How long does HTC have to release kernel source? - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

According the Linux license (GNU?)???
I'm pretty sure there is a time frame, correct?

I don't think they have any time according to the license. But who's going to sue? We all have the right to I believe
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smatman said:
I don't think they have any time according to the license. But who's going to sue? We all have the right to I believe
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I wasn't asking for legal purposes... more so because HTC has a good relationship with the dev community, so I figure they wouldn't go past the time frame. I swear I heard time frames being thrown around when Android was in its earlier stages and kernel sources were released.

zonk7ate9 said:
I wasn't asking for legal purposes... more so because HTC has a good relationship with the dev community, so I figure they wouldn't go past the time frame. I swear I heard time frames being thrown around when Android was in its earlier stages and kernel sources were released.
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According to GPL, they have 90-120 days to release the kernel source. Now, the problem lies in that we don't know exactly what date HTC started counting from. They could've started counting from the release of the Rogers One X, or the release of the international One XL, or the release of the ATT One X.

bubbinator91 said:
According to GPL, they have 90-120 days to release the kernel source. Now, the problem lies in that we don't know exactly what date HTC started counting from. They could've started counting from the release of the Rogers One X, or the release of the international One XL, or the release of the ATT One X.
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Should be by the end of August they would have to go by the first released which was Rogers in March I think.
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kleeman7 said:
Should be by the end of August they would have to go by the first released which was Rogers in March I think.
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Rogers was released April 20th... Not march.
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bubbinator91 said:
According to GPL, they have 90-120 days to release the kernel source. Now, the problem lies in that we don't know exactly what date HTC started counting from. They could've started counting from the release of the Rogers One X, or the release of the international One XL, or the release of the ATT One X.
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Actually according to the GPL source has to be released simultaneously with the software release.
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dodava said:
Actually according to the GPL source has to be released simultaneously with the software release.
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Correct. Kernel source, per the license, must be released at the time a device is available with that kernel.
Other source, from Apache license, is different. But we only care about kernel source. Mostly, at least.
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Kernel source has just been released it looks like!

NOW *****ES. Well... A few hours ago

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Man, where are the overclock modules at?

I can't believe this phone hasn't been overclocked yet. It seems like no one is working on it.
Arcadia310 said:
I can't believe this phone hasn't been overclocked yet. It seems like no one is working on it.
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From my understanding don't we need the kernel source to be able to over clock.
Arcadia310 said:
I can't believe this phone hasn't been overclocked yet. It seems like no one is working on it.
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I feel the same way..
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Give it some time. The G2 it took them a while. After all the device has only been out for what 10 Days or so. Hopefully they will release the Kernel soon.
bobsbbq said:
Give it some time. The G2 it took them a while. After all the device has only been out for what 10 Days or so. Hopefully they will release the Kernel soon.
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Whoa you're right....it feels like I've had the mytouch for a lot longer than that...
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Arcadia310 said:
I can't believe this phone hasn't been overclocked yet. It seems like no one is working on it.
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Nothing the community can do until HTC releases the kernel.
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c_licious said:
Nothing the community can do until HTC releases the kernel.
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No kidding. What takes them so long to release it?
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Arcadia310 said:
No kidding. What takes them so long to release it?
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Unfortunately, the GPL is kind of gray when it comes to when source code has to be released. Manufacturer's usually release it in a matter of weeks, sometimes days to keep the open source community happy. However, there are times where they'll hold the code back for reason's unknown. Dell caught a lot of hell for this when holding back the source code for the streak, because it was specifically requested and they denied the request. With HTC, it looks like they waited about a month before releasing source code for the G2. I'd say that's a pretty good indication of when we'll see the MT4G source code.

[Q] When is 4.1 jelly bean being released?

