CM mostly coming to S4! - Galaxy S 4 General

Steve Kondik recently put up a post on Google+ in response to websites in general that were stating no CM support for the Galaxy S4. He stated that cyanogenmod definitely will support the S4, and hopefully this should put to rest all the rumors on this.
Source: https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/U2Phq8KowGQ

ilabs said:
Steve Kondik recently put up a post on Google+ in response to websites in general that were stating no CM support for the Galaxy S4. He stated that cyanogenmod definitely will support the S4, and hopefully this should put to rest all the rumors on this.
Source: https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/U2Phq8KowGQ
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I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.

boodies said:
I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.
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I try and keep my phones for a long time. I'm still using the i9000 and its been almost 3 years now. CM/AOSP is the one thing that helps keep my phone up to date even after the manufacturer stops supporting the device.

He has Mentioned S4 but which S4 GT-I9500 or GT-I9505

nitinvaid said:
He has Mentioned S4 but which S4 GT-I9500 or GT-I9505
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I'm sure it would be both variants, else he would have mentioned it.

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I'm sure it would be both variants, else he would have mentioned it.
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let's hope you are true

The one thing I love in Samsung phones over others is the fact that it has a buttload of software features. Now, that being said, what I love more is running AOSP on it or CM which means losing those features BUT if you've heard of dual boot....
Just seeing that post gave me a smile, I know what my next phone is

Cool...:good:

It's highly unlikely that the GT-I9500 [Exynos] variant would get stable CM if Samsung remain stingy with the codes required.
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ilabs said:
I try and keep my phones for a long time. I'm still using the i9000 and its been almost 3 years now. CM/AOSP is the one thing that helps keep my phone up to date even after the manufacturer stops supporting the device.
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The only reason you're using cm is cause you're using an old phone that doesn't have any special features of touchwiz that came after the S3 and Note 2. I had the GS1, and I couldn't handle using stock for that. But after the S3, things have changed. Now Samsung offers much more on top of being the most stable and smoothest. There is no reason to lose features, even simple features such as MHL is gone with paranoid android. I am back on stock and can't be happier knowing things are smooth and no stupid bugs.

^^^^^^ totally disagree. May lose some Sammy features, but CM /AOSP offers the best customization and smoothness.
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^^^^^^ totally disagree. May lose some Sammy features, but CM /AOSP offers the best customization and smoothness.
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It's all a matter of taste. Samsung has been including lots of customizations to its Touchwiz interface for the past couple of years.
Customizations that were only included on CM before are now present on Touchwiz and I'm really glad Samsung is paying attention to what people want.
That's my understating of it anyway. I'll still flash CM ROM's when a new Android comes just to see how it is before having to wait for Samsung to update it.

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The only reason you're using cm is cause you're using an old phone that doesn't have any special features of touchwiz that came after the S3 and Note 2. I had the GS1, and I couldn't handle using stock for that. But after the S3, things have changed. Now Samsung offers much more on top of being the most stable and smoothest. There is no reason to lose features, even simple features such as MHL is gone with paranoid android. I am back on stock and can't be happier knowing things are smooth and no stupid bugs.
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Yes, I agree with you on that. Samsung does stuff in enough features that you may not need CM/AOSP. But my concern is still about after Samsung stops supporting the handset for android upgrades. I doubt I would have been able to run my i9000 on GB till now.

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I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.
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This times 500000000000 billion. Do not care about CM one bit.
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Why not have the best of both worlds? Use the handset with stock for the first year or so, and then when Samsung is getting slow on the updates (or stopping) start rolling with AOSP. In a similar way when I built my computer I ran my processor and GPU like normal for a few years. After that, I started overclocking to help keep pace with games and stuff. That is, unless you intend to upgrade every year in which case it won't matter as much.

Masonfield said:
Why not have the best of both worlds? Use the handset with stock for the first year or so, and then when Samsung is getting slow on the updates (or stopping) start rolling with AOSP..
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Agreed. To me that's the biggest upside of AOSP ROMs, having the latest version of Android. When you've always got the latest software it's a lot easier to hold onto your hardware for a while longer. I plan to stick with stock for quite a while.

