Hi,
Going to upgrade from my Legend to a Sensation this weekend, just hoping someone could chime in, Was curious if Sensation will get an upgrade to Ice Cream when it comes out! Thanks!
Can't see any reason why not. We all got the latest Gingerbread update eventually, so I reckon there will be a phased release of ICS.
The Sensation absolutely should get ICS. Expect a slew of improvements with it too, especially true dual-core support and in general an OS that can match the hardware this phone has.
I did exactly the same upgrade as you and have not regretted my decision, In some way shape or form we WILL get ICS
Definitely must get, because there is an agreement between google and htc regarding os updates, i don't remember the period .
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Just the fact we are a dual core phone and ICS has true dual core support should mean we will get the update. Not that it really matters cause well get some 4.0 roms regardless.
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when the normal desire get gingerbread Sensation will ic
What can I expect to be different from the ics I've heard its like a link from our wonderful gingerbread to the 3.0 honeycomb os.
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What can I expect to be different from the ics I've heard its like a link from our wonderful gingerbread to the 3.0 honeycomb os.
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we just get happy with any update even its free update and have nothing inside
Well, we nearly had it sooner. There was a Nexus S that leaked out with ICS on it. It appears that Google remote wiped it before it could be extracted. The thread is on XDA somewhere.
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Well, we nearly had it sooner. There was a Nexus S that leaked out with ICS on it. It appears that Google remote wiped it before it could be extracted. The thread is on XDA somewhere.
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They can do that? That's a bit scary.
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Definitely must get, because there is an agreement between google and htc regarding os updates, i don't remember the period .
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18 month to be exactly!
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Of course we will receive it as of right now the sensation is htc flagship Not for long but it's still as the last generation of processor and don't forget Cyanogen 8... Yepp Christmas should be just fine!
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What? Might as well wait till 10/12 get HTC Amaze! !!!
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They can do that? That's a bit scary.
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Im sure if they did in fact do that it was probably something built into that specific phones firmware because it was some form of prototype.
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when the normal desire get gingerbread Sensation will ic
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Gingerbread has been available for the original Desire since August:
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-desire-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-released-20110801/
No...Just like Google can remotely remove applications from your device, they can remotely wipe any device...Each one of those Nexus S devices were normally accounted for...When that video leaked all they had to do was do a head count and see (for the sake of conversation we'll say prototype 7) Prototype 7 was missing and wipe it. They have all the information and all to lock it and also have it tied to admin permissions which we all can do on any device running 2.3. It was part of the Enterprise update for business on GB.
Will we get ICS?? I doubt anytime soon, as HTC takes forever embedding Sense into the damn framework and they will NEVER release a non Nexus device without Sense. So if we do you can bet your arse it will be at the most about April/May before we see it.
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Will we get ICS?? I doubt anytime soon, as HTC takes forever embedding Sense into the damn framework and they will NEVER release a non Nexus device without Sense. So if we do you can bet your arse it will be at the most about April/May before we see it.
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I was thinking about this. Didn't they say that Google are responsible for OS updates from ICS and not the handset manufacturers as they got pissed with HTC/Samsung etc taking forever to release stuff?
So does that mean all phones released on ICS and beyond will be from Google or that they will have doen the testing and given to HTC to give to us mere mortals on decent Gingerbread phones? Who knows but i'm betting HTC screw us with at least a 6 month wait.
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No...Just like Google can remotely remove applications from your device, they can remotely wipe any device...Each one of those Nexus S devices were normally accounted for...When that video leaked all they had to do was do a head count and see (for the sake of conversation we'll say prototype 7) Prototype 7 was missing and wipe it. They have all the information and all to lock it and also have it tied to admin permissions which we all can do on any device running 2.3. It was part of the Enterprise update for business on GB.
Will we get ICS?? I doubt anytime soon, as HTC takes forever embedding Sense into the damn framework and they will NEVER release a non Nexus device without Sense. So if we do you can bet your arse it will be at the most about April/May before we see it.