You knew this question was going to come. Now that 4.1 has been announced, when are we getting ours?
This will take a longer time for sure, as HTC is still busy to release ICS
Jellybean dev kits are supposed to be released mid july. At least that's what this source says: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/06/27/google-announces-android-41-jelly-bean/
But it may be a while before we get a working ROM.
Given the time it took the CM team to release CM9 RC1, I'd say 6 months!
what about this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736699
Brace yourself for a long wait
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While ICS is quite nice, it is hard not to want the latest, greatest thing on our devices Still, at least the Nexus 7 is available to fulfil the JB goodness until it's available. That may end up replacing my Nook Color which hasn't been used in a month since it's ac adapter gave up the ghost.
HTC says they "don't yet have an announcement" for Jelly Bean on existing devices.
... I can't post a link because <10 posts, but there is an article on pocket-lint.com
That will only lead to an anemic SDK ROM. sure it will show us the cool new features, but I wouldn't expect much. I wonder how long it takes to hit AOSP
kjacksonmusic said:
what about this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736699
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Q1 or Q2 next year would be my guess
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Since i'm assuming jellybean isn't as big of a change internally as ICS was from gingerbread it'll be a shorter wait. Still I wouldn't expect anything shorter than like Oct of this year.
seangprice said:
Q1 or Q2 next year would be my guess
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I heard GSM Nexus devices are already receiving leaked OTA of 4.1 today.
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mjm128 said:
Since i'm assuming jellybean isn't as big of a change internally as ICS was from gingerbread it'll be a shorter wait. Still I wouldn't expect anything shorter than like Oct of this year.
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Actually most of the changes are internal. I think project butter is a big internal change. Although the One S is already very smooth, squeezing more performance out of the S4 is a welcomed thing
How about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737340
jawedzebra said:
How about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737340
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Pretty interesting read. Looking at the pictures it doesn't look much different. I wonder what changes it will bring along.
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Check engadget, the new additions are all pretty cool. I def wouldn't mind having an even smoother os
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jellybean just got sent ota for gsm galaxy nexus !
Google doesn't care
I remember reading recently that Google knows about fragmentation but isn't worried about it. Now that I'm tempted to buy a media device to have the latest and greatest software, I can see how fragmentation can actually work for Google because now more and more people will look to buy nexus devices.
the main reason i got a HTC phone is because unlike Samsung's strange choice in hardware it dosnt take 5 months to port a fast stable release from the MOD team unlike HTC
lets hope this takes off !
the one X got already a port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737736

Android 4.1 on the International One X

Just saw this. Many issues but still pretty cool that they got it booting up so fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737736
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darktranquility18 said:
Just saw this. Many issues but still pretty cool that they got it booting up so fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737736
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nice.
We'd have it too if we had kernel source.
wonderful,
starting to hate htc. love the phone but whats the problem with the source?
I think they're waiting to release the 2.xx update then will release source on that.
I'm sure it's AT&Ts fault.
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derekedw said:
I'm sure it's AT&Ts fault.
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Lol its not like HTC updated the international One X. Devs got it working. Only a matter of time before someone comes up with something that works with the ATT HOX
darktranquility18 said:
Lol its not like HTC updated the international One X. Devs got it working. Only a matter of time before someone comes up with something that works with the ATT HOX
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Intl one x source was released long ago though
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rquinn19 said:
Intl one x source was released long ago though
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Oh for real? I just got my phone today. A lot of catching up to do it seems
The kernel source should be released within the next 2 months hopefully.
rquinn19 said:
Intl one x source was released long ago though
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Their phone was also released long before ours, though.
kilo89 said:
Their phone was also released long before ours, though.
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Not really though. Maybe a couple weeks, but att soft launched the hoxl, but only started advertising a week ago.
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derekedw said:
Not really though. Maybe a couple weeks, but att soft launched the hoxl, but only started advertising a week ago.
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You're right, I just checked. It was April 2nd. For some reason I was under the impression it was back in February or so.
Well, they definitely are overdue then!
::shudders::
Eww...an SDK port :-(.
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kilo89 said:
You're right, I just checked. It was April 2nd. For some reason I was under the impression it was back in February or so.
Well, they definitely are overdue then!
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I'm guessing July for source.
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anyone konw if i can use this rom on my att hox? if so how??
No you can't
iNaShTy said:
anyone konw if i can use this rom on my att hox? if so how??
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There will never be an end to the people who don't read and can't figure out that the international and the XL are basically completely different phones in terms of development and processors -_-
blaine.hale said:
There will never be an end to the people who don't read and can't figure out that the international and the XL are basically completely different phones in terms of development and processors -_-
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Thanks to At&T not calling the phone the One XL
iNaShTy said:
anyone konw if i can use this rom on my att hox? if so how??
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As long as US phones have different processors, we'll never be able to use international mods or roms.
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Not true. Porting international roms will be trivial once we get source.

HTC in violation of GPL

Complain to HTC that once again they are in violation of the GPL. For some reason they think that they are allowed to pull this nonsense. The GPL clearly states that kernel source must be released day 1 that the accompanying Rom is released or before. We need to put some effort into this issue. Personally I have pursued this with HTC and gpl-violations.org, but we need many others to do the same if we want this to change. Make some noise people!
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Anyone who wants HTC to release kernel source in a timely fashion and not 90-120 days later can email the above with a complaint.
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c5satellite2 said:
Complain to HTC that once again they are in violation of the GPL. For some reason they think that they are allowed to pull this nonsense. The GPL clearly states that kernel source must be released day 1 that the accompanying Rom is released or before. We need to put some effort into this issue. Personally I have pursued this with HTC and gpl-violations.org, but we need many others to do the same if we want this to change. Make some noise people!
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Well a lot of constructors do so, in France an ISP used GPL stuff for years and they released source code when they renewed their hardware which means years later

Sense 5 and 4.2.2 confirmed for the evita?

