[Q] android beam and nfc? and a sidenote question - Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE

im new to the photon q and im trying to figure out the beam feature. Ive been googling to try and find it out but I cant get any info on the photon specifically. i tried to beam a picture to my sisters s3 and it opened up the the play store and said search not found or something similar. when she sent one to me it would send me to the same place or it would say that my device cant receive large format files or something like that.
it sent webpages just fine but wouldnt do pics. is this because they are on a newer version of android?
as a side note question is this phone a legit contender in the smart phone world? I bought it from best buy to give it a try because they let you try it for 30 days and if you dont you can exchange it for somethign else. Is it in league with the s3? is it crap? I like the keyboard a lot and hate to not have one but I need to upgrade because my beloved epic is dying. what are your opinions on the phone? versus the s3? some other valid contender?
thanks all

I like it, but I'm a whore for a keyboard.
AFAIK the NFC chip in this thing is completely useless. Doesn't work with Google Wallet, and I seriously doubt if it'll work with the S3. I'm betting Sammy's NFC sharing only works with other Sammy devices....

that kinda sucks. its far from a necessity to have it but it would have been cool. is it a hardware thing or software do u know?

I talked to someone at sprint about the NFC once b/c I was tryna do the same with a s3. They basically told me that its not compatible b/t ics and jb b/c of the way the data is compiled, sent and received or something like that. It's been so long since I was told about it. Ics to ics yes that is supposed to work but not ics to jb.
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dwaynet89 said:
I talked to someone at sprint about the NFC once b/c I was tryna do the same with a s3. They basically told me that its not compatible b/t ics and jb b/c of the way the data is compiled, sent and received or something like that. It's been so long since I was told about it. Ics to ics yes that is supposed to work but not ics to jb.
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Uhm... That's not true at all. When the S3 was on ICS, it didn't work. Whenever we get JB, it still won't work with the S3. Again, AFAIK the Samsung beam is proprietary to Samsung.
At any rate, I am hoping it's just a software issue. We have the NFC chip, and I don't believe the chip itself is crippled... but I am just speculating at this point. I do not know for a fact, just wishful thinking! :good:

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Uhm... That's not true at all. When the S3 was on ICS, it didn't work. Whenever we get JB, it still won't work with the S3. Again, AFAIK the Samsung beam is proprietary to Samsung.
At any rate, I am hoping it's just a software issue. We have the NFC chip, and I don't believe the chip itself is crippled... but I am just speculating at this point. I do not know for a fact, just wishful thinking! :good:
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It must be a Samsung thing because I had the same problem with my friends S3 to my photon but my nexus 7's NFC works fine with the photon q
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It must be a Samsung thing because I had the same problem with my friends S3 to my photon but my nexus 7's NFC works fine with the photon q
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Even to send pictures?

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It must be a Samsung thing because I had the same problem with my friends S3 to my photon but my nexus 7's NFC works fine with the photon q
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Hey, the N7's NFC worked with the Photon Q...? That's impressive! So it seems we have a regular NFC chip, perhaps it's just Google Wallet that doesn't work... Wonder why?

Google wallet is typically blocked as per the carrier because they have or are about to have their own NFC payment method (like Verizon and Isis).
Also, the GS3 uses its own funky thing for NFC. The Q's NFC works the same as any other device, so things like Android Beam work. GS3 uses S Beam or whatever they call it, which only works between GS3 devices.
To answer OP's additional question, yes, this phone is up there on the top of the "powerful smartphones" list. The screen has a lower dpi than most, but it makes up for it with the processor. The only faster chips on the market are the S4 Pro (in the DNA and Nexus 4) Exynos 5 (Nexus 10).
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I talked to someone at sprint about the NFC once b/c I was tryna do the same with a s3. They basically told me that its not compatible b/t ics and jb b/c of the way the data is compiled, sent and received or something like that. It's been so long since I was told about it. Ics to ics yes that is supposed to work but not ics to jb.
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That sounds kinda sorta along the right idea. From what I've read jelly bean enhances NFC for larger file transfers by automagically initiating a Bluetooth connection between the devices to send data like pictures.
Here's the fist link I found that briefly mentions it too.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-details-jelly-bean-nfc-features-android-beam-upgrade-ta/
So yes, in essence NFC is useless for us with ICS, you could send contact info (like palm pilots used to do with IR), web links, and other very basic textual information and that's it for now, the larger things should be doable once we get jelly bean hopefully at some point in the first half of this year.

