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CM mostly coming to S4!

Steve Kondik recently put up a post on Google+ in response to websites in general that were stating no CM support for the Galaxy S4. He stated that cyanogenmod definitely will support the S4, and hopefully this should put to rest all the rumors on this.
Source: https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/U2Phq8KowGQ

ilabs said:
Steve Kondik recently put up a post on Google+ in response to websites in general that were stating no CM support for the Galaxy S4. He stated that cyanogenmod definitely will support the S4, and hopefully this should put to rest all the rumors on this.
Source: https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/U2Phq8KowGQ
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I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.

boodies said:
I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.
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I try and keep my phones for a long time. I'm still using the i9000 and its been almost 3 years now. CM/AOSP is the one thing that helps keep my phone up to date even after the manufacturer stops supporting the device.

He has Mentioned S4 but which S4 GT-I9500 or GT-I9505

nitinvaid said:
He has Mentioned S4 but which S4 GT-I9500 or GT-I9505
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I'm sure it would be both variants, else he would have mentioned it.

ilabs said:
I'm sure it would be both variants, else he would have mentioned it.
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let's hope you are true

The one thing I love in Samsung phones over others is the fact that it has a buttload of software features. Now, that being said, what I love more is running AOSP on it or CM which means losing those features BUT if you've heard of dual boot....
Just seeing that post gave me a smile, I know what my next phone is

Cool...:good:

It's highly unlikely that the GT-I9500 [Exynos] variant would get stable CM if Samsung remain stingy with the codes required.
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ilabs said:
I try and keep my phones for a long time. I'm still using the i9000 and its been almost 3 years now. CM/AOSP is the one thing that helps keep my phone up to date even after the manufacturer stops supporting the device.
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The only reason you're using cm is cause you're using an old phone that doesn't have any special features of touchwiz that came after the S3 and Note 2. I had the GS1, and I couldn't handle using stock for that. But after the S3, things have changed. Now Samsung offers much more on top of being the most stable and smoothest. There is no reason to lose features, even simple features such as MHL is gone with paranoid android. I am back on stock and can't be happier knowing things are smooth and no stupid bugs.

^^^^^^ totally disagree. May lose some Sammy features, but CM /AOSP offers the best customization and smoothness.
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scottspa74 said:
^^^^^^ totally disagree. May lose some Sammy features, but CM /AOSP offers the best customization and smoothness.
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It's all a matter of taste. Samsung has been including lots of customizations to its Touchwiz interface for the past couple of years.
Customizations that were only included on CM before are now present on Touchwiz and I'm really glad Samsung is paying attention to what people want.
That's my understating of it anyway. I'll still flash CM ROM's when a new Android comes just to see how it is before having to wait for Samsung to update it.

boodies said:
The only reason you're using cm is cause you're using an old phone that doesn't have any special features of touchwiz that came after the S3 and Note 2. I had the GS1, and I couldn't handle using stock for that. But after the S3, things have changed. Now Samsung offers much more on top of being the most stable and smoothest. There is no reason to lose features, even simple features such as MHL is gone with paranoid android. I am back on stock and can't be happier knowing things are smooth and no stupid bugs.
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Yes, I agree with you on that. Samsung does stuff in enough features that you may not need CM/AOSP. But my concern is still about after Samsung stops supporting the handset for android upgrades. I doubt I would have been able to run my i9000 on GB till now.

boodies said:
I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.
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This times 500000000000 billion. Do not care about CM one bit.
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Why not have the best of both worlds? Use the handset with stock for the first year or so, and then when Samsung is getting slow on the updates (or stopping) start rolling with AOSP. In a similar way when I built my computer I ran my processor and GPU like normal for a few years. After that, I started overclocking to help keep pace with games and stuff. That is, unless you intend to upgrade every year in which case it won't matter as much.

