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CM7 compatible?

Any chance of running a vanilla version of gingerbread?

r_3 said:
Any chance of running a vanilla version of gingerbread?
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Once HTC releases the kernel source code for the Inspire, then the work on a CM 7 compatible kernel can begin.

If you want to play around with it, you can install the DHD version. It runs quite well besides having no audio. The source code is needed to build a kernel that supports the inspires audio.

tpbklake said:
Once HTC releases the kernel source code for the Inspire, then the work on a CM 7 compatible kernel can begin.
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How long after releasing a device is the manufacturer supposed to release the source code? I'm not too familiar with the whole open source thing

HTC is quite good about it. Usually a couple of weeks or so.

JaysFreaky said:
HTC is quite good about it. Usually a couple of weeks or so.
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Ahh cool, hopefully sooner than later xD I haven't had any Cyanogen love since my Nexus One

r34p3rex said:
Ahh cool, hopefully sooner than later xD I haven't had any Cyanogen love since my Nexus One
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Yeah I hear you. I've never had a device that was really supported (loaded it on my Streak, but next to nothing worked). I've always flashed my friends devices with it and I'm quite jealous. lol
Good news is that they plan to support it. If you go to their forums they've added the Inspire to the Desire HD.

This is great news I have also installed a ton of cm7 on all of my buddies phones and can't wait to actually run it myself.
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tpbklake said:
Once HTC releases the kernel source code for the Inspire, then the work on a CM 7 compatible kernel can begin.
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What is it that htc does or doesn't do that makes so many of its phones compatible with cm? Or does the cm crew simply prefer to support htc phones compared to others?

peachpuff said:
What is it that htc does or doesn't do that makes so many of its phones compatible with cm? Or does the cm crew simply prefer to support htc phones compared to others?
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well, for starters, they use the standard mtd partition layout (unlike Samsung who uses bml) which means the "fastboot" commands can work. on top of that, their devices are also usually extraordinarily similar between generations which leads to most of the exploits and such working on multiple phones. so you have a LARGE number of devices being worked on by a LARGE number of developers with extreme similarities. this leads to a lot of tools working on multiple devices (the Inspire is actually a good example of this, seeing as how it's basically a Desire HD... it's even got the Ace codename--same as the Desire HD) which makes the rapid pace of development understandable.
Add to the fact that htc and tmobile (who had the first android phone which also happened to be htc) both encourage this "hobbyist" attitude from the developer community on non-dev phones (all dev phones were htc until the Neuxs S... G1/ADP, Magic/Ion, Nexus One... and they are almost entirely open source from my understanding) to both encourage people to buy their phones and also to ENJOY their phones. HTC provides software they consider to be the best "overall user experience" and I think that means they provide android (usually with Sense UI) so that it will appeal to the widest range of people. But then there are people who want that vanilla UI without buying the dev phone (such as myself and possibly you) and I'm betting htc doesn't want to actively discourage people having this option because it means improved sales from the hobbyist community. Now I have no inside info, but I'm sure the only exploits and such that they patch are security vulnerabilities (which are the ones exploited to get root). htc even fixed cyanogen's personal Nexus One due to a faulty power button even though his "hackery" voids the warranty. Tmobile provided/collaborated with cyanogenmod with the theme-ing engine for CM7. This history of collaboration between google, htc, tmobile, and the developer community has led to strong ties and familiarity with the platform.
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tmobile likes having the developers on their service because it means more subscribers; htc likely wants to appeal to both the average consumer and the developers so offers an out of the box experience that most can enjoy (Sense) but doesn't actively try to discourage developers.

Kaik541 said:
well, for starters, they use the standard mtd partition layout (unlike Samsung who uses bml) which means the "fastboot" commands can work. on top of that, their devices are also usually extraordinarily similar between generations which leads to most of the exploits and such working on multiple phones. so you have a LARGE number of devices being worked on by a LARGE number of developers with extreme similarities. this leads to a lot of tools working on multiple devices (the Inspire is actually a good example of this, seeing as how it's basically a Desire HD... it's even got the Ace codename--same as the Desire HD) which makes the rapid pace of development understandable.
Add to the fact that htc and tmobile (who had the first android phone which also happened to be htc) both encourage this "hobbyist" attitude from the developer community on non-dev phones (all dev phones were htc until the Neuxs S... G1/ADP, Magic/Ion, Nexus One... and they are almost entirely open source from my understanding) to both encourage people to buy their phones and also to ENJOY their phones. HTC provides software they consider to be the best "overall user experience" and I think that means they provide android (usually with Sense UI) so that it will appeal to the widest range of people. But then there are people who want that vanilla UI without buying the dev phone (such as myself and possibly you) and I'm betting htc doesn't want to actively discourage people having this option because it means improved sales from the hobbyist community. Now I have no inside info, but I'm sure the only exploits and such that they patch are security vulnerabilities (which are the ones exploited to get root). htc even fixed cyanogen's personal Nexus One due to a faulty power button even though his "hackery" voids the warranty. Tmobile provided/collaborated with cyanogenmod with the theme-ing engine for CM7. This history of collaboration between google, htc, tmobile, and the developer community has led to strong ties and familiarity with the platform.
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tmobile likes having the developers on their service because it means more subscribers; htc likely wants to appeal to both the average consumer and the developers so offers an out of the box experience that most can enjoy (Sense) but doesn't actively try to discourage developers.
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And this is why HTC is full of win
If only the Inspire had a front facing camera, it'd be perfect.

r34p3rex said:
And this is why HTC is full of win
If only the Inspire had a front facing camera, it'd be perfect.
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I agree! I have heard on XDA that there should be an HTC Android device on At&t later this year with the front facing camera and all that.
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mentalcase said:
If you want to play around with it, you can install the DHD version. It runs quite well besides having no audio. The source code is needed to build a kernel that supports the inspires audio.
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Can we install CM7 then install our original radio to get sound back?

kirbo20 said:
Can we install CM7 then install our original radio to get sound back?
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Sounds more like a kernal issue.

kirbo20 said:
Can we install CM7 then install our original radio to get sound back?
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No. It's the kernel...not the radio.
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I have never tried out CM at all so I will deffinately check it out once it is available for the Inspire

Just tried out CM7, no audio as expected. Someone needs to figure out what makes the Inspire kernel different from the standard Desire HD kernel, then port it to the CM7 kernel xD

r34p3rex said:
Just tried out CM7, no audio as expected. Someone needs to figure out what makes the Inspire kernel different from the standard Desire HD kernel, then port it to the CM7 kernel xD
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You need the source first.
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From what I understand CM7 RC1 was released for the Desire HD last night so all we should need is an appropriate kernel to flash over that. I also read some people were able to get sound from a TELUS kernel for that device. Can anyone confirm that?
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rootdude said:
From what I understand CM7 RC1 was released for the Desire HD last night so all we should need is an appropriate kernel to flash over that. I also read some people were able to get sound from a TELUS kernel for that device. Can anyone confirm that?
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Seems any dhd Rom will work. If cm7 was ported then it should work like any other Rom with the TELUS.
Inspire (rooted)
Leedroid v2.0.0
TELUS kernel

Has it been confirmed that Sensation will get ICS??

I'm curious, will the Sensation ever get ICS? I mean the device should be able to handle it right? It's not like its a lightweight contendor that can't hold its own with the "big boys".
I'm also not talking about ports but rather an actual release by HTC/Google?

I've read that ICS is supposed to "unite" all android phones under one OS so that it won't be staggered like it is now
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As soon as google makes the ics source public. The cm team will start working on cm8 which will definitely come out for the sensation
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It hasn't been confirmed but HTC has always been pretty good with their updates.

Well once we get ICS, HTC would probably have to make SENSE work on it ( cause we all know HTC doesn't want us using vanilla roms )

Even if the Sensation doesn't get ICS through an update someone will port the ROM to work with the phone anyway. So yes, in time we will get ICS no matter what.

Maybe stupid question, but what is the ICS?

vbjelic said:
Maybe stupid question, but what is the ICS?
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Ice Cream Sandwich, the next version of Android.

If htc put gingerbread on the original desire, the sensation will definitely get ics. Once we are on the Cyanogenmod build tree there will be cm8
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Google announced at I/O that they were in agreement with certain partners that all future phones would be supported for 18 months after release, giving them updates as long as the phone can handle it. HTC was one of these partners.

phoenx06 said:
Google announced at I/O that they were in agreement with certain partners that all future phones would be supported for 18 months after release, giving them updates as long as the phone can handle it. HTC was one of these partners.
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Was the sensation released before or after this agreement?
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After it was made.

phoenx06 said:
Google announced at I/O that they were in agreement with certain partners that all future phones would be supported for 18 months after release, giving them updates as long as the phone can handle it. HTC was one of these partners.
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No further details nor any set in stone requirements were ever publicly released after the basic info about that agreement went public.
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If Google and/or HTC don't bring ics to sensation,someone will.