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The G2 says hi.
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Judging from past experience, if you are asking for a official HTC ICS update for the Sensation, the answer is "very likely" but you probably have to wait a long time.
Typically, when a new version of Android is released, HTC wouldn't update its existing devices to the new version until a few months after it has shipped a whole line of new devices with the new Android version. And because of it having to port Sense over to the new Android build, it would also take HTC quite some time to come up with new devices for the new Android build.
But if you don't need Sense, you will surely get ICS on Sensation. I'm sure Cyanogenmod will be one of the earlier available and full-feature ICS roms. They release their version of Gingerbread for the Nexus One even before Google pushes stock Gingerbread to it.
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I'm curious, will the Sensation ever get ICS? I mean the device should be able to handle it right? It's not like its a lightweight contendor that can't hold its own with the "big boys".
I'm also not talking about ports but rather an actual release by HTC/Google?
I've read that ICS is supposed to "unite" all android phones under one OS so that it won't be staggered like it is now
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As soon as google makes the ics source public. The cm team will start working on cm8 which will definitely come out for the sensation
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It hasn't been confirmed but HTC has always been pretty good with their updates.
Well once we get ICS, HTC would probably have to make SENSE work on it ( cause we all know HTC doesn't want us using vanilla roms )
Even if the Sensation doesn't get ICS through an update someone will port the ROM to work with the phone anyway. So yes, in time we will get ICS no matter what.
Maybe stupid question, but what is the ICS?
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Maybe stupid question, but what is the ICS?
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Ice Cream Sandwich, the next version of Android.
If htc put gingerbread on the original desire, the sensation will definitely get ics. Once we are on the Cyanogenmod build tree there will be cm8
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Google announced at I/O that they were in agreement with certain partners that all future phones would be supported for 18 months after release, giving them updates as long as the phone can handle it. HTC was one of these partners.
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Google announced at I/O that they were in agreement with certain partners that all future phones would be supported for 18 months after release, giving them updates as long as the phone can handle it. HTC was one of these partners.
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Was the sensation released before or after this agreement?
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After it was made.
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Google announced at I/O that they were in agreement with certain partners that all future phones would be supported for 18 months after release, giving them updates as long as the phone can handle it. HTC was one of these partners.
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No further details nor any set in stone requirements were ever publicly released after the basic info about that agreement went public.
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If Google and/or HTC don't bring ics to sensation,someone will.
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If Google and/or HTC don't bring ics to sensation,someone will.
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That's true. But having the official one would save people a lot of trouble
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No one can really "confirm" whether or not we will ever be upgraded with an official version of the next version of android OS, but knowing HTCs track record to device support, there's a pretty good chance.
Either way though, htc loves throwing sense over everything anyway, so it's really not a big deal for me if they do. Right now we're using Gingerbread with a Sense overlay, if we get upgraded, we'll just be using ICS with a Sense overlay...not a totally huge difference in the eyes of the end user.
I would much rather see an ICS port on xda. It'll likely come out sooner, and, like pretty much everything else on xda, will run better than what HTC comes out with anyway.
To HTC's credit, their rom releases are pretty decent compared to their competitors. But yes, sense lengthens the release window and adds months to development.
The Sensation is practically guaranteed Ice Cream Sandwich, but it likely won't be updated for several months after its release.
There were very minimal visual updates between gingerbread and froyo so huge sense UI overhauls weren't needed (they basically just added functionality) if the ics updates are as huge as everyone believes and hopes I'm sure sense will also include a massive overhaul. (For example if the ics launcher includes the 'holographic' interface it would idiotic imho for HTC not include that in there updated sense launcher)
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ICS is supposed to be optimized for dual core use, as well, so I would think that would add a little more credence to the idea that the Sensation will get it.
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Google announced at I/O that they were in agreement with certain partners that all future phones would be supported for 18 months after release, giving them updates as long as the phone can handle it. HTC was one of these partners.
