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How much free RAM do you have advailable?

I've been looking at how much free ram is available at any given time in my Bolt. With a stock debloated ROM I had about 325MB at start up and as I used the phone it went to ~230mB.
Now I'm running debloated Das BAMFv1.4 and have ~310MB free at boot and ~195 as the phone is use throughout the day.
These number slightly irritate me since my old INC has about 210MB at boot and 170MB as the day went on.
The Bolt has and extra 256MB so I'm thinking that it should reflect this in the free RAM. (I know that the bolt is running more process so call it and extra 170MB it should have)
Why is the Bolt so RAM hungry?
I'm using system panel (free edition works) to see how much free ram I have.

about ~360 on boot and ~250 on average during useage

I believe what you are seeing on the TB is some of that memory is reserved specifically for the GPU while on the incredible may not reflect it or uses less for the GPU.
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Isn't "free ram" wasted ram in Android (and Linux in general)? People obsess over these things for no reason.
Does your phone perform okay? Is it sluggish or snappy? Do the apps you want to use open up fast enough for you? If it's snappy, then what are you worried about free ram for? It's a meaningless geek number unless you're diagnosing some performance issue.
If you really just really have to have more free ram, then get one of those apps like AutoKiller or Min Free Manager and tweak your memory manager settings. Neither of these are "task killers" per se, both are just apps that change the parameters for Android's built-in memory manager.

distortedloop said:
Isn't "free ram" wasted ram in Android (and Linux in general)? People obsess over these things for no reason.
Does your phone perform okay? Is it sluggish or snappy? Do the apps you want to use open up fast enough for you? If it's snappy, then what are you worried about free ram for? It's a meaningless geek number unless you're diagnosing some performance issue.
If you really just really have to have more free ram, then get one of those apps like AutoKiller or Min Free Manager and tweak your memory manager settings. Neither of these are "task killers" per se, both are just apps that change the parameters for Android's built-in memory manager.
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Glad somebody gets it. Free RAM is wasted RAM. Thus why you have things like Superfetch in Windows now which caches all your programs.
My only concern with free RAM is what is taking up that space. Thus why you use a debloated ROM. That way only legitimate programs are taking up space.

I usually sit around 130-150. On my Eris I would be happy if I had 35-40
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Start up is around 420mb with Virus ROM (Senseless) and as the day goes on it gets to around 300mb.

About a ram booster advice

High ram is draining battery quickly thats why i always have to use the task manager which is coming with android . However i want to more succesfull apk which is also make it automatically . More important thing is my ram is about 550 mb always . If i open new apps it raises to between 800-1000mb . When i clean it from task manager it drops about 670 mb not to 550 mb which is also only seen after reboot.How about your ram datas ?
Thanks.
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I let Android manage the ram as it is supposed to do and don't bother about ram usage .
See ten million Ram posts on XDA .
jje

yararli said:
High ram is draining battery quickly thats why i always have to use the task manager which is coming with android . However i want to more succesfull apk which is also make it automatically . More important thing is my ram is about 550 mb always . If i open new apps it raises to between 800-1000mb . When i clean it from task manager it drops about 670 mb not to 550 mb which is also only seen after reboot.How about your ram datas ?
Thanks.
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Ram runs at about 1v on the note. Nowhere near enough to kill a battery. I would suggest it's your aggressive use of an unneeded task manager that is killing your battery.
Also please educate yourself on how android utilizes ram, as you are going out of your way to cause issues for androids built in resource management system. 1.4GB of free ram is a total waste.
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Sorry but i dont use any another application about task manager i only boost ram by using the task manager on android installed in.And i insist on it is draining battery if ram is working above 0.98 gb .There is a big difference working on 600 mb and 0.98 gb working ram.Please educate me then.
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Stock Android Ram reply .
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
jje

yararli said:
Sorry but i dont use any another application about task manager i only boost ram by using the task manager on android installed in.And i insist on it is draining battery if ram is working above 0.98 gb .There is a big difference working on 600 mb and 0.98 gb working ram.Please educate me then.
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the reason it isn't draining as fast when you have all that free memory is because you've killed the app that is draining your battery. you need to isolate the application and possibly remove it.

