I have been trying really hard to replace my One XL with a new Lollipop enabled phone, but have been hard pressed to find a replacement. the OPO is brilliant, but is a bit too big for me (though I might still cave in).
So, considering I am planning to stick with my One XL for sometime, I'm trying to see if we can get devs interested in porting Lollipop over. The biggest advantage that I'm looking for is performance and battery life boost - due to Volta and ART, which may extend the usefulness of the One XL considerably.
Why should you be excited for Lollipop on the One X
Material Design UI - http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
ART and Project Volta - http://www.latinpost.com/articles/16930/20140711/android-l-battery-life-glance-project-volta-art.htm
REQUIREMENTS:
Be the first person to create the following:
AOSP Android 5.0 OR Cyanogenmod 12 port OR Paranoid Android Lollipop port for the One XL
Voice+data (atleast HSDPA), Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC
ART instead of Dalvik
Project Volta enabled
Make a post in this thread with the following:
Proving it works with appropriate photos and/or screenshots
Providing full step-by-step instructions for which anyone else can follow
Confirmation from at least 2 persons on these forums that the ROM is working
Claim your bounty via PM from pledger(s)
Payment(s) will be processed between each member and the bounty collector via PM on an individual basis.
LIST OF PLEDGES
sandys1 - 10$
eyemyt - 15$.
obsidian_eclipse - 15$
I'm in. My pledge 15$.
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great to see the ball rolling !
Are bounties payable via PayPal? We all live in different countries and that would probably be the safest and most effective way of doing it.
If the above features can be worked in (im tempted to make it harder and say have Sense added to - because I like sense) then I'll add $15 to the sum so far.
An indication from a developer on the scale of the job and its setbacks, realism and expectations too would be appreciated early on.
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Are bounties payable via PayPal? We all live in different countries and that would probably be the safest and most effective way of doing it.
If the above features can be worked in (im tempted to make it harder and say have Sense added to - because I like sense) then I'll add $15 to the sum so far.
An indication from a developer on the scale of the job and its setbacks, realism and expectations too would be appreciated early on.
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IMHO Sense is closed source - what has happened till now is that binaries of Sense UI have been made to run on newer and newer Android versions (going to 4.3 I think). However, as the newer Android diverges from what was the original intended Android version (for Sense), it becomes harder and harder. I think Sense development has pretty much stagnated on the Evita because of this.
I would say it will be a little hard and unrealistic for Sense to be ported over as such - but I think you will love what Lollipop and Material Design UI has tooffer. If you have the change to spare, I think it would be a good bet !
Last time around (in the Evita bootloader unlock), we transferred the bounty using Paypal. I'm planning to do mine that way this time as well.
Take a look at http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
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IMHO Sense is closed source - what has happened till now is that binaries of Sense UI have been made to run on newer and newer Android versions (going to 4.3 I think). However, as the newer Android diverges from what was the original intended Android version (for Sense), it becomes harder and harder. I think Sense development has pretty much stagnated on the Evita because of this.
I would say it will be a little hard and unrealistic for Sense to be ported over as such - but I think you will love what Lollipop and Material Design UI has tooffer. If you have the change to spare, I think it would be a good bet !
Last time around (in the Evita bootloader unlock), we transferred the bounty using Paypal. I'm planning to do mine that way this time as well.
Take a look at http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
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You mean AOSP.
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You mean AOSP.
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Not sure what you mean. I was replying to the poster above who was asking for the possibility of Sense being ported to lollipop on this phone.
Ok lollipop does look pretty great sans sense so it sounds like a good investment, provided a reasonable time scale for it's production, so hopefully the pledges will come in.
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Not sure what you mean. I was replying to the poster above who was asking for the possibility of Sense being ported to lollipop on this phone.
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Oh yeah he did, my bad lol
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CM12 work has started - https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android/tree/cm-12.0 Now, it's upto a dev to volunteer for the evita!
Waiting for the good news.....
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Waiting for the good news.....
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this is not for the evita - this is for nexus 5 and newer variants. In fact if we do not convice someone to build a CM12 variant in time, our phone will be dropped from any nightly builds
http://www.landofdroid.com/2014/cm12-roadmap-leaked-exciting/
Device cutoff based on specifications. We expect 512mb devices to be fine, but the issue here will be GPU and non-Kitkat binaries. Expect a hard line here drawn in the sand with respect to device support. This will not be pretty for many older generation devices (pre-ICS).
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Which is why this bounty was created in hope of accelerating that development.
