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massive attack to ANDROID

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/go...e-attack-2011-04-22?link=MW_story_latest_news
massive attack to androd

u know the saying once ur on top everyone wants to knock u off.. But thanks for that great article.

Everybody suing everyone now days

movieaddict said:
u know the saying once ur on top everyone wants to knock u off.. But thanks for that great article.
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yeah man thats all about it

anthonys2r said:
Everybody suing everyone now days
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apple, those whores always tend to do that.... the the main suers ..**** apple

I hope no such thing as shutting down Android happens else Ima bomb the apple building
Android is waaaaaaay better than apple OS, sorry I like saying this again n again lol
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This is old news, regarding Oracle. That article would make you think Android is about to crumble, and that is not the case. At least he points out that re-writing the code, slightly, would make this go away.
Google has way too much power/$ to not fix this for Android, which has exceeded their expectations wildly.
In short, do not fret. Apple just being scared, as they should be.
Just like Jobs said recently via an email that Android is tracking people and that they do not.... ignoring all the articles about apple tracking people lately.
EDIT, haha, just noticed he said Symbian would likely benefit (which is dead).... sad considering how much Nokia stock I own (frown face)

The iphone makes up 50% of Apples revenue stream now so Android is a massive threat to their business. Totally idiotic for a company or that size to have most of their eggs in one basket if you ask me.
Personally i think competition is good and keeps the market honest, but all this patent trolling that's going on is just ludicrous. It's no better than kids fighting over marbles in the playground.

bosina said:
apple, those whores always tend to do that.... the the main suers ..**** apple
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This is not accurate.
All the big mobile companies sue each other in circles, it is not the fault of a single entity.

DirkGently1 said:
The iphone makes up 50% of Apples revenue stream now so Android is a massive threat to their business. Totally idiotic for a company or that size to have most of their eggs in one basket if you ask me.
Personally i think competition is good and keeps the market honest, but all this patent trolling that's going on is just ludicrous. It's no better than kids fighting over marbles in the playground.
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This also is not really accurate.
How can you compare a hardware/software vendor to a software vendor?
When google is able to claim it makes the hardware its software runs on, then you can start saying Android is a "threat" to apple.
Google and Apple are entirely different beasts. Apple makes money when it sells its hardware, it includes the software "free" with its devices and it has always done this with any of its products.
Google makes software for multiple vendors, and makes zero hardware.

Apple has always been pretty sue-happy, moreso than other phone/computer manufacturers.
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its their way of trying to slow down growth of its competitors. like tripping your opponent in a 100 yard dash as hes about to pass you.

Erra said:
When google is able to claim it makes the hardware its software runs on, then you can start saying Android is a "threat" to apple.
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Really? So more people buying Android smart phones and the market share slowly tilting to Android's favor is not a threat to the sales of the iPhone?
I guess Windows is not a threat to Apple since Microsoft doesn't make computers then, right?

I sue u
u sue me lol just keeps on going
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Erra said:
This also is not really accurate.
How can you compare a hardware/software vendor to a software vendor?
When google is able to claim it makes the hardware its software runs on, then you can start saying Android is a "threat" to apple.
Google and Apple are entirely different beasts. Apple makes money when it sells its hardware, it includes the software "free" with its devices and it has always done this with any of its products.
Google makes software for multiple vendors, and makes zero hardware.
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Isn't the nexus a Google device?
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i would like to add 1 small piece to this although apple are a hardwar/software vendor it does contract out to people like samsung , so this apple google is also apple samsung writ , android and samsung together is a bigger threat to apple and apple think by sueing (as most companys do and would do in the same situation) both samsung and google may slow them down or as is most likely with the release of all the new smartphones ie galaxy s 2 and new nexus phones will generate a feelling within buyers that apple sell a better product because others are copying , this is not a serious attempt to stop android but with the timing so close to may first release date for sgs2 is more of a marketing exercise , for instance when google lost a case recently they had to pay 5 million $ where as if they had payed for the licence out right may have cost them 50 million $ dont take these figures to seriously but you get the idea this is the way business works and will carry on working as has been said before apple will still buy from samsung google will still develop android licences will be paid for in one form or another and someone will use somebody elses idea to improve their own and tommorrow will be another day

Thank you for the information.