https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/314061165569400832 Just saw this on the android subreddit. The other devices listed are the evitare (AT&T One X Plus), Jewel (EVO 4G LTE), and DLX_WL (Droid DNA).
oooh that would be nice!
Any idea who the guy tweeting is? I'm guessing a random developer. What makes his tweet any different/more important then the news we received from htc saying the one x will receive sense 5 eventually?
In any event, looks like good news and I can't wait!
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Any idea who the guy tweeting is? I'm guessing a random developer. What makes his tweet any different/more important then the news we received from htc saying the one x will receive sense 5 eventually?
In any event, looks like good news and I can't wait!
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Because HTC officially confirmed only for the international quad core version of the phone. Also, I have no clue who the person tweeting it is, hence why I put the question mark in the title. But it seems legit...
The "guy" is Football. It is spelled backwards since some issues in December.
A well respected source of info.
He leaked about 90% of the RUU's we have for our devices before he stopped doing that in December 2012.
He gives highly accurate info regarding the state of devices and their updates.
I believe he is a HTC employee with at least access to RUU's for both internal and public builds.
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The "guy" is Football. It is spelled backwards since some issues in December.
I well respected source of info.
He leaked about 90% of the RUU's we have for our devices before he stopped doing that in December 2012.
He gives highly accurate info regarding the state of devices and their updates.
I believe he is a HTC employee with at least access to RUU's for both internal and public builds.
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... How I didn't notice that I just don't know lol
Question is when will at&t push ota,my guess is 4quater of this year,considering we just got jb,plus they will want the htc one to sell ,so there for thats why i dont think will get it tll after htc one's sales slow down???
jwhood said:
Question is when will at&t push ota,my guess is 4quater of this year,considering we just got jb,plus they will want the htc one to sell ,so there for thats why i dont think will get it tll after htc one's sales slow down???
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If you're rooted it doesn't really matter when AT&T releases it, just when the first carrier does or when it gets leaked. Still, I wouldn't expect it for a bit, probably not until the summer at the earliest. Unless HTC really is being truthful about updating their phones in a timely manner.
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If you're rooted it doesn't really matter when AT&T releases it, just when the first carrier does or when it gets leaked. Still, I wouldn't expect it for a bit, probably not until the summer at the earliest. Unless HTC really is being truthful about updating their phones in a timely manner.
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I agree on the leak,just hope newroot can get it ported and the the ota would be obsolete,except for fixing bugs and tighting the kernel up a bit!!!
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I'll believe it when I see it. I'd love to see CleanROM or ViperXL Sense 5 ROMs, though.
Protogon said:
I'll believe it when I see it. I'd love to see CleanROM or ViperXL Sense 5 ROMs, though.
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Viper said they are waiting for source to port if im not mistaken,the guys over at evolte thread got a sense 5 booting but shuts off after a minute or two!!!
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Would be cool to have as a better base for devs. Although I'm preparing for the noobz to ota and brick their devices lol
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4.2.2 would be cool, but sense 5 is meh. All its going to do is make the phone look like a cartoon with sharp edges.
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ECEXCURSION said:
4.2.2 would be cool, but sense 5 is meh. All its going to do is make the phone look like a cartoon with sharp edges.
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And I 100% agree with you. The only new thing I see is the blink feed which many apps can already do. Last time I checked sense 5 is 4.1.2 right?
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ECEXCURSION said:
4.2.2 would be cool, but sense 5 is meh. All its going to do is make the phone look like a cartoon with sharp edges.
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agreed, i'm so-so on sense 5, but would much rather have 4.2.2 if given the choice between one of the two software developments. 5 seems like it could bring about a new set of issues that sense has already worked out in the 4.x versions, but 4.2.2 stands to improve a lot of the little issues that 4.1.x is experiencing.
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And I 100% agree with you. The only new thing I see is the blink feed which many apps can already do. Last time I checked sense 5 is 4.1.2 right?
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Yes, but there's an update to 4.2.2 and they'd fast pass us to 4.2.2 and skip 4.1.2.
You can disable blink feed if you want
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Yes, but there's an update to 4.2.2 and they'd fast pass us to 4.2.2 and skip 4.1.2.
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Are we referring to one xl or one x? (Or is it the same?) I think it is strange to update the one x straight from sense 4 to sense 5 (skipping sense 4+). Then again, after leaving sense I'm glad I did. Not missing anything. I know Evita is the one x (as it says it on my boot loader), but is it the same code name for others? What about enverbous (I think)
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a box of kittens said:
You can disable blink feed if you want
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Not officially. You can only remove it as the default home screen. But you can't disable it.
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Herc08 said:
Are we referring to one xl or one x? (Or is it the same?) I think it is strange to update the one x straight from sense 4 to sense 5 (skipping sense 4+). Then again, after leaving sense I'm glad I did. Not missing anything. I know Evita is the one x (as it says it on my boot loader), but is it the same code name for others? What about enverbous (I think)
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Both the One X and One XL have been updated to Sense 4+ officially, so not sure what you mean by "skipping Sense 4+". The only big thing is that they would be skipping 4.1.2 in favor of 4.2.2, which would make sense IMO

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