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How much free RAM do you have advailable?

I've been looking at how much free ram is available at any given time in my Bolt. With a stock debloated ROM I had about 325MB at start up and as I used the phone it went to ~230mB.
Now I'm running debloated Das BAMFv1.4 and have ~310MB free at boot and ~195 as the phone is use throughout the day.
These number slightly irritate me since my old INC has about 210MB at boot and 170MB as the day went on.
The Bolt has and extra 256MB so I'm thinking that it should reflect this in the free RAM. (I know that the bolt is running more process so call it and extra 170MB it should have)
Why is the Bolt so RAM hungry?
I'm using system panel (free edition works) to see how much free ram I have.

about ~360 on boot and ~250 on average during useage

I believe what you are seeing on the TB is some of that memory is reserved specifically for the GPU while on the incredible may not reflect it or uses less for the GPU.
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Isn't "free ram" wasted ram in Android (and Linux in general)? People obsess over these things for no reason.
Does your phone perform okay? Is it sluggish or snappy? Do the apps you want to use open up fast enough for you? If it's snappy, then what are you worried about free ram for? It's a meaningless geek number unless you're diagnosing some performance issue.
If you really just really have to have more free ram, then get one of those apps like AutoKiller or Min Free Manager and tweak your memory manager settings. Neither of these are "task killers" per se, both are just apps that change the parameters for Android's built-in memory manager.

distortedloop said:
Isn't "free ram" wasted ram in Android (and Linux in general)? People obsess over these things for no reason.
Does your phone perform okay? Is it sluggish or snappy? Do the apps you want to use open up fast enough for you? If it's snappy, then what are you worried about free ram for? It's a meaningless geek number unless you're diagnosing some performance issue.
If you really just really have to have more free ram, then get one of those apps like AutoKiller or Min Free Manager and tweak your memory manager settings. Neither of these are "task killers" per se, both are just apps that change the parameters for Android's built-in memory manager.
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Glad somebody gets it. Free RAM is wasted RAM. Thus why you have things like Superfetch in Windows now which caches all your programs.
My only concern with free RAM is what is taking up that space. Thus why you use a debloated ROM. That way only legitimate programs are taking up space.

I usually sit around 130-150. On my Eris I would be happy if I had 35-40
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Start up is around 420mb with Virus ROM (Senseless) and as the day goes on it gets to around 300mb.

[Q] Low RAM?

Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery level. these were the apps that i downloaded just before the raam went low. oh and i only have 4 widgets running on my screen. (google search widget, power control widget (the one with options to toggle wifi, bluetooth etc etc on and off), a go taskmanager widget to show me how much ram i have and a music app widget) BTW im rooted running stock 2.1. Hope someone can help me!

If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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DarkMD said:
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?

androidlover123 said:
oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.

eejin2 said:
must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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oh ya i forgot to mention i have already been using autokiller memory optimizer at strict level for a month already. yesterday i changed it to aggressive hoping that my ram would increase but to no avail.

then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?

eejin2 said:
then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)

androidlover123 said:
huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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Try to clean cache frequently, that help to
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My suggestion would be to flash the stock Cincinnati bell sbf. I did that recently it is the most updated one from Motorola and is set at 720 MHz by default. I don't use anything and my ram is around 55-60. Smooth as hell. I use launcherpro. Its prettier, you can choose the keep in memory option which stops it from redrawing the screen. Mine is rooted. I get a day and half of battery life with wifi and autosync in 100% of the time, an hour of GPS, 1 hour gaming, one hour music and the odd texts or calls. Hope that helps. Nothing in my opinion beats stock 2.1
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I use CyanogenMod 6 and its pretty nice... i have around 70-80 mb of ram free... btw i have about 25 apps instaled...
Overclock at: 1.1ghz @ 70vsel
Sorry for my bad english jaja
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androidlover123 said:
Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery......
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....

Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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spectacle said:
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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I agree..... but there are still several issues to fix.... I'm waiting for the final product..... Great work by Mioze.

abet1017 said:
If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.

androidlover123 said:
Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?

eejin2 said:
if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!

androidlover123 said:
ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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If you are going to do it from scratch, I suggest you use the cincinnati bell sbf. I have had a very good experience with that. Root with universal androot 1.6.2 beta. After that install open recovery and youre set.

i have about 60 applications installed and here a screen shot of a very comon amount of ram i have in mafia wars when done any were from 95 to 110 i have availble for use.

memory manager

i have autokiller memory optimizer on my droid x2 and it causes problems with audio and notifications. is there any similar apps?

