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Gear 2 / Neo to be compatible with more Android devices - discuss here

It as been stated that the Samsung Gear 2 will also be made compatible with other manufacturers Android devices.
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/04...-second-quarter-2014-rollout-for-tizen-phone/
This will be a major step with getting people interested in these new wearables.

ash99 said:
It as been stated that the Samsung Gear 2 will also be made compatible with other manufacturers Android devices.
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/04...-second-quarter-2014-rollout-for-tizen-phone/
This will be a major step with getting people interested in these new wearables.
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The article also says Samsung will release an Android based smartwatch later this year... I'm not even going to attempt to understand that one. The only way I can see them doing that is if they run with Android Wear just to have a device in that space (you know, the Android faithful crowd).

Yeah, the Android Wear bit did confuse me as well. Kinda glad I'm not the only one that gets confused about these things. Lol.
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i'd get a Gear 2 (or Neo) if i knew if would certainly work with my phone, but "eventually" could be a month or a year from now

JarlSX said:
i'd get a Gear 2 (or Neo) if i knew if would certainly work with my phone, but "eventually" could be a month or a year from now
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True. Surely Samsung should know how detrimental it is to their overall Smart phone strategy. Hopefully sooner than later

ash99 said:
True. Surely Samsung should know how detrimental it is to their overall Smart phone strategy. Hopefully sooner than later
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How really? They anyways control more than 50% of Android smartphone market share. I am yet to find a reason why that would hurt them. How can locking customers in their own eco system be detrimental to their profits?

Well yes they have the smartphone market, but with this restriction they will not own the wearable market using Tizen. Wearable is the new fighting ground for devices and revenue.
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Not sure if Google Nexus watch will support more then just Google phones (I assume it will be all Android) but it is to be announced in July at Google I/O. It looks a lot nicer then the Gear 2. At that point I have a feeling that the Gear 2 will get phased out if they don't open up to Android by then. Mainly because Google is a super power and they will find a way to push them out of the way. The next 2 months are vital to the GG2's existence outside of the Samsung ecosystem.

Here's a list of the latest Samsung devices compatible with the Gear 2:
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/04/samsung-increases-its-gear-2-neo-tizen-comptability/
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CarbonWyre said:
Not sure if Google Nexus watch will support more then just Google phones (I assume it will be all Android) but it is to be announced in July at Google I/O. It looks a lot nicer then the Gear 2. At that point I have a feeling that the Gear 2 will get phased out if they don't open up to Android by then. Mainly because Google is a super power and they will find a way to push them out of the way. The next 2 months are vital to the GG2's existence outside of the Samsung ecosystem.
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What do you mean by opening up to Android? This is built on Tizen, everyone knows that already.
Guess you haven't checked Samsung's financial results lately. Samsung Electronics made 7.7 billion profit last Q. That's just the electronics division. They have countless other companies controlled by same family/chaebol.