Erra said:
This also is not really accurate.
How can you compare a hardware/software vendor to a software vendor?
When google is able to claim it makes the hardware its software runs on, then you can start saying Android is a "threat" to apple.
Google and Apple are entirely different beasts. Apple makes money when it sells its hardware, it includes the software "free" with its devices and it has always done this with any of its products.
Google makes software for multiple vendors, and makes zero hardware.
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Really? So more people buying Android smart phones and the market share slowly tilting to Android's favor is not a threat to the sales of the iPhone?
I guess Windows is not a threat to Apple since Microsoft doesn't make computers then, right?
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Erra completely misses the point but shinkinrui saves the day by pointing that out for me. Nothing more to say really.

psiops said:
...but you get the idea this is the way business works and will carry on working...and someone will use somebody elses idea to improve their own and tomorrow will be another day
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Well put!
(5 to go)

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Isn't the nexus a Google device?
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Sort of, it's powered by google as all android phones are, but it isn't MADE by google, it is made by HTC, and the Nexus S is made by Samsung. Google works with the companies closely for these phones, but the phones themselves are not manufactured by google, and I'd be willing to bet google doesn't design the phones and pic the internal components to them either so much, they probably have some influence, but I'd be surprised if they had complete control when it is the manufacturer who stands to make or lose money on the phone based on sales.

Microsoft now collecting patent fees from nearly 70% of Android device manufacturers

They really have done well out of Android's success.
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Pantech will likely sign a royalty agreement with Microsoft that will involve paying $5 per Android device sold, a fee that other Android OEMs have been rumored to pay.
Microsoft is now collecting fees from nearly 70 percent of Android device makers.
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That's because their own OS fails. I want to know what Micro$oft software over 70% of android devices are using that require royalties. Unless microsoft just kind of walked up like a 5th grader standing angrily over the kindergarten kid playing in the sandbox demanding lunch money, which seems to be the case.

Microsoft at this point make a lot more off of Android then they do from Windows Phone. All of that licensing money goes right back into feeding the current sink hole that is Windows Phone. Microsoft can do that though, they hemorrhaged for years on the Original Xbox
i am really curious to see what patents they are using that every Android OEM is so scared to challenge. (Accept Motorola who damn near invented the cell phone)

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Microsoft at this point make a lot more off of Android then they do from Windows Phone. All of that licensing money goes right back into feeding the current sink hole that is Windows Phone. Microsoft can do that though, they hemorrhaged for years on the Original Xbox
i am really curious to see what patents they are using that every Android OEM is so scared to challenge. (Accept Motorola who damn near invented the cell phone)
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Would you prefer we sue you and get your OS banned in tons of countries.

z33dev33l said:
Would you prefer we sue you and get your OS banned in tons of countries.
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i never said their was anything wrong with what they were doing, i prefer this approach to the Ban everything approach Apple is trying. I just stated a fact that Microsoft makes more from Android then Windows Phone and i asked what patents their were using.

I apologize, should've quoted jesushaxyou, hit the wrong button.

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That's because their own OS fails. I want to know what Micro$oft software over 70% of android devices are using that require royalties. Unless microsoft just kind of walked up like a 5th grader standing angrily over the kindergarten kid playing in the sandbox demanding lunch money, which seems to be the case.
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Have you ever used the OS? Sure it lacks the apps in comparison, but it is as good and better in some aspects in comparison to others, in terms of functionality.
$1 gets you a reply

z33dev33l said:
Would you prefer we sue you and get your OS banned in tons of countries.
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If ms had that much of a case they would sue google rather than go for device makers using googles os.
Just noticed when mentioning ms you say "we"...do you work for ms or was that a royal we said more as a wp7 fan?
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i am really curious to see what patents they are using that every Android OEM is so scared to challenge.
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It's actually not about specific patents. Microsoft is following IBM's playbook from the 1980s, which goes like this:
In the 1980s, attorney Gary Reback was working at Sun Microsystems, then a young technology startup. A pack of IBM employees in blue suits showed up at Sun headquarters seeking royalties for 7 patents that IBM claimed Sun had infringed. The Sun employees, having examined the patents, patiently explained that six of the seven patents were likely invalid, and Sun clearly hadn’t infringed the seventh. Reback explains what happened next in this classic Forbes article:
An awkward silence ensued. The blue suits did not even confer among themselves. They just sat there, stonelike. Finally, the chief suit responded. "OK," he said, "maybe you don't infringe these seven patents. But we have 10,000 U.S. patents. Do you really want us to go back to Armonk [IBM headquarters in New York] and find seven patents you do infringe? Or do you want to make this easy and just pay us $20 million?
After a modest bit of negotiation, Sun cut IBM a check, and the blue suits went to the next company on their hit list.
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Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timothylee/2011/07/07/microsofts-android-shakedown/
Most of the patents are trivial nonsense (no one will convince me that "method to update the phonebook" is a brilliant invention worthy of a patent). But fighting even those costs a lot of money. Possibly more than simply paying the extortion fee. So Microsoft gets away with it.
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Would you prefer we sue you and get your OS banned in tons of countries.
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"We"? Have you finally outed yourself as a Microsoft employee, as a paid shill of theirs?

bdfull3r said:
Microsoft at this point make a lot more off of Android then they do from Windows Phone. All of that licensing money goes right back into feeding the current sink hole that is Windows Phone. Microsoft can do that though, they hemorrhaged for years on the Original Xbox
i am really curious to see what patents they are using that every Android OEM is so scared to challenge. (Accept Motorola who damn near invented the cell phone)
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They certainly make as much.
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Microsoft makes almost as much money licensing patents to HTC, Samsung and other companies as it does selling Windows Phone 7 devices.
Yes, you read that right, Microsoft makes almost as much from Android sales as they do through sales of their own Windows Phone devices. That’s more than Google makes from the Android, which the company gives away to manufacturers. It is worth noting that Android users generate ad revenue for Google, which could add up to $1.3 billion in 2012.
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Kailkti said:
Have you ever used the OS? Sure it lacks the apps in comparison, but it is as good and better in some aspects in comparison to others, in terms of functionality.
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No, I've never used it. I'm just giving my opinion about something I've never used because of how I think it would run. -_-
It lacks in just about everything that's important to me in a mobile OS. I think the actual UI is kinda crappy, but other than that it does run smoothly. Just not for me.

Jesushaxyou said:
No, I've never used it. I'm just giving my opinion about something I've never used because of how I think it would run. -_-
It lacks in just about everything that's important to me in a mobile OS. I think the actual UI is kinda crappy, but other than that it does run smoothly. Just not for me.
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Well I can only push you to try the OS, then have a complete opinion.
$1 gets you a reply

mistermentality said:
If ms had that much of a case they would sue google rather than go for device makers using googles os.
Just noticed when mentioning ms you say "we"...do you work for ms or was that a royal we said more as a wp7 fan?
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Perhaps you don't know how, "open source." works.

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Well I can only push you to try the OS, then have a complete opinion.
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You mistook my trolling sarcasm in the beginning of that hahaha. What I actually meant was yes, I have tried it. It's not my cup of tea.

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Perhaps you don't know how, "open source." works.
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Thats pretty funny considering I had to explain it to you 2 weeks ago when you were talking about Google getting sued.

lowandbehold said:
Thats pretty funny considering I had to explain it to you 2 weeks ago when you were talking about Google getting sued.
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No, you felt the need to explain it to feign a valid point because I said android could be sued out of existence were it not for microsoft's dependence on the same OEMs. This is the same reason I thought they should go strictly Nokia, most of the other OEMs have sad, unfunny jokes for windows phones in comparison.

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No, you felt the need to explain it to feign a valid point because I said android could be sued out of existence were it not for microsoft's dependence on the same OEMs. This is the same reason I thought they should go strictly Nokia, most of the other OEMs have sad, unfunny jokes for windows phones in comparison.
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Going striclty Nokia would be a mistake. Americans will not allow Nokia to be popular again.

lowandbehold said:
Going striclty Nokia would be a mistake. Americans will not allow Nokia to be popular again.
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Unless the phones chirp. Then it would be acceptable.

lowandbehold said:
Going striclty Nokia would be a mistake. Americans will not allow Nokia to be popular again.
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We'll see with the lumia 900. I have faith. It's not like most know the difference between one OEM or another.

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We'll see with the lumia 900. I have faith. It's not like most know the difference between one OEM or another.
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You're basically saying that just because one company has a good year with hand sets that they should be the only one to EVER make a device under that OS.
So, Samsung should be the only android device because they were (arguably) the most popular OEM in 2011?
Maybe no one can really tell the difference between the OEM's on the windows side because it's all the same ****. No one is allowed to make it any differently. With Android phones each OEM has a very distinct way to make the device function.
The lumia 900 is probably going to be a good phone. But then again I guess it's about time.

Its official - court rules that Motorolas patents cannot be used against Apple

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2012/02/motorola-cant-enforce-standard.html
German courts have made a ruling that means if Motorola tries to use its most important patents against Apple in a court case the company will be in violation of European Anti trust law.
As the article says:
"Apple scored a breakthrough court victory today against Motorola. Its important can hardly be overstated. This is so huge that it even begs the question of whether Google's strategy for its $12.5 billion purchase of Motorola Mobility has failed before the deal is even formally closed (they're still waiting for some regulatory approvals)."
It would be nice to see Apple bought down a peg or two but the way things are going its likely to be Google-Motorola (and therefore also Android) that is on the losing side.
After all Motorola cannot use its genuinely essential patents in court now and yet Apple can still use dumb ones like voice search, touch screen, text completion etcetera that although every decent phone nowadays has these features Apple own the patents to and have been able to use in court cases so it seems Apple now have the upper hand.
Dave

Why, yes, Apple, you can patent intuitive actions on your devices all you please; and don't worry about those pesky other companies patenting worthwhile operating features, we'll make them play ball with you. Hahaha, let's go smoke this cigar together and laugh at all the little people.

this is getting hilarious...they all should concentrate on developing new devices instead of sueing each other. I hate Apple for all these lawsuits...

Firetribe said:
this is getting hilarious...they all should concentrate on developing new devices instead of sueing each other. I hate Apple for all these lawsuits...
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They can't develop new devices without violating apples patents anymore. When the new phones with android get released after mwc you'll see more lawsuits against those models too.
Apple will win because they have patents that are not subject to frand so don't have to let people use them.
Odd thing is that apples licence offer to motorola, which stopped the injunction on iphones in Germany, is still less than motorola asked for yet judges order them to not sue apple as a result.
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Yeo, I know it was Apple who started it all... I just feel sorry for the time wasted in court, only to slow down the other side, time and money which could be used much better.
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Firetribe said:
Yeo, I know it was Apple who started it all... I just feel sorry for the time wasted in court, only to slow down the other side, time and money which could be used much better.
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Things got worse for motorola today as apple won court case over the android gallery and they have to change it or all their products running android get banned and recalled.
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First of all you have to consider the source of this information to be able to evaluate the spin on this. Florian Mueller is a anti Google/Android pro MS mouthpiece who tends to be clueless.
This is a lifting of the preliminary injunction. The case itself is still pending, but It'll likely to take quite a while to finish up. Granted this isn't good news for Motorola, but it's NOT the end of the road.
Check out Groklaw for a different slant on this and other issues (eg Oracle/Google)

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First of all you have to consider the source of this information to be able to evaluate the spin on this. Florian Mueller is a anti Google/Android pro MS mouthpiece who tends to be clueless.
This is a lifting of the preliminary injunction. The case itself is still pending, but It'll likely to take quite a while to finish up. Granted this isn't good news for Motorola, but it's NOT the end of the road.
Check out Groklaw for a different slant on this and other issues (eg Oracle/Google)
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Actually he uses android devices as he has a Samsung that was affected by the german court case against them last year and he is actually very knowledgeable.
I follow his work and have not noticed any pro apple bias but the things he states are facts, motorolas cannot sue apple using their patents for the duration of the appeal which is between one to two years so how would any bias change the facts?
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He said "pro MS" and not "pro apple"
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Actually he uses android devices as he has a Samsung that was affected by the german court case against them last year and he is actually very knowledgeable.
I follow his work and have not noticed any pro apple bias but the things he states are facts, motorolas cannot sue apple using their patents for the duration of the appeal which is between one to two years so how would any bias change the facts?
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He said "pro MS" and not "pro apple"
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He said anti android as well which if the guy uses android as he does is unlikely.
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Sucks for Motorola. I really had hope this would be a big battle for the long lasting.

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Sucks for Motorola. I really had hope this would be a big battle for the long lasting.
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I thought that steve jobs was gone, apple would stop these law suits but it seems to be differing
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The patent trolling will never end.

Patent fraud is some really easy money, especially when you've got easy victories guaranteed, like Apple does.

Firetribe said:
Yeo, I know it was Apple who started it all...
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Motorola sued apple first, which started the ball rolling..

Tone_ said:
Motorola sued apple first, which started the ball rolling..
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Motorola sued after apple didn't pay licencing fees in 2010, something apple still won't pay. Bit different to apple suing because phones can auto complete text for example.
Motorola sued for a good reason but apple do so to stifle competition.
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So ridiculous.
European courts seem to be all over Apple's side.

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Motorola sued after apple didn't pay licencing fees in 2010, something apple still won't pay. Bit different to apple suing because phones can auto complete text for example.
Motorola sued for a good reason but apple do so to stifle competition.
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saw this and i thought i would say that apple originally started all of this by suing google and HTC first
they r trying to hold back developemnet becuz thats all apple has done is steal and try and stop competition
in the long run apple will fall
and ppl only buy apple products cuz they br pretty i buy google products for quality and interfacing
all in all apple products r made for the stupid and wealthy while android/windows r made for ppl that want to improve thru the reason y google is open source

Long live open source!
Apple are thieves.
Buy an Apple product and you support your own demise.
Wake up people!
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Do your own research and decide. His name is mud on Slashdot and Groklaw. Here's one article. found at m.paidcontent.org/article/419-is-patent-expertblogger-florian-mueller-getting-too-cozy-with-microsoft/
Partial quote:
The problem lies not with Mueller’s analysis—but with his impartiality. The engineer is right when he says that Mueller has the knives out for Google. Even a casual reader of the FOSS blog can easily discern that Mueller is quick to amplify any legal setback for Google’s Android or its affiliates. His tone can be crowing and haughty—see the tendentious “Google scores an Own Goal” post about Motorola (NYSE: MMI)—and for all the world echoes Microsoft’s own “they’re getting what they deserve” attitude to Google.
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whats the future with android

do you all think that android gonna have good future with apple making more profits than android?

Apple will probably use the remaining 84bn in cash to buy google.

Android is the future.
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Android is doing in the smartphone market what Microsoft did in the desktop market in the mid to late 90s. They offer a lower cost alternative where prices stay competition due to competition between OEMs. The fact that Apple is trying to sue Android OEMs like crazy shows that it is a threat to them.

Dead and gone in at most 2 years. I won't miss it.
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Apple is all over sueing android supporters with patents.
This aint even missing a thing. This shows that android is making its way too fast. biggest advantage of android is, it is open source

Could be dead with apple and MS taking over.

April fools?
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Same as today if not larger. Not making apple money, but still making a killing
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MikeyMike01 said:
Dead and gone in at most 2 years. I won't miss it.
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Considering how bad Ios is to me, that is a scary thought
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Android will go the route of the Linux system. Used by true techies and not understood by the rest.

Maybe
I don't think so, it will used by all, and only understood by experts...

Well I should hope this is the case..After all you are not comparing Apples to Apples (pun intended).
Apple is a hardware company that sells hardware products and digital services, predominantly software and media, whereas Android itself is free. it costs nothing, so it cant make a profit.
If you look beyond the "gee whiz" numbers of their growth you will see that Apple leads in two markets, that of tablets and download content however market share in download content, smartphones and tablets is falling...So i suspect that the only folks really worried about the state of apple is apple themselves... their continued growth (at current rates) is frankly not sustainable.
Note: to compare Apple Vs apples (its full and complete competition) you would need to sum the numbers of the following business:
1. Microsoft & all PC manufacturers
2. All PC software sales
3. Android portion of all mobile manufacturers
4. All android tablet manufacturers
5. Google
6. Amazon market, and all Amazon download media
7. Napster and all other media download sites.
So, if you can be bothered to do that, you may see that Apple < competition.
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do you all think that android gonna have good future with apple making more profits than android?
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do you all think that android gonna have good future with apple making more profits than android?
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Ok ....... let me ask you a few questions which should hopefully put things into the kind of perspective that would have avoided this thread altogether.
A: Is there a future in the airplane industry for Airbus since Boeing keep getting all the big contracts ??
B: Is there a future in the oil industry for Saudi Arabia since Russia produces more oil than they do ??
C: Is there a future in Gold mining for South Africa since China mines more gold than they do now (allegedly with some assistance from slave/indentured labour).
Z: Is there a future in the God business for the Catholic church since Islam is growing much faster and Muslims seem more devout. (For the humour challenged am joking)
etc, etc, etc ........ i assume you get the idea, its called competition and the world is full of it in every industry you care to mention and lots you wouldn't.
done now ???

In these 2 years - if I'm wrong correct me because I'm quite new in android OS - android has become quite popular and because of the open source it might be avocative for developers as in present as in future.
And that Apple would buy android I can not imagine.

Android has been outselling iOS for a while now.
But iOS is beating Android with way more freezing and crashing. So I guess iOS wins in one aspect, more crashes!
Android will win.
Long live open source.
Check this Android vs iOS video series to be debrainwashed!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
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Anyone noticed an increase in Apple fanboy articles bashing Android since yesterday?

Definitely a lot more than usual, they must be panicking

I see a lot more android fanboy posts bashing apple. Must be the panicking.

monkeyluis said:
I see a lot more android fanboy posts bashing apple. Must be the panicking.
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That's probably due to the high profile court cases this week where some androids were banned for violating patents such as being able to act on a phone number you've been sent in a message (data tapping) and having a unified search feature (siri patent).
People rightly get annoyed when a big company patents things that were in use before the patent and then uses them to stifle the competition.
Dave
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Well lately its been sad news in the Android world because Flash Player is no longer supported on 4.1 and Gnex was banned.

And yet both side can't change anything.. let's grab some popcorn
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^+1

Its those kind of Apple Fanboys that gives good and kind iPeople a bad name.

Let them KEEP BARKING LIKE STRAY DOGS. They are afraid that their iOS is loosing to the New Generation of Android phones, so inorder to stay in top they are trying to make android's position low.
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ifanboy raging ? :highfive:

mistermentality said:
That's probably due to the high profile court cases this week where some androids were banned for violating patents such as being able to act on a phone number you've been sent in a message (data tapping) and having a unified search feature (siri patent).
People rightly get annoyed when a big company patents things that were in use before the patent and then uses them to stifle the competition.
Dave
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Yes
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/30/3...estigating-google-over-motorolas-use-of-frand.
Wouldn't want anyone to hold technology back. Grrr, argh.

monkeyluis said:
Yes
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/30/3...estigating-google-over-motorolas-use-of-frand.
Wouldn't want anyone to hold technology back. Grrr, argh.
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Pretty sure apple patenting anothers ideas then suing over people using them is just a little worse, and does more to hold tech back, than motorola who are owned by google allegedly charging a high price for patent rights.
One copies existing ideas and then stops rivals using them while not allowing them to licence the rights, the other own patents vital to tech products and lets anyone use them but possibly overcharges.
Pretty big difference between them.
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jahider said:
On PC TV - HD Channel The game Italy vs Spain is going to be anticipated to be an action-packed Soccer Regular Season game. Watch Italy vs Spain UEFA European Championship 2012 Regular Season game on SUNDAY, JULY 01 Start: 19:45
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Seriously can you stop spamming so many threads?
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monkeyluis said:
Yes
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/30/3...estigating-google-over-motorolas-use-of-frand.
Wouldn't want anyone to hold technology back. Grrr, argh.
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The thing about Apple getting in hot water over frand is that they didn't pay the frand rate at all.
Motorola objected as it should be paid.
Now Apple have entered into a frand agreement, however they want to have their cake and eat it by not paying for the time they were illegally using the patents.
As they hadn't entered into a frand agreement with Motorola back then, Motorola is not obliged to charge a frand rate and so want to charge a compensatory rate that punishes Apple for breaking the ethics of frand. This upsets Apple and the protectionist US authorities.
Had Apple played by the rules in the first place they'd not be in this mess but they wanted to rip off Motorola so must pay the price.

This is xda not androidCentral or imore. Keep the fan crap out!

It is time a new OS to pop out and steal everything the others got lol
We will have the perfect smartphone and they can spend all their money in court muahahaha

smile_ppl said:
Well lately its been sad news in the Android world because Flash Player is no longer supported on 4.1 and Gnex was banned.
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There not supporting flags player!? :O
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Yeah I have too, it's quite funny to read through, honestly.

Just proves how "evil" Apple is. A company that plays dirty tricks to stifle the competition is highly unattractive towards me.
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I bet the American court system won't have the balls to ban sales of the Xbox 360 due to the courtroom loss of Microsoft to Motorola since Microsoft is an American company.

Looks like there already is a new os make by mozila, with a android kernel and a "mordern" UI~