GoogleFan said:
If Google and/or HTC don't bring ics to sensation,someone will.
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That's true. But having the official one would save people a lot of trouble
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No one can really "confirm" whether or not we will ever be upgraded with an official version of the next version of android OS, but knowing HTCs track record to device support, there's a pretty good chance.
Either way though, htc loves throwing sense over everything anyway, so it's really not a big deal for me if they do. Right now we're using Gingerbread with a Sense overlay, if we get upgraded, we'll just be using ICS with a Sense overlay...not a totally huge difference in the eyes of the end user.
I would much rather see an ICS port on xda. It'll likely come out sooner, and, like pretty much everything else on xda, will run better than what HTC comes out with anyway.

To HTC's credit, their rom releases are pretty decent compared to their competitors. But yes, sense lengthens the release window and adds months to development.
The Sensation is practically guaranteed Ice Cream Sandwich, but it likely won't be updated for several months after its release.

There were very minimal visual updates between gingerbread and froyo so huge sense UI overhauls weren't needed (they basically just added functionality) if the ics updates are as huge as everyone believes and hopes I'm sure sense will also include a massive overhaul. (For example if the ics launcher includes the 'holographic' interface it would idiotic imho for HTC not include that in there updated sense launcher)
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ICS is supposed to be optimized for dual core use, as well, so I would think that would add a little more credence to the idea that the Sensation will get it.

phoenx06 said:
Google announced at I/O that they were in agreement with certain partners that all future phones would be supported for 18 months after release, giving them updates as long as the phone can handle it. HTC was one of these partners.
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I just bought a Sensation, and I hope they will port ICS, but my Tattoo is running Gingerbeard smoothly (no as smoothly as in the Sensation, but as smoothly as it runs donut) and it's not oficial, because officially "Tattoo can't handle Android 2.0".

android 4.0

Dont know if this is a dumb qustion but will android 4.0 be released for desire s?

This is what HTC had to say about the occasion:
"We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans."
Maybe yes, maybe not!

I also want to know.....pls cm will let it come true
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If not by HTC, then you most probably will find some ports or AOSP on Dev section.

If the only criterium they use is the technical capability of the phone (as they say they will) I would definitely say yes: the cpu can easily be overclocked to 1.2 gHz, and they recently published a phone (bliss) with identical characteristics as the desire s. I don't think that they are not going to provide an update for a device of about one month old.
On the other hand: many people will consider switching to a new device if they don't update it.
We'll just have to wait for an official statement, I'm afraid...

Looking forward to this coming out on our phones! Looks fantastic.

Call me cynical, but I can't see HTC releasing ICS on older devices where they perceive a possibility that the customer may buy a new device in order to upgrade.
The profit motive usually wins over all others!

Desire S isn't that old, it deserve to have ICS.
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ngek202 said:
Desire S isn't that old, it deserve to have ICS.
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Yea,desire s is young
And anyway the sensation will have ics so we ll also have our ics
With a port.i think desire s ll have android 4,it s an hight-end devices.if htc know how to build a rom we ll have our ics.
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The challenge is that we do have physical buttons, when ICS it is part of UI. That has to be taken into consideration.
Have no idea, how that will reflect in real life. For example, I do preffer deactivating physical buttons on Desire S and using UI, since I love it on my Tab.

As with all custom ROM scene, if there is not an official release, then this community will take the best/popular parts of ICS and blend them into existing builds, or port from the Nexus S entirely. (I like the idea of native photo correction software and face recognition security, both of which I already have with 3rd party apps.)
The problem is that Sense is so deeply integrated into the vanilla Android experience that HTC will look at the cost of brining that to devices that have already been paid for. They'll make a decision on whether or not it's worth spending time (and money) on doing this, or trying to dangle a new carrot in front of you to buy.
They will be well aware that those of us on XDA who are after the bleeding edge, are also able to put custom/ported ROMs on for free. This also relieves them of warranty responsibilities, and makes them less inclined to spend money developing an official update for our "older" handsets.
My view is that if we see ICS on our Desire S, it'll be an AOSP port from the Nexus S with maybe an official Sense release way down the line. Before then I'm sure someone will do an ICS-style launcher.
Just my thoughts.

