[Q] Buying this device- Will you recommend it? - HTC Desire S

Hi everybody, I currently own a HTC One V. I want to buy a phone for my brother, which costs somewhere around 16000 rs inr..
I love flashing and will definitely be flashing cm10.1 on it . So what I want to know is that:
1. What specific problems do you all face in this phone ?(Like in the one v there a risk of bricking the phone by a simple button combination)? :fingers-crossed:
2.Is there anything I need to do after opening it out of the box (Like NOT do any software updates, etc) ?
3. How good is this phone for gaming? Judging from the Adreno 205 GPU I should guess that it SHOULD handle basic games, right? And I guess temple run will lag a bit? Or am I wrong?
4.Any other thing I MUST notice?
5.Will you recommend this device? Or should I go for any other one?
Thanks! :good:

1. there is risk that if you pull out battery while phone is turned on you can fry eMMC chip
2. do not update it because it update also hboot (you won't be able to unlock it without using htcdev)
3. I tried only max payne and it ran smooth
4. there are 2 versions of lcd panel - sony or hitachi and only sony is supported by cm9/10/AOSP now
5. if you want to buy One V, you'd better buy DS because it has same CPU, more ram, magnetic sensor ( one v doesn't have), better camera and front camera

In terms of games, My DS can run NFS Most Wanted and Modern Combat 4, NO lag at all.
Forgot to say. would definitely recommend

ContactFront said:
In terms of games, My DS can run NFS Most Wanted and Modern Combat 4, NO lag at all.
Forgot to say. would definitely recommend
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which rom do you use? and does the camera work?

Kingdomds said:
which rom do you use? and does the camera work?
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CM10. It's in my signiture.
both cameras work (preview glitch but doesn't affect camera functions)

I forgot to mention that if you unlock it via htcdev you need to flash boot.img via fastboot after every rom change

441Excelsior said:
1. there is risk that if you pull out battery while phone is turned on you can fry eMMC chip
2. do not update it because it update also hboot (you won't be able to unlock it without using htcdev)
3. I tried only max payne and it ran smooth
4. there are 2 versions of lcd panel - sony or hitachi and only sony is supported by cm9/10/AOSP now
5. if you want to buy One V, you'd better buy DS because it has same CPU, more ram, magnetic sensor ( one v doesn't have), better camera and front camera
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I own a onev.(i bought it only for the amazing dev support). I want to buy a desire s for my brother.
Ok ill not update the device to ics. But what about the users who already updated? They can't unlock it officially via HTC dev too?
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441Excelsior said:
4. there are 2 versions of lcd panel - sony or hitachi and only sony is supported by cm9/10/AOSP now
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Wtf? How will I know which is the screen going to be?
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soham_sss said:
I own a onev.(i bought it only for the amazing dev support). I want to buy a desire s for my brother.
Ok ill not update the device to ics. But what about the users who already updated? They can't unlock it officially via HTC dev too?
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You got it wrong. If you upgrade to ICS with hboot 2.x. you can only unlock via htcdev and everytime you flash a new rom you need to flash boot.img seperately.
however, there is method to downgrade hboot from 2.x to lower 0.98.x. but that's extra steps you need to take.
speaking of panel, there is command you can put into terminal emulator, which would tell you what panel is on your phone.

ContactFront said:
You got it wrong. If you upgrade to ICS with hboot 2.x. you can only unlock via htcdev and everytime you flash a new rom you need to flash boot.img seperately.
however, there is method to downgrade hboot from 2.x to lower 0.98.x. but that's extra steps you need to take.
speaking of panel, there is command you can put into terminal emulator, which would tell you what panel is on your phone.
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Thanks a lot . So cant anyone tell before opening the phone??
It's too much of a risk to take then. What if I get a Hitachi one with no roms?
:shocked:
And also, what's this then?
441Excelsior said:
2. do not update it because it update also hboot (you won't be able to unlock it without using htcdev)
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I think 441Excelsior meant the same, i.e. hboot 2.x only unlockable via htcdev
if you are unfortunate enough to end up with a Hitachi panel. there is a 82n kernel you can flash to work with CM (not sure if it works with all cm/aosp though, at least for some)

ContactFront said:
I think 441Excelsior meant the same, i.e. hboot 2.x only unlockable via htcdev
if you are unfortunate enough to end up with a Hitachi panel. there is a 82n kernel you can flash to work with CM (not sure if it works with all cm/aosp though, at least for some)
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What's the probability I receive a Hitachi panel? like, only new phones have it or only the old phones have it? How many people on this forum have it?
Is there any way to know this? I really want this phone, it seems so good..
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hmmmm honestly i don't know. i'm a lucky bastard with a sony panel
you can have a look at this thread for more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524

soham_sss said:
I own a onev.(i bought it only for the amazing dev support). I want to buy a desire s for my brother.
Ok ill not update the device to ics. But what about the users who already updated? They can't unlock it officially via HTC dev too?
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I Have HTC Desire S.. Till day before yesterday it was on ICS Official Stock. Yesterday night I have unlocked the same through HTCDev and also Rooted and Installed custom ROM (Fallout V 5.0) .
I have played most of the 3d games (Right now playing Batman, NFS and Modern Combat 4) on my DESIRE S which are working fine with out any lag and if you compare the current phone configuration (Which are in the same price range as Desire S) then obviously HTC Desire S has plus sides i.e. Gorilla glass, Front cam, Better RAM and GPU.
So go with HTC Desire S. Check the Saholic website it will cost you 16,000. ( I also have ordered one more Desire S from ebay which cost me only 9,000 INR but that is with out any warranty.)

