Gear 2 / Neo to be compatible with more Android devices - discuss here - Samsung Gear 2

It as been stated that the Samsung Gear 2 will also be made compatible with other manufacturers Android devices.
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/04...-second-quarter-2014-rollout-for-tizen-phone/
This will be a major step with getting people interested in these new wearables.

ash99 said:
It as been stated that the Samsung Gear 2 will also be made compatible with other manufacturers Android devices.
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/04...-second-quarter-2014-rollout-for-tizen-phone/
This will be a major step with getting people interested in these new wearables.
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The article also says Samsung will release an Android based smartwatch later this year... I'm not even going to attempt to understand that one. The only way I can see them doing that is if they run with Android Wear just to have a device in that space (you know, the Android faithful crowd).

Yeah, the Android Wear bit did confuse me as well. Kinda glad I'm not the only one that gets confused about these things. Lol.
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i'd get a Gear 2 (or Neo) if i knew if would certainly work with my phone, but "eventually" could be a month or a year from now

JarlSX said:
i'd get a Gear 2 (or Neo) if i knew if would certainly work with my phone, but "eventually" could be a month or a year from now
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True. Surely Samsung should know how detrimental it is to their overall Smart phone strategy. Hopefully sooner than later

ash99 said:
True. Surely Samsung should know how detrimental it is to their overall Smart phone strategy. Hopefully sooner than later
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How really? They anyways control more than 50% of Android smartphone market share. I am yet to find a reason why that would hurt them. How can locking customers in their own eco system be detrimental to their profits?

Well yes they have the smartphone market, but with this restriction they will not own the wearable market using Tizen. Wearable is the new fighting ground for devices and revenue.
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Not sure if Google Nexus watch will support more then just Google phones (I assume it will be all Android) but it is to be announced in July at Google I/O. It looks a lot nicer then the Gear 2. At that point I have a feeling that the Gear 2 will get phased out if they don't open up to Android by then. Mainly because Google is a super power and they will find a way to push them out of the way. The next 2 months are vital to the GG2's existence outside of the Samsung ecosystem.

Here's a list of the latest Samsung devices compatible with the Gear 2:
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/04/samsung-increases-its-gear-2-neo-tizen-comptability/
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CarbonWyre said:
Not sure if Google Nexus watch will support more then just Google phones (I assume it will be all Android) but it is to be announced in July at Google I/O. It looks a lot nicer then the Gear 2. At that point I have a feeling that the Gear 2 will get phased out if they don't open up to Android by then. Mainly because Google is a super power and they will find a way to push them out of the way. The next 2 months are vital to the GG2's existence outside of the Samsung ecosystem.
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What do you mean by opening up to Android? This is built on Tizen, everyone knows that already.
Guess you haven't checked Samsung's financial results lately. Samsung Electronics made 7.7 billion profit last Q. That's just the electronics division. They have countless other companies controlled by same family/chaebol.

For the life of me, I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about the gear series only working with Samsung devices. If and when the iWatch is released everyone will praise them like sheep and no one will complain that it won't work with my note 3. Samsung sells MILLIONS more phones than apple yearly. So why does everyone have an issue with it? Also, since I'm ranting again, leave Android wear for Android. Meaning I don't want Android wear on my Gear 2 neo. Android wear is nothing more than a wearable notification system. Android wear on this device would be like buying a Ferrari and swappjng the motor for an LS7 for no other reason than you like corvettes. Android wear would cripple this awesomely capable device. OK its late.... I'm done. Don't mind me. ... I'm sleepy
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For the life of me, I don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about the gear series only working with Samsung devices. If and when the iWatch is released everyone will praise them like sheep and no one will complain that it won't work with my note 3. Samsung sells MILLIONS more phones than apple yearly. So why does everyone have an issue with it? Also, since I'm ranting again, leave Android wear for Android. Meaning I don't want Android wear on my Gear 2 neo. Android wear is nothing more than a wearable notification system. Android wear on this device would be like buying a Ferrari and swappjng the motor for an LS7 for no other reason than you like corvettes. Android wear would cripple this awesomely capable device. OK its late.... I'm done. Don't mind me. ... I'm sleepy
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Nice rant. I'm with you brother. I'm a big samsung guy and love my gear. We don't know what Apple will bring to the table because they keep putting watches and phones "iPhone 6" off for release. They're so far behind the curve is ridiculous. Now. That being said the one thing you said could be wrong. The initial rumors are apple's Iwatch will run on all devices. That's what the rumors say. It would be in their best interest to do that and try and steal away Android and windows phone customers. We'll see. Maybe the iwatch will be released before the gear 3.. lol
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primo523 said:
Nice rant. I'm with you brother. I'm a big samsung guy and love my gear. We don't know what Apple will bring to the table because they keep putting watches and phones "iPhone 6" off for release. They're so far behind the curve is ridiculous. Now. That being said the one thing you said could be wrong. The initial rumors are apple's Iwatch will run on all devices. That's what the rumors say. It would be in their best interest to do that and try and steal away Android and windows phone customers. We'll see. Maybe the iwatch will be released before the gear 3.. lol
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If Apple actually allows their watch to be used with android devices.... It will signal the death of Apple. The last time they said something would work with all devices they meant 3gs and newer. Lol. But really, if it does, Steve Jobs will rise from the dead and smack Jony Ive so damn hard that his face will swell into the Google.com logo of the day.
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Gear 2 works fine with my HTC One M8, just need to find the APK for the Gear Manager. Obviously certain samsung specific features like the Weather, S-Health, S-Voice wont work but other features including notifications work fine.