For the life of me, I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about the gear series only working with Samsung devices. If and when the iWatch is released everyone will praise them like sheep and no one will complain that it won't work with my note 3. Samsung sells MILLIONS more phones than apple yearly. So why does everyone have an issue with it? Also, since I'm ranting again, leave Android wear for Android. Meaning I don't want Android wear on my Gear 2 neo. Android wear is nothing more than a wearable notification system. Android wear on this device would be like buying a Ferrari and swappjng the motor for an LS7 for no other reason than you like corvettes. Android wear would cripple this awesomely capable device. OK its late.... I'm done. Don't mind me. ... I'm sleepy
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For the life of me, I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about the gear series only working with Samsung devices. If and when the iWatch is released everyone will praise them like sheep and no one will complain that it won't work with my note 3. Samsung sells MILLIONS more phones than apple yearly. So why does everyone have an issue with it? Also, since I'm ranting again, leave Android wear for Android. Meaning I don't want Android wear on my Gear 2 neo. Android wear is nothing more than a wearable notification system. Android wear on this device would be like buying a Ferrari and swappjng the motor for an LS7 for no other reason than you like corvettes. Android wear would cripple this awesomely capable device. OK its late.... I'm done. Don't mind me. ... I'm sleepy
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Nice rant. I'm with you brother. I'm a big samsung guy and love my gear. We don't know what Apple will bring to the table because they keep putting watches and phones "iPhone 6" off for release. They're so far behind the curve is ridiculous. Now. That being said the one thing you said could be wrong. The initial rumors are apple's Iwatch will run on all devices. That's what the rumors say. It would be in their best interest to do that and try and steal away Android and windows phone customers. We'll see. Maybe the iwatch will be released before the gear 3.. lol
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primo523 said:
Nice rant. I'm with you brother. I'm a big samsung guy and love my gear. We don't know what Apple will bring to the table because they keep putting watches and phones "iPhone 6" off for release. They're so far behind the curve is ridiculous. Now. That being said the one thing you said could be wrong. The initial rumors are apple's Iwatch will run on all devices. That's what the rumors say. It would be in their best interest to do that and try and steal away Android and windows phone customers. We'll see. Maybe the iwatch will be released before the gear 3.. lol
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If Apple actually allows their watch to be used with android devices.... It will signal the death of Apple. The last time they said something would work with all devices they meant 3gs and newer. Lol. But really, if it does, Steve Jobs will rise from the dead and smack Jony Ive so damn hard that his face will swell into the Google.com logo of the day.
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Gear 2 works fine with my HTC One M8, just need to find the APK for the Gear Manager. Obviously certain samsung specific features like the Weather, S-Health, S-Voice wont work but other features including notifications work fine.

RaiderX303 said:
Gear 2 works fine with my HTC One M8, just need to find the APK for the Gear Manager. Obviously certain samsung specific features like the Weather, S-Health, S-Voice wont work but other features including notifications work fine.
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Does the media controller work for you? I really miss being able to control Play Music like I could with my Pebble.

bryanhayn said:
Does the media controller work for you? I really miss being able to control Play Music like I could with my Pebble.
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It will if you follow the instructions posted in the guide in this forum.
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mpogr said:
It will if you follow the instructions posted in the guide in this forum.
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I followed the instructions to a T, even started from a fresh CloudyFlex 2.1 ROM install - Media Controller appears on my Gear 2 and I'm able to adjust the volume from it and see the currently playing track, but it won't let me pause/play or skip tracks. I'm using Play Music.

bryanhayn said:
I followed the instructions to a T, even started from a fresh CloudyFlex 2.1 ROM install - Media Controller appears on my Gear 2 and I'm able to adjust the volume from it and see the currently playing track, but it won't let me pause/play or skip tracks. I'm using Play Music.
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I'm using Sense 6 Music Play application on HTC One M8 and all the controls work (play/pause, skip tracks forward/backward and volume up/down). Could be a Google issue.

Wife's Gear 2 came in the mail, so I decided to try it myself. I was able to do take photo's and sync them to my phone and make phone calls. I didn't try the notifications or replying to them.
I'd definitely want one, but not to sure about it. If it had the Nike+ running app on it, then I'd definitely get it.

dinggus said:
Wife's Gear 2 came in the mail, so I decided to try it myself. I was able to do take photo's and sync them to my phone and make phone calls. I didn't try the notifications or replying to them.
I'd definitely want one, but not to sure about it. If it had the Nike+ running app on it, then I'd definitely get it.
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What phone and version of android are you on? note3 s4 or s5? Im on an S4 with 4.3 I have not gone to 4.4 and wondering if the gear 2 i have comming this week needs kit kat or not

Gear 2 Tizen to Android

So a quick question here. Since we have a firmware dump for the Gear 2 would we not have the ability to port the original Gear firmware to the Gear 2? We should be able to verify the structure of the device correct? I do believe both devices have really close specs other than the CPU upgrade and I believe the Btooth is different between the 2 devices. Thanks.