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I just bought a Sensation, and I hope they will port ICS, but my Tattoo is running Gingerbeard smoothly (no as smoothly as in the Sensation, but as smoothly as it runs donut) and it's not oficial, because officially "Tattoo can't handle Android 2.0".
Apologies if this has been posted but I have just seen that HTC has not mentioned the desire S in its list of devices to receive ICS. Whether this will be added later I'm not quite sure but for now it'll have to be custom roms I guess
HTC knows how excited our fans are to get their hands on Google's latest version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, so we're thrilled today to announce the first wave of HTC phones that will receive upgrades: We can confirm the brand new HTC Vivid is upgradeable to Ice Cream Sandwich. In addition, Ice Cream Sandwich is coming in early 2012 to a variety of devices including the HTC Sensation, HTC Sensation XL and HTC Sensation XE, as well as the HTC Rezound, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO Design 4G and HTC Amaze 4G through close integration with our carrier partners. We're continuing to assess our product portfolio, so stay tuned for more updates on device upgrades, timing and other details about HTC and Ice Cream Sandwich.
NOTE: THIS DOES NOT EXCLUDE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE DESIRE S RECEIVING ICE CREAM SANDWICH
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Apologies if this has been posted but I have just seen that HTC has not mentioned the desire S in its list of devices to receive ICS. Whether this will be added later I'm not quite sure but for now it'll have to be custom roms I guess
HTC knows how excited our fans are to get their hands on Google's latest version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, so we're thrilled today to announce the first wave of HTC phones that will receive upgrades: We can confirm the brand new HTC Vivid is upgradeable to Ice Cream Sandwich. In addition, Ice Cream Sandwich is coming in early 2012 to a variety of devices including the HTC Sensation, HTC Sensation XL and HTC Sensation XE, as well as the HTC Rezound, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO Design 4G and HTC Amaze 4G through close integration with our carrier partners. We're continuing to assess our product portfolio, so stay tuned for more updates on device upgrades, timing and other details about HTC and Ice Cream Sandwich.
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well DS is not on HTC unlock list too but works...If HTC Sensation receive ICS we will have quality port i'm sure but lets hope that we will get official version too
It says in its 1st wave ,doesn't say that's all that will get ICS
I personally think that we will get it as the DS can handle it, plus thats not every device that is getting it.
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That's why I said I'm not sure whether more devices will be added. I probably should've been a little clearer in the title.
I shall amend it
I just figured this was worth mentioning
Besides who knows how long we'll have to wait for an official release
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Honestly.. I can't see a HTC update to Ice Cream sandwich giving us much more than we already have because they'll overwrite most of the improvements with the Sense bloat. (Don't get me wrong, Sense adds something, but ICS appears to have more improvements on top of that)
We already have CyanogenMod, so it'll just be a case of waiting until the source is out and it's merged with the CM repos and we can install nighties, and off we go!
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Honestly.. I can't see a HTC update to Ice Cream sandwich giving us much more than we already have because they'll overwrite most of the improvements with the Sense bloat. (Don't get me wrong, Sense adds something, but ICS appears to have more improvements on top of that)
We already have CyanogenMod, so it'll just be a case of waiting until the source is out and it's merged with the CM repos and we can install nighties, and off we go!
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I'm def in the Sense camp so it will be interesting to see what they come up with
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That's why I said I'm not sure whether more devices will be added. I probably should've been a little clearer in the title.
I shall amend it
I just figured this was worth mentioning
Besides who knows how long we'll have to wait for an official release
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Sorry Dan didn't mean to sound narky, and yeah hell will probably freeze over before they get around to releasing it 'officially' to us
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I'm def in the Sense camp so it will be interesting to see what they come up with
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Sorry Dan didn't mean to sound narky, and yeah hell will probably freeze over before they get around to releasing it 'officially' to us
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It's cool. I made it sound like there was no chance of the DS receiving it so i kinda deserved it
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HTC have to provide an ICS update to the desire S otherwise they will be breaching Google's update policy/ anti fragmentation initiative. These state that all android handset manufactures who release a phone anytime from Q2 2011 onwards MUST guarantee that they they provide updates to the latest version of android for the first 18 months frmo the release date of the phone. Members of the Open Handset Alliance (which HTC is a member) all had to agree on this to google. Desire S was released in April 2011, that means it fits into the Q2 section.
Whaaaaat?
They are crazy!!!!!!!!!!
They HAVE TO update our device.
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It's too early to tell. Who knows. lol
http://www.engadget.com/updates/which-devices-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
Wait & see. Maybe the second wave.
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So the HTC Evo Design 4G is supported with its 1.2Ghz cpu.
I believe the devs can port it from there to nearly every 2010 phone from Htc (except the really low ends; like Wildfire, Salsa and Chacha)
I really don´t see how that 200Mhz should make the difference between an HTC approved Android Experience and a sluggish Custom Rom.
I wonder if a tweaked DHD with ~1.8Ghz will beat any of the new devices on Stock-Ics.
Damn. I want ICs + sennse .
Sad to say, I don't think we will get it
However they did say they will support phone with updates 18 months upon release date.
Theoretically they should release this for the Wildfire/chacha/salsa too...
I how HTC doesn't let us down!
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I don't think HTC would leave the device without even one single update.
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I don't think HTC would leave the device without even one single update.
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We got an update. We got Sense 3.0
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We got an update. We got Sense 3.0
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Exactly... So I doubt we will get another update now hopefully HTC change their mind like they did about sense 3.0 only being dual core supported ...
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Exactly... So I doubt we will get another update now
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We shouldn't jump to any conclusions, but if this is the case then after only six months they affectively abandoned software updates for the Desire S. That would be a disgrace.
The problem with HTC is, as good as their phones are, they're over-saturating the market with too many handsets (from an update point of view).
Anyway, I guess we won't know until the next "wave" is announced.
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We shouldn't jump to any conclusions, but if this is the case then after only six months they affectively abandoned software updates for the Desire S. That would be a disgrace.
The problem with HTC is, as good as their phones are, they're over-saturating the market with too many handsets (from an update point of view).
Anyway, I guess we won't know until the next "wave" is announced.
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I agree - they have far too many phones on the market now ..
It makes it much harder for them to keep up with updates faster than they are making the phones !
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hope that they will update us asap that "first wave" and stay tuned sounds like there's a chance that we will see ICS if I'm not wrong nexus s has similar spec 1ghz and smaller RAM (don't know much about differences in chip's and graphs) but hope to see sum ICS on our desires s cheers
Hey everyone. So I would like to bring you some discussion here about on what the future holds for our HTC Desire S when it respects to the official HTC support.
The main question here is, what do you think that HTC will do with the Desire S? Will they bring ICS to it? Will they try to be soft and bring just Sense 3.5? Or is our Desire S done and no more updates will come? It would be quite interesting to see what everyone thinks that may happen in the next few months
i doubt very much we will see anymore major official updates ,just maye a few revisions.htc support there phones pretty badly tbh,and as much as i love my desire s and this community i doubt very much i would purchase another one of the htc phones as it will carry on the same legacy i expect .
I think HTC will do nothing. They can't support all the phones they released which is why they've decided to take it slow
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I hope that HTC is still going to release an ICS update for Desire S, but that's probably false hope. HTC has released too many phones (about 5 different versions of the Sensation?) to provide support for every phone. They will just concentrate on the higher-end models, which unfortunately the Desire S isn't. Luckily there is a great community working hard to provide us with future updates
The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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what he said..... hit the nail on the head with that one
Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
The only reason i recommended the xperia ray was because he HAS to have a Vodafone upgrade. Vodafone's stock ROM on the desire s has that ludicrous 'pocket mode' forced on, and you can't turn it off. 8 hours battery life max. My dad ended up sending his back for that reason. He wouldn't let me root it!