RaiderX303 said:
Gear 2 works fine with my HTC One M8, just need to find the APK for the Gear Manager. Obviously certain samsung specific features like the Weather, S-Health, S-Voice wont work but other features including notifications work fine.
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Does the media controller work for you? I really miss being able to control Play Music like I could with my Pebble.

bryanhayn said:
Does the media controller work for you? I really miss being able to control Play Music like I could with my Pebble.
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It will if you follow the instructions posted in the guide in this forum.
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It will if you follow the instructions posted in the guide in this forum.
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I followed the instructions to a T, even started from a fresh CloudyFlex 2.1 ROM install - Media Controller appears on my Gear 2 and I'm able to adjust the volume from it and see the currently playing track, but it won't let me pause/play or skip tracks. I'm using Play Music.

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I followed the instructions to a T, even started from a fresh CloudyFlex 2.1 ROM install - Media Controller appears on my Gear 2 and I'm able to adjust the volume from it and see the currently playing track, but it won't let me pause/play or skip tracks. I'm using Play Music.
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I'm using Sense 6 Music Play application on HTC One M8 and all the controls work (play/pause, skip tracks forward/backward and volume up/down). Could be a Google issue.

Wife's Gear 2 came in the mail, so I decided to try it myself. I was able to do take photo's and sync them to my phone and make phone calls. I didn't try the notifications or replying to them.
I'd definitely want one, but not to sure about it. If it had the Nike+ running app on it, then I'd definitely get it.

dinggus said:
Wife's Gear 2 came in the mail, so I decided to try it myself. I was able to do take photo's and sync them to my phone and make phone calls. I didn't try the notifications or replying to them.
I'd definitely want one, but not to sure about it. If it had the Nike+ running app on it, then I'd definitely get it.
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What phone and version of android are you on? note3 s4 or s5? Im on an S4 with 4.3 I have not gone to 4.4 and wondering if the gear 2 i have comming this week needs kit kat or not

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Gear 2 Tizen to Android

So a quick question here. Since we have a firmware dump for the Gear 2 would we not have the ability to port the original Gear firmware to the Gear 2? We should be able to verify the structure of the device correct? I do believe both devices have really close specs other than the CPU upgrade and I believe the Btooth is different between the 2 devices. Thanks.
Velrix said:
So a quick question here. Since we have a firmware dump for the Gear 2 would we not have the ability to port the original Gear firmware to the Gear 2? We should be able to verify the structure of the device correct? I do believe both devices have really close specs other than the CPU upgrade and I believe the Btooth is different between the 2 devices. Thanks.
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Would be even more interesting to see if we could get it to run Android Wear! I'd be willing to put a cash bounty on that! (If the battery could hold up to it.)
Im sure it will be achieved in due time..
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DAGr8 said:
Im sure it will be achieved in due time..
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jp712 said:
Would be even more interesting to see if we could get it to run Android Wear! I'd be willing to put a cash bounty on that! (If the battery could hold up to it.)
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10 bucks from me.
Tizen is useless. For me anyway as someone who wants to install apps and have it communicate with other Android devices.
juiceppc said:
10 bucks from me.
Tizen is useless. For me anyway as someone who wants to install apps and have it communicate with other Android devices.
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In the spirit of digging up an old thread. ... Android Wear on my Gear 2 would be awesome if it would run well.
+$50 for fully functional Android Wear with a respectable battery (At least one day...)
Lets see if we can get someone who knows how to do this intrested!
Seeing samsung announce a Gear with Wear so soon is a bit disheartening for me. I got the first Gear, returned it because the Gear 2 was going to be announced. Im happy with the upgrades but dissapointed because I feel like development is going to die as soon as the Moto 360 and other Android Wear devices are launched later this year.