Samsung's S Beam uses wifi direct to make a connection as opposed to the bluetooth connection made with Android Beam.
Wifi Direct can send a hell of a lot more data at a faster rate than bluetooth. U can download the app "wifi direct" from the app store and send photos, movies, etc.

i sent a website to my friends tmobile galaxy s3 with NFC enabled on both devices just by touching the backs. it DOES work on this phone

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Samsung Jasper

Has anyone seen the new phone for Verizon? The Samsung Jasper, it looks a lot like the Charge. I haven't been able to find any specs on it but it's a low cost LTE phone with a dual core snapdragon. But, because of the shape I was wondering if it would carry the same LTE chip and possibly provide a RIL for us. Does anyone have any info on the hardware inside?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/20/samsung-jasper-for-verizon-leaks-on-twitter/
Link to article on engadget.
Just looked it up looks eerily similar hopefully this is the case and it provides an RIL.
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Samsung will never release the RIL. No new phone will help us besides the fact other developers might try to reverse engineer it. It is too proprietary and bits and pieces of the code are probably still in use by other phones, including new phones. I doubt the Jasper will get as much attention. It's community will probably be like the charge. PS the screen resolution is horrendous by today's standard.
Just face it...we're never getting ICS.
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who wants ics now that JB is out?
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who wants ics now that JB is out?
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We can't get JB, even AOSP is too big for our /system
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We can't get JB, even AOSP is too big for our /system
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yes yes we discussed this elsewhere. But just saying getting ics would be nice, but wouldn't fill the need for a better os seeing how there is something better than ics
Just get a nexus 7 and call it a day. I'm personally done spending $500 on phones just to be on the bleeding edge. The charge
when massaged and tweaked is perfectly adequate as a phone and the N7 will be better at everything else except for maybe audio out (but chances are your next phone would be worse here too). The best of both worlds, at a fraction of the cost.
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Just get a nexus 7 and call it a day. I'm personally done spending $500 on phones just to be on the bleeding edge. The charge
when massaged and tweaked is perfectly adequate as a phone and the N7 will be better at everything else except for maybe audio out (but chances are your next phone would be worse here too). The best of both worlds, at a fraction of the cost.
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Or you can luck out and find a friend or relative that wants to start a Verizon service but doesn't want to pay anything. Just pay the 2xxx$ for them to start off on the galaxy s3 then have them swap you out with the Charge. So now you have cutting edge phone with lot's of development support.
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Or you can luck out and find a friend or relative that wants to start a Verizon service but doesn't want to pay anything. Just pay the 2xxx$ for them to start off on the galaxy s3 then have them swap you out with the Charge. So now you have cutting edge phone with lot's of development support.
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The improbability of that scenario notwithstanding, I'd still take the N7 for the money and keep the charge. But whatever floats one's boat I suppose.
yea my charge provides internet for my N7. Charge is about to die as it is
Galaxy Stellar
So now the Jasper is officialy know as the Samsung Galaxy Stellar. Does anyone have anymore information on this phone. It's supposed to come with ICS out of the box. This phone still looks like an updated Charge and I'm hoping provides something on the RIL. Does anyone know where to get specs at the chipset level on this phone? Tahnks.

Switching to Verizon from Tmobile.