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I'd personally stick to stock rom. It's the most stable and offers the most features.
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barondebxl said:
This times 500000000000 billion. Do not care about CM one bit.
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Then why even bother to post your obvious disdain here.. Couldn't resist the opportunity?
There are those of us that are looking forward to it..
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But I doubt CM will still have the hand/eye gesture features.

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^^^^^^ totally disagree. May lose some Sammy features, but CM /AOSP offers the best customization and smoothness.
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Not necessarily. From my experience, touchwiz based ROMs get better battery life, stability etc. than CM. Or at worse, it's barely noticeable, even if such differences do exist. And you miss out on awesome dev - like Perseus on AOSP (best kernel for Note 2/SGS3 IMHO).

Can't wait to overclock an overclocked CPU with some CM!

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Lack of development

Just curious...What's the deal with the lack of development with our tab...specifically with the wifi version? Are the developers more interested in other tabs or what? Development just started to pick up and then went dead.
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Just curious...What's the deal with the lack of development with our tab...specifically with the wifi version? Are the developers more interested in other tabs or what? Development just started to pick up and then went dead.
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I'm not a developer but speaking strickly as a tablet user I can honestly say this is the first tablet I have owned where I had no desire to modify it in any way. This tablet functions just the way I want it too right out of the box.
So for me , lack of development has never been an issue.
Have to admit, even though I rooted so I could use Apps2SD, my Note is fairly perfect just the way it is.
It could be that they're waiting for jelly bean.
And yeah, the note is pretty much perfect the way it is.
I will say that I had the same problem with my note GT 7000 (the phone) having the perfect GUI.
It would be nice to see some fast kernels and slim Roms though. Maybe some themes.
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It would be nice to see some fast kernels and slim Roms though. Maybe some themes.
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+1. Exactly my point. ROMs arent always aosp. With our tab, because of the s pen functionality, its a given that custom stock roms would make more sense. But stock roms can always be slimmed down and tweaked.
I have asked a few devs if they could consider developing for the Note 10.1. And they have all asked they have a very tight schedeule but maybe later ( Indiemega) and another said about the same but he would be glad to help (Wanam) if i liked to develop myself. And its really no point in just building something thats no better or diffrent from stock. And that would be what i would have come up with, i dont have any skills to see what MOD or TWEAK would fit nice and that doesnt interfere with some other tweak. Lets just hope for the best and maybe when prices goes down in a couple of months the devs start coming.
I too don't pretty much have any issue in the way my Note 10.1 performs. It is already cool. Plus the promised JB update will make it even better. So why bother developing anything for something that's bound to get better in near future?
Let's wait and see and in the meantime enjoy our precious
Im going to say this again... theres always a need for development. No matter how good the stock rom is we as a community need custom roms. Lol
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I don't feel the need for this tablet... Just waiting for Jelly Beans!
Also can't wait for the Note II!
Develop for those that really need it.
this is the first tablet where i've had where stock is pretty damn good. great battery life, snappy processor, no real bugs... other than some apps i don't need this thing is great as is. even overclocking wouldn't make much of a difference in my usage.
still i'd probably flash a good JB rom when ever they start rolling out.
Devs come super handy when the product you like so mucho gets dropped officially, say goodbye to sweet potatoe pie 6.0, unless you upgrade the hardware.
dont burn bridges man, we need devs in the later years, no doubt.
This thread may interest some of you,
[PETITION] Let's get some Exynos sources!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925709
spreading the good word