Masonfield said:
Why not have the best of both worlds? Use the handset with stock for the first year or so, and then when Samsung is getting slow on the updates (or stopping) start rolling with AOSP..
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Agreed. To me that's the biggest upside of AOSP ROMs, having the latest version of Android. When you've always got the latest software it's a lot easier to hold onto your hardware for a while longer. I plan to stick with stock for quite a while.

boodies said:
I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.
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barondebxl said:
This times 500000000000 billion. Do not care about CM one bit.
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Then why even bother to post your obvious disdain here.. Couldn't resist the opportunity?
There are those of us that are looking forward to it..
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But I doubt CM will still have the hand/eye gesture features.

scottspa74 said:
^^^^^^ totally disagree. May lose some Sammy features, but CM /AOSP offers the best customization and smoothness.
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Not necessarily. From my experience, touchwiz based ROMs get better battery life, stability etc. than CM. Or at worse, it's barely noticeable, even if such differences do exist. And you miss out on awesome dev - like Perseus on AOSP (best kernel for Note 2/SGS3 IMHO).

Can't wait to overclock an overclocked CPU with some CM!

Galaxy S4 Google Edition

The Google edition of this phone looks incredible, although its really expensive. I don't know if its even worth it, when ROMs like AOKP are available. I have a few issues with the idea of buying it or the desire to do so.
When the Google edition comes out, will the device even be able to use the hardware like the IR blaster? Also, will users on the ATT and other models be able to flash the ROM/firmware anyway?
What do you guys think? Are there any other advantages to the Google edition?
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No IR support. Rumor has it for 4.3 release supposedly. If you don't have the Google edition you can't install it on none google versions and you won't get updates from Google. However I am sure there will be Dev who port it for the telco vendor versions to work.

That's so strange that they'd even consider selling hardware with components that aren't supported. So besides stock jelly bean (which doesn't even have the features of AOKP), the Google version has almost no advantages? And for more than three times the price? I saw earlier that they're on pre-order on eBay for $850. What's the point? I must be missing something.
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This is the point, the Google Edition devices are meant to be developer friendly and showcase stock vanilla android...the IR blaster is something thats proprietary hence no AOSP code is available for it (stock android), drivers/source needs to be released for those components... the Google Edition devices are bootloader unlockeable unlike the ATT version (ours uses a bypass exploit to install custom things which by all accounts has been patched in a future OTA due to be released)....also they come factory sim unlocked...they will get Google Updates first before carrier branded devices, think of them as Nexuses without the Nexus name. I won't be getting a GE S4 as I have a Nexus and will wait for the next Nexus, however I'm excited to see the GE released as it means AOSP code will drop, this will help devs tremendously in fixing issues such as bluetooth.

Dankchild said:
That's so strange that they'd even consider selling hardware with components that aren't supported. So besides stock jelly bean (which doesn't even have the features of AOKP), the Google version has almost no advantages? And for more than three times the price? I saw earlier that they're on pre-order on eBay for $850. What's the point? I must be missing something.
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It's less about the phone itself.
1. Having a stock rom version appeals to many advanced users, such as us on XDA. It has the stock experience, without the nexus line limitations, such as the SD card. It makes their die hard fans happy and most of us are very enthusiastic about it.
2. It is a key strategic move by Google. By allowing other manufacturers to sell "stock" versions on the play store, Google can move ahead and sell Motorola phones from the store without appearing to be biased to their own hardware. They're telling consumers they have options.

Unlike Apple this is what I like about Google. Give me options and let me decide which I want.

WarbyParker said:
It's less about the phone itself.
1. Having a stock rom version appeals to many advanced users, such as us on XDA. It has the stock experience, without the nexus line limitations, such as the SD card. It makes their die hard fans happy and most of us are very enthusiastic about it.
2. It is a key strategic move by Google. By allowing other manufacturers to sell "stock" versions on the play store, Google can move ahead and sell Motorola phones from the store without appearing to be biased to their own hardware. They're telling consumers they have options.
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Idk about you guys but I find this amazing! I have fallen in love with the ir blaster I wish they would have it in the Google s4
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Rumor is Android 4.3 will have native support for IR blasters.
I'd rather have an RF capability though.

