that drm files cause more than likely its talor made for them and it may be the only thing that uses it
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No, that's not a realistic question at all. As I clearly stated, the drm functions are a part of OMX. Moto simply is using more up to date libraries in their ROM than ASUS.
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It IS about money.
Each manufacturer has to pay software/hardware engineers to design their devices and make sure the device works with Android.
--Some manufacturers are likely paying for more/better engineers.
In our case, it's a matter of Asus paying someone to get Netflix working. As noted above, anytime you make changes on software you might break something else. So the engineer(s) have to do all kinds of "magic" to make sure that something works like it's supposed to without disrupting something else...
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Agreed. It is NOT, however, about device manufacturers having to pay some sort of imaginary extortion fee to Netflix so that their app will run on a particular device.
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Which is why I'm kind of volleying more questions at him. Hopefully he keeps responding.
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I'll bet he can't wait to come to work and answer more of your questions....
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I'll bet he can't wait to come to work and answer more of your questions....
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who cares if he is excited to answer his questions or not, it's his job.
When asking about dock RMA I asked about why Netflix was promoted on Transformer website, by Asus etc...
I got this response.
Thank you for contacting ASUS. I do apologize for any possible inconvenience or confusion you have experienced thus far. Please advise that while a native Netflix application may not yet be available, any development or availability of Netflix service on Android tablets is controlled strictly by Netflix and/or Google, as hardware manufacturers have no bearing or control over when software applications are available for the Android OS. With that said, I believe that a Netflix application for Android is well into development and should be available relatively soon.
Again I do apologize for any inconvenience. Thank you again for your consideration.
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All true, but still didn't answer my question.
Only hope is Google/Netflix get things worked out sooner rather than later.
That reply from the ASUS rep makes it sound like they didn't even know that a Netflix app for Android was available. Clueless.
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Not sure if anyone saw this, but a hacked version of the Netflix app has been released that is supposed to bypass device checking.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076150
Has anyone had any luck getting it to work on the TF? I read some Xoom users having issues, beginning to think it wasn't set up for HC (The hack that is).
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Not sure if anyone saw this, but a hacked version of the Netflix app has been released that is supposed to bypass device checking.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076150
Has anyone had any luck getting it to work on the TF? I read some Xoom users having issues, beginning to think it wasn't set up for HC (The hack that is).
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Doesn't work
I heard that it won't work on Tegra 2 devices yet.
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Seconded. No go for any of them.
Yes it installs, no it will not work. There's a huge thread here in this forum somewhere where people try all sorts of things to no avail.
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I heard that it won't work on Tegra 2 devices yet.
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Not true. I have it working on a Viewsonic Gtablet running cyanogenmod 7.0.3. Viewsonic has Tegra 2. However, it should be noted that the cyanogenmod does not use the hardware acceleration available for Tegra 2.
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I heard that it won't work on Tegra 2 devices yet.
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It works on gtablet with CM7.0.3 with modified build.prop no problem.
This was kind of a reason to hold on my gtablet a bit longer.
I also have it working on my Atrix which also has a Tegra 2. From what I've read, honeycomb is the problem, not Tegra.
The Netflix app seems to be very picky. On my phone it will work with CyanogenMod G2 6.1.1 but not CyanogenMod G2 7.0.3. So hardware might not be the issue.
If I remember the error log correctly we were getting the same error message on the G2 CM 7 stable builds as we are now getting with the EEE Pad (about the DRM libs). Cyanogen got Netflix mostly working in his v7 nightly builds so maybe we will luck out and his fix will apply to the Prime firmware too
Has anyone tried any Netflix builds on the leaked 3.1?
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Has anyone tried any Netflix builds on the leaked 3.1?
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i have... tried the virgin app, the virgin 1.1 app, and the modified app.... before it said it couldnt find the service or whatever (error 1005), but on 3.1 it says the device could not be activated for streaming.
Cisco Anyconnect (for Samsung) has finally appeared on the Marketplace.
It shows compatibility for both my EVO and Transformer, however installation failed on both devices.
Has anyone gotten this to work? This will be critical for our bringing Transformers into our organization.
Tried it... Couldn't install.
It probably needs some kernel module or whatever that the TF doesn't have.
This is exactly why I hate Android....anyconnect only works on these devices, netflix only works on these, etc. etc.....stupid, and will probably lead to android's demise.
It didn't install on either of my devices but my guess is that this version has only been developed for a specific "Samsung" device. That is what Cisco did with the Jabber client as well.
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This is exactly why I hate Android....anyconnect only works on these devices, netflix only works on these, etc. etc.....stupid, and will probably lead to android's demise.
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I hate that about Android also, which I think is bull**** but meh!