AndroHero said:
Ram runs at about 1v on the note. Nowhere near enough to kill a battery. I would suggest it's your aggressive use of an unneeded task manager that is killing your battery.
Also please educate yourself on how android utilizes ram, as you are going out of your way to cause issues for androids built in resource management system. 1.4GB of free ram is a total waste.
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This ^
I have had to answer this and similar questions a million times... DO NOT USE TASK KILLERS!! THEY KILL APPS THAT WILL JUST RESPAWN ANYWAY! the apps you close will just reopen and ramp up the CPU clock causing battery drain. Android isn't like windows, apps in ram are put into hibernation when nor in use and the ram barely uses any power anyway. A rogue app is causing your system to not go into idle mode more than likely and so the CPU isn't sleeping. Also what is you're average battery life? Screen uses a ton of battery also.
Edit: ps , android holds the last used apps in ram in hibernation so that when you need to reopen it it takes less CPU and less power top open it. When it needs ram for a task it will kill off the app that's been hibernating the longest to free up what Oort needs on it's own, you don't have to do it foot the system the system had it handled. You will only cause issues using task killers. The cyanogen team had covered this before
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When a segment of RAM is not in use, it does not power down, nor does it use any less energy at all. Whether you are utilising 10% or 100% of physical RAM, the power draw is identical.
If battery use improves after you kill an app, it is probably because of the CPU that the app used. It is certainly not because of the memory.
In your "Battery" settings in your device you can see how much energy each app has used since you went to battery power. There you can see if an app has been "keeping awake" the CPU, or using a lot of the CPU's time.
Then, report and/or uninstall that app.
Don't use task managers to free up memory, Android is much better at handling memory itself. Freeing up memory using a task manager simply means the next time you need to use an app you'll have to load it again from flash storage which may even take up more energy - but not enough to make a difference. Mostly it'll just slow down app launches.

Leaky Ram

Hey Guys,
I am relatively new to the world of Android being an IOS man until I took the plunge and got this cracking little Nexus.
One thing I have come across is how I seem to be losing RAM over about a period of an hour or so. On a restart my RAM reads about 1.3gb free. After some time it goes to 900mb free. I have APPs like Advanced Task Manager freeing up RAM every hour but thought that someone may have come up with a software tweak or solution that may stem the flow.
I am running a rooted with standard ROM and ElementalX Kernel.
Cheers
Jason

jasonst165 said:
Hey Guys,
I am relatively new to the world of Android being an IOS man until I took the plunge and got this cracking little Nexus.
One thing I have come across is how I seem to be losing RAM over about a period of an hour or so. On a restart my RAM reads about 1.3gb free. After some time it goes to 900mb free. I have APPs like Advanced Task Manager freeing up RAM every hour but thought that someone may have come up with a software tweak or solution that may stem the flow.
I am running a rooted with standard ROM and ElementalX Kernel.
Cheers
Jason
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using apps that use ram to then try free it up try remove these type of apps and check after a few hours

jasonst165 said:
Hey Guys,
I am relatively new to the world of Android being an IOS man until I took the plunge and got this cracking little Nexus.
One thing I have come across is how I seem to be losing RAM over about a period of an hour or so. On a restart my RAM reads about 1.3gb free. After some time it goes to 900mb free. I have APPs like Advanced Task Manager freeing up RAM every hour but thought that someone may have come up with a software tweak or solution that may stem the flow.
I am running a rooted with standard ROM and ElementalX Kernel.
Cheers
Jason
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Thats not a issue , not in android the less free ram you have the better.. if you search google you'll know and also dont use any app killer.

There's really no need to use apps to free up ram. We got 2gb of ram
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Free ram is wasted ram, don't use any stupid task killers and forget about it
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So remove those APPs and it runs better with less RAM.
The revers of what Im used to :silly:

jasonst165 said:
So remove those APPs and it runs better with less RAM.
The revers of what Im used to :silly:
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You could check RAM usage on iOS? (Genuine question, not a poke at Apple )

Always let android handle itself. I have used android since the HTC G1 and android keeps getting better and better managing itself. Don't use apps that help with the android system. They make it harder for the managing to do what it has to do. Let android do it.
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A memory leak is when a single app (or multiple apps) leak into memory. This would mean if you look in RAM, app1 is using 10MB. Then an hour later app1 is using 40MB, then an hour later, app1 is using 100MB. Its only a leak if the particular app is grabbing more memory and never releasing it.
What is described here is just RAM being used, which as already covered by everyone else, is a good thing
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As posted, let Android manage the RAM. It has become quite the mature operating system over the past few years. It will know when to remove an app from RAM when it needs to free some up.
As a general point of why you basically want less free RAM: RAM uses the same amount of power whether you have 2gb free or 1 byte free. The entire stick is powered on. When you cold-boot an app, it spins up the CPU to do what it needs to do to load it into memory (compile it in the case of a JIT compiler, etc). After you do what you want to do in that app, it's fine to keep in RAM. Again, that RAM is going to either be useful, or sit there empty, doing nothing. The advantage happens when/if you want to access that app in the future. If you offloaded it, the CPU has to spin up again (which uses power) and load it into memory. If it's still in memory, it just looks at the pointers in memory and addresses it. And this is where Android has matured and knows how to handle itself: when you leave all your apps open, open another one, and reach your RAM limit, Android knows which app to offload. I don't know the exact formula, but I'm betting time last accessed is a huge (heck, it could be the only; I simply don't know) factor.
And as @rootSU mentioned, this is all assuming normal behavior. If you do actually have a memory leak, that is bad, but you are describing normal RAM usage.

[Q] Ram usage.

I am currently running stock with franco kernel 32...
i always see that my ram consumption is always very high about 1 gb...
i have auto sync off and by using gravity box module i often clear all the apps but still i get this high ram usage.. the apps i use are mostly paid version and dont have adds. I use greenify as well but still usage is high..
in my cached processes google search and aosp keyboard consume around 100 mb of memory
will this affect my battery life.?
pls can someone help?

Don't worry. Android uses as much ram as it can. Unless you're seeing performance issues if just leave it alone.

Hi,
Nothing abnormal to have about 1Gb used (there was a thing about RAM usage in the last version if I remember right, but not with R32 so...).
Maybe not necessary to clear often the recent apps (nor useful).
Nothing to worry about your battery life.
You apps stays in memory for faster use, let Android manage its ram, with 2Gb (a bit less for user/app) it's enough...

Ram is supposed to be used. The old adage "free ram is useless ram" applies here.
The ram device itself will use power as all components will however, it is "always on" it doesn't matter if its 1MB or 1GB.... it's same power regardless.
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@JJD1639 thanks for the assurance man.. i thought it may cause battery drain.:good:
@viking37 thanks,so u mean its better to leave them as they are. no need of hibernating them?
@rootSU thanks u! ya i had heard that in linux as opposed to conventional windows belief its rather that free ram is wasted ram.. so even if i start a game a high requirement one the OS will do the job itself?

Yeo
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Sonone said:
@viking37 thanks,so u mean its better to leave them as they are. no need of hibernating them?
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No, what I mean is let your apps currently running like they are, in the recent apps. If a day you are really very low in memory for whatever reason (like 200-300Mb free for example) and you experience lags, reboot ant it's fine. But Android will do the necessary before (unless a "huge memory leak" like we have seen or some wrong memory management settings caused by a "RAM manager app" or some "magic RAM script").
My opinion was not about Greenify in particular, I have no opinion about it... If you need or want to hibernate them, do it, for the other apps, leave them running
Not sure if I explain myself well
If you want post some screenshots of your apps running and cache process to see, but with what you said it seems that there is nothing wrong...

