Complain to HTC that once again they are in violation of the GPL. For some reason they think that they are allowed to pull this nonsense. The GPL clearly states that kernel source must be released day 1 that the accompanying Rom is released or before. We need to put some effort into this issue. Personally I have pursued this with HTC and gpl-violations.org, but we need many others to do the same if we want this to change. Make some noise people!
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Anyone who wants HTC to release kernel source in a timely fashion and not 90-120 days later can email the above with a complaint.
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What is the point of this?
The idea of this is to convince htc to unlock the bootloaders and disable the NAND protection on their phones
Why should I support this?
Unlocking the bootloader and disabling the NAND protection will allow users to keep their phones up to date using custom roms such as CM7. Take the htc wildfire for example. In december 2010, HTC released a 2.2 update for the wildfire. However, hidden in this update was a new bootloader which could not (and still can not as of the 9th may 2011) be modified. It is unlikely that HTC will release another update for this phone, meaning that users are going to be stuck on this rom. The reason? So HTC can sell new phones. However what this is doing is putting users off buying HTC's devices since rival companies have announced that the users can easily unlock the bootloaders on their devices.
To support the campaign please sign the petition at http://goo.gl/uIeqv and you can like us on facebook at http://goo.gl/e1CqN
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Signed, good work!
Good
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BIG UPDATE: we got featured on androidspin http://androidspin.com/2011/05/18/c...ition-for-unlocked-bootloaders/#dsq-form-area
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And now eurodroid.com/2011/05/htc-fans-launch-petition-for-unlocked-bootloaders/
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What is the point of this?
The idea of this is to convince htc to unlock the bootloaders and disable the NAND protection on their phones
Why should I support this?
Unlocking the bootloader and disabling the NAND protection will allow users to keep their phones up to date using custom roms such as CM7. Take the htc wildfire for example. In december 2010, HTC released a 2.2 update for the wildfire. However, hidden in this update was a new bootloader which could not (and still can not as of the 15th may 2011) be modified. It is unlikely that HTC will release another update for this phone, meaning that users are going to be stuck on this rom. The reason? So HTC can sell new phones. However what this is doing is putting users off buying HTC's devices since rival companies have announced that the users can easily unlock the bootloaders on their devices.
To support the campaign please sign the petition at http://goo.gl/uIeqv and you can like us on facebook at http://goo.gl/e1CqN and you can see updates on my blog at http://goo.gl/KdpFr
We got featured on androidspin http://goo.gl/DryCd and eurodroid http://goo.gl/4SNf8
I've just sign it every bit help the cause.
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we need way more attention to this topic...after 1.5 years with the motorola milestone I was waiting for a awesome htc device...although the sensation is inferior to the samsung galaxy s2, I would go for it..I would totally turn a blind eye on the fact that it has less ram, ridiculouse internal storage and its thickness..my only true concern was the bootloader..after the milestone I would never ever go for a device with a signed bootloader again..I would totally pass on guarantee just to have an open bootloader..
If I may interject. The point of a locked bootloader is not to sell more devices, it is to protect the intellectual property contained on said locked device from being dumped, IE full versions of otherwise payed programs that the OEM includes in their ROM(Swype etc.). If users are able to simply dump an image that contains these programs, they can then redistribute them as they see fit. Do not misread me, I am for unlocked bootloaders 100% and have used HTC devices for almost 5 years now. I just wanted to add my opinion that its not about you buying another device for an update, its about manufactures trying to protect themselves.
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Fair one
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I support!
Here goes my support
+1 support
But the dump still leaks out in the form of a ruu
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If you havent already please share
On another note its great to see that there are 133 new sigs overnight
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If you havent already please share
On another note its great to see that there are 133 new sigs overnight
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I signed and shared the information.
Good
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We got 2k sigs!!!!! And it is now a featured groubal http://www.groubal.com/
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brilldoctor said:
We got 2k sigs!!!!! And it is now a featured groubal http://www.groubal.com/
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That's roughly €1000000/£877000/$1423000 in sold phones(when price in € is 500,which is lower than atleast here in Finland). That kind of money should have some effect?
Signed and shared
just signed.
3000+ nice
So, at what point does this get submitted to HTC??
7k sigs
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Football is on a roll lately releasing Sensation ruu, so far we have 8 ruu already in development section not including Asia ruu that would be 9 updates. It's getting very interesting indeed.
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epsix said:
Football is on a roll lately releasing Sensation ruu, so far we have 8 ruu already in development section not including Asia ruu that would be 9 updates. It's getting very interesting indeed.
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But sadly, none of these currently have an ENG H-BOOT (as far as we know )
We need that.
According the Linux license (GNU?)???
I'm pretty sure there is a time frame, correct?
I don't think they have any time according to the license. But who's going to sue? We all have the right to I believe
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smatman said:
I don't think they have any time according to the license. But who's going to sue? We all have the right to I believe
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I wasn't asking for legal purposes... more so because HTC has a good relationship with the dev community, so I figure they wouldn't go past the time frame. I swear I heard time frames being thrown around when Android was in its earlier stages and kernel sources were released.