I'm in a bind myself of what to do with the Google Edition S4. While I know that with this available to developers, ROMs will become much more stable, but really I'm not interested in that. I want to be able to completely flash my S4 to the Google Edition essentially, the biggest thing being able to receive OTA updates from Google. I imagine just downloading an image of the GE S4 and just flash it with Odin for example, and just go.
Is that realistically something that could happen, or is that just completely out of the question? I'm trying to avoid having to drop $650 on the same phone I already have, but don't want to wait to find out I can't do what I want, then be stuck with another Nexus 4 fiasco, where it's back-ordered for 2 months

Simonzi said:
I'm in a bind myself of what to do with the Google Edition S4. While I know that with this available to developers, ROMs will become much more stable, but really I'm not interested in that. I want to be able to completely flash my S4 to the Google Edition essentially, the biggest thing being able to receive OTA updates from Google. I imagine just downloading an image of the GE S4 and just flash it with Odin for example, and just go.
Is that realistically something that could happen, or is that just completely out of the question? I'm trying to avoid having to drop $650 on the same phone I already have, but don't want to wait to find out I can't do what I want, then be stuck with another Nexus 4 fiasco, where it's back-ordered for 2 months
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Totally in the same boat. I got this S4 last week and I'm already hearing that I'd have to drop $650US for the GE
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Personally I would not drop 650 on a phone you already have. You want the Google experience install CM10.1. You want touchwiz and IR you can go back to Samsung ROM. Plus I am sure DEVs will have the image ported to our phones. Its a waste of money imo. I would rather save that money for the new nexus or x phone.
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How does google know exactly which devices are "Nexus" devices? Do they send the updates out to a list based on known Nexus/GE IMEIs, or is there something in the ROM that sends a beacon to them asking for the udpates, or?
I'm really hoping I can just flash the GE ROM to my S4 and slip into the update loop like the rest of the Nexus/GE owners.

Jashyk said:
How does google know exactly which devices are "Nexus" devices? Do they send the updates out to a list based on known Nexus/GE IMEIs, or is there something in the ROM that sends a beacon to them asking for the udpates, or?
I'm really hoping I can just flash the GE ROM to my S4 and slip into the update loop like the rest of the Nexus/GE owners.
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I can't speculate on how the phone actually gets the ROM update and/or how the almighty Google gods know which device it is, but I do know that when people got their LG Optimus G's running the Nexus 4 software, they were able to pull down OTAs from Google directly.

How many times can the same conversation be had on this site?
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thatbigmoose said:
I can't speculate on how the phone actually gets the ROM update and/or how the almighty Google gods know which device it is, but I do know that when people got their LG Optimus G's running the Nexus 4 software, they were able to pull down OTAs from Google directly.
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Well that sounds pretty awesome, definitely gives us hope then!

I don't know why anyone is surprised about price and features. Samsung is not going to alienate the carriers that sell 99% of their phones.

So isn't it supposed to be available today? Any know where and how to purchase one
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plwalsh88 said:
How many times can the same conversation be had on this site?
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Lol - over and over until the release the damn thing and we know for sure ...
Thursday isn't it ?
G. :angel:

Seriuosly when is this going to be released? I thought it was today too. I was trying to order it last night at midnight

Yes I was excited of purchasing it today but its on the 26th that it will go on sale.. :banghead: oh well two more days
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[BOUNTY] Android Lollipop for the One X

I have been trying really hard to replace my One XL with a new Lollipop enabled phone, but have been hard pressed to find a replacement. the OPO is brilliant, but is a bit too big for me (though I might still cave in).
So, considering I am planning to stick with my One XL for sometime, I'm trying to see if we can get devs interested in porting Lollipop over. The biggest advantage that I'm looking for is performance and battery life boost - due to Volta and ART, which may extend the usefulness of the One XL considerably.
Why should you be excited for Lollipop on the One X
Material Design UI - http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
ART and Project Volta - http://www.latinpost.com/articles/16930/20140711/android-l-battery-life-glance-project-volta-art.htm
REQUIREMENTS:
Be the first person to create the following:
AOSP Android 5.0 OR Cyanogenmod 12 port OR Paranoid Android Lollipop port for the One XL
Voice+data (atleast HSDPA), Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC
ART instead of Dalvik
Project Volta enabled
Make a post in this thread with the following:
Proving it works with appropriate photos and/or screenshots
Providing full step-by-step instructions for which anyone else can follow
Confirmation from at least 2 persons on these forums that the ROM is working
Claim your bounty via PM from pledger(s)
Payment(s) will be processed between each member and the bounty collector via PM on an individual basis.
LIST OF PLEDGES
sandys1 - 10$
eyemyt - 15$.
obsidian_eclipse - 15$

I'm in. My pledge 15$.
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great to see the ball rolling !

Are bounties payable via PayPal? We all live in different countries and that would probably be the safest and most effective way of doing it.
If the above features can be worked in (im tempted to make it harder and say have Sense added to - because I like sense) then I'll add $15 to the sum so far.
An indication from a developer on the scale of the job and its setbacks, realism and expectations too would be appreciated early on.

obsidian_eclipse said:
Are bounties payable via PayPal? We all live in different countries and that would probably be the safest and most effective way of doing it.
If the above features can be worked in (im tempted to make it harder and say have Sense added to - because I like sense) then I'll add $15 to the sum so far.
An indication from a developer on the scale of the job and its setbacks, realism and expectations too would be appreciated early on.
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IMHO Sense is closed source - what has happened till now is that binaries of Sense UI have been made to run on newer and newer Android versions (going to 4.3 I think). However, as the newer Android diverges from what was the original intended Android version (for Sense), it becomes harder and harder. I think Sense development has pretty much stagnated on the Evita because of this.
I would say it will be a little hard and unrealistic for Sense to be ported over as such - but I think you will love what Lollipop and Material Design UI has tooffer. If you have the change to spare, I think it would be a good bet !
Last time around (in the Evita bootloader unlock), we transferred the bounty using Paypal. I'm planning to do mine that way this time as well.
Take a look at http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/

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IMHO Sense is closed source - what has happened till now is that binaries of Sense UI have been made to run on newer and newer Android versions (going to 4.3 I think). However, as the newer Android diverges from what was the original intended Android version (for Sense), it becomes harder and harder. I think Sense development has pretty much stagnated on the Evita because of this.
I would say it will be a little hard and unrealistic for Sense to be ported over as such - but I think you will love what Lollipop and Material Design UI has tooffer. If you have the change to spare, I think it would be a good bet !
Last time around (in the Evita bootloader unlock), we transferred the bounty using Paypal. I'm planning to do mine that way this time as well.
Take a look at http://www.wired.com/2014/11/googles-quest-write-rulebook-interactive-design/
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You mean AOSP.
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CyanJustice said:
You mean AOSP.
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Not sure what you mean. I was replying to the poster above who was asking for the possibility of Sense being ported to lollipop on this phone.

Ok lollipop does look pretty great sans sense so it sounds like a good investment, provided a reasonable time scale for it's production, so hopefully the pledges will come in.

sandys1 said:
Not sure what you mean. I was replying to the poster above who was asking for the possibility of Sense being ported to lollipop on this phone.
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Oh yeah he did, my bad lol
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CM12 work has started - https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android/tree/cm-12.0 Now, it's upto a dev to volunteer for the evita!

Waiting for the good news.....
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paras33 said:
Waiting for the good news.....
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this is not for the evita - this is for nexus 5 and newer variants. In fact if we do not convice someone to build a CM12 variant in time, our phone will be dropped from any nightly builds
http://www.landofdroid.com/2014/cm12-roadmap-leaked-exciting/
Device cutoff based on specifications. We expect 512mb devices to be fine, but the issue here will be GPU and non-Kitkat binaries. Expect a hard line here drawn in the sand with respect to device support. This will not be pretty for many older generation devices (pre-ICS).
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Which is why this bounty was created in hope of accelerating that development.

sandys1 said:
this is not for the evita - this is for nexus 5 and newer variants. In fact if we do not convice someone to build a CM12 variant in time, our phone will be dropped from any nightly builds
http://www.landofdroid.com/2014/cm12-roadmap-leaked-exciting/
Which is why this bounty was created in hope of accelerating that development.
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Well psh, we're definitely not pre-ICS.
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I've always been of the opinion that HTC could have quite easily given us KitKat officially but they wanted to push people to upgrade unnecessarily. From the way lollipop sounds android promote it as being faster and more efficient than either KitKat or jellybean so if anything it should be pretty decent on our hardware.

obsidian_eclipse said:
I've always been of the opinion that HTC could have quite easily given us KitKat officially but they wanted to push people to upgrade unnecessarily. From the way lollipop sounds android promote it as being faster and more efficient than either KitKat or jellybean so if anything it should be pretty decent on our hardware.
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You hit the nail right on the head there, that's exactly why they don't provide official updates. They're a business and profit is their bottom line. If they provide updates for older devices then the owners of those older devices have less reason to upgrade, less people upgrading means less profit for them.
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timmaaa said:
You hit the nail right on the head there, that's exactly why they don't provide official updates. They're a business and profit is their bottom line. If they provide updates for older devices then the owners of those older devices have less reason to upgrade, less people upgrading means less profit for them.
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Yeah but you'd think people will upgrade naturally because of better hardware and specs, etc.
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CyanJustice said:
Yeah but you'd think people will upgrade naturally because of better hardware and specs, etc.
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Some do, but others are more focused on squeezing as much out of their current device as they can.
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Some do, but others are more focused on squeezing as much out of their current device as they can.
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Exactly, that's why I still have my HTC Inspire 4G, HTC One X, and my new LG G3. No sense in getting rid of the old ones when they work great with all of the ROM development that occurs! That old Inspire works great as a walkman while out in the mountains!

should just be happy with the kk roms and cm11 with gapps until something better comes out. I really like the 5.0 interface but it is really nothing ground breaking

Agreed...only thing to look to is if any real performance improvement....
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Snapdragon 820 = AOSP?

Quite simply, from what I'm reading about S6, and Exynos, the main reason for lack of major AOSP ROMS (CM13 has been finally ported), is the idea that Exynos is not documented so coding for it is difficult.
Knowing now that Snapdragon 820 is a Qualcom chip, which apparently is the most common SoC used for phones, should we expect to see a lot of AOSP based ROMs?
I am very used to Vanilla Android, and I don't think I could deal with TouchWiz, I like CM Theme Engine, and RRO Layers, so the big reason for my question is based on the hope that the probability of non-TouchWiz ROMs is high.
Also, I had a moto x 2014 and I've come to fall in love with AMOLED, and would like to stick to a small form factor 5 to 5.1 inches, combined with healthy ROM community, I'm kind of hoping S7 with SD820 might be the phone for me.
Please don't say "If you like Stock don't buy a Samsung", I get it, but it looks like maybe that stigma might not hold up soon if the ROM cookers are supportive.
Thanks!

I'm not sure on the international versions, but I know most carrier versions of the Note 4, S6, Note 5, etc. never got unlocked bootloaders in the first place, let alone custom ROMs. Knox is killer.

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I'm not sure on the international versions, but I know most carrier versions of the Note 4, S6, Note 5, etc. never got unlocked bootloaders in the first place, let alone custom ROMs. Knox is killer.
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Tmobile variants of all the phones you listed are bootloader unlocked. Knox has never stopped anything.
@Shemploo yes more than likely AOSP roms will be available for the snapdragons. I'm betting even exynos variants will get it although probably a little later.

I don't do carrier contracts so I'd most likely look/hope for a developer/pure edition of the S7.
The Edge does not really interest me, unless they figured out some cool things to do with the curved screen that are actually useful.
I'd much rather have a fingerprint reader, and front sensors like the Moto's, I love waving my hand in front of the display to have it wake up and tell me the time.
People go... you are a Jedi!?

Airtioteclint said:
Tmobile variants of all the phones you listed are bootloader unlocked. Knox has never stopped anything.
@Shemploo yes more than likely AOSP roms will be available for the snapdragons. I'm betting even exynos variants will get it although probably a little later.
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I know AT&T and Verizon are different stories, good to know it works for T-Mobile though.

Most if not all Sprint phones have unlocked bootloaders too. At least last time I checked!

Yes. However you got something wrong there. The reason why Qualcomm has all the fancy AOSP based ROMs (I say fancy because most people consider non aosp roms boring) is because of this. This is where QCOM releases their soruce code for the platforms. This makes fixing easier because you actually have the code. However exynos and all the other ones don't give a crap about the small percentage of their users that actually flash roms etc. Infact, they only want money. And guess what? ROMs = Longer device lifespan. That's why they don't release it. Thankfully enough there are some geniuses here on XDA that still are able to do the job for exynos! However, QCOM has allot better optimization with CM in terms of performance than with any other chipset. I live in the EU, which means Exynos. After already owning 2 exynos devices, I'm tired of the work that has to be done for them. I was lucky enough that both of them had Exynos chipsets that already had allot of devs mainly from other devices which made building possible for me.

@CTXz I suppose the closest thing to AOSP on Samsung devices QCom, or Exynos, is going to be Cyanogen right?
Would I be right to assume Cyanogen would be the first (possibly only) AOSP to build for Samsung?
In other words, would/could anyone build true AOSP based on Google's source code?
I understand both are considered AOSP, I'm asking cause from general experience with ROMs, when ROM is built on CM, they usually just build in the CM Theme Manager, and only the ROMs based on Google's code do things like RRO Layer support.

Shemploo said:
@CTXz I suppose the closest thing to AOSP on Samsung devices QCom, or Exynos, is going to be Cyanogen right?
Would I be right to assume Cyanogen would be the first (possibly only) AOSP to build for Samsung?
In other words, would/could anyone build true AOSP based on Google's source code?
I understand both are considered AOSP, I'm asking cause from general experience with ROMs, when ROM is built on CM, they usually just build in the CM Theme Manager, and only the ROMs based on Google's code do things like RRO Layer support.
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Ofcourse, infact that is up to the devs, however CyanogenMod is usually recommended over pure AOSP due it's great documentation, common updates, it's optimizations and tweaks above stock AOSP. It's also the simplest to get the hands on.
EDIT: It's also important to know that CM isn't just AOSP with a few apps. While CM is based on AOSP, it still has it's own community and is still a different ROM than AOSP mainly when it comes to the internal changes.

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CTXz said:
Ofcourse, infact that is up to the devs, however CyanogenMod is usually recommended over pure AOSP due it's great documentation, common updates, it's optimizations and tweaks above stock AOSP. It's also the simplest to get the hands on.
EDIT: It's also important to know that CM isn't just AOSP with a few apps. While CM is based on AOSP, it still has it's own community and is still a different ROM than AOSP mainly when it comes to the internal changes.
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After Cm started trying to push that you make an acct with them I will never use CM again. I know that people say Inc has no relation to... whatever non-Inc calls themselves, but I no longer trust any of them and would rather buy a Windows phone or iPhone before I run them on any phone of mine again.

knitler said:
After Cm started trying to push that you make an acct with them I will never use CM again. I know that people say Inc has no relation to... whatever non-Inc calls themselves, but I no longer trust any of them and would rather buy a Windows phone or iPhone before I run them on any phone of mine again.
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Um... CM =/= Cyanogen Inc
CM is a completely separate group that is not affected in any way. It's like XDA and GOogle. XDA is for developing and still both work on android. I know some people in the official CM group, all of them very friendly and none of it is affected by Cyanogen Inc. You're making yourself lies that aren't true. It's like blaming the entire CyanogenMod team because one dev for a specific device didn't fix the issue yet.

If CM is the main like, why not just get a Nexus and get it over with? You'll get CM right away.
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barondebxl said:
If CM is the main like, why not just get a Nexus and get it over with? You'll get CM right away.
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Because some people don't want a nexus

CTXz said:
Because some people don't want a nexus
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But if CM is what you look for, isn't a Nexus your best bet? Unless you want the S7 hardware.
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barondebxl said:
But if CM is what you look for, isn't a Nexus your best bet? Unless you want the S7 hardware.
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And cripple it with bad, forever-beta, with half the functionally misssing software.

Sure hope we get aosp!
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I thought it was primarily due to the 64 bit architecture that was the hold up with aosp on the s6. Buy I could be wrong. Been a while since I went looking.

barondebxl said:
But if CM is what you look for, isn't a Nexus your best bet? Unless you want the S7 hardware.
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That is a good argument, however many people DO actually go for the look/hardware and with that said. Afterall xda wouldn't be this big if you could use the word nexus for all excuses, right ?

CTXz said:
That is a good argument, however many people DO actually go for the look/hardware and with that said. Afterall xda wouldn't be this big if you could use the word nexus for all excuses, right ?
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Might want to get used to it as sooner or later it will only be nexus devices that are worked on.
Also what's the point of getting the device fore the hardware when aosp doesn't take advantage of the hardware? Aosp drivers don't compare to the stock ones.

When, Why?

Hello
For over one year we have the S6 . We still expect that developers lay us an AOSP ROM. CyanogenMod but we dodge ! And AOKP ? It's over?
Have you any news? Thank you in advance!
I think I'll leave Galaxy for Nexus !

Why bother for a cm full of bugs..just use a tw rom debloated and with a custom launcher.
S6 wont get any stable cm even in a few years. So just move on

just change title mate, it's against the rules do something like this.
no opensource = no cyano. it's like trying to build a rom without codes.

slawl said:
Hello
For over one year we have the S6 . We still expect that developers lay us an AOSP ROM. CyanogenMod but we dodge ! And AOKP ? It's over?
Have you any news? Thank you in advance!
I think I'll leave Galaxy for Nexus !
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Any device utilizing a Exyenos CPU is always a no-go for CM and never-ever good for any bug-free modding. Always & forever. I believe any rom Dev would tell you this.
Samsung's hardware imo is superior to Nexus, say what you will, but Samsung knows how to produce a quality handset. Too bad about the mod-ability! But hey, as you pointed out, there's always Nexus

The exynos chipset is always difficult to get a cyanogen build for, mainly cos Samsung never release sources which makes development very hard.
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thundastruck said:
Any device utilizing a Exyenos CPU is always a no-go for CM and never-ever good for any bug-free modding. Always & forever. I believe any rom Dev would tell you this.
Samsung's hardware imo is superior to Nexus, say what you will, but Samsung knows how to produce a quality handset. Too bad about the mod-ability! But hey, as you pointed out, there's always Nexus
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Except for the Nexus 10 which has an Exynos aswell.
Officially it has 5.1.1 but unofficial cm13, maybe Android N in the future.

XxM4tzexX said:
Except for the Nexus 10 which has an Exynos aswell.
Officially it has 5.1.1 but unofficial cm13, maybe Android N in the future.
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I never argued Exyenos can't/won't run/didn't have decent builds of CM; simply said it's a no-go meaning the end-user experience is inferior to devices that run it well e.g. devices with Qualcomm's CPU's.
Devices with Qualcomm/Snapdragon CPU's are usually the ones to go for. Look at the thread and compare rom's/cm of i9500 vs i9505 - BIG difference! :highfive: