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Canalys Q2 2010 smartphone market share figures are out: http://www.canalys.com/pr/2010/r2010081.html
According to them, Android is now the number one smartphone platform in the US, with 34% market share vs. RIM's 32% and Apple's 21.7%.
Worldwide, Android sales grew 886% from last year.
Worldwide Android sales numbers were not disclosed, but the 886% growth suggests 9.7 million Android devices sold (up from 1.1 million in Q2 2009), vs. Apple's 8.7 million iPhones, which would put Android in third place behind Nokia with 38% worldwide market share and RIM with 18%.
According to Google, 160,000 Android devices are now activated each day, which add up to over 15 million devices per quarter. Thus, we could see worldwide Android market share surpassing RIM's within a few months and even approaching Nokia.
HTC is also a big winner with 14% of the US smartphone market, only behind RIM (32.1%) and Apple (21.7%).
I understand that Windows Mobile is declining, but I wonder why it wasn't even mentioned. Also, why was HTC listed when they are just a hardware manufacturer?
Because the top three hardware manufacturers have been mentioned and HTC is number three:
RIM 32.1%
Apple 21.7%
HTC 14%
Windows Mobile has fallen too far behind.
windows mobile is not a hardware manufacturer
Are these figures only indicative of 2010 Q2? I'm curious what would the figures be if they included all old devices still in use. Would Android still be #1?
No, not yet. But sales numbers are more important, the give you an idea how many people will use it in the future.
FWIW, here's an article that lists statistics for marketshare of all existing devices.
http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/android-wins-battle-iphone-still-winning-war/2010-08-05
The future is looking good for Android. It's interesting what a rapid decline there has been for WinMo. I feel like Windows Phone 7 will be too little, too late to save WinMo, especially with the lack of backwards compatibility. BlackBerry is still #1. It's the one smartphone platform I've never tried, though the hardware and screenshots have never looked impressive enough for me to even consider it.
Blackberry is only good if your company uses the blackberry servers for email, other than that, the only nice thing I can say about them is that they have nice keyboards. Horrid web browser, though.
In that case, I'd never bother with Blackberry because web browsing is what I use my phone for most.
FWIW, here's an article that lists statistics for marketshare of all existing devices.
http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/android-wins-battle-iphone-still-winning-war/2010-08-05
The future is looking good for Android. It's interesting what a rapid decline there has been for WinMo. I feel like Windows Phone 7 will be too little, too late to save WinMo, especially with the lack of backwards compatibility.
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couldn't have said it better.
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wish people would stop refering to windows 7 phone as "winmo". The only simularities are that its made by Microsoft. Pretty much totaly diferent. WinMo sadly is dead. Win 7, totaly new and nothing like Winmo.
edit: btw, iPhone sales dropped coz of people waiting for iPhone 4 I would imagine
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wish people would stop refering to windows 7 phone as "winmo". The only simularities are that its made by Microsoft. Pretty much totaly diferent. WinMo sadly is dead. Win 7, totaly new and nothing like Winmo.
edit: btw, iPhone sales dropped coz of people waiting for iPhone 4 I would imagine
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To correct your post yes WM is dead,,, just like XP. And in your edit I believe you mean phone sales dropped coz of people waiting for the iphone 4 to be fixed.
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one sales dropped coz of people waiting for iPhone 4 I would imagine
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thats true , i dunno why ppl tend to not use their brain ...
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To correct your post yes WM is dead,,, just like XP. And in your edit I believe you mean phone sales dropped coz of people waiting for the iphone 4 to be fixed.
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no, i mean why would people buy a 3gs when a mystery new super phone was due to be released by Apple (the 4). I think the survey is based on statistics pre-iPhone 4 launch.
I actually doubt the Antenagate saga has had any real affect on iPhone 4 sales. I know of at least two people who bought it even though they knew about the reception issues.
No, Monty, the first week of iPhone 4 sales is included and as we know, half of the iPhone 4's first months sales happened in the first week.
Apple announced that they sold 3 million iPhones in the 21 days after the iPhone 4 launch.
That's 143,000 a day. And that includes the launch days, where ten times more iPhones are sold than on normal days.
There are 200,000 Android phones sold each day and that number is increasing fast.
Fair enough, then its probably as good a representation as we will ever get.
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There are 200,000 Android phones sold each day and that number is increasing fast.
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I doubt that figure! At that rate there won't be much of the planet in 5 years that won't have an Android phone!!! Seriously, there is no way that rate of sale can or will be sustained, can there???
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Fair enough, then its probably as good a representation as we will ever get.
I doubt that figure! At that rate there won't be much of the planet in 5 years that won't have an Android phone!!! Seriously, there is no way that rate of sale can or will be sustained, can there???
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Monty Burns said:
Fair enough, then its probably as good a representation as we will ever get.
I doubt that figure! At that rate there won't be much of the planet in 5 years that won't have an Android phone!!! Seriously, there is no way that rate of sale can or will be sustained, can there???
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Easily. world population is in the billions. Thats just selling 28,000 units a day per continent. Thats 146,000,000 phones in 2 years. Way less then the population of adult americans. Then figure most people buy a new phone every 2 years. I'd say that number has a big chance of growing higher.
Your making some assumptions (and getting some stuff wrong).
There are between 5 and 7 Continents of the world.
http://www.countriesandcities.com/continents/
Second, your assuming everyone in the world can afford/choose to afford a new phone. Can you guess two countries where the majority of populations may not care about a new mobile? Not dificult, just work out two of the most populated countries on the planet (most of the cheap sh*t is made in them) -
Clues:
Chi... population of Chi...
Indi...Population of Indi..
So, out of around 7 billion, your down a significant portion. Now we also need to include Africa. And then not everyone in the UK will want a smartphone (and I imagine the same for every other "first world" country)
Remember, I also said "Choose". Many of my work collegues are still walking around with real simple mobiles because, and lets be real honest here, battery life on smartphones stinks. They will easily get a full week (including talking) on one charge. No smartphone will do that.
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sorry, clarification, ofc I mean population being poor not the goverments of the countries. I don't think anyone in any sane state would accuse China's goverment of being poor!
I also doubt that 50% of Americans will have Android phones in 2 years (Population of USA (estimated) to be 310mi)
Hopefully I can tinker with a newer android device, and have it work better. Like so many things the iFAIL (any of apples products really) is one of those trendy things that even a monkey could use.
But like the RIM software I dispised the first gen android os. Altho, I would take a crackberry any day over an iFAIL. WM powered devices I have had the most success with. I can definitely see why android is such a huge hit, especialyl since a lot of providers are offering lower priced Android devices vs the apple i FAIL, which is CANNOT be covered by insurance for physical damage or loss.
I doubt... If so, when? This year is ending, and nothing, no nokia...
And bada ist crap
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Trolling, stupid, or both.
For some reason people associate sales figures with quality, I never understood that...
Look at cinema as an example, or music, to demonstrate how demonstrably fallacious that is.
Just to point out the Lumia 800 is sold out pretty much everywhere in the UK and most stores are on their 3rd or 4th delivery.
Said it before and will say it again, the Lumia 800 is Windows Phone's Nexus One. I'd be very surprised if we don't see a jump in WP market share by the end of the year.
Not so fast
http://www.mobileburn.com/chtml/mob...ia-800-sales-lower-than-expected-say-analysts
That's with free Xbox give aways
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Not so fast
http://www.mobileburn.com/chtml/mob...ia-800-sales-lower-than-expected-say-analysts
That's with free Xbox give aways
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what's your point?
Android does two for one deals and free phones, gift cards, etc..
^ all phones have those sells.
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^ all phones have those sells.
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exactly..
Lol
So you saying the lumia is only selling out because of the free Xbox is fallacious
I never said it was a bad thing. Dont be so hostile over your beloved product.
Did you even read the link?
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I never said it was a bad thing. Dont be so hostile over your beloved product.
Did you even read the link?
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I only had this a week haha
I had android for two years..
I like them both equally honestly, for different reasons
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I only had this a week haha
I had android for two years..
I like them both equally honestly, for different reasons
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links contents:
Nokia's great smartphone hope, the Windows Phone 7.5-equipped Lumia 800, was released earlier this month to rave critical reviews and much fanfare. However, a new analyst report says that all of the hubbub surrounding the Lumia 800 hasn't resulted in mind-blowing sales numbers, and that Nokia has only sold a relative handful of Lumia 800 smartphones.
According to the Pacific Crest Securities analyst firm, Nokia may have shipped less than 1 million Windows Phone smartphones for the quarter, with only 500,000 sold to end-users. This is a bit of a surprise, as Nokia itself has said in the past that the Lumia 800 has been very popular and well received with consumers. Nokia also has the backing of most major carriers in the markets that the Lumia 800 has launched, so its supposed poor sales performance is disappointing in light of that as well.
The report of lower-than-expected Lumia sales has caused Nokia's stock to tumble by about six percent. The Lumia 800 retails for about 420 EUR (US$567) in the markets where it is available. It has not been announced for the U.S. market yet, but Nokia says that it will bring a portfolio of smartphones to the U.S. in early 2012. [via Bloomberg]
Actually, sales numbers are a fairly good indicator of some quality of success, assuming there isn't a government contract or other bogus (event giveaways counted as sales; shipped devices to retailers counted as sales, etc) things are mixed in. For example, when Google claims 500,000 activations per day, that's proof of a success. When Apple claims 4 MILLION activations in a weekend, that my friend, is success.
Microsoft has still not released -any- sales numbers from their wp7 division. This is an indicator of a failure at some point in the chain.
One of the comments is bang on, 500000 in less than a week.
I'd like to see androids initial numbers as well for the first year.
Rome wasn't built in a day
Don't look at it as just negative, 500,000 for any WP7 is good. That's probably more than all the other OEMs combined.
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Don't look at it as just negative, 500,000 for any WP7 is good. That's probably more than all the other OEMs combined.
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So make it one less and return yours, Troll.
vetvito said:
I never said it was a bad thing. Dont be so hostile over your beloved product.
Did you even read the link?
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Sequence of events:
Lumia sold out. This is the Godfather of Windows Phones (Nexus reference).
Vetvito: Not so fast. Links an article that says Nokia sales of Lumia 800 lower than expected and cause stock to drop. Threw in a comment about giving away consoles.
No, you never outright said it was a bad thing, but we can read into what you wrote. Don't be so friendly with your hate-filled news.
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Lumia sold out. This is the Godfather of Windows Phones (Nexus reference).
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I don't understand why people speak so highly of Nokia Lumia. Nokia Lumia is never the Godfather of Windows Phone, what about HD7, Omnia 7 and Optimus 7?
I don't think Nokia Lumia 710 and 800 is that great and should be made reference to the Nexus, at least not yet. Lumia 800 is more like the HTC Dream for Android.
In other words, the Lumia 800 just can't set itself apart from other WP7 phones yet. (For the record, I owned the HTC Radar now. Personally I don't like Nokia Lumia's design)
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Sequence of events:
Lumia sold out. This is the Godfather of Windows Phones (Nexus reference).
Vetvito: Not so fast. Links an article that says Nokia sales of Lumia 800 lower than expected and cause stock to drop. Threw in a comment about giving away consoles.
No, you never outright said it was a bad thing, but we can read into what you wrote. Don't be so friendly with your hate-filled news.
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ok let me understand how this world works. If I'm not kissing up to this platform, I'm spreading hate?
I just want to be clear, posting facts like the N8 sold more than the Lumia, is hate.
Posting news like
http://m.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/nov/23/nokia-lumia-800-iphone-4s?cat=technology&type=article
is that hate?
It's interesting that the analyst released his predictions on the same day that Nokia increased it's orders from Compal for Lumia handsets due to "higher than expected sales".
It's also interesting that these analysts are comparing the Lumia 800 (which AFAIK has only been launched in 6 territories?) to the iPhone 4S (22 territories at launch, a further 15 followed on November 14th).
I'm not trying to suggest that the Lumia has attained 4S level sales where it's been on sale, just trying to bring in a bit of perspective to the sales figures that have been talked about. Even if these predictions are right, they are pretty good sales figures. IIRC people were talking about 1-1.5 million WP7 sales worldwide in Q4 last year? If Nokia are able to sell between 1/3rd and 2/3rds of that figure with a single handset, and in less than half of WP7 territories then they've done pretty well.
Regardless, they can't expect a year old platform to skyrocket market share wise..
None of them has, android or iPhone included..
They were still in the 5 percent range.
If by the end of next year it gets to around 10%, it is doing quite well.
It is a young os, the issue is people are comparing it to 5 year old operating systems in terms of success.
Be realistic now
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Sequence of events:
Lumia sold out. This is the Godfather of Windows Phones (Nexus reference).
Vetvito: Not so fast. Links an article that says Nokia sales of Lumia 800 lower than expected and cause stock to drop. Threw in a comment about giving away consoles.
No, you never outright said it was a bad thing, but we can read into what you wrote. Don't be so friendly with your hate-filled news.
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I assumed Vetvito would get bored at some point and move on but nope. Almost every pro-wp7 post he pops up in with this stuff. I don't understand it but what the hell. Whatever floats his boat i guess.
Does this mean they're aiming at Android or interested in it?
After a few years of losses, top executives to be fired, staff to walk out and recently a 'backhander' from Microsoft showing that Micro will not treat Nokia special I hope it means they realise the company's future depends on the *near guaranteed* steady stream of revenue that would come from Nokia Androids.
http://www.talkandroid.com/130831-n...ous-tweet-hints-at-possible-android-hardware/
Nokia tweet: https://twitter.com/nokia/status/243308327927439360/photo/1
*facepalm*
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Does this mean they're aiming at Android or interested in it?
After a few years of losses, top executives to be fired, staff to walk out and recently a 'backhander' from Microsoft showing that Micro will not treat Nokia special I hope it means they realise the company's future depends on the *near guaranteed* steady stream of revenue that would come from Nokia Androids.
http://www.talkandroid.com/130831-n...ous-tweet-hints-at-possible-android-hardware/
Nokia tweet: https://twitter.com/nokia/status/243308327927439360/photo/1
*facepalm*
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Why facepalm?
Imagine how good a Nokia Android phone would be
Facepalm with frustration! If they do join Android, it's about time!:fingers-crossed:
I think a decision to stick to Micro is political, not a business decision. I understand there will be commitments that they have to meet with Micro, but WHY not continue generating money with popular, established platforms like Android? That's what a commercial company should do; aim to make money and follow where the money is, not be polticial (or stubborn), in my humble opinion lol
Actually it comes across as more of a dig at android like saying "our phones will eat android for breakfast" not a cryptic hint they will embrace it but if Nokia were to make an android phone I'd consider it for my next phone over Samsung LG Motorola and HTC as I used to love my nokias and I think they could make a very good android.
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It's already confirmed they will be making the next kindle.
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SharpnShiny said:
After a few years of losses, top executives to be fired, staff to walk out and recently a 'backhander' from Microsoft showing that Micro will not treat Nokia special I hope it means they realise the company's future depends on the *near guaranteed* steady stream of revenue that would come from Nokia Androids.
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I wish (we seriously need more good competition in the android camp, and nokia's take on hardware would sell for sure).. but with that shill Elop at the reins, it ain't gonna happen.
Hopefully this ends up happening very soon.
YES! Now I can use my phone as a sword that never breaks!
AKA, drop it countless amount of times!
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It's already confirmed they will be making the next kindle.
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I think you may have misread the announcement at http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/30/us-amazon-fire-maps-idUSBRE87T1ML20120830 .
They are doing the mapping not making the device.
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YES! Now I can use my phone as a sword that never breaks!
AKA, drop it countless amount of times!
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Tell me, fellow paddy don't like Nokias?!
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Tell me, fellow paddy don't like Nokias?!
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Haha, I love them! Especially the Nokia 500 with a ⅛ core processor. Really fast
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after reading the news and looking at the actual tweet in detail
it's just a publicity PR to attract Android over to Lumia with Windows
it's basically cheating the search engines to earn fly time on the news & blogs by throwing in the "jellybean" on it.
as we all know most search engine auto learn are homed in on Android news, Apple news, and Samsung news
SharpnShiny said:
Does this mean they're aiming at Android or interested in it?
After a few years of losses, top executives to be fired, staff to walk out and recently a 'backhander' from Microsoft showing that Micro will not treat Nokia special I hope it means they realise the company's future depends on the *near guaranteed* steady stream of revenue that would come from Nokia Androids.
http://www.talkandroid.com/130831-n...ous-tweet-hints-at-possible-android-hardware/
Nokia tweet: https://twitter.com/nokia/status/243308327927439360/photo/1
*facepalm*
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AllGamer said:
after reading the news and looking at the actual tweet in detail
it's just a publicity PR to attract Android over to Lumia with Windows
it's basically cheating the search engines to earn fly time on the news & blogs by throwing in the "jellybean" on it.
as we all know most search engine auto learn are homed in on Android news, Apple news, and Samsung news
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It worked then, saw quite a few android sites say nokia were going to make an android and all because of that one tweet lol.
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Could they be in more dire straits? After a user above linked that site showing news of a possible shareholder EGM to get the Nokia chief out combined with many negative news stories referring to MicroNokia's vague Q4 2012 release dates, I mean really?! Does Nokia think this is the only path to bet all their fortunes? What a shame, I hoped to see what Nokia would do with Android. Those colourful designs would be a good addition to the black sea of generic handsets.
I would say they can have another few years of wasting cash, time and market share, but Elop doesn't have time on his side. Seperately, a lot of business people are saying that about Balmer too - if Windows 8 flops, so does he.
Well as someone already mentioned this is just Nokia saying "Our new phones are going to be eating Android(4.1) for breakfast".
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Well as someone already mentioned this is just Nokia saying "Our new phones are going to be eating Android(4.1) for breakfast".
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Big words from someone who has been getting curb stomped for the past 3 years. Hey Nokia, how about getting these "awesome" phones into the hands of consumers before anymore trash talking?
PLEASE HELP!!!
Lastest Symbian phones produced by Nokia have got a very decent hardware (1.3 Ghz processor single core, 512 MB ram, 600 MB NAND) but they work exactly like the old 5800..I think it's a frustrating situation. I don't want to change phone due to stupid nokia limitations...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, is there any possibility to install android or Windows phone 7 on those therminals?
PLEASE DON'T IGNORE THIS QUESTION =(
Why not just buy an Android or Windows Phone?
Because this community lives on portings, modifications, developments on terminals..and those nokia phones have not even been considered..why?
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Because this community lives on portings, modifications, developments on terminals..and those nokia phones have not even been considered..why?
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Sorry, but Elop singlehandedly killed Symbian two years ago with his "burning platform" memo. Even if xda didn't consider it enough in the past, it certainly no longer has a future.
But the problem is not Symbian platform, because I would like to understand if it's possible to replace it with any other OS..in my opinion the real problem is the nokia bootloader in general, in fact if it would be possible to modify it, other OS will be put on those nokia phones. This is one of the eldest bootloaders present on the phones, but it seems that nobody knows anything about it..
"The wonder of being part of a community like XDA is that it doesn’t take long before someone catches an inspiration and starts finding ways to put different flavors of an OS on their device—or even a different OS entirely." cit. [jerdog]
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I know how you feel. I had an old WM 6.5 smart phone. It is slowly abandoned too. We have to accept the fact. I read on some article that Nokia is in dying situation now. Maybe because they failed to live up with the present.
well you can find good devs in daily mobile forums, they are very active symbian wise
should take a look there
Tell you what i still own a symbian and i love it as much as i love my one x ! The only active symbian forum left today (English) is forum.dailymobile.net if you didn't know that check it out and some devs out there could possibly help you better ! As far as android on symbian goes its practically un viable not because of low specs but locked bootloaders , hash checks. Even great symbian modders like coderus , danav have given up after bricking their devices dozens of times trying to unlock ! All that is possible as of now is to modify OFW to add few tweaks and stuff !
Maybe start a petition or something and ask Nokia/accenture to release sources(leaked s^3 sources aren't complete and are useless on belle ) because i know that there are still thousands of symbian users out there !
Btw which phone are you on ? Because the symbian experience on latest belle fp2 is far far better than what it used to be in the older days - the only thing i miss is apps !
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Btw you are correct if we get right people to work on this then maybe its possible !
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Btw you are correct if we get right people to work on this then maybe its possible !
Thank you so much for the comprehension, it's a quite frustrating situation for Symbian-users, (and there are a lot of them)..because they bought a nokia phone even a few months ago (some phones are still sold in some stores) and they are abandoned:
- by nokia (no more major OS updates for Symbian after belle FP2)
- even on nokia apps (No nokia drive+ or Maps 3.0 will be relased).
- Microsoft is making fun of us because Microsoft apps have been relased but they are only crappy useless toys
- in addiction app-developers abandoned us (we have problems even to find out a decent facebook client, whatsapp has almost no integration with the system and fruit ninja doesn't even support the multitouch...simply ridiculous)
- "indipendent developers" (like modders and people on forums) can't do anything because nokia phones seem to be protected better than NASA computers =s
In conclusion: I have got a Nokia 701, so I am running nokia belle FP2 and it's not so bad (of course, in your hands you have got an 1.3 Ghz terminal but it doesn't seems at all, devices with the half of CPU-power run as good as my phone =_=" shame on nokia!), but the real problem is the total lack of decent apps, because the few developers who publish apps in the nokia store make the apps compatible with all Symbian versions (s60v3, s60v5, s^3), so the result is apps with crappy speed and graphics.
I didn't know that daily mobile was the most active Symbian forum, so I Will try to find an answer on that forum, even if my hopes are less than zero. I've alredy seen the twilight of Windows mobile, and it has been a sad experience...but I think that Windows 8 is the Worthy heir of WM6.5..
For now I would like to thank you all for your advices..and sorry for the outburst, but I am really angry for this situation...
Symbian is really a good flat-form. Too bad it was abandoned..
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Symbian is really a good flat-form. Too bad it was abandoned..
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Lol not flat-form its platform !
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Nokia just didn't step up and got left behind. Tis s shame. The n86 and n96 were quality.
And obviously 3310
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True but the recent lumia line up looks impressive !
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Thank you so much for the comprehension, it's a quite frustrating situation for Symbian-users, (and there are a lot of them)..because they bought a nokia phone even a few months ago (some phones are still sold in some stores) and they are abandoned:
- by nokia (no more major OS updates for Symbian after belle FP2)
- even on nokia apps (No nokia drive+ or Maps 3.0 will be relased).
- Microsoft is making fun of us because Microsoft apps have been relased but they are only crappy useless toys
- in addiction app-developers abandoned us (we have problems even to find out a decent facebook client, whatsapp has almost no integration with the system and fruit ninja doesn't even support the multitouch...simply ridiculous)
- "indipendent developers" (like modders and people on forums) can't do anything because nokia phones seem to be protected better than NASA computers =s
In conclusion: I have got a Nokia 701, so I am running nokia belle FP2 and it's not so bad (of course, in your hands you have got an 1.3 Ghz terminal but it doesn't seems at all, devices with the half of CPU-power run as good as my phone =_=" shame on nokia!), but the real problem is the total lack of decent apps, because the few developers who publish apps in the nokia store make the apps compatible with all Symbian versions (s60v3, s60v5, s^3), so the result is apps with crappy speed and graphics.
I didn't know that daily mobile was the most active Symbian forum, so I Will try to find an answer on that forum, even if my hopes are less than zero. I've alredy seen the twilight of Windows mobile, and it has been a sad experience...but I think that Windows 8 is the Worthy heir of WM6.5..
For now I would like to thank you all for your advices..and sorry for the outburst, but I am really angry for this situation...
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dont worry man, i understand how you feel because if it wasnt that i lost my trusty N8 i still would be a symbian user so i know that feeling pretty well lol...
Nokia N8 The One V4.6.1 that was the last CFW i used when i lost my phone though i think the dev now has a 808 pureview , if i remember correctly you phone has quite some devs doing CFW for it
ps: i used to use for facebook this app called fMobi, imo i thought it was the best fb app out there you should check it out
Probably I found a clue..some years ago Linux has alredy been ported on Symbian S60v1 (see the Linux on SX1 project for example), with something that works similar to haret.exe for Windows mobile. I think there's to find a bug on Symbian^3 source code to be able to load the das U-boot (a Linux bootloader)...it can be a way, but it's purely theorical
Sorry but you have to accept the fact and buy yourself a proper Android device, unless you want to save your old device for hacking study.
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Sorry but you have to accept the fact and buy yourself a proper Android device, unless you want to save your old device for hacking study.
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This is not a discussion on whether he should buy an android or not
I dont even know if I should be mad or just baffled. My first phone was a Nokia 6085 flip phone. In my honest opinion I think if they went the Android route, we would see Nokia having more money then Samsung, HTC, and Sony combined
http://conversations.nokia.com/2013...n-letter-from-steve-ballmer-and-stephen-elop/
What do you guys think?
I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't part of the original deal to get Nokia to make Windows phones, ie if the phone sales don't save Nokia, Microsoft will step in and buy them.
Long Life Nokia.
They made the first wrong move of using windows platform in the first place.
Stephen Elop is a selfish bastard who pursues his own interests.
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Microsoft continues bad move after bad move. Their stranglehold on the desktop and productivity market won't cause them any overall company problems ever, but with the XBox One PR fiasco, Surface completely bombing, and buying a company that has no presence in the market and is a 'junk' credited company - it's no wonder Ballmer is getting forced out.
In my opinion its a good move Microsoft is trying to mimic what Apple has. A phone and its matching OS. But this will make everyone else who produces Windows Phone devices stop doing so. Nokia already had 90% (afair) of the WP market. With Microsoft building phones third party WP manufacturers wont have any chance at all
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Maybe now the windows phone will be better
nightfire37 said:
I dont even know if I should be mad or just baffled. My first phone was a Nokia 6085 flip phone. In my honest opinion I think if they went the Android route, we would see Nokia having more money then Samsung, HTC, and Sony combined
http://conversations.nokia.com/2013...n-letter-from-steve-ballmer-and-stephen-elop/
What do you guys think?
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Microsoft had to buy Nokia. Nokia could make Android. They could make more money. They could even dominate. Microsoft is scared of that potential. They had to buy Nokia to secure their future in mobile, or at least try to stay afloat for a while longer. You see, Nokia already serves as the vast majority of Windows phones. Losing that company to another OS is like taking out 90% of their mobile strategy.