From this thread:
[...] I spoke to a Cisco rep yesterday who said that the Anyconnect client would be available for the Samsung Galaxy, Xoom, and Cius very soon. I asked him why other devices weren't supported and he said that Google wouldn't provide the hooks into Android needed to write the software for other devices. [...]
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I love Android, but stuff like this... Oh well...
Well I feel a little better, I just got vpnc widget working.
AnyConnect
I read that the newest EEE Pad update had the drivers for the Cisco VPN. Does this mean that it should work?
donnatn said:
I read that the newest EEE Pad update had the drivers for the Cisco VPN. Does this mean that it should work?
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Hm, mine worked fine before I went from 1.8.4 Prime to 1.9, which happened to be the same time nearabouts as the last version upgrade of AnyConnect. So, not entirely sure which side the issue is on, but I'm having trouble with tun.ko as well now.
the answer is in the prime 1.9 thread. I couldn't find the exact post but i read it recently
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This is exactly why I hate Android....anyconnect only works on these devices, netflix only works on these, etc. etc.....stupid, and will probably lead to android's demise.
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Netflix is a DRM issue which is up to the manufacturers to support, not Android.
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the answer is in the prime 1.9 thread. I couldn't find the exact post but i read it recently
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Yep, thanks found it @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17485576&postcount=204
Hi Guys
I'm new to the TF forum, but I've had a good year of experience with android after getting my Captivate and doing all sorts of stuff in it.
I just got a B90 transformer, but it appears that anything over B70 can't root or do any modifications to it. That's not really an issue for me if the stock experience is good enough.
I'm guessing a B90 is quite new so I'm wondering if there are any other users with B90s have any issues with it? How is the experience like?
If anyone is wondering why did I get the B90 when I know I can't do anything with it. That's because it was on sale for 449 tablet + dock. I think that's a good price and I needed a tablet and knowing that Asus wouldn't cut the price of the TF with the release of the TF2. However, if the price does drop, I'll just bug my credit card company for price protection guarantee =)
I read that the number there is the month so yours was built in Sept. The problem rooting newer than B70 is they updated part of the bootloader back then apparently and the guys here haven't figured out how to crack it yet.
http://androidroot.mobi/
take a good read here
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http://androidroot.mobi/
take a good read here
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I'm new here as well so thanks for the link my tablet is b70 to op nice to see other newbies
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Am i correct in thinking that all TFs have all the same hardware regardless of the b50,60,etc?
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Am i correct in thinking that all TFs have all the same hardware regardless of the b50,60,etc?
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you are correct, in BxO the x stands for the month of manufacture, however there is a little piece of code on the silicon that is the first piece of code to run that has changed somewhere in august also there are a set of e-fuses which have had a different key burned into them, this key change is what stumped the root to begin with, and the first piece of code that changed is what has tripped up nvflash once the key was revealed to us
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http://androidroot.mobi/
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Looking at this, they mentioned B70 and B80, but nothing about B90. I wonder if there's any changes between those units in that matter.
I read somewhere that the awesome devs had created a rooting method for b70+, and they were waiting to release it. I have a feeling if you hang tight, you'll get root eventually.
Personally, I required root to run cifs and tun modules in order to stream movies from my fileserver and the ability to VPN into my workplace. YMMV.
Good luck, and welcome to the TF family - it's an awesome device!
Would be interesting, if the B90 transformer has the same SBK like the newer B70's and the B80's.
I mean if it has "Sbk2" or if it has the new "Sbk3" which is also used at the transformer 3G and I think at the asus slider.
Maybe you can try the Sbk-detect from here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290503
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Personally, I required root to run cifs and tun modules in order to stream movies from my fileserver and the ability to VPN into my workplace. YMMV.
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That's mainly what I'm after. I use those on my Nook Color that's on CM7. The real question is why Android ships without those features anyway.
likiud said:
Looking at this, they mentioned B70 and B80, but nothing about B90. I wonder if there's any changes between those units in that matter.
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good gravy >_> didnt you read the comments on the top post on the page?
Hulu Plus is available for Transformer on Google Play.
Yay!
Does it have titles that are only available on the Web? (I tried out the app on XBOX and it was ridiculous to pay for a service only to have a lot of the titles available by web only).
The only one I have in my queue that is web only is How I Meet Your Mother. It says it is web only so it looks like they are still blocking certain shows.
So is it working for you guys? I can browse but getting an error when I try to play a show. DRM Engine not supported on this device. I have Codename Android ROM installed. The old hacked app worked fine but the new one definitely looks better.
Yes. I am on rooted stock rom.
And then disables HDMI out on said tablets
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I agree with the HDMI output disabled. It's BS that I pay a monthly fee and I can't watch it on my TV.
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Is there a fix to make it work on CM ROM?