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this is not for the evita - this is for nexus 5 and newer variants. In fact if we do not convice someone to build a CM12 variant in time, our phone will be dropped from any nightly builds
http://www.landofdroid.com/2014/cm12-roadmap-leaked-exciting/
Which is why this bounty was created in hope of accelerating that development.
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Well psh, we're definitely not pre-ICS.
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I've always been of the opinion that HTC could have quite easily given us KitKat officially but they wanted to push people to upgrade unnecessarily. From the way lollipop sounds android promote it as being faster and more efficient than either KitKat or jellybean so if anything it should be pretty decent on our hardware.
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I've always been of the opinion that HTC could have quite easily given us KitKat officially but they wanted to push people to upgrade unnecessarily. From the way lollipop sounds android promote it as being faster and more efficient than either KitKat or jellybean so if anything it should be pretty decent on our hardware.
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You hit the nail right on the head there, that's exactly why they don't provide official updates. They're a business and profit is their bottom line. If they provide updates for older devices then the owners of those older devices have less reason to upgrade, less people upgrading means less profit for them.
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You hit the nail right on the head there, that's exactly why they don't provide official updates. They're a business and profit is their bottom line. If they provide updates for older devices then the owners of those older devices have less reason to upgrade, less people upgrading means less profit for them.
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Yeah but you'd think people will upgrade naturally because of better hardware and specs, etc.
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Yeah but you'd think people will upgrade naturally because of better hardware and specs, etc.
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Some do, but others are more focused on squeezing as much out of their current device as they can.
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Some do, but others are more focused on squeezing as much out of their current device as they can.
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Exactly, that's why I still have my HTC Inspire 4G, HTC One X, and my new LG G3. No sense in getting rid of the old ones when they work great with all of the ROM development that occurs! That old Inspire works great as a walkman while out in the mountains!
should just be happy with the kk roms and cm11 with gapps until something better comes out. I really like the 5.0 interface but it is really nothing ground breaking
Agreed...only thing to look to is if any real performance improvement....
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Any chance of running a vanilla version of gingerbread?
r_3 said:
Any chance of running a vanilla version of gingerbread?
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Once HTC releases the kernel source code for the Inspire, then the work on a CM 7 compatible kernel can begin.
If you want to play around with it, you can install the DHD version. It runs quite well besides having no audio. The source code is needed to build a kernel that supports the inspires audio.
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Once HTC releases the kernel source code for the Inspire, then the work on a CM 7 compatible kernel can begin.
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How long after releasing a device is the manufacturer supposed to release the source code? I'm not too familiar with the whole open source thing
HTC is quite good about it. Usually a couple of weeks or so.
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HTC is quite good about it. Usually a couple of weeks or so.
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Ahh cool, hopefully sooner than later xD I haven't had any Cyanogen love since my Nexus One
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Ahh cool, hopefully sooner than later xD I haven't had any Cyanogen love since my Nexus One
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Yeah I hear you. I've never had a device that was really supported (loaded it on my Streak, but next to nothing worked). I've always flashed my friends devices with it and I'm quite jealous. lol
Good news is that they plan to support it. If you go to their forums they've added the Inspire to the Desire HD.
This is great news I have also installed a ton of cm7 on all of my buddies phones and can't wait to actually run it myself.
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Once HTC releases the kernel source code for the Inspire, then the work on a CM 7 compatible kernel can begin.
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What is it that htc does or doesn't do that makes so many of its phones compatible with cm? Or does the cm crew simply prefer to support htc phones compared to others?
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What is it that htc does or doesn't do that makes so many of its phones compatible with cm? Or does the cm crew simply prefer to support htc phones compared to others?
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well, for starters, they use the standard mtd partition layout (unlike Samsung who uses bml) which means the "fastboot" commands can work. on top of that, their devices are also usually extraordinarily similar between generations which leads to most of the exploits and such working on multiple phones. so you have a LARGE number of devices being worked on by a LARGE number of developers with extreme similarities. this leads to a lot of tools working on multiple devices (the Inspire is actually a good example of this, seeing as how it's basically a Desire HD... it's even got the Ace codename--same as the Desire HD) which makes the rapid pace of development understandable.