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I wasn't asking for legal purposes... more so because HTC has a good relationship with the dev community, so I figure they wouldn't go past the time frame. I swear I heard time frames being thrown around when Android was in its earlier stages and kernel sources were released.
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According to GPL, they have 90-120 days to release the kernel source. Now, the problem lies in that we don't know exactly what date HTC started counting from. They could've started counting from the release of the Rogers One X, or the release of the international One XL, or the release of the ATT One X.
bubbinator91 said:
According to GPL, they have 90-120 days to release the kernel source. Now, the problem lies in that we don't know exactly what date HTC started counting from. They could've started counting from the release of the Rogers One X, or the release of the international One XL, or the release of the ATT One X.
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Should be by the end of August they would have to go by the first released which was Rogers in March I think.
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kleeman7 said:
Should be by the end of August they would have to go by the first released which was Rogers in March I think.
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Rogers was released April 20th... Not march.
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According to GPL, they have 90-120 days to release the kernel source. Now, the problem lies in that we don't know exactly what date HTC started counting from. They could've started counting from the release of the Rogers One X, or the release of the international One XL, or the release of the ATT One X.
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Actually according to the GPL source has to be released simultaneously with the software release.
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dodava said:
Actually according to the GPL source has to be released simultaneously with the software release.
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Correct. Kernel source, per the license, must be released at the time a device is available with that kernel.
Other source, from Apache license, is different. But we only care about kernel source. Mostly, at least.
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Kernel source has just been released it looks like!
NOW *****ES. Well... A few hours ago
Complain to HTC that once again they are in violation of the GPL. For some reason they think that they are allowed to pull this nonsense. The GPL clearly states that kernel source must be released day 1 that the accompanying Rom is released or before. We need to put some effort into this issue. Personally I have pursued this with HTC and gpl-violations.org, but we need many others to do the same if we want this to change. Make some noise people!
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Anyone who wants HTC to release kernel source in a timely fashion and not 90-120 days later can email the above with a complaint.
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c5satellite2 said:
Complain to HTC that once again they are in violation of the GPL. For some reason they think that they are allowed to pull this nonsense. The GPL clearly states that kernel source must be released day 1 that the accompanying Rom is released or before. We need to put some effort into this issue. Personally I have pursued this with HTC and gpl-violations.org, but we need many others to do the same if we want this to change. Make some noise people!
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Well a lot of constructors do so, in France an ISP used GPL stuff for years and they released source code when they renewed their hardware which means years later
What do you think if we start a facebook group or page !
I think the petition is a good start, but we need to get htc attention!
One way could be to create a page or a group on facebook of disappointed customers that can start a campaign consisting in posting on Htc related pages to express the disappointing of this shameful updates policy!
I started a group and a page on facebook, there are the links: GROUP and PAGE
We can do the same also on Goggle+!!!!
What do you think? what else we can do?
We can try, but I think that normal users/customers like us havent enough power to change htcs decisions..
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NQNH said:
We can try, but I think that normal users/customers like us havent enough power to change htcs decisions..
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Just do it we have nothing to loose now and HTC have every thing to loose.
This is not just about the one s but all there phones the more people that no there will be no updates on there phones the more people stop buying them , including there flagship phones.
I joined the group and liked the page. I think it makes it harder to defend android phones when we have this kind of lack of support and updates. At least for the average user who doesnt want to root.
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Apparently Qualcomm isn't supporting HTC with needed drivers for the s3 models and in conclusion there's no update for either device... They even said that the current stock Rom is already perfectly optimized so there is no need for an update in the first place. What kind of twisted logic is that? The phone has 2 years warranty and one year passed and update support already ends? If they pull through with this, this is my last HTC phone..
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Seriously.....this has already been tried with a more popular phone the Desire HD and NOTHING came of it. HTC just does not care what people care/think.
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DroidRunner said:
Seriously.....this has already been tried with a more popular phone the Desire HD and NOTHING came of it. HTC just does not care what people care/think.
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HTC desire its true I was there to and HTC did nothing , and here we all are again how many times are we going to let HTC screw us?
Let's see I have owned G1, Hd2,Evo4g,Sensation,and One S.Now I own S2,Droid Razr,Galaxy Nexus,Nexus7 paid about half of what I would have for HTC much happier seems crazy to pay 650 for a device that will have slow updates and early retirement plus there s off and unlock suck next up for me Moto X
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Petition on change.org
Sign the Petition on change.org mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349075
Maybe HTC will change their mind, at least for the C1/S4-Versions.
Here's the direct link to participate, about 500 supporters still needed!
https://www.change.org/petitions/ht...utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition
greetings
Matthias
searchworlds said:
What do you think if we start a facebook group or page !
I think the petition is a good start, but we need to get htc attention!
One way could be to create a page or a group on facebook of disappointed customers that can start a campaign consisting in posting on Htc related pages to express the disappointing of this shameful updates policy!
I started a group and a page on facebook, there are the links: GROUP and PAGE
We can do the same also on Goggle+!!!!
What do you think? what else we can do?
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its too late for the one s. they dont read/dont care about these petitions and fb pages. want to make a change? vote with your wallet. stop buying HTC phones
Is the PAGE gone?
HTC must have threatened facebook into removing it lol. Scumbags
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