Response from Hulu - HDMI Output Disabled
Michael K., Mar 30 10:28 am (PDT):
Hi,
Thanks for writing in and sorry for the confusion. Currently we are unable to support the HDMI out feature on the ASUS eee Pad Transformer due to content licensing reasons. We're actively looking into freeing up these rights and hopefully we'll be able to offer it in the near future. In any case, I'm sorry for the inconvenience in the meantime.
If there's anything else you'd like addressed, please be sure to let me know.
Thanks,
Michael K.
Hulu Support
Typical canned response I got after I asked about the HDMI output being disabled.
kdog78 said:
Michael K., Mar 30 10:28 am (PDT):
Hi,
Thanks for writing in and sorry for the confusion. Currently we are unable to support the HDMI out feature on the ASUS eee Pad Transformer due to content licensing reasons. We're actively looking into freeing up these rights and hopefully we'll be able to offer it in the near future. In any case, I'm sorry for the inconvenience in the meantime.
If there's anything else you'd like addressed, please be sure to let me know.
Thanks,
Michael K.
Hulu Support
Typical canned response I got after I asked about the HDMI output being disabled.
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Did they say anything about DRM engine?
rome425 said:
Did they say anything about DRM engine?
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No mention of it.
Hopefully someone finds a fix for the DRM I'm running AOKP on my Transformer
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Has anyone figured out how to get this to run on CM9? I havent had any luck.
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Totally stupid question.. how do u even use the HDMI out on this thing? lol I cant find a setting for it and nothing happens when I plug in the HDMI cable
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Totally stupid question.. how do u even use the HDMI out on this thing? lol I cant find a setting for it and nothing happens when I plug in the HDMI cable
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No settings that I'm aware of for HDMI. I just plug it into my TV and change the TV input. Can view anything that is displayed on the screen.
Has anyone got this working yet on a rooted device?
Sorry if a solution has already been found but this works as well. The tegra 3 splashtop app is amazing. I'm on my home network and it works perfectly. So I just use the web version of hulu and it supports fullscreen. Don't know how well it would work on wifi discovery. But at least, if you are at home and want to watch through hdmi it works great
I hope this is the correct forum to ask these questions.
1: Can someone help me understand the lack of compatibility between the Transformer and a decent chunk of apps that seem to work just fine on other Android Tablets.
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2: Does the Transformer Prime have these exact same issues?
Is Asus just using an unusual hardware setup that no other vendor is using or is the software just that borked?
The Transformer is an OK piece of hardware and I wouldn't mind upgrading to a prime or even a 700 when they release but if they will have (or already do have) the same issues I will be switching to another hardware company for my next Android tablet.
I am running stock Rom and just don't feel like going through the hassle of using one of the modded OS's unless they are just "that much better".
Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.
Grumsh said:
I hope this is the correct forum to ask these questions.
1: Can someone help me understand the lack of compatibility between the Transformer and a decent chunk of apps that seem to work just fine on other Android Tablets.
And
2: Does the Transformer Prime have these exact same issues?
Is Asus just using an unusual hardware setup that no other vendor is using or is the software just that borked?
The Transformer is an OK piece of hardware and I wouldn't mind upgrading to a prime or even a 700 when they release but if they will have (or already do have) the same issues I will be switching to another hardware company for my next Android tablet.
I am running stock Rom and just don't feel like going through the hassle of using one of the modded OS's unless they are just "that much better".
Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.
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What applications are you talking about specifically? Only ones I know of are gameloft games, but I figured out how to make them work by editing a few lines within the apk thanks to a guide I found awhile back.
Yes,
A list of the ones you want that are not working would be good..
While I do get the market telling me that there is a few that are not for the transformer..
I usually push them to my phone then transfer them over..and they work fine..
Also..as this is a Q/A.. refer to this post..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14728247
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Yes,
A list of the ones you want that are not working would be good..
While I do get the market telling me that there is a few that are not for the transformer..
I usually push them to my phone then transfer them over..and they work fine..
Also..as this is a Q/A.. refer to this post..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14728247
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Sorry I forgot about operation Iron fist ( been a while since I have posted here I mainly lurk ). While Game loft games are an example there are others that are not games which made me decide to finally ask the question.
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Sorry I forgot about operation Iron fist ( been a while since I have posted here I mainly lurk ). While Game loft games are an example there are others that are not games which made me decide to finally ask the question.
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You should try getting the apk by other means if the market says its not compatible (like from your phone for ex.) If all else fails, you might have to 'edit' the apk like I did.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
You should try getting the apk by other means if the market says its not compatible (like from your phone for ex.) If all else fails, you might have to 'edit' the apk like I did.
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Mind linking to that method of editing apk's you found? Thanks.
Saav said:
Mind linking to that method of editing apk's you found? Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25509954#post25509954
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25509954#post25509954
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Much appreciated, thank you.