Anyone plan to sell for an Android wear watch?

I see LG released a video of the G Watch. Not sure what I think about Android Wear. Mainly because I don't know what more I would want my Gear 2 to do. I feel silly in public said "Reject" or "Answer". I couldn't imagine...."Ok Google....take me.....".
They're not stylish enough yet, they need to get diamond encrusted version on the street, something with some style/bling etc.
eric93se said:
They're not stylish enough yet, they need to get diamond encrusted version on the street, something with some style/bling etc.
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They seem equally as stylish as a Gear.
not unless after a few months there is a serious lack of progress/app development for this watch.
there has been a steady influx of new apps available and may is the samsung app challenge with 200 apps worth of prizes, i have hopes that this month will see a big influx of capability to the gear 2/g2neo
I m hoping to have the google os on our watch asap..
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DAGr8 said:
I m hoping to have the google os on our watch asap..
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I hope for the same thing. I bet a version of the OS will come for the Gear 1.
Just like the Samsung phones have the hardware options I want and can be made better w/ custom ROMs, I'm hoping the same thing can be done w/ the Gear 2 eventually. This is the reason I picked up the Gear 2 as I don't know if any Android Wear devices would come with the IR blaster that Gear 2 watches have.
EVOme said:
I hope for the same thing. I bet a version of the OS will come for the Gear 1.
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Nope...
I have no intentions of selling my gear 2 BUT I do plan on buying the moto 360 when it's released! :good:

[Q] Do you think the Gear 2 will work on Lollipop (Nexus 6)

I am considering purchasing a Nexus 6 when it becomes available on T-mobile but would really hate not being able to pair it with my Gear 2. I really have become addicted to it. I had been originally holding out for the Note Edge to replace my Note 3 but then was able to get one of the Nexus 9 tablets and I think that I am becoming a convert to "pure android"! Any thoughts or speculations would be appreciated. Hard facts would be even better.
still looking?
firstflyer said:
I am considering purchasing a Nexus 6 when it becomes available on T-mobile but would really hate not being able to pair it with my Gear 2. I really have become addicted to it. I had been originally holding out for the Note Edge to replace my Note 3 but then was able to get one of the Nexus 9 tablets and I think that I am becoming a convert to "pure android"! Any thoughts or speculations would be appreciated. Hard facts would be even better.
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I have both devices but have only paired my android wear watches so far with the N6. that being said if you are still looking for an answer let me know and we could do some testing.
Probably not... I don't even think you could get the gear to pair on non tw roms? It took awhile for them to port it to the n2 but that didn't have full compatability. The way I understood it is there more concerned with running it on the Samsung devices so it is left up to the devs and I don't think samsung has quite hit the mark on the smart watch market yet.
firstflyer said:
I am considering purchasing a Nexus 6 when it becomes available on T-mobile but would really hate not being able to pair it with my Gear 2. I really have become addicted to it. I had been originally holding out for the Note Edge to replace my Note 3 but then was able to get one of the Nexus 9 tablets and I think that I am becoming a convert to "pure android"! Any thoughts or speculations would be appreciated. Hard facts would be even better.
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I have done some looking and I'm sure you can get it working at least 90% of all functionality
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Probably not... I don't even think you could get the gear to pair on non tw roms? It took awhile for them to port it to the n2 but that didn't have full compatability. The way I understood it is there more concerned with running it on the Samsung devices so it is left up to the devs and I don't think samsung has quite hit the mark on the smart watch market yet.
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I have done some looking and I'm sure you can get it working at least 90% of all functionality
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From what? Everything I've seen requires a tw base. I'm interested in this a bit, too since i got a good deal on one but I don't use it
kimdoocheol said:
From what? Everything I've seen requires a tw base. I'm interested in this a bit, too since i got a good deal on one but I don't use it
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I have been using my gear 2 and my gear S for a while now. The nexus 6 is no different. There are a couple ways to go about it without using touch wiz. The gear 2 is actually much better considering that there is already a rooted custom rom out for it, and like i said, with that you will get about 95% functionality. I believe the weather app isnt 100% working and one more thing whixh i cant think of, but all the good stuff works perfect and even a few added features. Making/ recieving calls, ir blaster, watch faces, bluetooth, notifica.... all thats 100%. If you need any help or wan't to try it just pm me. I think this op may have found his answer already though.
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I have been using my gear 2 and my gear S for a while now. The nexus 6 is no different. There are a couple ways to go about it without using touch wiz. The gear 2 is actually much better considering that there is already a rooted custom rom out for it, and like i said, with that you will get about 95% functionality. I believe the weather app isnt 100% working and one more thing whixh i cant think of, but all the good stuff works perfect and even a few added features. Making/ recieving calls, ir blaster, watch faces, bluetooth, notifica.... all thats 100%. If you need any help or wan't to try it just pm me. I think this op may have found his answer already though.
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Hi there. I sent you a PM about a similar request. Can you please check and let me know?
Did you guys actually figure out if it works with nexus 6?
Hi, someone managed to connect the gear 2 with nexus 6? I'm trying but, but I do not get results. If someone have a solution can post a guide?
Would appreciate it too
Please help!!
I have gone through all the methods in trying to connect my gear 2 to my nexus 6 and nothing will work!! Has anyone actually found a way?? I don't mind if some thing don't work, I just like the text and call features anyway.. Please respond to me, I love my watch and don't want to go over to a different one
any updates on this? will the samsung gear 1 OR the gear 2 watch work with the nexus 6 2014 version? thx
I tried following an XDA tread to connect Gear 2 Neo to Moto X 3 XT1575, with watch still on Tizen. No joy.
This method worked easily, but it will be an Android Wear watch: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-2/development/please-help-kernel-compiling-android-t2992953