Memory management apps are useless, uninstall it and let Android do its thing, you will be much happier.

it isnt a ordinary task killer it manages ram. it makes a big difference on my device

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it isnt a ordinary task killer it manages ram.
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No it does not, it is the same as all task killers. All task killers "manage ram". And all of them are scams, it is not needed on Android anymore.
whojohnjones said:
it makes a big difference on my device
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So does a sugar pill, but both work for the same reason.

in autokiller memory optimizer u can manage how much free ram is available always

Why would you want free RAM?
Any RAM which is always available is not being used, as it is not being used it is being wasted, this is like always having a set amount of space available in your gas tank and dumping out any gas that goes above that amount, it is flawed logic.
Please take the 45 seconds it takes to read the top part of this, you are hurting yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023

whojohnjones said:
in autokiller memory optimizer u can manage how much free ram is available always
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And how it gets the ram free ?
Right it kills tasks...
What you wanna do with free unused ram ?
Unused ram = dosnt make device faster
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When I listen to music an browse the web without it my phone lags almost to a crawl until I can barely use the keyboard. But maybe you know my phone better than me
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You have apps using memory that you need to turn off or stop using, the memory killer is just masking your shoddy use, sorry but the proof is there, you simply refuse to see it.

Leaky Ram

Hey Guys,
I am relatively new to the world of Android being an IOS man until I took the plunge and got this cracking little Nexus.
One thing I have come across is how I seem to be losing RAM over about a period of an hour or so. On a restart my RAM reads about 1.3gb free. After some time it goes to 900mb free. I have APPs like Advanced Task Manager freeing up RAM every hour but thought that someone may have come up with a software tweak or solution that may stem the flow.
I am running a rooted with standard ROM and ElementalX Kernel.
Cheers
Jason

jasonst165 said:
Hey Guys,
I am relatively new to the world of Android being an IOS man until I took the plunge and got this cracking little Nexus.
One thing I have come across is how I seem to be losing RAM over about a period of an hour or so. On a restart my RAM reads about 1.3gb free. After some time it goes to 900mb free. I have APPs like Advanced Task Manager freeing up RAM every hour but thought that someone may have come up with a software tweak or solution that may stem the flow.
I am running a rooted with standard ROM and ElementalX Kernel.
Cheers
Jason
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using apps that use ram to then try free it up try remove these type of apps and check after a few hours

jasonst165 said:
Hey Guys,
I am relatively new to the world of Android being an IOS man until I took the plunge and got this cracking little Nexus.
One thing I have come across is how I seem to be losing RAM over about a period of an hour or so. On a restart my RAM reads about 1.3gb free. After some time it goes to 900mb free. I have APPs like Advanced Task Manager freeing up RAM every hour but thought that someone may have come up with a software tweak or solution that may stem the flow.
I am running a rooted with standard ROM and ElementalX Kernel.
Cheers
Jason
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Thats not a issue , not in android the less free ram you have the better.. if you search google you'll know and also dont use any app killer.

There's really no need to use apps to free up ram. We got 2gb of ram
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Free ram is wasted ram, don't use any stupid task killers and forget about it
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So remove those APPs and it runs better with less RAM.
The revers of what Im used to :silly:

jasonst165 said:
So remove those APPs and it runs better with less RAM.
The revers of what Im used to :silly:
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You could check RAM usage on iOS? (Genuine question, not a poke at Apple )

Always let android handle itself. I have used android since the HTC G1 and android keeps getting better and better managing itself. Don't use apps that help with the android system. They make it harder for the managing to do what it has to do. Let android do it.
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A memory leak is when a single app (or multiple apps) leak into memory. This would mean if you look in RAM, app1 is using 10MB. Then an hour later app1 is using 40MB, then an hour later, app1 is using 100MB. Its only a leak if the particular app is grabbing more memory and never releasing it.
What is described here is just RAM being used, which as already covered by everyone else, is a good thing
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As posted, let Android manage the RAM. It has become quite the mature operating system over the past few years. It will know when to remove an app from RAM when it needs to free some up.
As a general point of why you basically want less free RAM: RAM uses the same amount of power whether you have 2gb free or 1 byte free. The entire stick is powered on. When you cold-boot an app, it spins up the CPU to do what it needs to do to load it into memory (compile it in the case of a JIT compiler, etc). After you do what you want to do in that app, it's fine to keep in RAM. Again, that RAM is going to either be useful, or sit there empty, doing nothing. The advantage happens when/if you want to access that app in the future. If you offloaded it, the CPU has to spin up again (which uses power) and load it into memory. If it's still in memory, it just looks at the pointers in memory and addresses it. And this is where Android has matured and knows how to handle itself: when you leave all your apps open, open another one, and reach your RAM limit, Android knows which app to offload. I don't know the exact formula, but I'm betting time last accessed is a huge (heck, it could be the only; I simply don't know) factor.
And as @rootSU mentioned, this is all assuming normal behavior. If you do actually have a memory leak, that is bad, but you are describing normal RAM usage.