Velrix said:
So a quick question here. Since we have a firmware dump for the Gear 2 would we not have the ability to port the original Gear firmware to the Gear 2? We should be able to verify the structure of the device correct? I do believe both devices have really close specs other than the CPU upgrade and I believe the Btooth is different between the 2 devices. Thanks.
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Would be even more interesting to see if we could get it to run Android Wear! I'd be willing to put a cash bounty on that! (If the battery could hold up to it.)

Im sure it will be achieved in due time..
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DAGr8 said:
Im sure it will be achieved in due time..
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jp712 said:
Would be even more interesting to see if we could get it to run Android Wear! I'd be willing to put a cash bounty on that! (If the battery could hold up to it.)
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10 bucks from me.
Tizen is useless. For me anyway as someone who wants to install apps and have it communicate with other Android devices.

juiceppc said:
10 bucks from me.
Tizen is useless. For me anyway as someone who wants to install apps and have it communicate with other Android devices.
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In the spirit of digging up an old thread. ... Android Wear on my Gear 2 would be awesome if it would run well.
+$50 for fully functional Android Wear with a respectable battery (At least one day...)
Lets see if we can get someone who knows how to do this intrested!
Seeing samsung announce a Gear with Wear so soon is a bit disheartening for me. I got the first Gear, returned it because the Gear 2 was going to be announced. Im happy with the upgrades but dissapointed because I feel like development is going to die as soon as the Moto 360 and other Android Wear devices are launched later this year.

s3 to n5?

I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?

Aside from possibly the camera...and no SD slot.....yes, a huge upgrade. IMHO.

I just came from my GS3 to the N5 and the difference is night and day. Even with a KitKat rom on my GS3 it isnt nearly as fast and smooth as the N5.
Not to mention N5 roms are nearly bug free.
You do lose the SD card as mentioned above, the camera (I think) is a little better quality.
Battery is way better.

Thanks for the replies. I was thinking I'd wait for the lg g3 but it seems like the g2 is difficult to unlock and root, at least when it has 4.4. I have been using KitKat on my s3 for so long I don't think I could be happy with anything lower. The s3 is good but after I've been using my n7 for a while the Samsung feels slow.

kingston73 said:
Thanks for the replies. I was thinking I'd wait for the lg g3 but it seems like the g2 is difficult to unlock and root, at least when it has 4.4. I have been using KitKat on my s3 for so long I don't think I could be happy with anything lower. The s3 is good but after I've been using my n7 for a while the Samsung feels slow.
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You won't be disappointed with the upgrade. Went from i747 to N5 and everything is so much smoother. Keep your s3 with a proven rom as a backup but don't expect to jump back to it once you feel the difference in speed and reliability of the nexus 5.
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kingston73 said:
I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
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I came 2 days ago from a d2spr. I can't begin to explain the night and day difference between the 2.
Hardware aside, the development here is way more active than on the s3 side. Hope to see you here.....

kingston73 said:
I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
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One and half month back I had the same confusion regarding this.
But after switching to N5, I am quite happy than before, until and unless you experience it you wont understand the differences of its software and hardware from S3.

Wi Fi Direct
Everyone forgot to tell you that wi fi direct does not work on the N5

chainsuk said:
Everyone forgot to tell you that wi fi direct does not work on the N5
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Never used it...

galaxy s5 is better
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watalee said:
galaxy s5 is better
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Please don't troll.
"better" is subjective. Samsung cannot make a touchwiz device that doesn't lag. All of us who have had Galaxy devices know this. The s5 is no exception. The OP did not mention the S5. If he wanted an S5, he would have posted this in the S5 forum. Lets try to stay on topic please.

For sure they are two different "worlds".
If you seek speed of light and high rate of updates then you should go, for sure, of N5

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For sure they are two different "worlds".
If you seek speed of light and high rate of updates then you should go, for sure, of N5
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That's exactly why I was looking at the n5 and not the s5. I found a 32gb black nexus for $315 on swappa so it's on its way now. I know the s5 has better stats on paper but it would also ruin any warranty if I rooted it ( samsungs counter). I like experimenting with different roms and I haven't used tpuchwiz for months. I know the n5 isn't exactly new but it's new enough that it should get the next update version of andriod.