Is there a specific reason why this watch don't get updates anymore?

Hi
I really like the Samsung Gear S2, but if they drop updates like this, when the watch is 2 years old? I rather get a Android Wear, as at least they keep updating it for more than two years. I can see the last update for this watch is 24-04-22, which is a year after it's released, all development from Samsung has stopped. Is this normal Samsung procedure or is there a special reason that they stopped on this device (like they sold too little)?
So do you think that I can get updates in the future from Samsung if I buy a new one or should I just buy an Android Wear?
Thanks in advance
Typical of Samsung. They put out new tech so often, they drop support quickly. Samsung is known for this, unfortunately.
We need an update for gear 2
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We need an update for gear 2
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I agree. Specifically one that would allow it to work with the new Gear Manager for iphone.

Want to get the S3 have some questions

I want to get the Gear S3 Frontier. I have a Honor 8 phone. I use Google Messenger and Google Allo. Do both of these apps work with the Gear S3, can I send and receive text messages etc. I don't want to use the stock Samsung app.
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I want to get the Gear S3 Frontier. I have a Honor 8 phone. I use Google Messenger and Google Allo. Do both of these apps work with the Gear S3, can I send and receive text messages etc. I don't want to use the stock Samsung app.
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You get notifications(with the content like you have in the Android status bar) , but you can not reply from the watch
falcon26 said:
I want to get the Gear S3 Frontier. I have a Honor 8 phone. I use Google Messenger and Google Allo. Do both of these apps work with the Gear S3, can I send and receive text messages etc. I don't want to use the stock Samsung app.
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You get notifications(with the content like you have in the Android status bar) , but you can not reply from the watch
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Replying works too but requires installing android wear and pairing it with an emulator.
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Replying works too but requires installing android wear and pairing it with an emulator.
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How to pair with emulator? Mine just says trying to connect....
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How to pair with emulator? Mine just says trying to connect....
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http://www.tomsguide.com/faq/id-2452471/install-android-wear-emulator.html
Perfect... will this enable more features on my Gear S3? As Iv read that it doesn't but some say it does... whats your take..?
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Perfect... will this enable more features on my Gear S3? As Iv read that it doesn't but some say it does... whats your take..?
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It is for android wear watches so doesn't do much for gear, it only enables replying to the messages even if you are not using samsung's message app. You can just use SMSGear instead of doing this actually. https://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/themes/opensource-sms-application-gear-s3-t3557263
Ahh only sms... I thought whatsapp etc also...
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I will probably skip the Samsung watch and grab a wear watch instead like the Lg Style. After some reading Samsung watches are great if you have a Samsung phone, but if you do not then it's hit or miss with most apps and some don't work at all. And of course the apps I use are the ones that apparently don't work at all with Samsung. Shame really because I think the Samsung watch looks almost like the $1000 Tag Heuer smart watch. If they would have only used wear software instead of there own.
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I will probably skip the Samsung watch and grab a wear watch instead like the Lg Style. After some reading Samsung watches are great if you have a Samsung phone, but if you do not then it's hit or miss with most apps and some don't work at all. And of course the apps I use are the ones that apparently don't work at all with Samsung. Shame really because I think the Samsung watch looks almost like the $1000 Tag Heuer smart watch. If they would have only used wear software instead of there own.
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(I'm not sure where you're at but) Check Best Buy. The Samsung Rep told me you can return the S3 within a 15-day period after buying. I asked the rep at a Best Buy (at a location with a Samsung gallery -- not all locations have) to take the S3 out of Store Demo Mode so I can pair it with my old Galaxy Note 2 but he said he can't. He mentioned I can buy and return it within 15 days if I'm not happy with it. If you're going to do this, see if you can involve a manager. Sometimes reps just say whatever they want to make a sale. But who knows. He could be telling the truth.
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(I'm not sure where you're at but) Check Best Buy. The Samsung Rep told me you can return the S3 within a 15-day period after buying. I asked the rep at a Best Buy (at a location with a Samsung gallery -- not all locations have) to take the S3 out of Store Demo Mode so I can pair it with my old Galaxy Note 2 but he said he can't. He mentioned I can buy and return it within 15 days if I'm not happy with it. If you're going to do this, see if you can involve a manager. Sometimes reps just say whatever they want to make a sale. But who knows. He could be telling the truth.
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Best buy's return policy is 15 days unless otherwise stated. The only reason I know that is they will price match anything you buy within the return period as well. I had bought a TV and on the 15th day it dropped by about $500. Called them up and they refunded that amount. The info on price matching and return policy can be found easily on their website.
So I checked out the S3 at T-Mobile store. Never mind its way to big and heavy. Also it didn't work with half the stuff I wanted to do on my Pixel. I think this watch is great if you have a Samsung phone, but if it's a non Samsung phone then expect half the stuff not to work right. I think I will pick up the new LG Sport watch instead...
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So I checked out the S3 at T-Mobile store. Never mind its way to big and heavy. Also it didn't work with half the stuff I wanted to do on my Pixel. I think this watch is great if you have a Samsung phone, but if it's a non Samsung phone then expect half the stuff not to work right. I think I will pick up the new LG Sport watch instead...
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If you're concerned about sizes, I think the LG Sport Watch is bigger but along with its size, you get more screen and a higher resolution. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough room to improve on battery life for the LG even for its bigger size. I'm on the morning of Day 3 and I still have 62% battery power (granted I turn it off after 9pm and turn it back on at 6am). Lots of trade-offs. But I agree. You get a better experience with the Gear S3 if you have a Galaxy phone. Have you seen this article? http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-watch-sport-vs-samsung-gear-s3
EDIT: One of the best things I love about the S3 is Samsung Pay (way better than Android Pay). Never again do I pull my wallet out (except when I occasionally buy wine -- I still get carded LOL!)
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So I checked out the S3 at T-Mobile store. Never mind its way to big and heavy. Also it didn't work with half the stuff I wanted to do on my Pixel. I think this watch is great if you have a Samsung phone, but if it's a non Samsung phone then expect half the stuff not to work right. I think I will pick up the new LG Sport watch instead...
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That hasn't been my experience at all. I have a Moto G4 and my wife has a Huawei phone and the S3 works very well with either. I've paired it separately with both plus an older Moto E I and everything works without a hitch. I know there have been some hitches with the IPhone but I wouldn't touch one of those if my life depended on it so I can't comment there.
There isn't a huge difference in the S3 user experience with a Samsung phone versus other branded Android phones. Regardless, if integration with the Google ecosystem is paramount, an AW watch will fulfill those duties better than the S3. But the LG Sport has a few serious shortcomings compared to the S3: inferior battery life, fixed wristband (a comfort and customization issue), and lack of MST. The LG Sport is the best AW 2.0 watch on the market only because it's the only one on the market right now. I too am waiting, I just chose to do it while using the S3 in the interim.

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