Our device is not old.our desire is 400€ yet
And it s the top of the single core devices
I don t think an old device is 400€
Htc have to built an ics for us because this phone went out in april 2011 and i bought it for a lot of money xd
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kylon said:
Our device is not old.our desire is 400€ yet
And it s the top of the single core devices
I don t think an old device is 400€
Htc have to built an ics for us because this phone went out in april 2011 and i bought it for a lot of money xd
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+1 for you man!!!

Annoyed with HTC

Very p*ssed off with HTC
The Galaxy S original which is a 2 year old device is getting official ICS.
They weren't originally, but people begged Samsung and now they are getting it. This shows Samsung listens to customers.
They announced ICS for new devices 2 days ago, people complained, then today announce ICS for the original Galaxy S
Us? HTC announce the first waves many weeks ago. We pester HTC all the time but they never listen to us, no plans for the next wave yet.
Come on HTC! Desire S, HD and Incredible are all still new and capable!
I really hope they feel pressured by Samsung now and compete to release ICS for us.
Please share your opinions!
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olyloh6696 said:
Very p*ssed off with HTC
The Galaxy S original which is a 2 year old device is getting official ICS.
They weren't originally, but people begged Samsung and now they are getting it. This shows Samsung listens to customers.
They announced ICS for new devices 2 days ago, people complained, then today announce ICS.
Us? HTC announce the first waves many weeks ago. We pester HTC all the time but they never listen to us, no plans for the next wave yet.
Come on HTC! Desire S, HD and Incredible are all still new and capable!
I really hope they feel pressured by Samsung now and compete to release ICS for us.
Please share your opinions!
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Next time I'm due for an upgrade if HTC don't get their act together with software updates then I might just go elsewhere shame cos I really do like the hardware that comes in a htc
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+1 I like the great combination of hardware and software.
I don't mind if our ICS update will take a little longer, I know HTC will have to work to reskin the UI.
But at least let us know. It's been nearly 2 months now, and where is the 2nd wave of devices?
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Well... The Desire HD, Desire S, etc. are all FAIRLY old devices.
I never keep my electronic devices for more then a year (as I'm sure many here don't either) so I can't see it as a big deal.

Root, install miui. Problem solved.
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Maedhros said:
Well... The Desire HD, Desire S, etc. are all FAIRLY old devices.
I never keep my electronic devices for more then a year (as I'm sure many here don't either) so I can't see it as a big deal.
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Yeah, the DHD May be old..
But the Desire S and Incredible S certainly isn't!!
They were only released in April, 7-8 months old only! And they aren't getting updates?
I only included the DHD, as it has the same/similiar specs.
The new XL is getting ICS, but it has exactly the same hardware as the DHD, Desire S!! (Just a overclocked CPU)
Think about it, the Galaxy S, 2 YEARS OLD, is getting ICS!
And Desire S (7-8 MONTHS OLD) hasn't even been confirmed to get ICS yet!
Come on HTC!
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darkfayte said:
Root, install miui. Problem solved.
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I hate it when people say this
I am already rooted, and running a Sensation XL ROM sense 3.5.
I can easily choose and install A ICS ROM now. (In fact already tested it)
But its always better to get official support from HTC, so devs can work from our base, and we get a proper kernel source etc.
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olyloh6696 said:
I hate it when people say this
I am already rooted, and running a Sensation XL ROM sense 3.5.
I can easily choose and install A ICS ROM now. (In fact already tested it)
But its always better to get official support from HTC, so devs can work from our base, and we get a proper kernel source etc.
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True but HTC customer service sucks once you buy your device one way or another I will have ics running whether its cm9 ,official HTC or superkids ics
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At least they're not Motorola.
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-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

At least this device has Cyanogen option, mine doesnt even have this option...