Xperia Z5 Compact high RAM usage / slow

Hi
My Xperia Z5 compact has always been a bit of a disappointment re speed; really no improvement over the z2, in fact picture and camera loading is painfully slow.
There's a number of threads around commenting on the same issues so I've just lived with it.
Now I've just upgraded to Marshmallow, the new memory manager shows a whopping 1.7gb usage (total 1.8gb, a measly 41mb free!!!) and drilling down, Android OS is using 900mb.
The next biggest is android system and google play services at around 110 mb each and everything else is below 100mb.
I'm astonished Android OS is taking over half my ram just to run, and this is when I'm not doing anything major on my phone... Just a few SMS, bit of browsing and a lot of not being used time.
This, combined with the generally slow speed leads me to question is this normal?
What's the expected ram usage on this device?
Anything I can look at to reduce the OS ram? Ideally I'd look at a non stock rom to remove bloatware but as far as I know this phone isn't rootable yet? Or can I still get a more efficient rom on board?
Many thanks
Rob

Android ram management is different than Windows os,they say in Android that free ram is wasted ram,in other meaning android will free up ram when needed so you will always see high ram usage.

Is the compact not 3GB ram? Mine looks like this -
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The Z5 Compact is 2GB RAM (http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5-compact/specifications/)
Looks like the Z5 (non compact) is 3GB.

You guys are aware, that you can smash down the ram usage of your phones right??
I made my device - Z5 (non compact version) - go from using a whopping 2.7GB of the 3GB of RAM to only about 1.4-1.7GB RAM usage

How and does it improve performance?

rjbathgate said:
How and does it improve performance?
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Of course.
How, you ask?
Answer)
Disable, clean app cache and app data and force stop ALL bloatware apps..
Does it improve performance?
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Indeed, and battery life.

TheTecXpert said:
Of course.
How, you ask?
Answer)
Disable, clean app cache and app data and force stop ALL bloatware apps..
Does it improve performance?
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Indeed, and battery life.
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Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.

Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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well, what is normal ?
if you have several apps with wakelocks or background tasks - it surely DOES help

Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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Its probably the amount of bloatware installed in his phone, things like facebook and other wakelocks really hog the phone battery, theres a good guide here on the forums on how to preserve battery life all without losing performance.
Here you go

Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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In sleep mode you will notice the difference.. But in general it does improve battery life by a bit.. Maybe for everybody else its different..
Just remember all the pre installed bloatware on the phone hog the ram and run in the background..
Especially the weather app/widget.. Thats a battery killer

zacharias.maladroit said:
well, what is normal ?
if you have several apps with wakelocks or background tasks - it surely DOES help
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By normal, I mean force closing apps to save RAM. Normally they are just idling and using a little bit of RAM - doesn't hurt the battery. If the app is using the CPU a lot then there's probably a problem in the app and you should close it. Android has a pretty good RAM management system.
Getting rid of bloatware like Facebook ect is a good idea and will help your battery

Hey
Thanks all. I'm keen to remove bloatware, but unless I'm mistaken I need root for that... And as far as I can see there is no solid solution to root for the z5 compact, is there?
Happy to be corrected!!
I'm used to cyanogenmod on my previous phones but so far I've seen no real options on this phone so currently still on stock.
Thanks

rjbathgate said:
Hey
Thanks all. I'm keen to remove bloatware, but unless I'm mistaken I need root for that... And as far as I can see there is no solid solution to root for the z5 compact, is there?
Happy to be corrected!!
I'm used to cyanogenmod on my previous phones but so far I've seen no real options on this phone so currently still on stock.
Thanks
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Just disable the apps you don't use. That way they can't run for no reason using ram and system ota updates will still work fine
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