I came from the Note 2, which is similar spec to the S3, and here’s what I miss the most:
-Wolfson DAC: With DAC Direct, audio sounded far superior on Note 2 (the reason audiophiles love Samsung phones)
-APT-X Bluetooth Codec: Again, sounds far superior to standard BT audio
-Phase Detection Auto Focus: For fast focus lock. N5 uses contrast detection, which is why it’s slow to focus
-Camera voice commands: Handy when taking photos of the kids / pets etc
-Expandable Storage: I would have liked the option to use my own SD cards, however I have bought a USB OTG SD card reader so this point is moot now
Apart from that I couldn’t be happier with the N5, and am actually happy to be rid of all Samsung’s gimmicks and so called “features”.
So if you haven’t already, go for it!

Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.

kingston73 said:
Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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This might help identify what model you have:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2013/google-nexus-5-gets-design-changes.html
I believe I have the "revised" model, but the speaker still sucks.
In fact, I should have added "speaker" to what I miss from the Note 2 in the list above

kingston73 said:
Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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CitizenLee said:
This might help identify what model you have:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2013/google-nexus-5-gets-design-changes.html
I believe I have the "revised" model, but the speaker still sucks.
In fact, I should have added "speaker" to what I miss from the Note 2 in the list above
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Nope, its complete BS. Some have little holes some have big holes. Some have softer soft touch, some have yellower displays. It's not a revision. It is not a concious decision.
Read about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...lease-stop-talking-hardware-versions-t2597276

rootSU said:
Nope, its complete BS. Some have little holes some have big holes. Some have softer soft touch, some have yellower displays. It's not a revision. It is not a concious decision.
Read about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...lease-stop-talking-hardware-versions-t2597276
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I'm new to the N5 so wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read about them today, so I just posted the first link that appeared in Google regarding the "differences".
Good post though, hit the nail on the head regarding tolerance, human error, and everything else really.
Like yourself I have light bleed, but I can live with it as it's only noticeable when it boots up.

CitizenLee said:
I'm new to the N5 so wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read about them today, so I just posted the first link that appeared in Google regarding the "differences".
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No worries. Loads of website reported it as fact for a long time and we still see the repercussions of that now.

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No worries. Loads of website reported it as fact for a long time and we still see the repercussions of that now.
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Aye, seems to be quite common these days that websites run a story without properly fact checking!

Samsung gear VR users

Any success with your note 5? What ROM are you using for the vr to work?
Thanks

Brava27 said:
Any success with your note 5? What ROM are you using for the vr to work?
Thanks
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I was nervous at first because on first attempt it was unusable. It was incredibly "jerky"... So I Odin to stock...perfect ever since. Even rooted and installed latest Breakdown. It's pretty damn amazing

Anyone who jumps, bought this? I can't justify buying it if I will just have to get rid of it when I get a new note device....damn you samsung for making it device specific.
sorry I know this is out of context

mgbotoe said:
Anyone who jumps, bought this? I can't justify buying it if I will just have to get rid of it when I get a new note device....damn you samsung for making it device specific.
sorry I know this is out of context
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It's hard to know if it'll be future compatible with S7 or Note 6 as those devices don't actually exist in a format we can be sure of. Only rumors.
That being said, this VR supports far more than the One device Innovator edition so unless they change port layout or physical size, there's no reason why it couldn't work.

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It's hard to know if it'll be future compatible with S7 or Note 6 as those devices don't actually exist in a format we can be sure of. Only rumors.
That being said, this VR supports far more than the One device Innovator edition so unless they change port layout or physical size, there's no reason why it couldn't work.
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The one made specifically for the note 4...does not work with anything else but the note 4. Same justification was used with that as well lol. But I don't want to steal this thread
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Yeah, I covered that.
"this VR supports far more than the One device Innovator edition"
There were multiple "one device" Innovator editions, but the Consumer version supports Note5, S6, S6 edge and S6 edge+, and cheaper. It has multiple size settings, which is a GREAT sign for possible future compatibility.
It's a pretty decent device and well worth it at the price.
Just because you'll jump in the future, doesn't mean it's not worth it right now.

How is the screen door effect? I have Oculus DK1. How does it compare to that?

Briankbl said:
How is the screen door effect? I have Oculus DK1. How does it compare to that?
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It's definitely there. It bothers some folks, not others. Doesn't bother me much, I got used to it.
On a side note:
Some of the apps (same ones from Innovator edition) still give me motion sickness. I guess I'm just doomed to never run those apps.

You can tell it's there. I still love it though. Netflix is awesome using it. Watched a video yesterday of the blue angels flying at was amazing.

Edit. VR fine. It was the Arter kernel on my N5 Loco rom. Switched kernels to skyhigh and works perfect although a few random reboots on phone when using but not many. It's tolerable until an update comes out. But for now I'm running stock everything unrooted because the VR rocks that way and I've been showing it to many peeps over Christmas. Tomorrow I'll re-rom and kernel it back.

bump any updates on this?

The only rom/kernel that works with VR is Stock Modified. However I found that it causes issues with bluetooth and after a while my moto 360 stops getting notifications.
Wish roms could support VR, would make things easier

Darthstalker's Rom seems to work well with the latest Sky High
I've hard Breakdown also works, but haven't tested it.. Hopefully Tek is working on it for his Rom, but I doubt it.

Is there a way to use S4 with this device?
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Dr room is the best one. With sky-high kernel but lately I keep going back to tekhd

Want to get the S3 have some questions

I want to get the Gear S3 Frontier. I have a Honor 8 phone. I use Google Messenger and Google Allo. Do both of these apps work with the Gear S3, can I send and receive text messages etc. I don't want to use the stock Samsung app.

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I want to get the Gear S3 Frontier. I have a Honor 8 phone. I use Google Messenger and Google Allo. Do both of these apps work with the Gear S3, can I send and receive text messages etc. I don't want to use the stock Samsung app.
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You get notifications(with the content like you have in the Android status bar) , but you can not reply from the watch

falcon26 said:
I want to get the Gear S3 Frontier. I have a Honor 8 phone. I use Google Messenger and Google Allo. Do both of these apps work with the Gear S3, can I send and receive text messages etc. I don't want to use the stock Samsung app.
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You get notifications(with the content like you have in the Android status bar) , but you can not reply from the watch
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Replying works too but requires installing android wear and pairing it with an emulator.

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Replying works too but requires installing android wear and pairing it with an emulator.
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How to pair with emulator? Mine just says trying to connect....
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How to pair with emulator? Mine just says trying to connect....
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http://www.tomsguide.com/faq/id-2452471/install-android-wear-emulator.html

Perfect... will this enable more features on my Gear S3? As Iv read that it doesn't but some say it does... whats your take..?
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Perfect... will this enable more features on my Gear S3? As Iv read that it doesn't but some say it does... whats your take..?
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It is for android wear watches so doesn't do much for gear, it only enables replying to the messages even if you are not using samsung's message app. You can just use SMSGear instead of doing this actually. https://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/themes/opensource-sms-application-gear-s3-t3557263

Ahh only sms... I thought whatsapp etc also...
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I will probably skip the Samsung watch and grab a wear watch instead like the Lg Style. After some reading Samsung watches are great if you have a Samsung phone, but if you do not then it's hit or miss with most apps and some don't work at all. And of course the apps I use are the ones that apparently don't work at all with Samsung. Shame really because I think the Samsung watch looks almost like the $1000 Tag Heuer smart watch. If they would have only used wear software instead of there own.

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I will probably skip the Samsung watch and grab a wear watch instead like the Lg Style. After some reading Samsung watches are great if you have a Samsung phone, but if you do not then it's hit or miss with most apps and some don't work at all. And of course the apps I use are the ones that apparently don't work at all with Samsung. Shame really because I think the Samsung watch looks almost like the $1000 Tag Heuer smart watch. If they would have only used wear software instead of there own.
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(I'm not sure where you're at but) Check Best Buy. The Samsung Rep told me you can return the S3 within a 15-day period after buying. I asked the rep at a Best Buy (at a location with a Samsung gallery -- not all locations have) to take the S3 out of Store Demo Mode so I can pair it with my old Galaxy Note 2 but he said he can't. He mentioned I can buy and return it within 15 days if I'm not happy with it. If you're going to do this, see if you can involve a manager. Sometimes reps just say whatever they want to make a sale. But who knows. He could be telling the truth.

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(I'm not sure where you're at but) Check Best Buy. The Samsung Rep told me you can return the S3 within a 15-day period after buying. I asked the rep at a Best Buy (at a location with a Samsung gallery -- not all locations have) to take the S3 out of Store Demo Mode so I can pair it with my old Galaxy Note 2 but he said he can't. He mentioned I can buy and return it within 15 days if I'm not happy with it. If you're going to do this, see if you can involve a manager. Sometimes reps just say whatever they want to make a sale. But who knows. He could be telling the truth.
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Best buy's return policy is 15 days unless otherwise stated. The only reason I know that is they will price match anything you buy within the return period as well. I had bought a TV and on the 15th day it dropped by about $500. Called them up and they refunded that amount. The info on price matching and return policy can be found easily on their website.

So I checked out the S3 at T-Mobile store. Never mind its way to big and heavy. Also it didn't work with half the stuff I wanted to do on my Pixel. I think this watch is great if you have a Samsung phone, but if it's a non Samsung phone then expect half the stuff not to work right. I think I will pick up the new LG Sport watch instead...

falcon26 said:
So I checked out the S3 at T-Mobile store. Never mind its way to big and heavy. Also it didn't work with half the stuff I wanted to do on my Pixel. I think this watch is great if you have a Samsung phone, but if it's a non Samsung phone then expect half the stuff not to work right. I think I will pick up the new LG Sport watch instead...
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If you're concerned about sizes, I think the LG Sport Watch is bigger but along with its size, you get more screen and a higher resolution. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough room to improve on battery life for the LG even for its bigger size. I'm on the morning of Day 3 and I still have 62% battery power (granted I turn it off after 9pm and turn it back on at 6am). Lots of trade-offs. But I agree. You get a better experience with the Gear S3 if you have a Galaxy phone. Have you seen this article? http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-watch-sport-vs-samsung-gear-s3
EDIT: One of the best things I love about the S3 is Samsung Pay (way better than Android Pay). Never again do I pull my wallet out (except when I occasionally buy wine -- I still get carded LOL!)

falcon26 said:
So I checked out the S3 at T-Mobile store. Never mind its way to big and heavy. Also it didn't work with half the stuff I wanted to do on my Pixel. I think this watch is great if you have a Samsung phone, but if it's a non Samsung phone then expect half the stuff not to work right. I think I will pick up the new LG Sport watch instead...
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That hasn't been my experience at all. I have a Moto G4 and my wife has a Huawei phone and the S3 works very well with either. I've paired it separately with both plus an older Moto E I and everything works without a hitch. I know there have been some hitches with the IPhone but I wouldn't touch one of those if my life depended on it so I can't comment there.

There isn't a huge difference in the S3 user experience with a Samsung phone versus other branded Android phones. Regardless, if integration with the Google ecosystem is paramount, an AW watch will fulfill those duties better than the S3. But the LG Sport has a few serious shortcomings compared to the S3: inferior battery life, fixed wristband (a comfort and customization issue), and lack of MST. The LG Sport is the best AW 2.0 watch on the market only because it's the only one on the market right now. I too am waiting, I just chose to do it while using the S3 in the interim.