viking37 said:
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No, what I mean is let your apps currently running like they are, in the recent apps. If a day you are really very low in memory for whatever reason (like 200-300Mb free for example) and you experience lags, reboot ant it's fine. But Android will do the necessary before (unless a "huge memory leak" like we have seen or some wrong memory management settings caused by a "RAM manager app" or some "magic RAM script").
My opinion was not about Greenify in particular, I have no opinion about it... If you need or want to hibernate them, do it, for the other apps, leave them running
Not sure if I explain myself well
If you want post some screenshots of your apps running and cache process to see, but with what you said it seems that there is nothing wrong...
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ya there is nothing wrong... its just that I am probably being a bit too curious for no reason...
i shall leave it to the OS memory management..I just checked there's no rogue app consuming memory.. the ones which are running seem quite justified!:good:
and please dude,i got you (explained well)and i really appreciate the support and help from all of you.. i post a thing and within a minute there are people to help..:highfive::angel:

Sonone said:
and please dude,i got you (explained well)and i really appreciate the support and help from all of you.. i post a thing and within a minute there are people to help..:highfive::angel:
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Yes, all seems good :good:
Curiosity is good and you're welcome

Sonone said:
@JJD1639 thanks for the assurance man.. i thought it may cause battery drain.:good:
@viking37 thanks,so u mean its better to leave them as they are. no need of hibernating them?
@rootSU thanks u! ya i had heard that in linux as opposed to conventional windows belief its rather that free ram is wasted ram.. so even if i start a game a high requirement one the OS will do the job itself?
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ps. this applies to pretty much all desktop OS's as well as mobile in the past 10 years or so.. linux, windows, osx etc.. 90% ram usage or more should be normal unless you have an insane amount of ram in the system.

nexusprouser said:
my ram booster keeps clearing my ram because it uses up to 1.6
any process I can shut down from default to stop it from clearing?
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Get rid of ram booster. You don't need it and it's causing more problems than it's fixing.

If I notice my device slow down, I click the button to switch apps and swipe them all closed.
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I should say, I don't need to worry about it on this phone.
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Sonone said:
I am currently running stock with franco kernel 32...
i always see that my ram consumption is always very high about 1 gb...
i have auto sync off and by using gravity box module i often clear all the apps but still i get this high ram usage.. the apps i use are mostly paid version and dont have adds. I use greenify as well but still usage is high..
in my cached processes google search and aosp keyboard consume around 100 mb of memory
will this affect my battery life.?
pls can someone help?
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Try this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327541
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Ashcunak said:
ps. this applies to pretty much all desktop OS's as well as mobile in the past 10 years or so.. linux, windows, osx etc.. 90% ram usage or more should be normal unless you have an insane amount of ram in the system.
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memory management has not been a quite favourite subject of mine

Sonone said:
memory management has not been a quite favourite subject of mine
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Even on high end devices like nexus???
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Mr hOaX said:
Even on high end devices like nexus???
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i meant academically!

Sonone said:
i meant academically!
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Okay cool
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About RAM management and the SD card usage

Hello guys!
First of all, my english isn't that good, so I will try to do my best!
So, I have two questions (and sorry if this is the wrong place):
1-) About RAM management: Where can I check what's running in the background (and using my RAM)? And how can I "kill" all these applications rapidly?
2-) I noticed that my SD card can be used as an "extension" of my internal storage. So, im using a Sandisk Class 10 card, but, when I picked the option where it uses my SD card as "extension", it said that my card seems to be slow, and I may improve it. Then, I ask you:
2.1-) Why am I receiving this message?
2.2-) Using this option, may I suffer more "lags" and framerate slowdowns (while playing) than if I picked the another option?
That's it.
Thank you guys!

1) you don't, and can't in the stock ROM... You shouldn't ever manually kill tasks. This hasn't been an acceptable thing since Gingerbread or maybe early Jellybean. This will literally slow down your device, the Android (Linux) kernel handles this job, free RAM is wasted RAM, this isn't Windows. You can see average RAM usage in Settings, Memory, but you can't close anything here
2) to my knowledge everyone gets this message regardless of its speed, it's kind of a "bug" I guess. The second part of your question is tougher to answer because people's experience vary widely with no consist variable like card speed, RAM, or variant. Best I can say is try it and see.
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acejavelin said:
1) you don't, and can't in the stock ROM... You shouldn't ever manually kill tasks. This hasn't been an acceptable thing since Gingerbread or maybe early Jellybean. This will literally slow down your device, the Android (Linux) kernel handles this job, free RAM is wasted RAM, this isn't Windows. You can see average RAM usage in Settings, Memory, but you can't close anything here
2) to my knowledge everyone gets this message regardless of its speed, it's kind of a "bug" I guess. The second part of your question is tougher to answer because people's experience vary widely with no consist variable like card speed, RAM, or variant. Best I can say is try it and see.
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ok! Thank you for the answer!
But, i.e. if a game (or an application) need more RAM to run smootlhy (just an example), how will the system manage the memory?

Hugo_Xnaider said:
ok! Thank you for the answer!
But, i.e. if a game (or an application) need more RAM to run smootlhy (just an example), how will the system manage the memory?
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Android will automatically remove stale or older tasks as an application needs resources.
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Android will automatically remove stale or older tasks as an application needs resources.
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Thanks!
But how the multi-task function works then?
Only the active task will use CPU&RAM?

HugoXnaider said:
Thanks!
But how the multi-task function works then?
Only the active task will use CPU&RAM?
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Google is your friend here, but I think this article will give you the answers your looking for, even though it's focus is on something else, it explains ram management quite well...
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
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Hugo_Xnaider said:
Hello guys!
1-) About RAM management: Where can I check what's running in the background (and using my RAM)? And how can I "kill" all these applications rapidly?
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Have you tried ES Task Manager?

While I read these articles, just another question:
By clicking on the recents apps button (square) and dashing them to the left or right, am I killing them?
Thanks

HugoXnaider said:
While I read these articles, just another question:
By clicking on the recents apps button (square) and dashing them to the left or right, am I killing them?
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Yes, but unless you have a very good reason to, don't.
I have one app I do this with, Pokémon Shuffle, because if I just home out instead of back out and close, it keeps my phone awake and it won't go into deep sleep.
Kernel RAM management since KitKat is very good most of the time, unless you have a very good reason just let the kernel do it's job.
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Running services is in developer options now if you really have to kill a pesky app

I generally kill apps like games, chrome, whats app, in the recent apps tab.

HugoXnaider said:
I generally kill apps like games, chrome, whats app, in the recent apps tab.
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Killing Chrome and Whatsapp will only slow down opening them later... There is no other gain, same with games unless leaving them in the background prevents the device from sleeping. The kernel will kill the tasks when needed.
This isn't opinion, it's verifiable fact. Killing tasks manually has a negative effect on performance and battery life 99% of the time in modern Android devices.
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acejavelin said:
Killing Chrome and Whatsapp will only slow down opening them later... There is no other gain, same with games unless leaving them in the background prevents the device from sleeping. The kernel will kill the tasks when needed.
This isn't opinion, it's verifiable fact. Killing tasks manually has a negative effect on performance and battery life 99% of the time in modern Android devices.
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So, these apps wont "consume" CPU & RAM while background? I will never fell any performance issue (gaming) due to background applications running?

Hugo_Xnaider said:
So, these apps wont "consume" CPU & RAM while background? I will never fell any performance issue (gaming) due to background applications running?
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Correct, you should not... RAM is treated differently in Android (Linux) than Windows.
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acejavelin said:
Correct, you should not... RAM is treated differently in Android (Linux) than Windows.
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Ok, brother!
Thank you for your help! I appreciate it!
Since my questions about RAM are gone, i will test the performance using the games stocked in the SD card.
EDIT: Definitively, no difference between stock the game in internal, or SD. At least talking about framerate.