Add to the fact that htc and tmobile (who had the first android phone which also happened to be htc) both encourage this "hobbyist" attitude from the developer community on non-dev phones (all dev phones were htc until the Neuxs S... G1/ADP, Magic/Ion, Nexus One... and they are almost entirely open source from my understanding) to both encourage people to buy their phones and also to ENJOY their phones. HTC provides software they consider to be the best "overall user experience" and I think that means they provide android (usually with Sense UI) so that it will appeal to the widest range of people. But then there are people who want that vanilla UI without buying the dev phone (such as myself and possibly you) and I'm betting htc doesn't want to actively discourage people having this option because it means improved sales from the hobbyist community. Now I have no inside info, but I'm sure the only exploits and such that they patch are security vulnerabilities (which are the ones exploited to get root). htc even fixed cyanogen's personal Nexus One due to a faulty power button even though his "hackery" voids the warranty. Tmobile provided/collaborated with cyanogenmod with the theme-ing engine for CM7. This history of collaboration between google, htc, tmobile, and the developer community has led to strong ties and familiarity with the platform.
tl;dr:
tmobile likes having the developers on their service because it means more subscribers; htc likely wants to appeal to both the average consumer and the developers so offers an out of the box experience that most can enjoy (Sense) but doesn't actively try to discourage developers.
Kaik541 said:
well, for starters, they use the standard mtd partition layout (unlike Samsung who uses bml) which means the "fastboot" commands can work. on top of that, their devices are also usually extraordinarily similar between generations which leads to most of the exploits and such working on multiple phones. so you have a LARGE number of devices being worked on by a LARGE number of developers with extreme similarities. this leads to a lot of tools working on multiple devices (the Inspire is actually a good example of this, seeing as how it's basically a Desire HD... it's even got the Ace codename--same as the Desire HD) which makes the rapid pace of development understandable.
Add to the fact that htc and tmobile (who had the first android phone which also happened to be htc) both encourage this "hobbyist" attitude from the developer community on non-dev phones (all dev phones were htc until the Neuxs S... G1/ADP, Magic/Ion, Nexus One... and they are almost entirely open source from my understanding) to both encourage people to buy their phones and also to ENJOY their phones. HTC provides software they consider to be the best "overall user experience" and I think that means they provide android (usually with Sense UI) so that it will appeal to the widest range of people. But then there are people who want that vanilla UI without buying the dev phone (such as myself and possibly you) and I'm betting htc doesn't want to actively discourage people having this option because it means improved sales from the hobbyist community. Now I have no inside info, but I'm sure the only exploits and such that they patch are security vulnerabilities (which are the ones exploited to get root). htc even fixed cyanogen's personal Nexus One due to a faulty power button even though his "hackery" voids the warranty. Tmobile provided/collaborated with cyanogenmod with the theme-ing engine for CM7. This history of collaboration between google, htc, tmobile, and the developer community has led to strong ties and familiarity with the platform.
tl;dr:
tmobile likes having the developers on their service because it means more subscribers; htc likely wants to appeal to both the average consumer and the developers so offers an out of the box experience that most can enjoy (Sense) but doesn't actively try to discourage developers.
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And this is why HTC is full of win
If only the Inspire had a front facing camera, it'd be perfect.
r34p3rex said:
And this is why HTC is full of win
If only the Inspire had a front facing camera, it'd be perfect.
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I agree! I have heard on XDA that there should be an HTC Android device on At&t later this year with the front facing camera and all that.
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mentalcase said:
If you want to play around with it, you can install the DHD version. It runs quite well besides having no audio. The source code is needed to build a kernel that supports the inspires audio.
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Can we install CM7 then install our original radio to get sound back?
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Can we install CM7 then install our original radio to get sound back?
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Sounds more like a kernal issue.
kirbo20 said:
Can we install CM7 then install our original radio to get sound back?
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No. It's the kernel...not the radio.
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I have never tried out CM at all so I will deffinately check it out once it is available for the Inspire
Just tried out CM7, no audio as expected. Someone needs to figure out what makes the Inspire kernel different from the standard Desire HD kernel, then port it to the CM7 kernel xD
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Just tried out CM7, no audio as expected. Someone needs to figure out what makes the Inspire kernel different from the standard Desire HD kernel, then port it to the CM7 kernel xD
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You need the source first.
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From what I understand CM7 RC1 was released for the Desire HD last night so all we should need is an appropriate kernel to flash over that. I also read some people were able to get sound from a TELUS kernel for that device. Can anyone confirm that?
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rootdude said:
From what I understand CM7 RC1 was released for the Desire HD last night so all we should need is an appropriate kernel to flash over that. I also read some people were able to get sound from a TELUS kernel for that device. Can anyone confirm that?
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Seems any dhd Rom will work. If cm7 was ported then it should work like any other Rom with the TELUS.
Inspire (rooted)
Leedroid v2.0.0
TELUS kernel
All,
looking for insight regarding currently available ROM's that would offer the closest thing to CM9 (from what I’ve read CM9 is only available on Tegra3 handsets)? Looking for a 'stock android experience' or AOSP based build... your suggestions are much appreciated.
currently unlocked, running 1.85FW, with CWT recovery...
many thanx,
The closest thing available right now would probably be CleanROM Dev edition 2.0. Check it out in the development section.
CleanROM DE 2 is what I'm running and it's great. It's pretty clean.
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
100%digital said:
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
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Clean ROM DE is different from what you are running. Check the dev section. As for an AOSP ROM...who knows. There are a lot of factors involved.
Rabble rabble rabble.
If I understand correctly, you'll have to wait until we get S-Off so we can flash boot.img. Once that's achieved, it will be possible to flash full ROM's. But there are still a lot of things that need to be figured out, like getting the camera working, Wifi, GPS, data, etc.
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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You know that never happens =)
jmattp said:
If I understand correctly, you'll have to wait until we get S-Off so we can flash boot.img. Once that's achieved, it will be possible to flash full ROM's. But there are still a lot of things that need to be figured out, like getting the camera working, Wifi, GPS, data, etc.
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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eraste said:
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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Because the only device running stock Android 4.0 is the Galaxy Nexus. I've gone through several of them and they all had the same purple tint, weird crosshatch pattern visible on white images, distortion/noise at low brightness, and other issues related to the Pentile SAMOLED display. Besides that, I can't think of any other device that runs stock Android.
I especially can't think of any Android phones that look as nice as the One X. I like its unibody construction, machined earpiece grill, soft-touch case (the black one anyway, not sure if the white is glossy), the way the glass is slightly above the case like old iPod Nano, and the display itself is really good.
Before Ice Cream Sandiwch, we had maybe the Motorola Droid, the Nexus One, and then the Nexus S. I hate physical keyboards, the Droid was out. Currently, there aren't many choices if you want a vanilla Android device. Actually... there's only one, and the display is a disappointment to me.
In my opinion, the best Android phone available right now is the One X. Knowing that developers are always making custom ROM's for the majority of Android devices, I know that I don't need to let the software dictate my purchasing decision.
eraste said:
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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You realize those manufacturers slap their own crap on top of stock android too, right? Samsung - TouchWiz, Moto - Blur, LG - Whatever the heck they do. Unless you're buying a Nexus device then you're getting a manufacturer skin.
Personally, I buy for the hardware. Though, the stock software has to be tolerable enough to last me until custom roms start coming out.
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
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so without nand access the One X isn't going to see any AOSP builds? I’m not sure I entirely understand how nand is that important... I mean if you can boot a your own ROM, who cares.
Does HTC typically release the source for their phones as ‘pside15’ indicated that is an important factor in creating ROMs?
Seems like the Cyanogenmod team already has AOSP build for the Tegra handset. HTC One X (with Tegra) source isn’t released…
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
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Thanks for the correction.
100%digital said:
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
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qft.
I LOVE the htc one x for the hardware and its physical appeal, but i also cant wait for some stock android ROMs. The aroma one thats out gets pretty darn close, but its no CM9. Im hoping that in the next two weeks with our new freedom with the unlocked bootloader etc etc.. that we will get more than 2 roms... thats ALL I see currently in the dev section. I shouldnt complain though because obviously I'm no dev.
I feel like the AT&T version was a waste of my money though :/ it just doesnt have enough attention. The only reason I have it instead of the tegra 3 is because of the battery and lte. Otherwise there is literally no other reason I should keep this phone. Does anyone know if the battery life has been improved at all for the international version?
dufort said:
qft.
I LOVE the htc one x for the hardware and its physical appeal, but i also cant wait for some stock android ROMs. The aroma one thats out gets pretty darn close, but its no CM9. Im hoping that in the next two weeks with our new freedom with the unlocked bootloader etc etc.. that we will get more than 2 roms... thats ALL I see currently in the dev section. I shouldnt complain though because obviously I'm no dev.
I feel like the AT&T version was a waste of my money though :/ it just doesnt have enough attention. The only reason I have it instead of the tegra 3 is because of the battery and lte. Otherwise there is literally no other reason I should keep this phone. Does anyone know if the battery life has been improved at all for the international version?
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I'm working on one myself....but because I do not want to release trash and because I have been limited on time over the last week or two...I have not released yet. Sit tight and chill out. Phone hasnt even been out for a month yet...
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Good to see you h8 I liked your stuff on the infuse you taught me a lot
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I'm working on one myself....but because I do not want to release trash and because I have been limited on time over the last week or two...I have not released yet. Sit tight and chill out. Phone hasnt even been out for a month yet...
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Oh I'm sitting tight, stoked to see what the future is with this device. Just had to vent a bit :banghead:
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so without nand access the One X isn't going to see any AOSP builds? I’m not sure I entirely understand how nand is that important... I mean if you can boot a your own ROM, who cares.
Does HTC typically release the source for their phones as ‘pside15’ indicated that is an important factor in creating ROMs?
Seems like the Cyanogenmod team already has AOSP build for the Tegra handset. HTC One X (with Tegra) source isn’t released…
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Source has been released for one x tegra...
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There are only so many ways you can debloat the stock roms lol.
Things will pick up once the source is released and devs can start going crazy.
+1
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Because the only device running stock Android 4.0 is the Galaxy Nexus. I've gone through several of them and they all had the same purple tint, weird crosshatch pattern visible on white images, distortion/noise at low brightness, and other issues related to the Pentile SAMOLED display. Besides that, I can't think of any other device that runs stock Android.
I especially can't think of any Android phones that look as nice as the One X. I like its unibody construction, machined earpiece grill, soft-touch case (the black one anyway, not sure if the white is glossy), the way the glass is slightly above the case like old iPod Nano, and the display itself is really good.
Before Ice Cream Sandiwch, we had maybe the Motorola Droid, the Nexus One, and then the Nexus S. I hate physical keyboards, the Droid was out. Currently, there aren't many choices if you want a vanilla Android device. Actually... there's only one, and the display is a disappointment to me.
In my opinion, the best Android phone available right now is the One X. Knowing that developers are always making custom ROM's for the majority of Android devices, I know that I don't need to let the software dictate my purchasing decision.
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Exactly!
Hi there !
I have an EURO S4 htc one S and since there are 2 version of this phone ( the S4 cpu and the S3 cpu ) I'm starting to be a little concerned about updates as it's been a while since the last one.
Actually I'm still on 1.78 because 1.84 cames out just for the US t-mobile version and there are a list of bug that I would like to see fixed from htc.
1) meteo app and meteo widget works bad ( lag, crash ecc )
2) 3G isn't working sometimes even if the phone show the signal ( problem from early days )
3) Browser performance are not that great expecially now that I have some apps installed
4) live meteo background isn't working
5) also with 1.78 quadrant show a worst benchmarsk result of about 700 points!!
6) sense crash sometimes
So there are a lot of things to be fixed here and there, and as I have paid this phone a lot of money I would like to receive a decent support!!
yes, the update speed is slow like hell with only S4 and don't mention there is one more S3 now, the speed will be even slower. I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
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yes, the update speed is slow like hell with only S4 and don't mention there is one more S3 now, the speed will be even slower. I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
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Wait the TMo One S is in a different update channel so it may recieve different updates to the Euro/WWE One S. It's a "flagship" device so it should get updates (including Jelly Bean)
First of all they should end with all that silly "sense" stuff and also messing with android itself. I also have Nexus S and despite the fact that it's quite old device and dosn't run so smooth anymore, I have no problems. And I guess that this is because it uses vanilla android, not some screwed up stuff from HTC or Samsung.
HTC makes great phones in terms of hardware, but they should abondon their crapware or deliver it as an addition to android, not replacement of it's essential parts.
This is my personal view, I never liked Sense (it made sense for Windows Mobile) but i like HTC phones.
Matter of opinion I love sense over vanilla
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Matter of opinion I love sense over vanilla
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Same here, I don't understand why people buy a HTC phone and then complain about sense.
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First of all they should end with all that silly "sense" stuff and also messing with android itself. I also have Nexus S and despite the fact that it's quite old device and dosn't run so smooth anymore, I have no problems. And I guess that this is because it uses vanilla android, not some screwed up stuff from HTC or Samsung.
HTC makes great phones in terms of hardware, but they should abondon their crapware or deliver it as an addition to android, not replacement of it's essential parts.
This is my personal view, I never liked Sense (it made sense for Windows Mobile) but i like HTC phones.
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completly disagree, I buy HTC because I want sense, I don't like android basic at all. They just need to speed up the software development department..
I LOVE HTC design & Hardware that's why I bought an HTC but I HATE sense (it has some good things though, but I think its overweight is not worth it) maybe they could allow more customization and allow download/enable only the things you like...
Back to the topic I don't think S4 version will be forgetted, S3 will only ship to some zones, but worldwide both versions will be present.
Sadly One S will not be as supported as One X, but it still will be supported quite a bit (and after we will still have custom ROMS )
MaiD450 said:
I LOVE HTC design & Hardware that's why I bought an HTC but I HATE sense (it has some good things though, but I think its overweight is not worth it) maybe they could allow more customization and allow download/enable only the things you like...
Back to the topic I don't think S4 version will be forgetted, S3 will only ship to some zones, but worldwide both versions will be present.
Sadly One S will not be as supported as One X, but it still will be supported quite a bit (and after we will still have custom ROMS )
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The problem with custom Roms is that with 2 versions of the one S ( s4 and s3 ) the diffusion of the device will be not uniform and we will have less development that own a specific version. Also custom ROMs need fresh drivers!!!
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light_n_roses said:
The problem with custom Roms is that with 2 versions of the one S ( s4 and s3 ) the diffusion of the device will be not uniform and we will have less development that own a specific version. Also custom ROMs need fresh drivers!!!
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I really doubt that will be less development, just give it a while for devs to get s3 roms running.
Anything is better than the what the amaze dev section has.
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If you check the Touch Button Issue thread (GSM 900/1800MHz) countries are affected only, no relevance to US) you will see various HTC statements that they work on a fix for that issue rolling out soon.
The quality of the statements rather sound like "Update" to me not fix. So it might mean a new RUU and include more fixes? *hope dies last*
Sneakyghost said:
*hope dies last*
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Lol agreed, hopefully they'll roll other "fixes" in as well.
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I don't think we need to worry about updated for our phones. HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates. According to Google, handset makers have had their hands on Jelly Bean code for a while now. My guess is that HTC is already working on the Android 4.1 update and will try to get that out as soon as possible.
HTC may also push out a few smaller updated between now and then to resolve some of the issues that have been pointed out. The HTC one S is a flagship device. Support for the phone will not dwindle until HTC pushed out a newer handset.
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I don't think we need to worry about updated for our phones. HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates. According to Google, handset makers have had their hands on Jelly Bean code for a while now. My guess is that HTC is already working on the Android 4.1 update and will try to get that out as soon as possible.
HTC may also push out a few smaller updated between now and then to resolve some of the issues that have been pointed out. The HTC one S is a flagship device. Support for the phone will not dwindle until HTC pushed out a newer handset.
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And a lot of the time, its T-Mobile who holds out on the update while they "double check" everything.
I know on the amaze we had a leaked Rom that was exactly the same as the ota almost a month before the official ota was put put by T-Mobile.
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TheEndHK said:
I think they only spend time on One X/AT&T and leave us behind.
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No... this is not possible...
I will wait one more month than I will come back with SAMSUNG!
More update, crash fix, NO S-OFF, more ROM...
The ONE S is an EXCELENT smartphone, I love it, but HTC release bug fix in too much time!!!!!
Take a look to SAMSUNG... why success?
Because SAMSUNG listen the users!
Since now for the GS3 there was released about 3 update to fix all the remaining bugs!
I love my HTC ONE S but the WEB BROWSER SUCK! The Gallery SUCK! The TREE DOT MENU' SUCK (sometime are nice but most of the time are unnecessary)...
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HTC is the best OEM as pushing out updates.
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...we are still waiting...
If u don't like it sell it don't make a rant on here
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xxquicksh0txx said:
Same here, I don't understand why people buy a HTC phone and then complain about sense.
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It's pretty simple, too...don't like Sense? So flash one of the many non-Sense ROMs (pun not intended)---CM9, for one...If you don't want to have to flash and you hate Sense, well THEN you probably bought the wrong phone.
As an aside, my brother got T-MO US to give him a FREE SGSIII yesterday with his 2 year upgrade (he only qualified for partial upgrade at the time). THAT is why I love T-Mobile...customer service can be very helpful and nice sometimes.
We got XDA....we fix our own bugs...HAHAHA
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Skyman1 said:
The TREE DOT MENU' SUCK
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Welcome to ICS, 'tard.
your title is a little misleading
will we see an official rom soon 2 for us 9505 users
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=GT-I9505G
I don't think that helps us one bit. Hope I'm proven wrong, though.
Nice ty.:angel:
I wonder what Ill get first Wednesday. Windows 8.1 preview or stock Android 4.2.2 for I9505 =]
Aerys said:
Nice ty.:angel:
I wonder what Ill get first Wednesday. Windows 8.1 preview or stock Android 4.2.2 for I9505 =]
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Do you even have to ask that? Android, of course! :victory:
any leaks yet team..
SALAH100 said:
any leaks yet team..
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My friend, wait 1 day and we probably have official rom
How to use the code?
John Chu said:
How to use the code?
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Dial *#THE CODE# and your phone will change to GT-I9505G
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Dial *#THE CODE# and your phone will change to GT-I9505G
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Careful now, he might actually believe it.
I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
kingzain900 said:
I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
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For someone like me, it's not about running the stock AOSP on S4. It's about how it can improve the AOSP based custom roms like CM, PA, etc.
Hopefully, Samsung/Google will release proper source codes as quickly as for Nexus devices so that custom roms can run better on S4.
I've been using GS3 (i9305), mainly with CM for the last 10 months or so. It works ok as a daily driver, but not as well as it could've been, mainly because not all the necessary sources are available/released.
I tried Nexus 4 for about a couple of weeks and running CM was definately more fluid/enjoyable than on GS3.
But I couldn't really get used to not having the physical home button and lack of storage space. If GS4 Google Edition is released with exact same hardward as normal i9505, then this will be almost perfect - custom roms running as well as on Nexus devices with physical home button and MicroSD slot.
kingzain900 said:
I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
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In simple terms.
Google gets to have its vanilla version of Android on a flagship device without having to subsidize the cost of designing the hardware.
Unlike Nexus devices where Google invests R&D money to make the hardware... having Samsung and HTC put a version of Stock Android on the device pretty much absolves Google of any financial liability in relation to hardware development.
Nexus devices are traditionally spartan... and Google likes it that way... but what if mobile manufacturers want to have nexus compatible device with all the bells and whistles... they will all compete on who has the most Nexus compatible device.
This will attract developers and customers that prefer the stock Google experience
Bear in mind also Google is still developing their Motorola flagship device... this has handset makers very jittery.
Having a GE also puts the latest Android on a device and puts pressure on the makers of the device to move build it out into their MAIN version of Android.
So Key lime pie or 4.3 should come quicker on the HTC and S4 than would be tradtional.
Another issues is transparency.
For too long handset makers have said "our phone can't run the latest version of Android" when we know they lie.
Samsung has been good.. the S2 has JB while the HTC Sensation 4G has all but been dumped by their makers.
Companies that have a Google edition will have that extra edge in longevity.
Gillion said:
In simple terms.
Google gets to have its vanilla version of Android on a flagship device without having to subsidize the cost of designing the hardware.
Unlike Nexus devices where Google invests R&D money to make the hardware... having Samsung and HTC put a version of Stock Android on the device pretty much absolves Google of any financial liability in relation to hardware development.
Nexus devices are traditionally spartan... and Google likes it that way... but what if mobile manufacturers want to have nexus compatible device with all the bells and whistles... they will all compete on who has the most Nexus compatible device.
This will attract developers and customers that prefer the stock Google experience
Bear in mind also Google is still developing their Motorola flagship device... this has handset makers very jittery.
Having a GE also puts the latest Android on a device and puts pressure on the makers of the device to move build it out into their MAIN version of Android.
So Key lime pie or 4.3 should come quicker on the HTC and S4 than would be tradtional.
Another issues is transparency.
For too long handset makers have said "our phone can't run the latest version of Android" when we know they lie.
Samsung has been good.. the S2 has JB while the HTC Sensation 4G has all but been dumped by their makers.
Companies that have a Google edition will have that extra edge in longevity.
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Very good answer. Makes sense. It'd be exciting to see what Motorola device Google releases. MoNex (MoNey?).
kingzain900 said:
Very good answer. Makes sense. It'd be exciting to see what Motorola device Google releases. MoNex (MoNey?).
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This could be the much rumored Google X Phone...
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Theshawty said:
Careful now, he might actually believe it.
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Easy, everyone knows that to work, he'd to input: *#THE SOURCE CODE# , otherwiste it will not work :laugh:
what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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Don't think I'd want to eat a phone, actually.
Bet it'll be up noonish, USA time, which means roughly 18.00-19.00 Brit time.
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what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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I think it can be all day in USA
Aerys said:
I think it can be all day in USA
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yeah thats right all day i remember how nexus 4 was eaten within an hour
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yeah thats right all day i remember how nexus 4 was eaten within an hour
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I hope we get firmware today
I thought it would be good to start a threat about kitkat anticipation and also when a ROM is spotted we would have a place to talk about it. A lot of people are porting the HTC one ROMs to the one x and there is some CM kitkat ROMs already on the HTC one. So maybe we can find someone to port it soon. Its already apparent that the sense versions are behind . the HTC one has 4.3 and sense 5.5.. Pure android seems like it will be the only way for new ROMs
I feel as though we should leave kitkat alone and mainly focus on the roms at hand, but I definately would not mind a nice piece of chocolate if you catch my drift
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nlsolja123 said:
Pure android seems like it will be the only way for new ROMs
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I'm not sure why you see that. There were at least 2 or 3 devs that ported Sense 5 over from the M7 to the EVITA (before HTC released Sense 5 for us officially). As long as there is interest by devs, I don't see why they wouldn't do the same again for KitKat and Sense 5.5. True, the hardware hurdles will be an issue. But AOSP ROMs will experience their share, as well.
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I'm not sure why you see that. There were at least 2 or 3 devs that ported Sense 5 over from the M7 to the EVITA (before HTC released Sense 5 for us officially). As long as there is interest by devs, I don't see why they wouldn't do the same again for KitKat and Sense 5.5. True, the hardware hurdles will be an issue. But AOSP ROMs will experience their share, as well.
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Team Venom has released the Viper ROM for the HTC One. They released ViperXL for ours. Seems like they have all the necessary talent and tools to put together a new ViperXL release with 4.3/Sense5.5
I am pretty sure Kit Kat is going to be a while. It would be really cool to get a 4.3 Rom good enough to be a daily driver. They are getting there. We still have a healthy Dev community.
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As far as 4.3 being a daily driver, I'm running PAC 4.3.1 with touched 6.1 kernel with no problems, I use it as a daily driver. I've been on 4.3 maybe a month with little to no problems. So I think 4.4 is looking good for our phones
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While you're having success with that ROM there have been several problems plaguing 4.3 ROMs, that's what's being referred to.
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Well here's the first kitkat rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535315
Also saw in some other thread a screenshot of Evita running CM11 (H8's screenshot, I think), so yeah. :good:
4.4 Kit-Kat is officially coming to The HTC One in January of 2014 So hopefully we see a nice port come to our One X/L
Unfortunately it's pretty difficult to port from the One due to the different chipsets and resolution, it just doesn't work properly. A port would need to come from a similar device, like maybe the One Mini.
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HTC releases their updates on time. Blame your carrier for the delays
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I've read in many places that Evita is going to get even an Android 5 update, so "Why so disappointed?"...
After all, it has been a flagship phone for several months and is still a powerful one in the markets
I seriously doubt this phone will ever get Android 5.0 as an official update, I'd put money on it. I'm not sure where you read that but it's highly unlikely. We're probably not even going to officially see 4.3 or 4.4.
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Scozzar said:
I'm fairly certain that the Evita is done for updates. Also, HTC has a horrendous record of keeping their promises when it comes to release dates. Remember that update we were supposed to get at the end of November? Remember how it wasn't released until march nearly 5 months later? I do. That's when I rooted my phone.
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That was the carriers fault. Adding all that bloatwear takes time dontcha-know.
And I was talking about a Port from the One by our devs here to the One X.
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I've read in many places that Evita is going to get even an Android 5 update, so "Why so disappointed?"...
After all, it has been a flagship phone for several months and is still a powerful one in the markets
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No we are supposedly getting a Sense 5 Update (Android 4.2 from Android 4.1.1 I think) But AT&T won't get it till next November probably
You're not quite right about that. HTC push their own non-carrier updates to their non branded/Asian models and they do have a terrible record of keeping promises and getting them out on time, if at all.
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Hey guys I have the international version but both versions seem to be abandoned by HTC but there is a glimmer of hope as Google want 4.4 pushing out to all devices capable of running it so hopefully HTC will update all the one series phones eventually.
Google can't even get their own nexus (galaxy) updated. What makes you think they can make HTC do it. This phone won't get any more updates. The next HTC one will be out soon and all focus will go for that.
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shoredroid
anyone here running shoredroid 4.4 on their at&t one x?
just flashed mine last night after unlock/root/s-off/ and I can't believe how much more smooth and fast my phone feels.
now I just have to order a new screen to replace this cracked junk!
guess thats what I get for an $80 craigslist phone huh?
undivide said:
anyone here running shoredroid 4.4 on their at&t one x?
just flashed mine last night after unlock/root/s-off/ and I can't believe how much more smooth and fast my phone feels.
now I just have to order a new screen to replace this cracked junk!
guess thats what I get for an $80 craigslist phone huh?
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All of the kitkat roms are pretty darn smooth. I had some SD card/signal loss/reboot problems on shoredroid so I moved to the CM 11 nightlies. Latest nightly working perfectly so far *crosses fingers*