olyloh6696 said:
Very p*ssed off with HTC
The Galaxy S original which is a 2 year old device is getting official ICS.
They weren't originally, but people begged Samsung and now they are getting it. This shows Samsung listens to customers.
They announced ICS for new devices 2 days ago, people complained, then today announce ICS for the original Galaxy S
Us? HTC announce the first waves many weeks ago. We pester HTC all the time but they never listen to us, no plans for the next wave yet.
Come on HTC! Desire S, HD and Incredible are all still new and capable!
I really hope they feel pressured by Samsung now and compete to release ICS for us.
Please share your opinions!
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First I don't know from where you get that Samsung is updating the SGSI to ICS please give source.
All i know is that Samsung said that they'll update the Galaxy SII and the Note
will get ICS in Q1 where as the Galaxy R and galaxy Tabs(exclude the first gen) later and no mention what so ever about the Galaxy S!
Secondly HTC never said that they aren't updating the Desire S Incredible S (which are mid range devices) and Desire HD to ICS, they've said clearly that the phones presented on their release were the first bunch to get ICS, and of course the most recent phones would get ICS first, and HTC did a good job updating devices like the Desire HD, with 2 major updates : 2.2 to 2.3.3 and to 2.3.5 with sense 3.0!
Thirdly from what I've seen HTC is planing to update their devices to ICS before samsung does, the sensation is planed to get it ICS update on februrary where as the SGSII update planed for April.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/17/bell-mobility-hints-at-ice-cream-sandwich-release-dates-for-gala/
And fortly you'll get the ICS roms and HTC leaks in the XDA community before the OEMs release their official roms (requirements and approval process takes time) if you want ICS I'm sure you can already download beta ICS rom for your device

kurolife said:
First I don't know from where you get that Samsung is updating the SGSI to ICS please give source.
All i know is that Samsung said that they'll update the Galaxy SII and the Note
will get ICS in Q1 where as the Galaxy R and galaxy Tabs(exclude the first gen) later and no mention what so ever about the Galaxy S!
Secondly HTC never said that they aren't updating the Desire S Incredible S (which are mid range devices) and Desire HD to ICS, they've said clearly that the phones presented on their release were the first bunch to get ICS, and of course the most recent phones would get ICS first, and HTC did a good job updating devices like the Desire HD, with 2 major updates : 2.2 to 2.3.3 and to 2.3.5 with sense 3.5!
Thirdly from what I've seen HTC is planing to update their devices to ICS before samsung does, the sensation is planed to get it ICS update on februrary where as the SGSII update planed for April.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/17/bell-mobility-hints-at-ice-cream-sandwich-release-dates-for-gala/
And fortly you'll get the ICS roms and HTC leaks in the XDA community before the OEMs release their official roms (requirements and approval process takes time) if you want ICS I'm sure you can already download beta ICS rom for your device
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Hi,
I found this in the Galaxy S thread. People are talking about it
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...lans-for-GALAXY-line-Galaxy-S-to-follow-later
Actually looking back now, not too sure about its reliability.
Yes, Samsung originally announced ICS for the newer phnes 2 days ago.
Then customers complained. And 2 days later, Samsung listend and supposedly said a Galaxy S original update will be coming soon, but later.
I know Desire S etc are mid range phones - it is capable of ICS and only 8 months old.
As I have already said, there are betas for me, I've already tried them.
I won't be using the official ROM anyway, I just want htc to make the update.
As I said a few pages back, if htc make the update, our devs can tweak and base newer ROM versions on the new base and kernel, which is better than using a ROM port.
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olyloh6696 said:
Hi,
I found this in the Galaxy S thread. People are talking about it
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...lans-for-GALAXY-line-Galaxy-S-to-follow-later
Actually looking back now, not too sure about its reliability.
Yes, Samsung originally announced ICS for the newer phnes 2 days ago.
Then customers complained. And 2 days later, Samsung listend and supposedly said a Galaxy S original update will be coming soon, but later.
I know Desire S etc are mid range phones - it is capable of ICS and only 8 months old.
As I have already said, there are betas for me, I've already tried them.
I won't be using the official ROM anyway, I just want htc to make the update.
As I said a few pages back, if htc make the update, our devs can tweak and base newer ROM versions on the new base and kernel, which is better than using a ROM port.
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That source doesn't look reliable to me at all, I've checked all the well known sources, such as Androidcentral, engadget,theverge, andoirdpolice and of course our source n1 which is XDA and there are no mentions on the Samsung Galaxy S I
Don't take me wrong, I am 100% with you when you say that HTC needs to bring ICS to those devices if possible (rom limitations comes to mind) but I'm being more realistic, and I'm considering the whole picture, and it looks that HTC is doing pretty good compared to it competition in terms of updates but that's still not enough as a customer I ask for me, Also at the same time I would like to give a shout to google! to give OEMs release candidate OS to play with and prepare their update a periode of time before they them self start releasing the final product, so we don't see this fragmentation in terms of OS OEMs skinned versions comes at about same time, or relatively some weeks later after the release on Nexus devices and not months later

Samsung officialy said no ICS for SGSI
http://translate.google.com/transla...&eotf=1&u=http://www.samsungtomorrow.com/2043

kurolife said:
Samsung officialy said no ICS for SGSI
http://translate.google.com/transla...&eotf=1&u=http://www.samsungtomorrow.com/2043
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Seems that source was fake then
Samsung... Just as bad as HTC?
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olyloh6696 said:
Seems that source was fake then
Samsung... Just as bad as HTC?
Well, just flash a custom rom will do. At least Sammy did much better than Motorola and LG in terms of updates though. Not to mention Sammy devices have an open bootloader, unlike HTC or moto phones.
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Yes, I've said this many many times now
I'm already on a custom ROM. no intentions to use a official ROM. But its good to get a base and kernel source for devs to work on for best integration on our phones.
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So, why do so many of you like HTC? Hardware is not that great, battery life is out the a$$, rooting is relatively annoying/complicated.

Skv012a said:
So, why do so many of you like HTC? Hardware is not that great, battery life is out the a$$, rooting is relatively annoying/complicated.
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Sure, hardware isn't as superior as Samsungs etc, but software is the key.
It's far superior than Samsungs touchwiz and other UI's.
Battery life on some htc's are rubbish, but on my Desire S its decent.
Also, rooting for me was easier than on my Galaxy Tab, and my dads SGSII.
I guess its all Down To personal opinions.
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Persistence
With persistence, you'll get what you desire, keep on trying

htc not realesing anymore updates for the one S [S4]

Hi there !
I have an EURO S4 htc one S and since there are 2 version of this phone ( the S4 cpu and the S3 cpu ) I'm starting to be a little concerned about updates as it's been a while since the last one.
Actually I'm still on 1.78 because 1.84 cames out just for the US t-mobile version and there are a list of bug that I would like to see fixed from htc.
1) meteo app and meteo widget works bad ( lag, crash ecc )
2) 3G isn't working sometimes even if the phone show the signal ( problem from early days )
3) Browser performance are not that great expecially now that I have some apps installed
4) live meteo background isn't working
5) also with 1.78 quadrant show a worst benchmarsk result of about 700 points!!
6) sense crash sometimes
So there are a lot of things to be fixed here and there, and as I have paid this phone a lot of money I would like to receive a decent support!!

yes, the update speed is slow like hell with only S4 and don't mention there is one more S3 now, the speed will be even slower. I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.

TheEndHK said:
yes, the update speed is slow like hell with only S4 and don't mention there is one more S3 now, the speed will be even slower. I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
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Wait the TMo One S is in a different update channel so it may recieve different updates to the Euro/WWE One S. It's a "flagship" device so it should get updates (including Jelly Bean)

First of all they should end with all that silly "sense" stuff and also messing with android itself. I also have Nexus S and despite the fact that it's quite old device and dosn't run so smooth anymore, I have no problems. And I guess that this is because it uses vanilla android, not some screwed up stuff from HTC or Samsung.
HTC makes great phones in terms of hardware, but they should abondon their crapware or deliver it as an addition to android, not replacement of it's essential parts.
This is my personal view, I never liked Sense (it made sense for Windows Mobile) but i like HTC phones.

Matter of opinion I love sense over vanilla
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k1llacanon said:
Matter of opinion I love sense over vanilla
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Same here, I don't understand why people buy a HTC phone and then complain about sense.
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emdzej said:
First of all they should end with all that silly "sense" stuff and also messing with android itself. I also have Nexus S and despite the fact that it's quite old device and dosn't run so smooth anymore, I have no problems. And I guess that this is because it uses vanilla android, not some screwed up stuff from HTC or Samsung.
HTC makes great phones in terms of hardware, but they should abondon their crapware or deliver it as an addition to android, not replacement of it's essential parts.
This is my personal view, I never liked Sense (it made sense for Windows Mobile) but i like HTC phones.
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completly disagree, I buy HTC because I want sense, I don't like android basic at all. They just need to speed up the software development department..

I LOVE HTC design & Hardware that's why I bought an HTC but I HATE sense (it has some good things though, but I think its overweight is not worth it) maybe they could allow more customization and allow download/enable only the things you like...
Back to the topic I don't think S4 version will be forgetted, S3 will only ship to some zones, but worldwide both versions will be present.
Sadly One S will not be as supported as One X, but it still will be supported quite a bit (and after we will still have custom ROMS )

MaiD450 said:
I LOVE HTC design & Hardware that's why I bought an HTC but I HATE sense (it has some good things though, but I think its overweight is not worth it) maybe they could allow more customization and allow download/enable only the things you like...
Back to the topic I don't think S4 version will be forgetted, S3 will only ship to some zones, but worldwide both versions will be present.
Sadly One S will not be as supported as One X, but it still will be supported quite a bit (and after we will still have custom ROMS )
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The problem with custom Roms is that with 2 versions of the one S ( s4 and s3 ) the diffusion of the device will be not uniform and we will have less development that own a specific version. Also custom ROMs need fresh drivers!!!
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The problem with custom Roms is that with 2 versions of the one S ( s4 and s3 ) the diffusion of the device will be not uniform and we will have less development that own a specific version. Also custom ROMs need fresh drivers!!!
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I really doubt that will be less development, just give it a while for devs to get s3 roms running.
Anything is better than the what the amaze dev section has.
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If you check the Touch Button Issue thread (GSM 900/1800MHz) countries are affected only, no relevance to US) you will see various HTC statements that they work on a fix for that issue rolling out soon.
The quality of the statements rather sound like "Update" to me not fix. So it might mean a new RUU and include more fixes? *hope dies last*

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*hope dies last*
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Lol agreed, hopefully they'll roll other "fixes" in as well.
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I don't think we need to worry about updated for our phones. HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates. According to Google, handset makers have had their hands on Jelly Bean code for a while now. My guess is that HTC is already working on the Android 4.1 update and will try to get that out as soon as possible.
HTC may also push out a few smaller updated between now and then to resolve some of the issues that have been pointed out. The HTC one S is a flagship device. Support for the phone will not dwindle until HTC pushed out a newer handset.

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I don't think we need to worry about updated for our phones. HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates. According to Google, handset makers have had their hands on Jelly Bean code for a while now. My guess is that HTC is already working on the Android 4.1 update and will try to get that out as soon as possible.
HTC may also push out a few smaller updated between now and then to resolve some of the issues that have been pointed out. The HTC one S is a flagship device. Support for the phone will not dwindle until HTC pushed out a newer handset.
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And a lot of the time, its T-Mobile who holds out on the update while they "double check" everything.
I know on the amaze we had a leaked Rom that was exactly the same as the ota almost a month before the official ota was put put by T-Mobile.
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TheEndHK said:
I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
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No... this is not possible...
I will wait one more month than I will come back with SAMSUNG!
More update, crash fix, NO S-OFF, more ROM...
The ONE S is an EXCELENT smartphone, I love it, but HTC release bug fix in too much time!!!!!
Take a look to SAMSUNG... why success?
Because SAMSUNG listen the users!
Since now for the GS3 there was released about 3 update to fix all the remaining bugs!
I love my HTC ONE S but the WEB BROWSER SUCK! The Gallery SUCK! The TREE DOT MENU' SUCK (sometime are nice but most of the time are unnecessary)...
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HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates.
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...we are still waiting...

If u don't like it sell it don't make a rant on here
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xxquicksh0txx said:
Same here, I don't understand why people buy a HTC phone and then complain about sense.
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It's pretty simple, too...don't like Sense? So flash one of the many non-Sense ROMs (pun not intended)---CM9, for one...If you don't want to have to flash and you hate Sense, well THEN you probably bought the wrong phone.
As an aside, my brother got T-MO US to give him a FREE SGSIII yesterday with his 2 year upgrade (he only qualified for partial upgrade at the time). THAT is why I love T-Mobile...customer service can be very helpful and nice sometimes.

We got XDA....we fix our own bugs...HAHAHA
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Skyman1 said:
The TREE DOT MENU' SUCK
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Welcome to ICS, 'tard.

your title is a little misleading