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
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No mate, I wasn't ranting at you
I was criticizing HTC for their poor decision. If the XL is getting ICS, we should get it. We have the same specs.
Heck, even the 2010 phone, Desire HD has near identical specs as the XL. Even that, should get ICS..
Silly move by HTC.
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Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
Dont know about you guys but HTC has always been keep-the-customer-in-dark with Desire S. IMHO I dont know why they do it... I mean it came with sense 2.1 and 2.3 when I bought. After a while some patches and fotas were there but when we got sense 3.0 it was some guys phone which got updated made the news not a disclosure or say news by HTC that its been updated and which makes my geeky mind cheer in the doubt of my mind that we may recieve ICS officially
Now about the thing that here are devs that are doing a hard job to get ICS on ours and imo they have been succesful as in there-was-no-way-but-they-did-it successful. But think if theres an official update what might happen then? I am no dev or **** but as I understand that would made works on other roms ports a heck lot easier...
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
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Good explanation, but keep in mind, the Desire Z did not receive the official Sense 3.0 update.
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olyloh6696 said:
Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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This is pretty sad, if HTC won't upgrade our Desire S to ICS. I mean, Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup--and those have the same chipsets as our Desire S! SE's flagship for last year, the Xperia Arc, was launched around the same time frame as our Desire S, with virtually the same Qualcomm chipset. No way HTC can use that excuse, and they know it.
18 months is not yet up for this phone, so if Google is right, we should expect support/updates till around September or so of 2012. As much as I dislike Sense, HTC ought to be ashamed of itself if they won't give us ICS. I can imagine they're in a bind, because they are compelled to give us ICS, but don't want us playing around with the ICS'ed Sense 4.0 and would rather have us get newer, more expensive 4 inch slabs
Come on, HTC. Gain some goodwill among us. Roll out ICS and the latest Sense. You know it makes Sense
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Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup
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That's the way to go, but just as always magic will not happen and HTC Desire S probably will not get ICS update because of that politic, meanwhile Sony Ericsson goes more democratical way and releases updates for customers, not only "top list'' customers as HTC do. I respect HTC, but the point how they sorts updates by devices is to drastic, just too painful for user like us, who knows what their device is able to do, but they simply do not feed it. To be honest, if HTC Desire S will get official ICS update, then it will mean that HTC is changing their political statement and magic is happening.
You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
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You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
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dude, our posts are from days before the leak came out
But thanks for the effort I guess there will hopefully be a strong future for us!
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The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
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He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
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Well good news anyway:
HTC announced ICS officially for us!
YIPPEE!!!
https://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/10150762287733084
Update on Android Ice Cream Sandwich upgrades
by HTC on Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 5:04pm ·
HTC has been working hard to get its Ice Cream Sandwich upgrades ready, and we’re excited to announce that our first round of ICS upgrades will roll out by the end of March for the HTC Sensation, HTC Sensation 4G and HTC Sensation XE, followed soon there after by the HTC Sensation XL.
In addition, we can confirm Ice Cream Sandwich upgrades will be coming later this year to the HTC Rezound, HTC Vivid, HTC Amaze 4G, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO Design 4G, HTC Incredible S, HTC Desire S and HTC Desire HD. Stay tuned for more updates on Ice Cream Sandwich releases in the coming weeks.
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This may have just been added to Facebook but if you had scrolled down you would've seen this has already been posted.
At least it's confirmed now
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yep! true.
later this year (
YES!
I TAKE back ALL I *****ed about HTC earlier
Thank you!!
I can't wait for the custom ROM fun to begin all over again!
Now we no longer need to rely on the XL ports!
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WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so happy right now. Saw the post on twitter and went crazy. After faulty eMMC's, locked bootloaders and no updates, i was thinking of going samsung next time. Not gonna happen.
HTC, learning from their mistakes.
EDIT: Just read that the Sensation will get it by the end of march, and the XL soon after. Then, probably the Evo 3D will follow. Our device should be the first among single core family (DHD and IS, not Sensation XL) to get the update, like it got the 2.3.5 Sense 3 update. I believe it would be close to late April/early, May. So it's gonna be quite a long wait. But better late than never
I'm amazed...... Wow, never expected this! Glad its confirmed.
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WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so happy right now. Saw the post on twitter and went crazy. After faulty eMMC's, locked bootloaders and no updates, i was thinking of going samsung next time. Not gonna happen.
HTC, learning from their mistakes.
EDIT: Just read that the Sensation will get it by the end of march, and the XL soon after. Then, probably the Evo 3D will follow. Our device should be the first among single core family (DHD and IS, not Sensation XL) to get the update, like it got the 2.3.5 Sense 3 update. I believe it would be close to late April/early, May. So it's gonna be quite a long wait. But better late than never
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Seems a long way off, but like you say, better late than never
I'm sure there will be a leaked ROM for the us, DHD, IS, XL, and it could be easily ported
THing is, it won't ship with Sense 4.0, but instead 3.6
Bit sad....
It's kind of like the original Desire upgrade. It got the Gingerbread update, but HTC chose not to update the Sense version to 2.1.. THey kept the old version (Maybe because of internal memory issues?)
THat was kind of a rubbish update IMO.
Hopefully our update turns out to be good!
We really don't need to care of Sense 3.6 or 4.0. Even the update isn't important. What's important is the kernel 3.0 that will accompany it, and it's source. After that, a Sense 4 port should be easy. It'll be just like what we have now - official Sense 3 and ported Sense 3.5, both on Android 2.3.5
Maybe we get lucky and get Sense 4 right away, who knows. All i know is, HTC won my loyalty with this.
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We really don't need to care of Sense 3.6 or 4.0. Even the update isn't important. What's important is the kernel 3.0 that will accompany it, and it's source. After that, a Sense 4 port should be easy. It'll be just like what we have now - official Sense 3 and ported Sense 3.5, both on Android 2.3.5
Maybe we get lucky and get Sense 4 right away, who knows. All i know is, HTC won my loyalty with this.
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Yeah
Thats the main reason I'm happy too
I have no intentions of using the official update itself. I'm just interested in getting the base for this ROM & the kernel source. From there devs can tweak the base (Lowveld ) And the ROM will be much better
Hopefully HTC still release a WVGA device that will come with Sense 4.0 (although it seems unlikely)
Because the ROM will need resizing the images etc, which is not a easy and perfect job.
Virtuous Unity was a great job by the team, they resized the Sensations qHD Sense to work on our device. But unfortunately it still had flaws, inconsistent size issues, & wasn't as fast as the WVGA version we have now...
Anyway, enough of my rambling, I'm really happy with HTC's decision! They are even supporting the DHD which is a 2 year old phone.
Seriously, that device is lucky! It went from 2.2 + Sense 2.0 > 2.3.3 + Sense 2.1 > 2.3.5 + Sense 3.0 > 4.0.X + Sense 3.6/4.0
2 major OS updates and 3 major Sense updates! Thats as good as Apple with their iPhone 3GS updates!
One thing i did notice, was they haven't announced any plans to upgrade the HTC Flyer to ICS...
I was considering buying one if it did get the update officially
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This may have just been added to Facebook but if you had scrolled down you would've seen this has already been posted.
At least it's confirmed now
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i know it was already posted,but this is the first htc themselves have said on it rather than some random website.so this deserved its own thread
Crazy news. Keeping my desire s a tad longer then...
I also think this is great news, as I am not much for rooting and doing stuff to my phone. And better late than never.
BUT I think the main problem is that all the big phone producers have their own UIs on top of Android, meaning that we never get the updates OR really really late.
If they just would let google control updates, then all users would have ICS already on their phone regardless of brand and phone (overseeing old phones that cannot handle the new software).
I know that the big companies need to differentiate themselves from each other.. but still, just what I would prefer.
Waiting for HTC Sense on ICS
I dont know about you guys but I am pretty happy with HTC Sense and would love to have an ICS rom with Sense. Will wait for the update from HTC to try out ICS on my Desire S.
I just got a good reason to keep my desire s for another 6 months.
That guy who came out earlier and say he believes all the phones running gingerbread should be able to run ICS was right after all.
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Updated news:
I can't post links but go to blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
b1nar10s said:
Updated news:
I can't post links but go to blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
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I can't see any relevant information regarding the Desire S in this so-called "update".
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b1nar10s said:
Updated news:
I can't post links but go to blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
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Absolutely not relevant
Sent by my fingers to your head.
Actually, this was relevant, but a month ago. Now, everything you will see about the update in the General section will be re-posts or "information leaks on ETAs" from highly unreliable sources. The update is close, it'll be here in April and as soon as it comes, there will be a post with a download link in the DEV section
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The update is close, it'll be here in April and as soon as it comes, there will be a post with a download link in the DEV section
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There are no leaks - so I fear that the update is far away.
in former times the ROMs always "leaked" (aka ROM for beta testers) 1 month before the official releases...
Hi there !
I have an EURO S4 htc one S and since there are 2 version of this phone ( the S4 cpu and the S3 cpu ) I'm starting to be a little concerned about updates as it's been a while since the last one.
Actually I'm still on 1.78 because 1.84 cames out just for the US t-mobile version and there are a list of bug that I would like to see fixed from htc.
1) meteo app and meteo widget works bad ( lag, crash ecc )
2) 3G isn't working sometimes even if the phone show the signal ( problem from early days )
3) Browser performance are not that great expecially now that I have some apps installed
4) live meteo background isn't working
5) also with 1.78 quadrant show a worst benchmarsk result of about 700 points!!
6) sense crash sometimes
So there are a lot of things to be fixed here and there, and as I have paid this phone a lot of money I would like to receive a decent support!!
yes, the update speed is slow like hell with only S4 and don't mention there is one more S3 now, the speed will be even slower. I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
TheEndHK said:
yes, the update speed is slow like hell with only S4 and don't mention there is one more S3 now, the speed will be even slower. I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
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Wait the TMo One S is in a different update channel so it may recieve different updates to the Euro/WWE One S. It's a "flagship" device so it should get updates (including Jelly Bean)
First of all they should end with all that silly "sense" stuff and also messing with android itself. I also have Nexus S and despite the fact that it's quite old device and dosn't run so smooth anymore, I have no problems. And I guess that this is because it uses vanilla android, not some screwed up stuff from HTC or Samsung.
HTC makes great phones in terms of hardware, but they should abondon their crapware or deliver it as an addition to android, not replacement of it's essential parts.
This is my personal view, I never liked Sense (it made sense for Windows Mobile) but i like HTC phones.
Matter of opinion I love sense over vanilla
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k1llacanon said:
Matter of opinion I love sense over vanilla
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Same here, I don't understand why people buy a HTC phone and then complain about sense.
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emdzej said:
First of all they should end with all that silly "sense" stuff and also messing with android itself. I also have Nexus S and despite the fact that it's quite old device and dosn't run so smooth anymore, I have no problems. And I guess that this is because it uses vanilla android, not some screwed up stuff from HTC or Samsung.
HTC makes great phones in terms of hardware, but they should abondon their crapware or deliver it as an addition to android, not replacement of it's essential parts.
This is my personal view, I never liked Sense (it made sense for Windows Mobile) but i like HTC phones.
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completly disagree, I buy HTC because I want sense, I don't like android basic at all. They just need to speed up the software development department..
I LOVE HTC design & Hardware that's why I bought an HTC but I HATE sense (it has some good things though, but I think its overweight is not worth it) maybe they could allow more customization and allow download/enable only the things you like...
Back to the topic I don't think S4 version will be forgetted, S3 will only ship to some zones, but worldwide both versions will be present.
Sadly One S will not be as supported as One X, but it still will be supported quite a bit (and after we will still have custom ROMS )
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I LOVE HTC design & Hardware that's why I bought an HTC but I HATE sense (it has some good things though, but I think its overweight is not worth it) maybe they could allow more customization and allow download/enable only the things you like...
Back to the topic I don't think S4 version will be forgetted, S3 will only ship to some zones, but worldwide both versions will be present.
Sadly One S will not be as supported as One X, but it still will be supported quite a bit (and after we will still have custom ROMS )
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The problem with custom Roms is that with 2 versions of the one S ( s4 and s3 ) the diffusion of the device will be not uniform and we will have less development that own a specific version. Also custom ROMs need fresh drivers!!!
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light_n_roses said:
The problem with custom Roms is that with 2 versions of the one S ( s4 and s3 ) the diffusion of the device will be not uniform and we will have less development that own a specific version. Also custom ROMs need fresh drivers!!!
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I really doubt that will be less development, just give it a while for devs to get s3 roms running.
Anything is better than the what the amaze dev section has.
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If you check the Touch Button Issue thread (GSM 900/1800MHz) countries are affected only, no relevance to US) you will see various HTC statements that they work on a fix for that issue rolling out soon.
The quality of the statements rather sound like "Update" to me not fix. So it might mean a new RUU and include more fixes? *hope dies last*
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*hope dies last*
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Lol agreed, hopefully they'll roll other "fixes" in as well.
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I don't think we need to worry about updated for our phones. HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates. According to Google, handset makers have had their hands on Jelly Bean code for a while now. My guess is that HTC is already working on the Android 4.1 update and will try to get that out as soon as possible.
HTC may also push out a few smaller updated between now and then to resolve some of the issues that have been pointed out. The HTC one S is a flagship device. Support for the phone will not dwindle until HTC pushed out a newer handset.
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I don't think we need to worry about updated for our phones. HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates. According to Google, handset makers have had their hands on Jelly Bean code for a while now. My guess is that HTC is already working on the Android 4.1 update and will try to get that out as soon as possible.
HTC may also push out a few smaller updated between now and then to resolve some of the issues that have been pointed out. The HTC one S is a flagship device. Support for the phone will not dwindle until HTC pushed out a newer handset.
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And a lot of the time, its T-Mobile who holds out on the update while they "double check" everything.
I know on the amaze we had a leaked Rom that was exactly the same as the ota almost a month before the official ota was put put by T-Mobile.
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I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
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No... this is not possible...
I will wait one more month than I will come back with SAMSUNG!
More update, crash fix, NO S-OFF, more ROM...
The ONE S is an EXCELENT smartphone, I love it, but HTC release bug fix in too much time!!!!!
Take a look to SAMSUNG... why success?
Because SAMSUNG listen the users!
Since now for the GS3 there was released about 3 update to fix all the remaining bugs!
I love my HTC ONE S but the WEB BROWSER SUCK! The Gallery SUCK! The TREE DOT MENU' SUCK (sometime are nice but most of the time are unnecessary)...
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HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates.
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...we are still waiting...
If u don't like it sell it don't make a rant on here
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xxquicksh0txx said:
Same here, I don't understand why people buy a HTC phone and then complain about sense.
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It's pretty simple, too...don't like Sense? So flash one of the many non-Sense ROMs (pun not intended)---CM9, for one...If you don't want to have to flash and you hate Sense, well THEN you probably bought the wrong phone.
As an aside, my brother got T-MO US to give him a FREE SGSIII yesterday with his 2 year upgrade (he only qualified for partial upgrade at the time). THAT is why I love T-Mobile...customer service can be very helpful and nice sometimes.
We got XDA....we fix our own bugs...HAHAHA
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Skyman1 said:
The TREE DOT MENU' SUCK
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Welcome to ICS, 'tard.
your title is a little misleading