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Is the Desire S the ugly sister?

Last year we had the Original Desire, it wasn't long before it was rooted and had plenty of support.
This year we had the Incredible S, The Desire S and the Sensation and its like the Desire S has been forgotten about.

I think it's because the phone is so similar to the incredible s with the incredible s being slightly better. Also by naming it desire s you expect it to carry on the legacy of the original desire which i don't think it pulled off that well.

dan-fish said:
I think it's because the phone is so similar to the incredible s with the incredible s being slightly better. Also by naming it desire s you expect it to carry on the legacy of the original desire which i don't think it pulled off that well.
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It didn't carry the legacy of the Desire at all, I'm regretting getting it, it is a fantastic phone but its never gonna get any decent level of support.

Spoke to someone in the trade.They think the desire s will be abandoned by htc meaning no support or updates.Its a major flop hence the cheap deals.They cant give them away.

Problem is it was released at the wrong time, there will be little to no support from hackers either I suspect.
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still a sick phone though.
prolly once the s-off-ing gets released, more people will develop/port to desire S.
my guess is most roms could be ported over easily to DS from IS and DHD

I wonder is the Incredible S having the same issues thanks to the Sensation? I think the Galaxy SII is the Desire of 2011, it'll be the one getting all the support I reckon.

I just hope it'll get S-Off'd so I can root my device
That's all and people are doing that
It's a mid-range phone, so most people will get it, but very little of the dev community on xda will get it unless they are trying to make major developments on it which sucks D:

Is HTC not supposed to be unlocking the boot loader? Or is this just going to be on new phones?

I thought it was just new phones.
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Phillmitchell said:
Spoke to someone in the trade.They think the desire s will be abandoned by htc meaning no support or updates.Its a major flop hence the cheap deals.They cant give them away.
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I doubt that very much. The Desire S is stable with no generic problems, updates to sense 3.0 will come in due course, it is something they are working on. Incredible S has not received any updates since the 2.3 update, while the Desire S launched with 2.3. I fail to understand what the fuss is all about

atomicsoul said:
I doubt that very much. The Desire S is stable with no generic problems, updates to sense 3.0 will come in due course, it is something they are working on. Incredible S has not received any updates since the 2.3 update, while the Desire S launched with 2.3. I fail to understand what the fuss is all about
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@others i am pretty sure the phone will get updates in the future...
& alpharevX team is working on software s-off & have succeeded they will release it in public soon...

Alsoo you can't say anything about it not getting updates no more
I recieved an OTA update just now (like literally 15 minutes ago) and all it adds is **** i don't want. (bloatware). Yayyyy
new software number now = 1.47.161.2

I, like others on this forum, don't really see what the problem is. I came from a Hero and got the Desire S based on its merits as a handset straight out of the box, not what it could be with rooting and modding. As a straight out of the box experience, I've been overjoyed with the performance, look 'n' feel and general use of this phone. I did pay to borrow an XTC clip and s-off'd it quite quickly and as a tinkering handset, it's even better. The important thing is I would have been happy with it as it was... the s-off and root just makes a great handset even greater
The recent (albiet buggy) ports of Miui and Gingerbread/CM7 are evidence that the Desire S has a rich and rommy future

I'm guessing that everyone posting in this thread has a Desire S in which case...
If as me you like the device (which was why I bought it in the first place) then great, I can't see any need to continue adding to this thread.
If you don't - then buy another device or IMO don't continue adding negative posts to threads like this that will mainly be read only by other Desire S owners. It's still too early to predict/guess the level of support the device will get in the future and as the last month should have shown us no-one can accurately predict what HTC will do!
We all have the device and probably will all have it for at least one year, in some cases maybe two so either way we'll have to live with. So let's at least try to be positive!

Best phone Iv had. Coming from the HD2, and more recently the Galaxy S2, I cam honestly say this phone is near perfect. I diched the Galaxy S2 in the end because the touchwiz was in my opinion behind the HTC sense interface. The S2 was buggy and battery life lousy. The des S's build quality it brilliant, has a really quality feel to it. The 3.7 inch screen is also just right.. Hits the sweetspot between portability and usability. Personally I feel the 4" plus screens make the handset to big... Feels like taking a step back. Sure, the S2s hardware beats the desires in everyway, but when it comes to usability.. The desire kills it. For starters, theres no lag when waking up the phone..shockingly there is with the s2 which boasts a dual core processor. To sum up, I feel that the desire s is an awesome handset, not the most powerful, but it's reliable, does the things you want it to and more outa the box..and once s-off'd and sense 3 components added, I feel the phones near perfect. If I had to suggest just one improvement, I'd say keep the phone exactly as it is..but add some dual core muscle.
There.. That's my two pence worth.