I'm switching to Verizon from Tmobile, I can't make up my mind on the GS3 or GN. I get a good deal threw my company and I can get either phone for $ 49.99. I want the Nexus because it has the best development and gets all the latest updates, and want the GS3 because of the amazing hardware and features...
What's should do?
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Spec wise the S3 is better, Development wise the Nexus is better but the new Nexus is coming out this year. So, it's all up to you in you want an older phone with little bit worse specs than a newer phone with better specs unless you want to wait for the new Nexus.
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Spec wise the S3 is better, Development wise the Nexus is better but the new Nexus is coming out this year. So, it's all up to you in you want an older phone with little bit worse specs than a newer phone with better specs unless you want to wait for the new Nexus.
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What does the new Nexus come out?
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What does the new Nexus come out?
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Nobody knows except for Samsung and Google. Samsung is announcing the Note 2 on August 15th so they could possibly incorporate the new Nexus but nobody knows really.
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Nobody knows except for Samsung and Google. Samsung is announcing the Note 2 on August 15th so they could possibly incorporate the new Nexus but nobody knows really.
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Well, unfortunately i can't wait that long. I need to make up my mind by Friday. I guess I'm going to go with the galaxy s3. Thanks.
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Hoezack said:
Well, unfortunately i can't wait that long. I need to make up my mind by Friday. I guess I'm going to go with the galaxy s3.
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You definitely made the right choice.
We have both phones on our VZ corporate account. The GN has a few more ROMs available, but other than that the G3 is light years ahead of the obsolete GN.
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You definitely made the right choice.
We have both phones on our VZ corporate account. The GN has a few more ROMs available, but other than that the G3 is light years ahead of the obsolete GN.
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Plus the GN has almost a year of development time, it hasn't been a month yet for the GS3. Give it some time there will be some killer stuff on this phone.
Btw.. The roms and themes already available for the GS3 are fantastic, battery life is great and it will only get better. Go for the better hardware, roms will come!
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I would honestly be surprised if the next Nexus phone is available on Verizon.
The GNEX was problematic because of the CDMA radio. The whole 'not a real nexus' and all. I think google has shown us how they want to start selling Nexus devices, and it doesn't appear to involve a carrier.
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I would honestly be surprised if the next Nexus phone is available on Verizon.
The GNEX was problematic because of the CDMA radio. The whole 'not a real nexus' and all. I think google has shown us how they want to start selling Nexus devices, and it doesn't appear to involve a carrier.
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If they do this, there's no way in hell verizon would approve having a device that goes over their jurisdiction be allowed on their network. The only way you can get a device on Verizon is through them.
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If they do this, there's no way in hell verizon would approve having a device that goes over their jurisdiction be allowed on their network. The only way you can get a device on Verizon is through them.
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Well, what about the GS3 Developer edition?
I don't think you'll regret having the S3! It's been a great phone, and even though it's "locked" - there are/will be plenty of custom ROM's, hacks, and themes you can put into it!
I like the concept of the Galaxy Nexus but the screen is not as great as the S3, and even though it's only a 4.3 inch device, while the S3 is 4.8 - the S3 is the same size as the nexus and even a little thinner!!! Definitely nicer in my opinion!

Android 4.2 and 5.0 touch wiz

And the rant begins...
Felt like venting to my fellow XDA members at how utterly ridiculous these lags in updates are.
How on earth does Google release android 4.2 Jelly Bean back in October 2012, and only TWO phones are currently running it?
Is Google being held hostage by each carrier so much to the point of a simple .1 update? What will it take for this nonsense to finally come to an end!?
Not to mention Verizon leaks 4.1.2 out this week and they removed premium suite....what exactly did this update offer?
I cant see a successful future for any of these companies or Google if this cancerous relationship between the OS and Carrier continues much longer.
And supposedly 5.0 key lime pie is coming in May?
What phones will be running 5.0 out of the gates if any? My guess is Galaxy S4 will drop with 4.2 or possibly even 4.1.2
Any thoughts?
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Dude, the tbolt just got ics. We get it when we get it. And I assume it's mostly Verizon's fault.
Hope that didn't come off jerky.
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They do this so you buy the new phones..
like HTC, just released the DNA.. was the flagship for like what a month, now the HTC M7 is the new hot thing and it's what the same exact phone but 4.7' rather than 5'. but it comes with sense 5.0..
thank god for root, other wise we'd be screwed,
yes officially the tbolt just got ICS but theyve been running that stable for some time now.
it's unfortunate, but at least we do have root, and phones like the HTC DNA that get screwed like that will be able to port the M7 sense 5.0 ROM to the DNA.
it is what it is and sucks lol, and I agree with above, it's mostly Verizon
andybones said:
They do this so you buy the new phones..
like HTC, just released the DNA.. was the flagship for like what a month, now the HTC M7 is the new hot thing and it's what the same exact phone but 4.7' rather than 5'. but it comes with sense 5.0..
thank god for root, other wise we'd be screwed,
yes officially the tbolt just got ICS but theyve been running that stable for some time now.
it's unfortunate, but at least we do have root, and phones like the HTC DNA that get screwed like that will be able to port the M7 sense 5.0 ROM to the DNA.
it is what it is and sucks lol, and I agree with above, it's mostly Verizon
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God bless root!
I can't imagine Google is happy that less than 1% of all smart phones world wide are currently running their latest OS.
And I can't agree more.. Verizon is the problem.
I think all signs point to Google getting into the development of hardware... wouldn't it be nice to have a Google android store like Apple has the Apple stores?
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My Xperia play only had a 2.3.4 update for gingerbread while every other Verizon has ics or jb , glad I unlocked and rooted my phone Verizon sux in terms of updates for phones but their coverage is decent
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I Dont get why Google doesn't stand its ground. All phones should be running AOSP. I have actually grown to like touchwiz but if all phones ran AOSP, I bet updates would come quicker. May not be right away for companies like Verizon to add boat, but that's it. There's no standard. While that does add variety and choice, it also adds confusion. People ask me allllll the time about my sgs3, " is that a droid"? So annoying lol
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I Dont get why Google doesn't stand its ground. All phones should be running AOSP. I have actually grown to like touchwiz but if all phones ran AOSP, I bet updates would come quicker. May not be right away for companies like Verizon to add boat, but that's it. There's no standard. While that does add variety and choice, it also adds confusion. People ask me allllll the time about my sgs3, " is that a droid"? So annoying lol
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But then it would just be like a iPhone same thing on different types of phones I personally don't mind all the different types of software which makes phones unique with running android
Btw I hate that too people think Droid and android are two different things. I had an argument with this girl about her wanting a Droid but talking about how android sucks. Lol
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I LOVE touch wiz motion controls and general UI on top of the android OS.
It just kills me that Verizon doesn't at least keep each companies “flagship devices" (ie SGS3) up to date.
It's a big FU to all of us
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Whatever the aosp release is at is basically a beta in everything but name. Its deployed to a small group of rather technical users where issues can be ironed out. Then months later everyone else gets the carrier's and manufacturer's refinements/adulteration of android. And repeat.
If you want to be in he new release club you need a Nexus or phone that's popular but long in the tooth so the hardware is pretty much mastered. If you buy a non nexus phone you sign up knowing full well that you are at the mercy of a 3rd party. This isn't 2010 anymore . the pattern is well established.
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GoonAssJuan said:
But then it would just be like a iPhone same thing on different types of phones I personally don't mind all the different types of software which makes phones unique with running android
Btw I hate that too people think Droid and android are two different things. I had an argument with this girl about her wanting a Droid but talking about how android sucks. Lol
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haha yeah. I had a girl who wanted a sgs3 but hated droids. I was like um...they're both android phones. I was like "droid" is just a advertising name for a lot verizon phones. Droid is just simply advertisement and basically that's it. Somehow that advertising got everyone thinking its apple, microsoft, blackberry, and "droids" lol
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haha yeah. I had a girl who wanted a sgs3 but hated droids. I was like um...they're both android phones. I was like "droid" is just a advertising name for a lot verizon phones. Droid is just simply advertisement and basically that's it. Somehow that advertising got everyone thinking its apple, microsoft, blackberry, and "droids" lol
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Exactly! Lol
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The x phone will be the first with klp. And if moto is allowed to do anything to that phone and put some gay layout on it because its not a nexus device I will not buy it. I'm sick of Verizon and im leaving them on may 15th. The galaxy nexus was the biggest disappointment in my eyes. (Nexus phone that Verizon withheld every update and various awesome accessories)
At least the s3 wasn't promising continuous updates, wireless docks and so on
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Verizon is a member of the Open Handset Alliance. One of the founding members, I believe...
Hard to believe, based on their behavior.