i think that cm >7 is not really very stable on desire s.

soham_sss said:
5.Will you recommend this device? Or should I go for any other one?
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My suggestion is to aim at some more recent device, if your budget can handle one of course.
The advanced developers left Desire S long time ago. Most of the interesting projects are not finished due to lack of official support (proper drivers and binaries) for ICS and JB and will remain such. The official ICS has bugs and performance drop compared to GB, and the kernel 3 source is full with code for multiple core devices that affects the performance but is too much to be cleaned properly. Also there is not so big chance of newer devices with similar hardware to be released, respectively no source for porting newer versions of both Sense and Android (except the Desire X, but the CPU and GRP are different on it). Primo (One V) is not going to be updated further so we end with it on the hardware side (even the Desire XS ROM that is ported from Desire X is using mostly One V libraries).
More over the Mobile Wold Congress will come at the end of February, probably new product lines will be announced by various manufacturers in all price ranges. Worth waiting a month for a new toy.
All the above is my personal feeling about the future of the Desire S. Nevertheless I concider it as an excelent device with great capabilities and it was a pleasure to play with it for the past year and half and probably will not going to upgrade it at least for a half an year more. But it just cannot offer anything new and exciting compared to all the novelties around

1. For me, the battery is only so-so.. sometimes it can last 17hrs, sometimes it only lasts 5hrs with heavy usage (gaming and/or browsing)
2. after opening the box, you should caress it and enjoy the beauty of it..
3. Temple run (pun intended), NFS/TDKR/RealRacing2/BackStab/MC2/MC3/Dead Trigger/Mass Effect/Dead Space all works fine for me..
4. your Hboot and LCD Panel (the latter only if you want to flash it with CM10)
5. yes, even I can't recommend the Desire X over this.. You want a reliable low end device (this now is considered as low end already) from HTC, then look no further than this.. Or if you have a little more money, the Sensation would be great, too..
ContactFront said:
In terms of games, My DS can run NFS Most Wanted and Modern Combat 4, NO lag at all.
Forgot to say. would definitely recommend
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I'm so hooked on NFS now!
Kingdomds said:
which rom do you use? and does the camera work?
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for me, I'm using Desire XS RC1, everything works, even the burst mode and simultaneous video-photo capture, no bug in playback.. definitely recommend this ROM..
soham_sss said:
Wtf? How will I know which is the screen going to be?
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Look under the battery, if there is a mesh somewhere on the left side, it's sony.. If not, then it's hitachi..
There is a thread regarding how you can check this physically.. look it up.. :silly:
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amidabuddha said:
My suggestion is to aim at some more recent device, if your budget can handle one of course.
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Agree on this. Desire S is great for its current value, and I am still recommending it..
But if you could save up a little bit and expand your budget, I'm sure there are better recent devices.. maybe not from HTC..
But nevertheless, if we are looking at devices with the same current price range (used/preowned) then I think the DS would be one of the better ones.. Just don't expect so much from the developers side, because although they are great, talented people, but we tend to agree that slowly they are moving over to better devices and sooner or later, this device would be put under legacy.. (the "sanctuary" thread is really like a sign that slowly people are moving on from this phone)..

Look under the battery, if there is a mesh somewhere on the left side, it's sony.. If not, then it's hitachi..
There is a thread regarding how you can check this physically.. look it up.. :silly:
greatttt......now i know i have sony panel.....

Really nice phone, i love it. But its far too old & look at the Nexus 4. Cheap as hell

better to go for Htc desire X which is dual core and around 18000/= INR

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stock android ROM, AOSP rom, CM9

All,
looking for insight regarding currently available ROM's that would offer the closest thing to CM9 (from what I’ve read CM9 is only available on Tegra3 handsets)? Looking for a 'stock android experience' or AOSP based build... your suggestions are much appreciated.
currently unlocked, running 1.85FW, with CWT recovery...
many thanx,
The closest thing available right now would probably be CleanROM Dev edition 2.0. Check it out in the development section.
CleanROM DE 2 is what I'm running and it's great. It's pretty clean.
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
100%digital said:
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
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Clean ROM DE is different from what you are running. Check the dev section. As for an AOSP ROM...who knows. There are a lot of factors involved.
Rabble rabble rabble.
If I understand correctly, you'll have to wait until we get S-Off so we can flash boot.img. Once that's achieved, it will be possible to flash full ROM's. But there are still a lot of things that need to be figured out, like getting the camera working, Wifi, GPS, data, etc.
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
jmattp said:
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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You know that never happens =)
jmattp said:
If I understand correctly, you'll have to wait until we get S-Off so we can flash boot.img. Once that's achieved, it will be possible to flash full ROM's. But there are still a lot of things that need to be figured out, like getting the camera working, Wifi, GPS, data, etc.
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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eraste said:
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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Because the only device running stock Android 4.0 is the Galaxy Nexus. I've gone through several of them and they all had the same purple tint, weird crosshatch pattern visible on white images, distortion/noise at low brightness, and other issues related to the Pentile SAMOLED display. Besides that, I can't think of any other device that runs stock Android.
I especially can't think of any Android phones that look as nice as the One X. I like its unibody construction, machined earpiece grill, soft-touch case (the black one anyway, not sure if the white is glossy), the way the glass is slightly above the case like old iPod Nano, and the display itself is really good.
Before Ice Cream Sandiwch, we had maybe the Motorola Droid, the Nexus One, and then the Nexus S. I hate physical keyboards, the Droid was out. Currently, there aren't many choices if you want a vanilla Android device. Actually... there's only one, and the display is a disappointment to me.
In my opinion, the best Android phone available right now is the One X. Knowing that developers are always making custom ROM's for the majority of Android devices, I know that I don't need to let the software dictate my purchasing decision.
eraste said:
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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You realize those manufacturers slap their own crap on top of stock android too, right? Samsung - TouchWiz, Moto - Blur, LG - Whatever the heck they do. Unless you're buying a Nexus device then you're getting a manufacturer skin.
Personally, I buy for the hardware. Though, the stock software has to be tolerable enough to last me until custom roms start coming out.
pside15 said:
That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
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so without nand access the One X isn't going to see any AOSP builds? I’m not sure I entirely understand how nand is that important... I mean if you can boot a your own ROM, who cares.
Does HTC typically release the source for their phones as ‘pside15’ indicated that is an important factor in creating ROMs?
Seems like the Cyanogenmod team already has AOSP build for the Tegra handset. HTC One X (with Tegra) source isn’t released…
pside15 said:
That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
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Thanks for the correction.
100%digital said:
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
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qft.
I LOVE the htc one x for the hardware and its physical appeal, but i also cant wait for some stock android ROMs. The aroma one thats out gets pretty darn close, but its no CM9. Im hoping that in the next two weeks with our new freedom with the unlocked bootloader etc etc.. that we will get more than 2 roms... thats ALL I see currently in the dev section. I shouldnt complain though because obviously I'm no dev.
I feel like the AT&T version was a waste of my money though :/ it just doesnt have enough attention. The only reason I have it instead of the tegra 3 is because of the battery and lte. Otherwise there is literally no other reason I should keep this phone. Does anyone know if the battery life has been improved at all for the international version?
dufort said:
qft.
I LOVE the htc one x for the hardware and its physical appeal, but i also cant wait for some stock android ROMs. The aroma one thats out gets pretty darn close, but its no CM9. Im hoping that in the next two weeks with our new freedom with the unlocked bootloader etc etc.. that we will get more than 2 roms... thats ALL I see currently in the dev section. I shouldnt complain though because obviously I'm no dev.
I feel like the AT&T version was a waste of my money though :/ it just doesnt have enough attention. The only reason I have it instead of the tegra 3 is because of the battery and lte. Otherwise there is literally no other reason I should keep this phone. Does anyone know if the battery life has been improved at all for the international version?
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I'm working on one myself....but because I do not want to release trash and because I have been limited on time over the last week or two...I have not released yet. Sit tight and chill out. Phone hasnt even been out for a month yet...
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Good to see you h8 I liked your stuff on the infuse you taught me a lot
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h8rift said:
I'm working on one myself....but because I do not want to release trash and because I have been limited on time over the last week or two...I have not released yet. Sit tight and chill out. Phone hasnt even been out for a month yet...
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Oh I'm sitting tight, stoked to see what the future is with this device. Just had to vent a bit :banghead:
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100%digital said:
so without nand access the One X isn't going to see any AOSP builds? I’m not sure I entirely understand how nand is that important... I mean if you can boot a your own ROM, who cares.
Does HTC typically release the source for their phones as ‘pside15’ indicated that is an important factor in creating ROMs?
Seems like the Cyanogenmod team already has AOSP build for the Tegra handset. HTC One X (with Tegra) source isn’t released…
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Source has been released for one x tegra...
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There are only so many ways you can debloat the stock roms lol.
Things will pick up once the source is released and devs can start going crazy.
+1
jmattp said:
Because the only device running stock Android 4.0 is the Galaxy Nexus. I've gone through several of them and they all had the same purple tint, weird crosshatch pattern visible on white images, distortion/noise at low brightness, and other issues related to the Pentile SAMOLED display. Besides that, I can't think of any other device that runs stock Android.
I especially can't think of any Android phones that look as nice as the One X. I like its unibody construction, machined earpiece grill, soft-touch case (the black one anyway, not sure if the white is glossy), the way the glass is slightly above the case like old iPod Nano, and the display itself is really good.
Before Ice Cream Sandiwch, we had maybe the Motorola Droid, the Nexus One, and then the Nexus S. I hate physical keyboards, the Droid was out. Currently, there aren't many choices if you want a vanilla Android device. Actually... there's only one, and the display is a disappointment to me.
In my opinion, the best Android phone available right now is the One X. Knowing that developers are always making custom ROM's for the majority of Android devices, I know that I don't need to let the software dictate my purchasing decision.
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Exactly!

htc not realesing anymore updates for the one S [S4]

Hi there !
I have an EURO S4 htc one S and since there are 2 version of this phone ( the S4 cpu and the S3 cpu ) I'm starting to be a little concerned about updates as it's been a while since the last one.
Actually I'm still on 1.78 because 1.84 cames out just for the US t-mobile version and there are a list of bug that I would like to see fixed from htc.
1) meteo app and meteo widget works bad ( lag, crash ecc )
2) 3G isn't working sometimes even if the phone show the signal ( problem from early days )
3) Browser performance are not that great expecially now that I have some apps installed
4) live meteo background isn't working
5) also with 1.78 quadrant show a worst benchmarsk result of about 700 points!!
6) sense crash sometimes
So there are a lot of things to be fixed here and there, and as I have paid this phone a lot of money I would like to receive a decent support!!
yes, the update speed is slow like hell with only S4 and don't mention there is one more S3 now, the speed will be even slower. I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
TheEndHK said:
yes, the update speed is slow like hell with only S4 and don't mention there is one more S3 now, the speed will be even slower. I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
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Wait the TMo One S is in a different update channel so it may recieve different updates to the Euro/WWE One S. It's a "flagship" device so it should get updates (including Jelly Bean)
First of all they should end with all that silly "sense" stuff and also messing with android itself. I also have Nexus S and despite the fact that it's quite old device and dosn't run so smooth anymore, I have no problems. And I guess that this is because it uses vanilla android, not some screwed up stuff from HTC or Samsung.
HTC makes great phones in terms of hardware, but they should abondon their crapware or deliver it as an addition to android, not replacement of it's essential parts.
This is my personal view, I never liked Sense (it made sense for Windows Mobile) but i like HTC phones.
Matter of opinion I love sense over vanilla
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k1llacanon said:
Matter of opinion I love sense over vanilla
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Same here, I don't understand why people buy a HTC phone and then complain about sense.
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emdzej said:
First of all they should end with all that silly "sense" stuff and also messing with android itself. I also have Nexus S and despite the fact that it's quite old device and dosn't run so smooth anymore, I have no problems. And I guess that this is because it uses vanilla android, not some screwed up stuff from HTC or Samsung.
HTC makes great phones in terms of hardware, but they should abondon their crapware or deliver it as an addition to android, not replacement of it's essential parts.
This is my personal view, I never liked Sense (it made sense for Windows Mobile) but i like HTC phones.
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completly disagree, I buy HTC because I want sense, I don't like android basic at all. They just need to speed up the software development department..
I LOVE HTC design & Hardware that's why I bought an HTC but I HATE sense (it has some good things though, but I think its overweight is not worth it) maybe they could allow more customization and allow download/enable only the things you like...
Back to the topic I don't think S4 version will be forgetted, S3 will only ship to some zones, but worldwide both versions will be present.
Sadly One S will not be as supported as One X, but it still will be supported quite a bit (and after we will still have custom ROMS )
MaiD450 said:
I LOVE HTC design & Hardware that's why I bought an HTC but I HATE sense (it has some good things though, but I think its overweight is not worth it) maybe they could allow more customization and allow download/enable only the things you like...
Back to the topic I don't think S4 version will be forgetted, S3 will only ship to some zones, but worldwide both versions will be present.
Sadly One S will not be as supported as One X, but it still will be supported quite a bit (and after we will still have custom ROMS )
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The problem with custom Roms is that with 2 versions of the one S ( s4 and s3 ) the diffusion of the device will be not uniform and we will have less development that own a specific version. Also custom ROMs need fresh drivers!!!
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light_n_roses said:
The problem with custom Roms is that with 2 versions of the one S ( s4 and s3 ) the diffusion of the device will be not uniform and we will have less development that own a specific version. Also custom ROMs need fresh drivers!!!
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I really doubt that will be less development, just give it a while for devs to get s3 roms running.
Anything is better than the what the amaze dev section has.
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If you check the Touch Button Issue thread (GSM 900/1800MHz) countries are affected only, no relevance to US) you will see various HTC statements that they work on a fix for that issue rolling out soon.
The quality of the statements rather sound like "Update" to me not fix. So it might mean a new RUU and include more fixes? *hope dies last*
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*hope dies last*
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Lol agreed, hopefully they'll roll other "fixes" in as well.
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I don't think we need to worry about updated for our phones. HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates. According to Google, handset makers have had their hands on Jelly Bean code for a while now. My guess is that HTC is already working on the Android 4.1 update and will try to get that out as soon as possible.
HTC may also push out a few smaller updated between now and then to resolve some of the issues that have been pointed out. The HTC one S is a flagship device. Support for the phone will not dwindle until HTC pushed out a newer handset.
nickmgray said:
I don't think we need to worry about updated for our phones. HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates. According to Google, handset makers have had their hands on Jelly Bean code for a while now. My guess is that HTC is already working on the Android 4.1 update and will try to get that out as soon as possible.
HTC may also push out a few smaller updated between now and then to resolve some of the issues that have been pointed out. The HTC one S is a flagship device. Support for the phone will not dwindle until HTC pushed out a newer handset.
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And a lot of the time, its T-Mobile who holds out on the update while they "double check" everything.
I know on the amaze we had a leaked Rom that was exactly the same as the ota almost a month before the official ota was put put by T-Mobile.
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TheEndHK said:
I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
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No... this is not possible...
I will wait one more month than I will come back with SAMSUNG!
More update, crash fix, NO S-OFF, more ROM...
The ONE S is an EXCELENT smartphone, I love it, but HTC release bug fix in too much time!!!!!
Take a look to SAMSUNG... why success?
Because SAMSUNG listen the users!
Since now for the GS3 there was released about 3 update to fix all the remaining bugs!
I love my HTC ONE S but the WEB BROWSER SUCK! The Gallery SUCK! The TREE DOT MENU' SUCK (sometime are nice but most of the time are unnecessary)...
nickmgray said:
HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates.
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...we are still waiting...
If u don't like it sell it don't make a rant on here
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xxquicksh0txx said:
Same here, I don't understand why people buy a HTC phone and then complain about sense.
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It's pretty simple, too...don't like Sense? So flash one of the many non-Sense ROMs (pun not intended)---CM9, for one...If you don't want to have to flash and you hate Sense, well THEN you probably bought the wrong phone.
As an aside, my brother got T-MO US to give him a FREE SGSIII yesterday with his 2 year upgrade (he only qualified for partial upgrade at the time). THAT is why I love T-Mobile...customer service can be very helpful and nice sometimes.
We got XDA....we fix our own bugs...HAHAHA
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The TREE DOT MENU' SUCK
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Welcome to ICS, 'tard.
your title is a little misleading

Is it worth to get LG P500?

Hey everyone,
i have an offer to change from SE x10 mini pro to LG P500 and i dont know if its worth it.
I have seen that LG P500 has 2.3 gingerbead update, how is it? aswel i heard it fixes the lag encountered in 2.2 version. Is it true that it fixes? how is overal the performance?
this is SE x10 mini pro http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10_mini_pro-3147.php
Best On Budget
newestuser said:
Hey everyone,
i have an offer to change from SE x10 mini pro to LG P500 and i dont know if its worth it.
I have seen that LG P500 has 2.3 gingerbead update, how is it? aswel i heard it fixes the lag encountered in 2.2 version. Is it true that it fixes? how is overal the performance?
this is SE x10 mini pro http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10_mini_pro-3147.php
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O1 is old Model
If you were on Budget within 12,000 best to buy Samsung Galaxy ace.
If you were on Budget above 12,000 best to buy SE xperia mini pro follow below link.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_mini_pro-3713.php
I say go for Lg p500 if you don't use camera that much else stick with mini pro!!
what about the lags ive heard that are on 2.2 ?
im not a camera man, for that i have camera
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what about the lags ive heard that are on 2.2 ?
im not a camera man, for that i have camera
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The lag is present on both 2.2. and 2.3(don't known about 4.x...), it's caused when you touch the screen, causing it to use 100% of cpu power, it's very noticeable when playing games.But we have wonderfull kernel developers that fixed it!(btw you would need to be a root user...)
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are there no official fixes?
i red somewhere that in 2.3 official firmware this was fixed.
No, thats what I was trying to say, official(2.2 and 2.3) with default kernel lags, but if you flash another kernel(non officiall of course) with a modified touchscreen driver it won't lag.All up to date kernel have touchfix
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The two phones are very similar, going to the p500 really wouldn't be much of an upgrade at all. I would personally recommend installing cyanogenmod on your current phone as it would run just as well if not better than the p500. Our phone is very old and has been eol for a while. The only advantage it has over yours is the battery, which is much bigger. If it's a free upgrade and you'll never be offered anything else ever again (it isn't some kind of points system with your carrier or something like that), or if your xperia is dying (battery won't hold a charge anymore etc) otherwise just save your money because they're very similar phones.
matrixrak said:
O1 is old Model
If you were on Budget within 12,000 best to buy Samsung Galaxy ace.
If you were on Budget above 12,000 best to buy SE xperia mini pro follow below link.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_mini_pro-3713.php
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no
get an armv7 phone now
FPChaim thanks
bluespoon4 its not an upgrade, its just like exchange. LG has a bigger screen and more ram plus official stock 2.3 firmware.
I tried few firmwares on x10 mini pro, honestly it doesnt beat stock rom and its stability...
Well i will pick up the phone tomorrow just for few days to test it and gonna see how it works (its aswel with fixed screen lag, but only 2.2 froyo)
Is there a link how to flash new kernel? does it require to unlock the bootloader?
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FPChaim thanks
bluespoon4 its not an upgrade, its just like exchange. LG has a bigger screen and more ram plus official stock 2.3 firmware.
I tried few firmwares on x10 mini pro, honestly it doesnt beat stock rom and its stability...
Well i will pick up the phone tomorrow just for few days to test it and gonna see how it works (its aswel with fixed screen lag, but only 2.2 froyo)
Is there a link how to flash new kernel? does it require to unlock the bootloader?
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i guess your phone is rooted or so....if not then pls atleast root your phone first... ... then to flash a kernel just install a recovery(links for them are also there... jus use search..) ...and download the kernel zip n flash......:fingers-crossed:
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FPChaim thanks
bluespoon4 its not an upgrade, its just like exchange. LG has a bigger screen and more ram plus official stock 2.3 firmware.
I tried few firmwares on x10 mini pro, honestly it doesnt beat stock rom and its stability...
Well i will pick up the phone tomorrow just for few days to test it and gonna see how it works (its aswel with fixed screen lag, but only 2.2 froyo)
Is there a link how to flash new kernel? does it require to unlock the bootloader?
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bootloader isn't locked
you flash new kernals the same way as roms
you go to recovery. install from sd, choose zip, clear cache, clear dalvik cache you are done
just try to smooth talk with the carrier guy to give you another device
I really suggest you upgrade to a newer phone, preferably one with atleast a one ghz processor because our phone is nearing death
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The two phones are very similar, going to the p500 really wouldn't be much of an upgrade at all. I would personally recommend installing cyanogenmod on your current phone as it would run just as well if not better than the p500. Our phone is very old and has been eol for a while. The only advantage it has over yours is the battery, which is much bigger. If it's a free upgrade and you'll never be offered anything else ever again (it isn't some kind of points system with your carrier or something like that), or if your xperia is dying (battery won't hold a charge anymore etc) otherwise just save your money because they're very similar phones.
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bootloader isn't locked
you flash new kernals the same way as roms
you go to recovery. install from sd, choose zip, clear cache, clear dalvik cache you are done
just try to smooth talk with the carrier guy to give you another device
I really suggest you upgrade to a newer phone, preferably one with atleast a one ghz processor because our phone is nearing death
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thanks
but why to get newer phone if i dont want to spend any money?
its a change with a friend not a carrier his phone is good condition so why not if i want a bigger screen and newer version of android (stable) and not going to spend money on new phone in upcoming year
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thanks
but why to get newer phone if i dont want to spend any money?
its a change with a friend not a carrier his phone is good condition so why not if i want a bigger screen and newer version of android (stable) and not going to spend money on new phone in upcoming year
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yeah. but if you get this phone, thendevelopment will be limited. half of everyone won't have an optimus one by december
lets face it, this phone has no future.
optimus one is defenitlybetter than the xperia x10 mini but both of these devices will be truly xda obselete by the end of this year
Edit: its ok. the world is going to end on Dec 22.
well yeah both will be obselete here, so if to choose from one better i think its not a bad choise LOL
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well yeah both will be obselete here, so if to choose from one better i think its not a bad choise LOL
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Go for O1 I always want to shift to a new phone but this O1 is always enough for me
If u don't want to spend money, then go ahead.
There are so many smooth ROMs and kernals with stunning performance.
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for me yes its worth it to get a Lg P500. :good:
ok so i have p500 for 3rd day and honestly, despite the fact that lg has better screen,more stable newer android, it doesnt fit if you text alot, No change.
LG p500 rocksss!
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Best Phones for Testing APKs?

We need to buy about 2 phones for testing some custom android apps we've built.
Does anyone have suggestions on what the best phones for testing would be?
I was thinking something with HTC sense on it, and something with stock android on it. Both need to be able to s-off and root easily.
erm... the google dev phones (nexus) ?? Personally I use galaxy nexus most for this kinda thing
For any kind of software testing, you need to know how it will function on both the latest and greatest devices, as well as the oldest hardware you intend to support.
I'd think for the price of two top-tier 2012 phones, you could buy 1 top of the line current phone, one from last year, and one from 2 years ago. Possibly also include Sense, Touchwiz and vanilla android.
Something running GB and something running ICS/JB. Many phones are still on GB so a used device running GB would be useful to test on.
Test it on emulator first?
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Test it on emulator first?
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Yes for sure it's the first thing to do,but not always if it works on emulator it will work on specific phone
Nexus one and galaxy nexus. Then you've got gingerbread and jellybean covered
If you need a newer phone for testing , the Galaxy Nexus is an obvious choice .
If you need a older phone ( old hardware ) to test yous apps , have a look at Nexus 1 or HTC Desire , it can run flawlessly 2.2 , 2.3 and 4.0.4 . I have a Desire on ICS ( BCM ) so I can tell .
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We need to buy about 2 phones for testing some custom android apps we've built.
Does anyone have suggestions on what the best phones for testing would be?
I was thinking something with HTC sense on it, and something with stock android on it. Both need to be able to s-off and root easily.
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HD2? ROMs range from Android 2.1-4.1 (AOSP, AOKP, CM), Sense 2.0-3.5 (one discontinued Sense 4 alpha), TouchWiz + GB, Xperia Arc GB, MIUI etc. It's also got similar specs to a low-range phone nowadays so that would be a good choice I think. In addition, a One X probably.
HTC One X?!
Samsung galaxy nexus
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Galaxy nexus its official hands down
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It seems it is indeed no contest there.
Does the Galaxy Nexus come with Sense by default? (It's been a while since I've looked into these. Last Android phone I owned was a droid bionic and before that the htc hero.)
We definitely are going to support gingerbread, so we'll need a little bit of an older phone too. I'm sure breaking it up like that into 3 or so phones is ok, as long as they fall under budget.
And yeah, the dev tests with emulators, but I'm QA on this project so I get to play with them real-world once he's done and find more bugs.
Nexus S and a Galaxy Nexus,
Will do the job well:thumbup:
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It seems it is indeed no contest there.
Does the Galaxy Nexus come with Sense by default? (It's been a while since I've looked into these. Last Android phone I owned was a droid bionic and before that the htc hero.)
We definitely are going to support gingerbread, so we'll need a little bit of an older phone too. I'm sure breaking it up like that into 3 or so phones is ok, as long as they fall under budget.
And yeah, the dev tests with emulators, but I'm QA on this project so I get to play with them real-world once he's done and find more bugs.
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GNex is a Nexus phone, so why would it come with Sense?
Anyway, the best choice is still the HD2 IMO. You can test it on all versions of Android from 2.1-4.1 and it's incredibly cheap, with specs which are not too bad (1GHz Snapdragon with 576MB RAM) for the price. If you can get the app to run smoothly on the HD2 the likelihood is that it will run on any newer phone.
IMHO you have yo use a stock device.. nexus as all the docs suggest. Custom ROMs have additions substitutions and tweaks that in a dev sense are not baseline. Although the differences are minimal or should be. Better to play safe. So nexus s and galaxy nexus.. Google provide stock ROMs for these in dev device downloads.
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Noted. Thanks.
And yeah, that's cool that some of these phones support plenty of roms, but I don't want to be flashing 3 different roms every time the dev iterates a new point (v.2) update. I'd rather have 2-3 phones ready to go. (seems lazy, but I've got a lot of other work to do to
We got a droid (motorola timestamp issues), a Galaxy Nexus, and an hd2. So the hd2 comes stock with windows mobile? This is strange to me.
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We got a droid (motorola timestamp issues), a Galaxy Nexus, and an hd2. So the hd2 comes stock with windows mobile? This is strange to me.
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Well, the hd2 does have a lot of support, but when the top threads in the device specific forum warn of how unstable and beta-ish android development is on this phone, then I'm not really as excited as I was. might end up returning this one.

[BOUNTY] Android Lollipop for the One X

I have been trying really hard to replace my One XL with a new Lollipop enabled phone, but have been hard pressed to find a replacement. the OPO is brilliant, but is a bit too big for me (though I might still cave in).
So, considering I am planning to stick with my One XL for sometime, I'm trying to see if we can get devs interested in porting Lollipop over. The biggest advantage that I'm looking for is performance and battery life boost - due to Volta and ART, which may extend the usefulness of the One XL considerably.
Why should you be excited for Lollipop on the One X
Material Design UI - http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
ART and Project Volta - http://www.latinpost.com/articles/16930/20140711/android-l-battery-life-glance-project-volta-art.htm
REQUIREMENTS:
Be the first person to create the following:
AOSP Android 5.0 OR Cyanogenmod 12 port OR Paranoid Android Lollipop port for the One XL
Voice+data (atleast HSDPA), Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC
ART instead of Dalvik
Project Volta enabled
Make a post in this thread with the following:
Proving it works with appropriate photos and/or screenshots
Providing full step-by-step instructions for which anyone else can follow
Confirmation from at least 2 persons on these forums that the ROM is working
Claim your bounty via PM from pledger(s)
Payment(s) will be processed between each member and the bounty collector via PM on an individual basis.
LIST OF PLEDGES
sandys1 - 10$
eyemyt - 15$.
obsidian_eclipse - 15$
I'm in. My pledge 15$.
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great to see the ball rolling !
Are bounties payable via PayPal? We all live in different countries and that would probably be the safest and most effective way of doing it.
If the above features can be worked in (im tempted to make it harder and say have Sense added to - because I like sense) then I'll add $15 to the sum so far.
An indication from a developer on the scale of the job and its setbacks, realism and expectations too would be appreciated early on.
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Are bounties payable via PayPal? We all live in different countries and that would probably be the safest and most effective way of doing it.
If the above features can be worked in (im tempted to make it harder and say have Sense added to - because I like sense) then I'll add $15 to the sum so far.
An indication from a developer on the scale of the job and its setbacks, realism and expectations too would be appreciated early on.
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IMHO Sense is closed source - what has happened till now is that binaries of Sense UI have been made to run on newer and newer Android versions (going to 4.3 I think). However, as the newer Android diverges from what was the original intended Android version (for Sense), it becomes harder and harder. I think Sense development has pretty much stagnated on the Evita because of this.
I would say it will be a little hard and unrealistic for Sense to be ported over as such - but I think you will love what Lollipop and Material Design UI has tooffer. If you have the change to spare, I think it would be a good bet !
Last time around (in the Evita bootloader unlock), we transferred the bounty using Paypal. I'm planning to do mine that way this time as well.
Take a look at http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
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IMHO Sense is closed source - what has happened till now is that binaries of Sense UI have been made to run on newer and newer Android versions (going to 4.3 I think). However, as the newer Android diverges from what was the original intended Android version (for Sense), it becomes harder and harder. I think Sense development has pretty much stagnated on the Evita because of this.
I would say it will be a little hard and unrealistic for Sense to be ported over as such - but I think you will love what Lollipop and Material Design UI has tooffer. If you have the change to spare, I think it would be a good bet !
Last time around (in the Evita bootloader unlock), we transferred the bounty using Paypal. I'm planning to do mine that way this time as well.
Take a look at http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
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You mean AOSP.
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You mean AOSP.
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Not sure what you mean. I was replying to the poster above who was asking for the possibility of Sense being ported to lollipop on this phone.
Ok lollipop does look pretty great sans sense so it sounds like a good investment, provided a reasonable time scale for it's production, so hopefully the pledges will come in.
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Not sure what you mean. I was replying to the poster above who was asking for the possibility of Sense being ported to lollipop on this phone.
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Oh yeah he did, my bad lol
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CM12 work has started - https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android/tree/cm-12.0 Now, it's upto a dev to volunteer for the evita!
Waiting for the good news.....
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Waiting for the good news.....
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this is not for the evita - this is for nexus 5 and newer variants. In fact if we do not convice someone to build a CM12 variant in time, our phone will be dropped from any nightly builds
http://www.landofdroid.com/2014/cm12-roadmap-leaked-exciting/
Device cutoff based on specifications. We expect 512mb devices to be fine, but the issue here will be GPU and non-Kitkat binaries. Expect a hard line here drawn in the sand with respect to device support. This will not be pretty for many older generation devices (pre-ICS).
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Which is why this bounty was created in hope of accelerating that development.
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this is not for the evita - this is for nexus 5 and newer variants. In fact if we do not convice someone to build a CM12 variant in time, our phone will be dropped from any nightly builds
http://www.landofdroid.com/2014/cm12-roadmap-leaked-exciting/
Which is why this bounty was created in hope of accelerating that development.
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Well psh, we're definitely not pre-ICS.
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I've always been of the opinion that HTC could have quite easily given us KitKat officially but they wanted to push people to upgrade unnecessarily. From the way lollipop sounds android promote it as being faster and more efficient than either KitKat or jellybean so if anything it should be pretty decent on our hardware.
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I've always been of the opinion that HTC could have quite easily given us KitKat officially but they wanted to push people to upgrade unnecessarily. From the way lollipop sounds android promote it as being faster and more efficient than either KitKat or jellybean so if anything it should be pretty decent on our hardware.
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You hit the nail right on the head there, that's exactly why they don't provide official updates. They're a business and profit is their bottom line. If they provide updates for older devices then the owners of those older devices have less reason to upgrade, less people upgrading means less profit for them.
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You hit the nail right on the head there, that's exactly why they don't provide official updates. They're a business and profit is their bottom line. If they provide updates for older devices then the owners of those older devices have less reason to upgrade, less people upgrading means less profit for them.
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Yeah but you'd think people will upgrade naturally because of better hardware and specs, etc.
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Yeah but you'd think people will upgrade naturally because of better hardware and specs, etc.
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Some do, but others are more focused on squeezing as much out of their current device as they can.
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Some do, but others are more focused on squeezing as much out of their current device as they can.
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Exactly, that's why I still have my HTC Inspire 4G, HTC One X, and my new LG G3. No sense in getting rid of the old ones when they work great with all of the ROM development that occurs! That old Inspire works great as a walkman while out in the mountains!
should just be happy with the kk roms and cm11 with gapps until something better comes out. I really like the 5.0 interface but it is really nothing ground breaking
Agreed...only thing to look to is if any real performance improvement....
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