No phone will get manufacturer support for more than 18 months or so in the new retail world. As to whether enough modders buy it to make it better, I really don't care much. I'd like HTC to fix a few niggles, but basically that's about it. I don't particularly care if it is upgraded to Android 3.0 either.

I came from the original Desire which I rooted and tried numerous different roms infact I got addicted to flashing not one week would go past without me trying a new Rom
My main qualms with the desire were lack of internal memory and I couldn't wait for gingerbread and sense 2.1
Now the DS has all these features as standard and people are still not happy in time all the custom roms will come you will be able to root and be s-off I'm sure when the original desire came out all these didn't turn up over night
So people please be patient
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I feel that the Desire S is the most attractive HTC phone in general.

I agree, it's pretty looking, robust, not too big.

Will Sensation Get Ice Cream Sandwich?

Hi,
Going to upgrade from my Legend to a Sensation this weekend, just hoping someone could chime in, Was curious if Sensation will get an upgrade to Ice Cream when it comes out! Thanks!

Can't see any reason why not. We all got the latest Gingerbread update eventually, so I reckon there will be a phased release of ICS.

The Sensation absolutely should get ICS. Expect a slew of improvements with it too, especially true dual-core support and in general an OS that can match the hardware this phone has.

I did exactly the same upgrade as you and have not regretted my decision, In some way shape or form we WILL get ICS

Definitely must get, because there is an agreement between google and htc regarding os updates, i don't remember the period .
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Just the fact we are a dual core phone and ICS has true dual core support should mean we will get the update. Not that it really matters cause well get some 4.0 roms regardless.
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when the normal desire get gingerbread Sensation will ic

What can I expect to be different from the ics I've heard its like a link from our wonderful gingerbread to the 3.0 honeycomb os.
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nbochoa said:
What can I expect to be different from the ics I've heard its like a link from our wonderful gingerbread to the 3.0 honeycomb os.
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we just get happy with any update even its free update and have nothing inside

Well, we nearly had it sooner. There was a Nexus S that leaked out with ICS on it. It appears that Google remote wiped it before it could be extracted. The thread is on XDA somewhere.

nik.taylor said:
Well, we nearly had it sooner. There was a Nexus S that leaked out with ICS on it. It appears that Google remote wiped it before it could be extracted. The thread is on XDA somewhere.
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They can do that? That's a bit scary.

jooolio said:
Definitely must get, because there is an agreement between google and htc regarding os updates, i don't remember the period .
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18 month to be exactly!
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Of course we will receive it as of right now the sensation is htc flagship Not for long but it's still as the last generation of processor and don't forget Cyanogen 8... Yepp Christmas should be just fine!
Hi my name is DloBrown and Im A nightly addict who've been sober for too long!!!

What? Might as well wait till 10/12 get HTC Amaze! !!!
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aNYthing24 said:
They can do that? That's a bit scary.
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Im sure if they did in fact do that it was probably something built into that specific phones firmware because it was some form of prototype.

NICEGYPT said:
when the normal desire get gingerbread Sensation will ic
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Gingerbread has been available for the original Desire since August:
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-desire-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-released-20110801/

No...Just like Google can remotely remove applications from your device, they can remotely wipe any device...Each one of those Nexus S devices were normally accounted for...When that video leaked all they had to do was do a head count and see (for the sake of conversation we'll say prototype 7) Prototype 7 was missing and wipe it. They have all the information and all to lock it and also have it tied to admin permissions which we all can do on any device running 2.3. It was part of the Enterprise update for business on GB.
Will we get ICS?? I doubt anytime soon, as HTC takes forever embedding Sense into the damn framework and they will NEVER release a non Nexus device without Sense. So if we do you can bet your arse it will be at the most about April/May before we see it.

Freshly_Snipes said:
Will we get ICS?? I doubt anytime soon, as HTC takes forever embedding Sense into the damn framework and they will NEVER release a non Nexus device without Sense. So if we do you can bet your arse it will be at the most about April/May before we see it.
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I was thinking about this. Didn't they say that Google are responsible for OS updates from ICS and not the handset manufacturers as they got pissed with HTC/Samsung etc taking forever to release stuff?
So does that mean all phones released on ICS and beyond will be from Google or that they will have doen the testing and given to HTC to give to us mere mortals on decent Gingerbread phones? Who knows but i'm betting HTC screw us with at least a 6 month wait.