When the Hell will they get it through their heads that they really don't need to be involved with much? I pay Verizon to provide a network (and ONLY a network), not hold my hand. I mean, really? Could a phone really harm their network if it hadn't passed through their approval and bloatware installation processes?
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There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that.
Honestly I kind of doubt we will see any 4.2 action till way after the release of the S4... if at all.
mentose457 said:
There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that.
Honestly I kind of doubt we will see any 4.2 action till way after the release of the S4... if at all.
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Touche.. however I don't believe the Verizon Gnex has been updated yet.. which is RIDICULOUS.
I am almost willing to bet galaxy S4 launches with 4.1.2 premium suite
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There are currently two phones running 4.2, The Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. Just thought id clarify that..
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My phone is running 4.2
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bajasur said:
Touche.. however I don't believe the Verizon Gnex has been updated yet.. which is RIDICULOUS.
I am almost willing to bet galaxy S4 launches with 4.1.2 premium suite
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I'm almost willing to bet it drops with 4.2. I'll give you a breakdown.
Does Google handle the customer service if a Android device has issues? No. Who does? Either the carrier or the manufacturer. That being said, there needs to be documentation of every single little thing done in an update in order for proper support on both ends of distribution. Customer service has to be trained along with tech support and any type of sales person, which takes time and money. On the software side it seems Samsung is pretty solid. We've gone from 4.0.4 to (soon) 4.1.2 with a total of (correct me if I'm wrong) 4 updates and this phone hasn't even been out for a year. When it comes to the "premium suite" did you ever consider the possibility that the test build that we have is simply "bare?". Makes things easier to troubleshoot if you don't pack in every single little feature to begin with.
You have to remember that you don't pay for the updates themselves. Yes, you paid for the phone but when you buy a Windows 8 laptop are you going to get mad because you won't get the next version for free? I don't speak for other manufacturers but have to say Samsung is doing a pretty damn good job with keeping us updated. Sorry, had to rant. Just irritates me.
Oh, and yes, they do it in order to sell more phones. But, can you blame them? Samsung is doing everything they can to stamp Apple out. That means releasing a flagship phone that will be the first of that manufacturer to launch with the newest software version.
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I'm almost willing to bet it drops with 4.2. I'll give you a breakdown.
Does Google handle the customer service if a Android device has issues? No. Who does? Either the carrier or the manufacturer. That being said, there needs to be documentation of every single little thing done in an update in order for proper support on both ends of distribution. Customer service has to be trained along with tech support and any type of sales person, which takes time and money. On the software side it seems Samsung is pretty solid. We've gone from 4.0.4 to (soon) 4.1.2 with a total of (correct me if I'm wrong) 4 updates and this phone hasn't even been out for a year. When it comes to the "premium suite" did you ever consider the possibility that the test build that we have is simply "bare?". Makes things easier to troubleshoot if you don't pack in every single little feature to begin with.
You have to remember that you don't pay for the updates themselves. Yes, you paid for the phone but when you buy a Windows 8 laptop are you going to get mad because you won't get the next version for free? I don't speak for other manufacturers but have to say Samsung is doing a pretty damn good job with keeping us updated. Sorry, had to rant. Just irritates me.
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Don't be sorry. There is some truth in what you have said. Our device has made the jump from ICS to JB which I am very thankful for. Kudos to Samsung there.
My issue is that the S3 and Note 2 are in my opinion the best phones to date... and the carriers are so stupid that they can't communicate with Google and prepare customer service for the release of the new OS on or near its release date... Then Google will announce android 5.0 just as the carriers are getting 4.1.2 or 4.2 .
I understand they want to keep the customers wanting more.... but at some point I feel that Google start developing hardware and move on.
Apparently Samsung has already begun the opposite..
http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-is-working-on-its-own-operating-system
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Don't be sorry. There is some truth in what you have said. Our device has made the jump from ICS to JB which I am very thankful for. Kudos to Samsung there.
My issue is that the S3 and Note 2 are in my opinion the best phones to date... and the carriers are so stupid that they can't communicate with Google and prepare customer service for the release of the new OS on or near its release date... Then Google will announce android 5.0 just as the carriers are getting 4.1.2 or 4.2 .
I understand they want to keep the customers wanting more.... but at some point I feel that Google start developing hardware and move on.
Apparently Samsung has already begun the opposite..
http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-is-working-on-its-own-operating-system
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Haha, yeah. I just didn't want to come across negative. thanks for being understanding. I do understand your frustrations. I don't see 5.0 dropping for awhile. Google said its going to slow down a bit in their releases because Jellybean is beautiful. It brought fluidity to a "fragmented" market and while only two phones officially have 4.2, jellybean is gaining a share of the updates. I think it and ICS almost comprise 50% of the market share for Android versions which is amazing in my opinion.
You know what I'd love? I'd love for the Galaxy S IV to use the new graphine dipped batteries. Can you imagine that with 2gb of RAM and just a revisioned Exynos Quad Core? It could run at a constant 1.0ghz minimum on each core with the screen on so that multitasking would be beautifully smooth and would be easier on battery life since tasks could start and end quickly. But, anyway, If Google is going to go directly into hardware they'd have a good start. I'd love a Nexus phone to rock a MAXX battery and a 1080p AMOLED. If I recall the new AMOLED that will be in the GS4 uses 25% less battery. The combination would be ermahgerd.
Also, didn't Samsung already try another OS? pretty sure Bada didn't do too well lol.
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One can only dream!
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AT&T Tab 4 8.0 Owners

Figured I'd stay a thread for those of us who have an AT&T Tab 4 SM-T337A variant. Anyone weeks have one? What are your thoughts? I'll probably post some in the coming days as I use it more.
I have the T-Mobile version, but it's pretty much the same. I am moving from an AT&T tab 3 7.0 and so far I am not sure if I'm impressed yet. One thing I have noticed is that there is not an ambient light sensor on this model. It's a small quirk, but something I feel should have been added. Overall build quality is ok, and it seems responsive to me, but I think once my case shows up I will be more inclined to use it as I normally do without worrying so much about scuffing it up.
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I have the T-Mobile version, but it's pretty much the same. I am moving from an AT&T tab 3 7.0 and so far I am not sure if I'm impressed yet. One thing I have noticed is that there is not an ambient light sensor on this model. It's a small quirk, but something I feel should have been added. Overall build quality is ok, and it seems responsive to me, but I think once my case shows up I will be more inclined to use it as I normally do without worrying so much about scuffing it up.
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The lack of an ambient light sensor was a real head scratcher for me too, especially because the Galaxy Tab 3 had one. I also noticed that they downgraded the camera. The Tab 3 8.0 had a 5 megapixel autofocus camera while the Tab 4 8.0 has a 3 megapixel fixed focus camera. Further, they seem to have gotten rid of the stereo speakers in favor of one mono speaker on the back. I don't get these decisions at all. I realize that the Tab 4's biggest upgrade over the Tab 3 is the processor, but did adding a quad core processor really make it so they had to skimp on the light sensor, speakers, and camera? If they needed to take something away, I'd have preferred they get rid of the IR blaster or vibrator, personally.
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Actually, I didn't have the vibrate function on the tab 3 and was didsappointed. I was happy to have one on the 4, but I have no idea why I would need it now. I would have rather seen that left out too. I'm really hoping to a root exploit soon so I can tinker with this one at least. I didn't really pay attention to the camera because I really don't use it. I really only use my tab for streaming music and poking around on the interwebs.
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Essentially, what Samsung said to us is "Here is the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It's $30 cheaper than last year's model, with a better processor and a vibrator, but we downgraded the speakers and camera and got rid of auto brightness."
This sounds absurd when you put it that way. I would have preferred "Here's the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It's $30 cheaper than last year's model, with a better processor, but we had to get rid of the IR blaster and continue to leave out a vibrator." To me, that sounds much more reasonable.
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The lack of an ambient light sensor was a real head scratcher for me too, especially because the Galaxy Tab 3 had one. I also noticed that they downgraded the camera. The Tab 3 8.0 had a 5 megapixel autofocus camera while the Tab 4 8.0 has a 3 megapixel fixed focus camera. Further, they seem to have gotten rid of the stereo speakers in favor of one mono speaker on the back. I don't get these decisions at all. I realize that the Tab 4's biggest upgrade over the Tab 3 is the processor, but did adding a quad core processor really make it so they had to skimp on the light sensor, speakers, and camera? If they needed to take something away, I'd have preferred they get rid of the IR blaster or vibrator, personally.
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From what I read, the Tab line has been downgraded to make room for the pro series which had all the bells and whistles. I just picked my 8" model up yesterday. So far it does what I want just a bit laggy at times, hopefully something a recovery and kernel could fix.
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From what I read, the Tab line has been downgraded to make room for the pro series which had all the bells and whistles. I just picked my 8" model up yesterday. So far it does what I want just a bit laggy at times, hopefully something a recovery and kernel could fix.
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Yeah, the AT&T version's stock ROM definitely has some performance issues. Hopefully they'll get rectified with the first system update, whenever that happens.
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Wonder when the 4.4.2 stock firmware is going to be released.....i need security
mrksbrd said:
Wonder when the 4.4.2 stock firmware is going to be released.....i need security
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http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=34969
I *may* have some good news coming. I am working with a couple developers to at least get a custom recovery for the t337a. Hopefully they are successful. Will update when there is an update ?
Repeated from another post.. appropriate here as well
LTE Tab 4 models have Kids Mode removed
I spoke to Samsung Telecommunications US headquarters this week out of frustration of not having the Kids Mode App on our two new AT&T LTE Samsung Tab 4 devices and have confirmed that all LTE models have had the Kids Mode feature removed from their devices. And, the most frustrating thing is actually on Samsung's own website for the individual, specific LTE models which lists the Kids Mode feature as a key selling point. And yes, the first thing people say is: "Have you checked for the latest updates (Android & Samsung.) And, the answer is yes. I have confirmed this removal with Samsung and notified them that this is indeed a huge problem. Maybe not so much for me or for you who may thrive off all things tech, but for the grandparent or parent buying this for their child with the sole purpose of using this key selling feature to help protect their child. Their frustration and discomfort in trying to use what they've been sold and not being able to will only push them away from Samsung or other Android devices. It is a disservice to both the Samsung and Android names as well as to the customer. And it makes us maybe reflect on what we can learn from apple (which pains me to say): when they advertise a feature, it does work on their devices especially on the new ones and even more so on a product listed to have the feature. It's both disappointing and embarrassing to see as both a Samsung and Android supporter.
And one more thing that pains me as an AT&T employee, which I am but not in mobility, that must be said!.. Samsung and AT&T have thought of our kids protection and replaced the Kids Mode with another app. FAMIGO!.. which is a PAID subscription of $4.99 a month to protect your Child!! THINKING of this even more gets me so infuriated!! What an absolute disservice and embarrassment!!
Can anyone get the Kids Mode AK ported from the WiFi version so we can use it on this device?
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I *may* have some good news coming. I am working with a couple developers to at least get a custom recovery for the t337a. Hopefully they are successful. Will update when there is an update
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Wish there was an update by now lol...
Patiently awaiting 5.0 on this pig...
ayekonify said:
Wish there was an update by now lol...
Patiently awaiting 5.0 on this pig...
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I thought all had seen. Sorry. No chance of recovery. Locked bootloader+little developer interest=no safestrap or other custom recovery.
couldn't we use flash fire to get custom roms , it works on the att version of the s5 , I have my tab 4 (8) rooted so I could use flash fire just need something to flash lol I almost tried flashing a rom for another carrier but dont want to brick my tablet.
superp32 said:
couldn't we use flash fire to get custom roms , it works on the att version of the s5 , I have my tab 4 (8) rooted so I could use flash fire just need something to flash lol I almost tried flashing a rom for another carrier but dont want to brick my tablet.
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I am testing FlashFire now for compatibility, so far so good it has no problems updating SuperSU thru flashing a zip file action. unfortunately there is no OEM firmware other than the original NF4 firmware, I will be looking into a build from the NK2 system dump however, system dumps are notoriously buggy.
Please don't ask for ETA's don't PM me with questions, give me a couple weeks to iron out any inconsistencies and we will se what happens.
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I am testing FlashFire now for compatibility, so far so good it has no problems updating SuperSU thru flashing a zip file action. unfortunately there is no OEM firmware other than the original NF4 firmware, I will be looking into a build from the NK2 system dump however, system dumps are notoriously buggy.
Please don't ask for ETA's don't PM me with questions, give me a couple weeks to iron out any inconsistencies and we will se what happens.
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When you use flashfire, do you have a black screen while it is carrying out the options you chose? Mine goes black but after it is complete, reboots normal. Scared the crap out of me the first time I used it. Lol
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When you use flashfire, do you have a black screen while it is carrying out the options you chose? Mine goes black but after it is complete, reboots normal. Scared the crap out of me the first time I used it. Lol
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IKR tht feeling when you think you bricked but actually its just normal haha ;D i still get always scared sh*t out of me because ive had bad luck with odin flashes 4 times... I hate reflashing stock and install all apps and accounts again... almost 10 hours job...
It's nice to find a thread for AT&T Tab 4 8.0 owners. Are all of you on AT&T? I got mine unlocked, and I'm planning to use mine with TMO. It already works for their paid plans, but it can't sign up for their 200mb free plan (apparently because this tablet is not in their eligible database). I'm toying with the idea of flashing a TMO ROM to see if that'll work, but I'm guessing it won't.
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It's nice to find a thread for AT&T Tab 4 8.0 owners. Are all of you on AT&T? I got mine unlocked, and I'm planning to use mine with TMO. It already works for their paid plans, but it can't sign up for their 200mb free plan (apparently because this tablet is not in their eligible database). I'm toying with the idea of flashing a TMO ROM to see if that'll work, but I'm guessing it won't.
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Out of curiosity without safestrap for this device, how do you plan on flashing another ROM to this phone since the bootloader is locked and visa vi no custom recovery?
Voice call
Has anyone figured out how to enable voice calls on the SM-T337A? I've rooted with Towelroot and tried to update the modem.bin file with the one for SM-T337T. No luck. Advance thanks.

[Q] Do you think the Gear 2 will work on Lollipop (Nexus 6)

I am considering purchasing a Nexus 6 when it becomes available on T-mobile but would really hate not being able to pair it with my Gear 2. I really have become addicted to it. I had been originally holding out for the Note Edge to replace my Note 3 but then was able to get one of the Nexus 9 tablets and I think that I am becoming a convert to "pure android"! Any thoughts or speculations would be appreciated. Hard facts would be even better.
still looking?
firstflyer said:
I am considering purchasing a Nexus 6 when it becomes available on T-mobile but would really hate not being able to pair it with my Gear 2. I really have become addicted to it. I had been originally holding out for the Note Edge to replace my Note 3 but then was able to get one of the Nexus 9 tablets and I think that I am becoming a convert to "pure android"! Any thoughts or speculations would be appreciated. Hard facts would be even better.
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I have both devices but have only paired my android wear watches so far with the N6. that being said if you are still looking for an answer let me know and we could do some testing.
Probably not... I don't even think you could get the gear to pair on non tw roms? It took awhile for them to port it to the n2 but that didn't have full compatability. The way I understood it is there more concerned with running it on the Samsung devices so it is left up to the devs and I don't think samsung has quite hit the mark on the smart watch market yet.
firstflyer said:
I am considering purchasing a Nexus 6 when it becomes available on T-mobile but would really hate not being able to pair it with my Gear 2. I really have become addicted to it. I had been originally holding out for the Note Edge to replace my Note 3 but then was able to get one of the Nexus 9 tablets and I think that I am becoming a convert to "pure android"! Any thoughts or speculations would be appreciated. Hard facts would be even better.
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I have done some looking and I'm sure you can get it working at least 90% of all functionality
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Probably not... I don't even think you could get the gear to pair on non tw roms? It took awhile for them to port it to the n2 but that didn't have full compatability. The way I understood it is there more concerned with running it on the Samsung devices so it is left up to the devs and I don't think samsung has quite hit the mark on the smart watch market yet.
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bda714 said:
I have done some looking and I'm sure you can get it working at least 90% of all functionality
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From what? Everything I've seen requires a tw base. I'm interested in this a bit, too since i got a good deal on one but I don't use it
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From what? Everything I've seen requires a tw base. I'm interested in this a bit, too since i got a good deal on one but I don't use it
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I have been using my gear 2 and my gear S for a while now. The nexus 6 is no different. There are a couple ways to go about it without using touch wiz. The gear 2 is actually much better considering that there is already a rooted custom rom out for it, and like i said, with that you will get about 95% functionality. I believe the weather app isnt 100% working and one more thing whixh i cant think of, but all the good stuff works perfect and even a few added features. Making/ recieving calls, ir blaster, watch faces, bluetooth, notifica.... all thats 100%. If you need any help or wan't to try it just pm me. I think this op may have found his answer already though.
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I have been using my gear 2 and my gear S for a while now. The nexus 6 is no different. There are a couple ways to go about it without using touch wiz. The gear 2 is actually much better considering that there is already a rooted custom rom out for it, and like i said, with that you will get about 95% functionality. I believe the weather app isnt 100% working and one more thing whixh i cant think of, but all the good stuff works perfect and even a few added features. Making/ recieving calls, ir blaster, watch faces, bluetooth, notifica.... all thats 100%. If you need any help or wan't to try it just pm me. I think this op may have found his answer already though.
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Hi there. I sent you a PM about a similar request. Can you please check and let me know?
Did you guys actually figure out if it works with nexus 6?
Hi, someone managed to connect the gear 2 with nexus 6? I'm trying but, but I do not get results. If someone have a solution can post a guide?
Would appreciate it too
Please help!!
I have gone through all the methods in trying to connect my gear 2 to my nexus 6 and nothing will work!! Has anyone actually found a way?? I don't mind if some thing don't work, I just like the text and call features anyway.. Please respond to me, I love my watch and don't want to go over to a different one
any updates on this? will the samsung gear 1 OR the gear 2 watch work with the nexus 6 2014 version? thx
I tried following an XDA tread to connect Gear 2 Neo to Moto X 3 XT1575, with watch still on Tizen. No joy.
This method worked easily, but it will be an Android Wear watch: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-2/development/please-help-kernel-compiling-android-t2992953

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