source code released for up coming 9505g google edition

will we see an official rom soon 2 for us 9505 users
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=GT-I9505G
I don't think that helps us one bit. Hope I'm proven wrong, though.
Nice ty.:angel:
I wonder what Ill get first Wednesday. Windows 8.1 preview or stock Android 4.2.2 for I9505 =]
Aerys said:
Nice ty.:angel:
I wonder what Ill get first Wednesday. Windows 8.1 preview or stock Android 4.2.2 for I9505 =]
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Do you even have to ask that? Android, of course! :victory:
any leaks yet team..
SALAH100 said:
any leaks yet team..
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My friend, wait 1 day and we probably have official rom
How to use the code?
John Chu said:
How to use the code?
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Dial *#THE CODE# and your phone will change to GT-I9505G
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Dial *#THE CODE# and your phone will change to GT-I9505G
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Careful now, he might actually believe it.
I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
kingzain900 said:
I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
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For someone like me, it's not about running the stock AOSP on S4. It's about how it can improve the AOSP based custom roms like CM, PA, etc.
Hopefully, Samsung/Google will release proper source codes as quickly as for Nexus devices so that custom roms can run better on S4.
I've been using GS3 (i9305), mainly with CM for the last 10 months or so. It works ok as a daily driver, but not as well as it could've been, mainly because not all the necessary sources are available/released.
I tried Nexus 4 for about a couple of weeks and running CM was definately more fluid/enjoyable than on GS3.
But I couldn't really get used to not having the physical home button and lack of storage space. If GS4 Google Edition is released with exact same hardward as normal i9505, then this will be almost perfect - custom roms running as well as on Nexus devices with physical home button and MicroSD slot.
kingzain900 said:
I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
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In simple terms.
Google gets to have its vanilla version of Android on a flagship device without having to subsidize the cost of designing the hardware.
Unlike Nexus devices where Google invests R&D money to make the hardware... having Samsung and HTC put a version of Stock Android on the device pretty much absolves Google of any financial liability in relation to hardware development.
Nexus devices are traditionally spartan... and Google likes it that way... but what if mobile manufacturers want to have nexus compatible device with all the bells and whistles... they will all compete on who has the most Nexus compatible device.
This will attract developers and customers that prefer the stock Google experience
Bear in mind also Google is still developing their Motorola flagship device... this has handset makers very jittery.
Having a GE also puts the latest Android on a device and puts pressure on the makers of the device to move build it out into their MAIN version of Android.
So Key lime pie or 4.3 should come quicker on the HTC and S4 than would be tradtional.
Another issues is transparency.
For too long handset makers have said "our phone can't run the latest version of Android" when we know they lie.
Samsung has been good.. the S2 has JB while the HTC Sensation 4G has all but been dumped by their makers.
Companies that have a Google edition will have that extra edge in longevity.
Gillion said:
In simple terms.
Google gets to have its vanilla version of Android on a flagship device without having to subsidize the cost of designing the hardware.
Unlike Nexus devices where Google invests R&D money to make the hardware... having Samsung and HTC put a version of Stock Android on the device pretty much absolves Google of any financial liability in relation to hardware development.
Nexus devices are traditionally spartan... and Google likes it that way... but what if mobile manufacturers want to have nexus compatible device with all the bells and whistles... they will all compete on who has the most Nexus compatible device.
This will attract developers and customers that prefer the stock Google experience
Bear in mind also Google is still developing their Motorola flagship device... this has handset makers very jittery.
Having a GE also puts the latest Android on a device and puts pressure on the makers of the device to move build it out into their MAIN version of Android.
So Key lime pie or 4.3 should come quicker on the HTC and S4 than would be tradtional.
Another issues is transparency.
For too long handset makers have said "our phone can't run the latest version of Android" when we know they lie.
Samsung has been good.. the S2 has JB while the HTC Sensation 4G has all but been dumped by their makers.
Companies that have a Google edition will have that extra edge in longevity.
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Very good answer. Makes sense. It'd be exciting to see what Motorola device Google releases. MoNex (MoNey?).
kingzain900 said:
Very good answer. Makes sense. It'd be exciting to see what Motorola device Google releases. MoNex (MoNey?).
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This could be the much rumored Google X Phone...
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Theshawty said:
Careful now, he might actually believe it.
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Easy, everyone knows that to work, he'd to input: *#THE SOURCE CODE# , otherwiste it will not work :laugh:
what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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Don't think I'd want to eat a phone, actually.
Bet it'll be up noonish, USA time, which means roughly 18.00-19.00 Brit time.
big_b0sss said:
what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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I think it can be all day in USA
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I think it can be all day in USA
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yeah thats right all day i remember how nexus 4 was eaten within an hour
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big_b0sss said:
yeah thats right all day i remember how nexus 4 was eaten within an hour
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I hope we get firmware today

RECRUITING for ATT HTC ONE PORT TO S4 DATA FIX

I have gained permission from geti (the maker of the international port of HTC one rom to the s4) as we all know we can run gt i9505 roms on our ATT galaxy s4s unfortunately data doesn't seem to work on our variant and it is confirmed working for the international version I would like to assemble a team of devs to fix the data issue on our device also wifi does not seem to work either most likely this is a kernel issue and as I don't have time to build all on my own id like to extend an offer to all the devs on here to help bring Data Sound and Wifi to our Devices hopefully we can have a working port soon thanks for all the help in advanced
here's a link to the original thread from I 9505 port u can flash it and test it using loki doki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2402208
Would love to see this progress more for the i337.
Why are so many people so happy to have an HTC Sense ROM on their Galaxy phones. Why not just buy an HTC phone instead?
Not trying to be a troublemaker. Just kind of wondering.
Are these folks who don't like AOSP & TW but are Samsung hardware lovers, or is there something super-duper special about Sense.
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Why are so many people so happy to have an HTC Sense ROM on their Galaxy phones. Why not just buy an HTC phone instead?
Not trying to be a troublemaker. Just kind of wondering.
Are these folks who don't like AOSP & TW but are Samsung hardware lovers, or is there something super-duper special about Sense.
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I love HTC. My first android was HTC dream (hope you have a good rest in the landfill).
But no microSD slot I a major killer for me.
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My first was an evo 4g after I came over from the dark side. Sense was my first Android experience. I do think htc and Sammy cross ports are great. Having options is never a bad thing.
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CZ Eddie said:
Why are so many people so happy to have an HTC Sense ROM on their Galaxy phones. Why not just buy an HTC phone instead?
Not trying to be a troublemaker. Just kind of wondering.
Are these folks who don't like AOSP & TW but are Samsung hardware lovers, or is there something super-duper special about Sense.
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For me, I love the look of sense, but I prefer samsung phones because they are the only one with removable backs, SD card slots, and believe it or not, I love the plastic feel. So yes, I am one of those people. Sense on a s3 or s4 Is awesome. Am not trying to be a trouble maker either. Just answering the question. I mean, maybe it HTC didn't put a 4 megapixel camera on the HTC one, then people wouldn't want sense on their s4.
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I mean, maybe it HTC didn't put a 4 megapixel camera on the HTC one, then people wouldn't want sense on their s4.
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So what about the camera then?
The code would be written for that special HTC camera and not the more "normal" Samsung camera.
to reply to all of your questions 1 AN HTC sense port gives us just another option for those of us who lack funds to stock up on the latest premium phones every 3 months for instance i was faced with the dilema of HTC 1 vs GS 4 and i picked the s4 for its megapixels and expandable memory but that does not change the fact that HTC sense is a beautiful rendering of the Android operating system the hardware in HTC one is what pushed me towards the s4 but why cant we have both via a port plus no one ever said no to having more roms lol
About this rom in regards to S4 i337 ATT variant
this rom is bootable on our i337's just flash and LOKI which is great camera works via 3d party apps also great TEXTS are received and sent and calls are also received
what isn't working is
SOUND
Data
SD Card
WIFI
CZ Eddie said:
Why are so many people so happy to have an HTC Sense ROM on their Galaxy phones. Why not just buy an HTC phone instead?
Not trying to be a troublemaker. Just kind of wondering.
Are these folks who don't like AOSP & TW but are Samsung hardware lovers, or is there something super-duper special about Sense.
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Because people have personal preference, desires, likes, etc... And want to do whatever they want with their device? Why are you so happy with the music you listen to that other people may not? Lol. I'd love to see a sense ROM on Samsung devices in the future. It's a complete change in manufactured OS. More variety, more to toy with, more to switch back and forth to and from. IMO, sense 5 is pretty cool and I'd use it before TW for sure. But I'm also satisfied with TW in my Note 3. Not so much on the S4 stock as it lags. In the end it's all preference. I've seen people say that their stock S4 hasn't the tiniest bit if lag while my first, second, third and fourth S4 all lagged equally on every TW ROM.
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Delakit said:
Because people have personal preference, desires, likes, etc... And want to do whatever they want with their device? Why are you so happy with the music you listen to that other people may not? Lol. I'd love to see a sense ROM on Samsung devices in the future. It's a complete change in manufactured OS. More variety, more to toy with, more to switch back and forth to and from. IMO, sense 5 is pretty cool and I'd use it before TW for sure. But I'm also satisfied with TW in my Note 3. Not so much on the S4 stock as it lags. In the end it's all preference. I've seen people say that their stock S4 hasn't the tiniest bit if lag while my first, second, third and fourth S4 all lagged equally on every TW ROM.
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Lol all good and all but ive been working on this solo and cant seem to grt data to work seems to be a radio issue
Holy crap this is awesome. If they can get this to be daily driver worthy... *drool*
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ill try too, what are you using kitchen? because I can get it working on my windows 8 with the Cygwin is there anything else I can try to compile this rom on?

New UI

Hope the new SGS7 will have a new UI
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ariofirstson said:
Hope the new SGS7 will have a new UI
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It probably will. I reckon it will be an evolution as opposed to an evolution. That's my hope anyway
Google have been working with Samsung the last year. Hopefully the've re-written TW from the ground up. Looking forward to this one..
Seems icon will be like this
I hope galaxy S7 UI is faster and smoother then Nexus 6P.
NOTE 5 Touchwiz is much better than Plain and boring stock android.i seriously dont know whats wrong with people how the hell they prefer terrible looking featureless stock android over touchwiz.
i dont think it will be changing to a better one , since samsung is doing the same thing over and over again.
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NOTE 5 Touchwiz is much better than Plain and boring stock android.i seriously dont know whats wrong with people how the hell they prefer terrible looking featureless stock android over touchwiz.
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Probably because TW has been literally the same for the past 8 years.
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If these are the real icons i like these.
I just hope they don't keep the white background as seen on the marshmallow's beta builds on the s6.
do you guys think this phone will be better than the Nexus 6P?
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do you guys think this phone will be better than the Nexus 6P?
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I guess it will be because of the collab rumors with google to smoothen the ui. This galaxy seems as if it is a polished s6.
Leonardohernandez98 said:
I guess it will be because of the collab rumors with google to smoothen the ui. This galaxy seems as if it is a polished s6.
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Would that make it easier to Developers to root?
XavierAD said:
Would that make it easier to Developers to root?
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I don't think so. I guess it will be the same
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It probably will. I reckon it will be an evolution as opposed to an evolution. That's my hope anyway
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Touchwiz will be the same polished turd it has always been.
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Touchwiz will be the same polished turd it has always been.
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It's a trade-off. Definitely not as smooth as stock android, but the features blow stock away.
Plus, with custom, Touchwiz-based ROMs and kernels you get the smoothness back. I don't hate it.
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NOTE 5 Touchwiz is much better than Plain and boring stock android.i seriously dont know whats wrong with people how the hell they prefer terrible looking featureless stock android over touchwiz.
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Coming from someone who had a note 5 and now a 6P, I can tell you that you are way wrong. Sounds like you haven't used a stock Android phone since KitKat.
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Coming from someone who had a note 5 and now a 6P, I can tell you that you are way wrong. Sounds like you haven't used a stock Android phone since KitKat.
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I mean he can't really be wrong, it's just his opinion.
Whether or not that opinion is based on recent AOSP roms is another story though...
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I mean he can't really be wrong, it's just his opinion.
Whether or not that opinion is based on recent AOSP roms is another story though...
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He said "Touchwiz is much better than Plain and boring stock android", making it sound like he was stating a fact. Normally I would have glossed over this as I knew what he meant, but then he said "i seriously dont know whats wrong with people how the hell they prefer terrible looking featureless stock android over touchwiz"
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Google have been working with Samsung the last year. Hopefully the've re-written TW from the ground up. Looking forward to this one..
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Makes no business sense. I heard that rumor many times without any actual proof. While I keep thinking about it. what incentives google has for helping Samsung? None!
It's not like Samsung has problems to sell phones, or Google will lose money if it doesn't help Samsung. For example, all nexus phone suffer from bad battery life. I have used 2 nexus, both were terrible batterylife. If GGogle was so good, they should first improve their own software implementation before helping others, right?

Snapdragon 820 = AOSP?

Quite simply, from what I'm reading about S6, and Exynos, the main reason for lack of major AOSP ROMS (CM13 has been finally ported), is the idea that Exynos is not documented so coding for it is difficult.
Knowing now that Snapdragon 820 is a Qualcom chip, which apparently is the most common SoC used for phones, should we expect to see a lot of AOSP based ROMs?
I am very used to Vanilla Android, and I don't think I could deal with TouchWiz, I like CM Theme Engine, and RRO Layers, so the big reason for my question is based on the hope that the probability of non-TouchWiz ROMs is high.
Also, I had a moto x 2014 and I've come to fall in love with AMOLED, and would like to stick to a small form factor 5 to 5.1 inches, combined with healthy ROM community, I'm kind of hoping S7 with SD820 might be the phone for me.
Please don't say "If you like Stock don't buy a Samsung", I get it, but it looks like maybe that stigma might not hold up soon if the ROM cookers are supportive.
Thanks!
I'm not sure on the international versions, but I know most carrier versions of the Note 4, S6, Note 5, etc. never got unlocked bootloaders in the first place, let alone custom ROMs. Knox is killer.
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I'm not sure on the international versions, but I know most carrier versions of the Note 4, S6, Note 5, etc. never got unlocked bootloaders in the first place, let alone custom ROMs. Knox is killer.
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Tmobile variants of all the phones you listed are bootloader unlocked. Knox has never stopped anything.
@Shemploo yes more than likely AOSP roms will be available for the snapdragons. I'm betting even exynos variants will get it although probably a little later.
I don't do carrier contracts so I'd most likely look/hope for a developer/pure edition of the S7.
The Edge does not really interest me, unless they figured out some cool things to do with the curved screen that are actually useful.
I'd much rather have a fingerprint reader, and front sensors like the Moto's, I love waving my hand in front of the display to have it wake up and tell me the time.
People go... you are a Jedi!?
Airtioteclint said:
Tmobile variants of all the phones you listed are bootloader unlocked. Knox has never stopped anything.
@Shemploo yes more than likely AOSP roms will be available for the snapdragons. I'm betting even exynos variants will get it although probably a little later.
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I know AT&T and Verizon are different stories, good to know it works for T-Mobile though.
Most if not all Sprint phones have unlocked bootloaders too. At least last time I checked!
Yes. However you got something wrong there. The reason why Qualcomm has all the fancy AOSP based ROMs (I say fancy because most people consider non aosp roms boring) is because of this. This is where QCOM releases their soruce code for the platforms. This makes fixing easier because you actually have the code. However exynos and all the other ones don't give a crap about the small percentage of their users that actually flash roms etc. Infact, they only want money. And guess what? ROMs = Longer device lifespan. That's why they don't release it. Thankfully enough there are some geniuses here on XDA that still are able to do the job for exynos! However, QCOM has allot better optimization with CM in terms of performance than with any other chipset. I live in the EU, which means Exynos. After already owning 2 exynos devices, I'm tired of the work that has to be done for them. I was lucky enough that both of them had Exynos chipsets that already had allot of devs mainly from other devices which made building possible for me.
@CTXz I suppose the closest thing to AOSP on Samsung devices QCom, or Exynos, is going to be Cyanogen right?
Would I be right to assume Cyanogen would be the first (possibly only) AOSP to build for Samsung?
In other words, would/could anyone build true AOSP based on Google's source code?
I understand both are considered AOSP, I'm asking cause from general experience with ROMs, when ROM is built on CM, they usually just build in the CM Theme Manager, and only the ROMs based on Google's code do things like RRO Layer support.
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@CTXz I suppose the closest thing to AOSP on Samsung devices QCom, or Exynos, is going to be Cyanogen right?
Would I be right to assume Cyanogen would be the first (possibly only) AOSP to build for Samsung?
In other words, would/could anyone build true AOSP based on Google's source code?
I understand both are considered AOSP, I'm asking cause from general experience with ROMs, when ROM is built on CM, they usually just build in the CM Theme Manager, and only the ROMs based on Google's code do things like RRO Layer support.
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Ofcourse, infact that is up to the devs, however CyanogenMod is usually recommended over pure AOSP due it's great documentation, common updates, it's optimizations and tweaks above stock AOSP. It's also the simplest to get the hands on.
EDIT: It's also important to know that CM isn't just AOSP with a few apps. While CM is based on AOSP, it still has it's own community and is still a different ROM than AOSP mainly when it comes to the internal changes.
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CTXz said:
Ofcourse, infact that is up to the devs, however CyanogenMod is usually recommended over pure AOSP due it's great documentation, common updates, it's optimizations and tweaks above stock AOSP. It's also the simplest to get the hands on.
EDIT: It's also important to know that CM isn't just AOSP with a few apps. While CM is based on AOSP, it still has it's own community and is still a different ROM than AOSP mainly when it comes to the internal changes.
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After Cm started trying to push that you make an acct with them I will never use CM again. I know that people say Inc has no relation to... whatever non-Inc calls themselves, but I no longer trust any of them and would rather buy a Windows phone or iPhone before I run them on any phone of mine again.
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After Cm started trying to push that you make an acct with them I will never use CM again. I know that people say Inc has no relation to... whatever non-Inc calls themselves, but I no longer trust any of them and would rather buy a Windows phone or iPhone before I run them on any phone of mine again.
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Um... CM =/= Cyanogen Inc
CM is a completely separate group that is not affected in any way. It's like XDA and GOogle. XDA is for developing and still both work on android. I know some people in the official CM group, all of them very friendly and none of it is affected by Cyanogen Inc. You're making yourself lies that aren't true. It's like blaming the entire CyanogenMod team because one dev for a specific device didn't fix the issue yet.
If CM is the main like, why not just get a Nexus and get it over with? You'll get CM right away.
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If CM is the main like, why not just get a Nexus and get it over with? You'll get CM right away.
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Because some people don't want a nexus
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Because some people don't want a nexus
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But if CM is what you look for, isn't a Nexus your best bet? Unless you want the S7 hardware.
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But if CM is what you look for, isn't a Nexus your best bet? Unless you want the S7 hardware.
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And cripple it with bad, forever-beta, with half the functionally misssing software.
Sure hope we get aosp!
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I thought it was primarily due to the 64 bit architecture that was the hold up with aosp on the s6. Buy I could be wrong. Been a while since I went looking.
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But if CM is what you look for, isn't a Nexus your best bet? Unless you want the S7 hardware.
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That is a good argument, however many people DO actually go for the look/hardware and with that said. Afterall xda wouldn't be this big if you could use the word nexus for all excuses, right ?
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That is a good argument, however many people DO actually go for the look/hardware and with that said. Afterall xda wouldn't be this big if you could use the word nexus for all excuses, right ?
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Might want to get used to it as sooner or later it will only be nexus devices that are worked on.
Also what's the point of getting the device fore the hardware when aosp doesn't take advantage of the hardware? Aosp drivers don't compare to the stock ones.

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