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Freshly_Snipes said:
No...Just like Google can remotely remove applications from your device, they can remotely wipe any device...Each one of those Nexus S devices were normally accounted for...When that video leaked all they had to do was do a head count and see (for the sake of conversation we'll say prototype 7) Prototype 7 was missing and wipe it. They have all the information and all to lock it and also have it tied to admin permissions which we all can do on any device running 2.3. It was part of the Enterprise update for business on GB.
Will we get ICS?? I doubt anytime soon, as HTC takes forever embedding Sense into the damn framework and they will NEVER release a non Nexus device without Sense. So if we do you can bet your arse it will be at the most about April/May before we see it.
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The G2 says hi.
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Judging from past experience, if you are asking for a official HTC ICS update for the Sensation, the answer is "very likely" but you probably have to wait a long time.
Typically, when a new version of Android is released, HTC wouldn't update its existing devices to the new version until a few months after it has shipped a whole line of new devices with the new Android version. And because of it having to port Sense over to the new Android build, it would also take HTC quite some time to come up with new devices for the new Android build.
But if you don't need Sense, you will surely get ICS on Sensation. I'm sure Cyanogenmod will be one of the earlier available and full-feature ICS roms. They release their version of Gingerbread for the Nexus One even before Google pushes stock Gingerbread to it.

android 4.0

Dont know if this is a dumb qustion but will android 4.0 be released for desire s?

This is what HTC had to say about the occasion:
"We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans."
Maybe yes, maybe not!

I also want to know.....pls cm will let it come true
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If not by HTC, then you most probably will find some ports or AOSP on Dev section.

If the only criterium they use is the technical capability of the phone (as they say they will) I would definitely say yes: the cpu can easily be overclocked to 1.2 gHz, and they recently published a phone (bliss) with identical characteristics as the desire s. I don't think that they are not going to provide an update for a device of about one month old.
On the other hand: many people will consider switching to a new device if they don't update it.
We'll just have to wait for an official statement, I'm afraid...

Looking forward to this coming out on our phones! Looks fantastic.

Call me cynical, but I can't see HTC releasing ICS on older devices where they perceive a possibility that the customer may buy a new device in order to upgrade.
The profit motive usually wins over all others!

Desire S isn't that old, it deserve to have ICS.
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ngek202 said:
Desire S isn't that old, it deserve to have ICS.
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Yea,desire s is young
And anyway the sensation will have ics so we ll also have our ics
With a port.i think desire s ll have android 4,it s an hight-end devices.if htc know how to build a rom we ll have our ics.
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The challenge is that we do have physical buttons, when ICS it is part of UI. That has to be taken into consideration.
Have no idea, how that will reflect in real life. For example, I do preffer deactivating physical buttons on Desire S and using UI, since I love it on my Tab.

As with all custom ROM scene, if there is not an official release, then this community will take the best/popular parts of ICS and blend them into existing builds, or port from the Nexus S entirely. (I like the idea of native photo correction software and face recognition security, both of which I already have with 3rd party apps.)
The problem is that Sense is so deeply integrated into the vanilla Android experience that HTC will look at the cost of brining that to devices that have already been paid for. They'll make a decision on whether or not it's worth spending time (and money) on doing this, or trying to dangle a new carrot in front of you to buy.
They will be well aware that those of us on XDA who are after the bleeding edge, are also able to put custom/ported ROMs on for free. This also relieves them of warranty responsibilities, and makes them less inclined to spend money developing an official update for our "older" handsets.
My view is that if we see ICS on our Desire S, it'll be an AOSP port from the Nexus S with maybe an official Sense release way down the line. Before then I'm sure someone will do an ICS-style launcher.
Just my thoughts.

Our device is not old.our desire is 400€ yet
And it s the top of the single core devices
I don t think an old device is 400€
Htc have to built an ics for us because this phone went out in april 2011 and i bought it for a lot of money xd
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kylon said:
Our device is not old.our desire is 400€ yet
And it s the top of the single core devices
I don t think an old device is 400€
Htc have to built an ics for us because this phone went out in april 2011 and i bought it for a lot of money xd
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+1 for you man!!!

What the future holds for the Desire S

Hey everyone. So I would like to bring you some discussion here about on what the future holds for our HTC Desire S when it respects to the official HTC support.
The main question here is, what do you think that HTC will do with the Desire S? Will they bring ICS to it? Will they try to be soft and bring just Sense 3.5? Or is our Desire S done and no more updates will come? It would be quite interesting to see what everyone thinks that may happen in the next few months

i doubt very much we will see anymore major official updates ,just maye a few revisions.htc support there phones pretty badly tbh,and as much as i love my desire s and this community i doubt very much i would purchase another one of the htc phones as it will carry on the same legacy i expect .

I think HTC will do nothing. They can't support all the phones they released which is why they've decided to take it slow
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I hope that HTC is still going to release an ICS update for Desire S, but that's probably false hope. HTC has released too many phones (about 5 different versions of the Sensation?) to provide support for every phone. They will just concentrate on the higher-end models, which unfortunately the Desire S isn't. Luckily there is a great community working hard to provide us with future updates

The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.

wnp_79 said:
The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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what he said..... hit the nail on the head with that one

Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
The only reason i recommended the xperia ray was because he HAS to have a Vodafone upgrade. Vodafone's stock ROM on the desire s has that ludicrous 'pocket mode' forced on, and you can't turn it off. 8 hours battery life max. My dad ended up sending his back for that reason. He wouldn't let me root it!
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
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No mate, I wasn't ranting at you
I was criticizing HTC for their poor decision. If the XL is getting ICS, we should get it. We have the same specs.
Heck, even the 2010 phone, Desire HD has near identical specs as the XL. Even that, should get ICS..
Silly move by HTC.
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olyloh6696 said:
Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.

smash_07 said:
HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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olyloh6696 said:
Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.

Dont know about you guys but HTC has always been keep-the-customer-in-dark with Desire S. IMHO I dont know why they do it... I mean it came with sense 2.1 and 2.3 when I bought. After a while some patches and fotas were there but when we got sense 3.0 it was some guys phone which got updated made the news not a disclosure or say news by HTC that its been updated and which makes my geeky mind cheer in the doubt of my mind that we may recieve ICS officially
Now about the thing that here are devs that are doing a hard job to get ICS on ours and imo they have been succesful as in there-was-no-way-but-they-did-it successful. But think if theres an official update what might happen then? I am no dev or **** but as I understand that would made works on other roms ports a heck lot easier...

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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
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Good explanation, but keep in mind, the Desire Z did not receive the official Sense 3.0 update.
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olyloh6696 said:
Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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This is pretty sad, if HTC won't upgrade our Desire S to ICS. I mean, Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup--and those have the same chipsets as our Desire S! SE's flagship for last year, the Xperia Arc, was launched around the same time frame as our Desire S, with virtually the same Qualcomm chipset. No way HTC can use that excuse, and they know it.
18 months is not yet up for this phone, so if Google is right, we should expect support/updates till around September or so of 2012. As much as I dislike Sense, HTC ought to be ashamed of itself if they won't give us ICS. I can imagine they're in a bind, because they are compelled to give us ICS, but don't want us playing around with the ICS'ed Sense 4.0 and would rather have us get newer, more expensive 4 inch slabs
Come on, HTC. Gain some goodwill among us. Roll out ICS and the latest Sense. You know it makes Sense

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Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup
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That's the way to go, but just as always magic will not happen and HTC Desire S probably will not get ICS update because of that politic, meanwhile Sony Ericsson goes more democratical way and releases updates for customers, not only "top list'' customers as HTC do. I respect HTC, but the point how they sorts updates by devices is to drastic, just too painful for user like us, who knows what their device is able to do, but they simply do not feed it. To be honest, if HTC Desire S will get official ICS update, then it will mean that HTC is changing their political statement and magic is happening.

You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?

rayulove69 said:
You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
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dude, our posts are from days before the leak came out
But thanks for the effort I guess there will hopefully be a strong future for us!

wnp_79 said:
The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"

Akishima said:
He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
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Well good news anyway:
HTC announced ICS officially for us!
YIPPEE!!!

[Petition] Fight to keep the HTC One S getting updates

First off, yes I know this is not the HTC One S forums. Let me explain my reasoning for posting this here
The HTC One S is part of our family of devices (which includes this device, the One S, Evo 4G LTE, and Incredible 4G LTE). Although it doesnt matter much in terms of Sense development, for AOSP development, this family of devices is the family that we share many files with, including kernel source releases and other files which make up the ROM such as proprietary files.
For AOSP devices, these files are essential in keeping our device up to date and running on the latest Android version. These files from Sense such as proprietary files are essential in this. Generally speaking, the latest version of these files is used in AOSP ROMs.
If the One S is kept alive, it will offer another device that we can grab these files from, if HTC decides to kill off our device and keep theirs, or visa versa. If they release 4.2.2 Sense for the One S first, then we can use those files from their release in ours. So if their device is kept alive, ours can be greatly affected by it as well.
tl;dr Their situation affects our device too, so sign this petition to help show HTC that the community wants the device to be supported.
Here is the petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-give-the-one-s-continued-support-like-the-one-x
P.S. to anyone who thinks that these petitions do nothing, I will point to the Desire HD (I believe? one of the desires) that had so much community support that HTC ended up releasing a firmware update for it through RUU to ICS specifically for developers and modders. HTC is listening.

Signed.
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Signed.
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Yuuuuuuup

rohan32 said:
First off, yes I know this is not the HTC One S forums. Let me explain my reasoning for posting this here
The HTC One S is part of our family of devices (which includes this device, the One S, Evo 4G LTE, and Incredible 4G LTE). Although it doesnt matter much in terms of Sense development, for AOSP development, this family of devices is the family that we share many files with, including kernel source releases and other files which make up the ROM such as proprietary files.
For AOSP devices, these files are essential in keeping our device up to date and running on the latest Android version. These files from Sense such as proprietary files are essential in this. Generally speaking, the latest version of these files is used in AOSP ROMs.
If the One S is kept alive, it will offer another device that we can grab these files from, if HTC decides to kill off our device and keep theirs, or visa versa. If they release 4.2.2 Sense for the One S first, then we can use those files from their release in ours. So if their device is kept alive, ours can be greatly affected by it as well.
tl;dr Their situation affects our device too, so sign this petition to help show HTC that the community wants the device to be supported.
Here is the petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-give-the-one-s-continued-support-like-the-one-x
P.S. to anyone who thinks that these petitions do nothing, I will point to the Desire HD (I believe? one of the desires) that had so much community support that HTC ended up releasing a firmware update for it through RUU to ICS specifically for developers and modders. HTC is listening.
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Thank you for spreading the word.

rohan32 said:
P.S. to anyone who thinks that these petitions do nothing, I will point to the Desire HD (I believe? one of the desires) that had so much community support that HTC ended up releasing a firmware update for it through RUU to ICS specifically for developers and modders. HTC is listening.
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The petition does work, I was the one that did the DHD one
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Signed.
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I see the trolls post is gone. I guess that little report button works well.
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Signed!

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Signed
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signed...
the sensation didn't get jellybean, but the galaxy s2 did.
however, the successor to the sensation (one s) not getting jellybean is beyond ridiculous.
((EDIT: ignore mistake, explained in next post))

I had a HTC Aria, HTC Inspire and an One X. The lack of support is a known issue with HTC. People will buy them no matter what. I think I'm done with them though. The build quality is phenomenal and on par with Moto I think (who also sucks at continuing updates). I am probably getting the Note 3 because Samsung is exceptional at continuing updates to their phones. And the 3gbs of ram is another huge factor
I don't hate HTC but I don't want to rely solely on XDA for my updates.
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raz0rf1sh said:
signed...
the sensation didn't get jellybean, but the galaxy s2 did.
however, the successor to the sensation (one s) not getting jellybean is beyond ridiculous.
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The One S has Jelly Bean, just not the latest version. In fact, 4.1 was released last July. My girlfriend and I didn't get it from Vodafone until December 25, and I've read that T-Mobile US users didn't get it until recently! That's dreadful, especially for a relatively new device like this.
I hope if the device is continued to be updated that the updates come a little quicker!

DylRicho said:
The One S has Jelly Bean, just not the latest version.
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oops, my bad, by updates, I also meant getting a UI update...
and even though the sensation did somewhat badly, at least it got a major update (2.3.4 to 4.0.3), and a newer version of sense (although not the lastest version available which was stupid!!)

raz0rf1sh said:
oops, my bad, by updates, I also meant getting a UI update...
and even though the sensation did somewhat badly, at least it got a major update (2.3.4 to 4.0.3), and a newer version of sense (although not the lastest version available which was stupid!!)
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You can blame HTC's 18-month update policy for that. Also something that they don't stick to, and now they're bringing out crappy devices like the Desire 200 to hopefully make up the revenue loss.
When will HTC realize that releasing 20 phones per year is a bad concept? Update the phones you've already released, dammit!

Signed! I didn't realize how much the One S meant to One X development. I hope it works!
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[I accidentally "thanked" a post about leaving HTC for Samsung. Oops]
Signed. This is a fantastic device with a fantastic community, really. I learned so much about android from the Evita. I hope we get enough signatures to save the One S.
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Thank you for your support.

Signed with a good reason! :good: