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Samsung SGH-i600 Android...???

Hello. I am new here. I saw you helped some guy running Android on his HTC touch dual. I have a SGH-i600 Windows Mobile 6 Smartphone(No touchscreen). It is the European version of the Blackjack 1. Since it is in the same category as the white "Gphone" prototype shown in An Android Demo Video...I thought I could try Android on my phone. For now, I would like to know if it is possible to run it from within windows. Later(when it will be more stable), I would like to remove WM and put Android on it as main OS. Or maybe Dual-Boot??? That would be very awesome!
Any help? Is it possible?

dude, android on any phone right now is almost impossible- i think only kaiser users are lucky enough to get some sort of unofficial OS of it working.
android is not actually out yet and when it does come out it will only be available for phones coming out then and the only hope youl have is if someone cooks a version for your blackjack or you get a phone which it supports.
hope this cleared things up

It did.
Yeah. Unfortunately, it did clear things up very well. I wish somebody could hack it to work with the SGH-i600. If not, I am getting a Kaiser or a touch-pro if the price will go down. I will not pay more than $600 on a phone.

Sorry for necro!
Sorry for necroposting, but now that Android has been released, is there anything I could do to port it to other phones. Especially my sgh-i600!

I don't much get excited by operating systems, but I'm intrigued here.
My suggestion to you would be to 1st get two sheets of paper, then write the benefits of WinMo on one and the benefits of Android on the other. And then do an HONEST comparison.
Now don't get me wrong: I have nothing against the Linux crowd, but I have a problem with tech-weenies that think it's cool to write M$ instead of MS and who believe Firefox is better simply because it isn't from Microsoft. Please don't think this statement is aimed at you - I DON'T think this of you, but instead see you as a member of the because-we-can brigade!
WinMo offers many benefits, least of which the maturity and stability, the number of devs coding for it and the number of apps available. In userland there are things like Exchange integration and more.
In my limited perspective I don't see Android matching WinMo, so aside from the because-we-can approach I see absolutely no point in migrating to it even if it was available to me right now. In fact, Android to me is of less consequence than Symbian. I see it as a Phone OS, while my device is a PDA that just happens to have phone capabilities, but is used for so much more. A bit like XP Home - pretty-ish, but outside of home usage it is mostly useless.
I will ask that you post your comparison of Android and WinMo here for all to see, but please don't get emotionally attached to either. Just stick to the facts.

let's see!
I also hate it when people bash something for no reason. I am not bashing Microsoft, nor Windows mobile. It's just that I prefer getting the most out of everything. WinMO smartphone edition freezes on me like a ***** every day, but that is not the main reason for which I would like to install Android. Android has a very easy to use SDK and I can easily port my Desktop apps to Android Platform. I am unable to understand the WinMO's sdk.Android just works for me, while WinMO doesn't. I have to say I love the phone. I could get a G1, but it doesn't suit my needs hardware wise. I just love the i600 and love the Android OS. S60 is still better than WinMO in my opinion. Easier to use(SDK) and faster(OS). I think there is a much higher chance of porting s60 as they have the e71 similar to i600.

Any luck for me? None?

Symbian Os, android, winmo?

So ive recently been hearing a lot of buzz on these chinese mobile phone copies recently. Its interesting to see how far these manufactures will go to every detail in order to clone the phones sold by these big name companies. The only thing i find allot of people complaining about is the os of the phones. Though allot of the phones looks awfully similar to the real ones, the os are nowhere close. I myself have an xperia x1 and was not really aware of the abilities of such individuals on these forums. For example the development of the android os running on the xperia. Such an idea is highly intuitive. So it just hit me today. Is it possible to get these clone phones made in asia to run os systems such as symbian, windows mobile, or even andorid. I personally have no experience with such workings but i know people on these forums have the abilities. I just thought that this was interesting idea and topic. Please share your input

to make a rom of any os
one have to have access to drivers and spcs for all the hardware
and spend a lot of time making it work
the knockoffs are quick in quick gon
getting one to a developer which sold enough for a big
market
is hard
and then come all the development......

I see. Well i was looking around and noticed for instance there was a download for the nokia n97's os. Im guessing however that to get a copy to run that os download would mean the specs would have to be the same?

I9000 or HTC HD2

Hi all,
Im facing a weird decision... well not weird as almost 50-50 split and it makes me feel queasy .
Should i opt for the Galaxy S (Android) or the HTC HD 2?
The Galaxy S has 1 GHz processor 512 Ram Full HD video recording and a SEXY screen... damn it looked nice in the demo . However (and this does drive me crazy) there is no LED flash. I dont know WHY there isnt but there isnt. God, I hate it when manufacturers do that. They leave out one fiddly feature for no reason whatsoever.
Anyhoo the HTC HD 2 HAS a flash it has WinMo upgradeable to WinMo 7. Snapdragon (I love that name) processor but the Galaxy S out performs it easily in terms of graphics. Should I take the leap into Android (I really really want to see how well it works especially since its got such an amazing developer community) or stick with WinMo and the HTC HD2? I know i havent mentioned many pros of the HD2 but thats because it shares most of them with the Galaxy. To be honest the only pro is that its an interface im familiar with. However, would all of you people who have taken the step from winMo to android tell me whether it was worth it or not?
Thanks

Leo with WM all the way!

orb3000 said:
Leo with WM all the way!
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Why would you say that?

Lol!!!!android! Shouldn't even b a choice! NO COMPARISON
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tarantula78 said:
Why would you say that?
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Because WM is a more mature and solid OS with thousand of customizations and free apps, android is immature and young and is not business oriented, also google will be in control of all your data...
All above of course is just my personal opinion

What do you mean google has access to all your data? :S really? they can see my messages and such information? I find that very surprising.

Read Is google stealing things off my phone? thread and make your own conclusions...
It's Google, they live and survive off your information!
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In terms of modern UI, stability and handling Android is way more mature then anything WM can offer. Unless you have some mission critical software which only runs on WM there is no sane reason to keep using it. Besides HD2 wont have any official ports for WP7. Android offers a stable, consistent user interface with plenty of customization options out of the box and tons of free available software. Hardly anybody bothers to produce new software for WM, meanwhile the Android eco system is brimming with life. I switched from a X1 which I tried with various custom roms to a Desire and it's just no comparison. If you're not hardcore attached to WM, I'm certain Android is the way better choice.
Google will only have your data, if you're using their mail/messenger/etc. services. You're free to use different ones.

orb3000 said:
Read Is google stealing things off my phone? thread and make your own conclusions...
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Google has removed once test-apps and I'm certain that isn't what happend in the linked case. If it happens you can be sure to read in the tech news about it and not by somebody with a new account and no posts. That thread doesn't either talk about google accessing and somehow retrieving data from user phones.

Perhaps that link as you mention does not give nothing solid to the question, however, as I clearly mentioned it´s my personal opinion only...
Here more links with information:
http://gcn.com/articles/2010/05/28/did-google-collect-too-much-info-with-street-view.aspx
http://webhosting.devshed.com/c/a/Web-Hosting-Articles/Viacom-and-Google-Stealing-Your-Privacy/
http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-hijackingtraffic/
http://hoytwalterhouse.com/sorry-for-stealing-information-from-google-x5067.html
Maybe you'll attract it hard to believe but we are talking about Google. Google for a long time to know a user's search application, Google Maps, where they can see photographs and videos that she has performed. Street View by specially equipped vehicles that feature the world's major cities is not registered as permanent move.
Grounds that they violate the privacy of private life, many times before Street View cars into trouble in some cities people were exposed to even the stony response rod.
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Respectfully,

orb3000 said:
Perhaps that link as you mention does not give nothing solid to the question, however, as I clearly mentioned it´s my personal opinion only...
Here more links with information:
http://gcn.com/articles/2010/05/28/did-google-collect-too-much-info-with-street-view.aspx
http://webhosting.devshed.com/c/a/Web-Hosting-Articles/Viacom-and-Google-Stealing-Your-Privacy/
http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-hijackingtraffic/
http://hoytwalterhouse.com/sorry-for-stealing-information-from-google-x5067.html
Respectfully,
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I fail to see the point of a bunch of random links, which claim that google has done something wrong and none is related to Android? Do you really think MS isn't collecting massive mounts of data with their internet services as well? In contrast to many other companies google actually has the balls to go out and say that something went wrong, not trying to deny it until there is no other way.

I must say i dont really find those so convincing. So long as they arent collecting PERSONAL information (my contacts, messages etc) and its anonymous and im not getting charged for it why should it bother me? Its just usage information.
Tbh I dont find many things convincing, especially the article about the Traffic hijacking. That has to be the most ridiculous claim ive ever seen. The google bot is very advanced and it can pick out useful information like phone numbers etc. How he can make a claim that showing this information is traffic hijacking done intentionally is ridiculous. I mean doesnt it occur to the author that Google is a SEARCH engine.. part of SEARCHING means getting to the information you want. THe best search engine wouldthen presumably be the one that brings you that information as easily and as quickly as possible :S.
However, you said its just your opinion so thanks for the information but as it stands I dont find it a real threat to my decision on HTC HD2 and the Samsung Galaxy S.

I've only read the first few posts so I don't know if this has already been covered. I've been with Windows Mobile since day one and I loved it until I tried Android on the HTC Evo a month ago. BTW' I had (still do) the HD2 which I bought on a T-Mobile 2-year new contract. I flashed the HD2 with Kumars ROMs (the best ROMs for WM right here on xda). I did a lot of tweaking and installed over 130 apps on my HD2 (both paid and free apps). After an hour with the Evo, I was sold on Android and now I just have to get around to putting my HD2 on ebay. BTW' the HD2 will not be updated to Windows Phone 7 if nobody else has mentioned that here.
The HD2 is nice and slim and feels very solid just like the iPhone 4G (I'm currently testing the iPhone 4G as of yesterday, while waiting on the ATT and Verizon Galaxy versions to come out). The HD2 is a good phone and if you flash it with a ROM like Kumar's, things are pretty good on it but don't looking for the best of gaming on it because the newest and best games aren't there. Also a lot of apps won't be as nice as what you can find on the other OS's. Furthermore, a lot of older WM apps are not easy to use on the HD2 because of the lack of stylus support.
The Evo is as close as you can get to having an HD2 running Android so in other words the Evo would almost be like having your HD2 and Galaxy together. My Evo has been good but it had the raised screen issue (as well as a dead pixel and yellow streaks on white backgrounds). I wanted to just get it exchanged but Radio Shack has been all sold out. So I decided to try the iPhone which I had to jump through hoops to get it mailed to me.......
The Galaxy has a nicer screen technology and looks better so I keep reading. But from what I can see of Samsung, I think I like HTC Sense much better than TouchWhiz. Plus the design looks much better than any of the Galaxy designs as far as I'm concerned. Evo or Galaxy = good choices. HD2 = a dead OS that you'll be happy with for a minute and then you'll regret not having a newer OS.
That was my two and half cents plus tax

Windows fans

I'm so curious if there are any die-hard fans for Windows like there are for Android and iOs.
Why do you like Windows so much? What are the advantages?

crushme1 said:
I'm so curious if there are any die-hard fans for Windows like there are for Android and iOs.
Why do you like Windows so much? What are the advantages?
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Not like Android and iOS,
But many level headed users will recognise what WM and WP is all about and they will appreciate it, but the don't go shouting about it.
From my own personal experiences and in no way is this supposed to be a sweeping statement generalising all android users, but I personally find that there is some kind of superiority complex with some iOS and droid users
Its really annoying, some seem to come on to Windows forums just to slag it off. Its a sad day when any member on this site feels the need to do that, to any OS forum ( same goes to WP WM users doing it to droid forums)
another sad series of events that seem to be taking place is that there is an influx of "new" users who and usually droid owners and seem to feel the need to boast about how good their OS is.
WM is the only true pocket PC out there, it was let down but OEMs and carriers, it is however an amazing OS, even today, and you will find that many day to day tasks are still run by WM devices, it was however slow, and not good for games but in every other aspect it outclasses all competition
WP does what it says on the tin, its a phone, and the things it does do it does incredibly well, yes others can do more, but where they overlap, in my experience, WP usually wins hands down. If you want a phone that works with minimal fuss, WP is, in my opinion, the best (reasonably priced) device out there.
that is not to say the other OS choices are any worse, or better, its just they target a different user, and the people who feel the need to slag off WP etc would do well to realise that.
oh whilst im at it, another annoying event is that since droid has taken over, even the news posts are condescending towards WP, its really frustrating that personal opinion cant be removed even from the headline news.

crushme1 said:
I'm so curious if there are any die-hard fans for Windows like there are for Android and iOs.
Why do you like Windows so much?
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I'm sure there are. You aren't going to see as many fans of any kind because WP has such a small market share. As the market share grows human nature dictates you will see more irrationally exuberant people.
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What are the advantages?
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A search of this forum will reveal countless (ie too many) "Windows Phone vs" threads. There seems to be a sick need by iOS and Andriod users to pour into the Windows Phone section of the forum and start thread after thread on this topic... which the mods eventually lock. I on the other hand have never felt the need to start a thread of any kind in the Andriod section of the forum. So what does that tell you?
Anyway just search and all shall be revealed... along with a boat load of lies.

Advantages: I think WP7 is fastest and simplest OS
Disadvantages: Cannot be updated to WP8 (only gets WP7.8 update) not have VPN and Arabic support.

amir-m89 said:
Advantages: I think WP7 is fastest and simplest OS
Disadvantages: Cannot be updated to WP8 (only gets WP7.8 update) not have VPN and Arabic support.
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Advantage same for me
And Disadvantage same too, WP7.5 does not supports Indian Languages
Hope it does in WP7.8

crushme1 said:
I'm so curious if there are any die-hard fans for Windows like there are for Android and iOs.
Why do you like Windows so much? What are the advantages?
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I loved WM because it was the best OS in that it could do anything, and was completely customisable. I could set my phone up to have any and all buttons perform any action, and the start/home screen could display anything that I wanted, no other OS came close. It's downfalls were not marketing itself to consumers (instead of just businesses) and as dazza9075 said - OEM and carrier support. And lastly apparently not being 'finger friendy'.
Android (or at least the few ROMs I flashed onto my HD2, and the phones of friends I played with for a few minutes) was just a copy of SPB Mobile Shell and isn't truly customisable. I say customisable in the sense that I can make WM look and behave how I want, Android seems to just be looks, which isn't even close to being actually customisable.
IOS, well that's just a glorified App launcher as far as I can tell. Not really in the same area of discussion, and is only a success due to marketing.
I bought a WP simply because I have faith in MS to produce a better OS than the others; feel a little bit of brand loyalty; refuse to join the Apple cult, pay more for the phone than the equivalent Android/BlackBerry/Symbian/WP/etc phone, or have a percentage of my contract paid to Apple under their royalties contract with the carriers; and lastly, despite WM becoming obsolete, I felt that Android was a step back compared to WM.
As far as answering your question about advantages, now that there is so much focus on Apps (I remember when we called them Progs (programs) there isn't so much an advantage. And I couldn't really care less about social integration that WP has, twitter, facebook et al bore me with their tedious rubbish (do I really care that my workmate had a sandwich for lunch?!), but I have found that where WP can't do something that I did on WM, or isn't as customisable as WM, it does have a very simple solution within the OS which doesn't require an App or some kind of hacking/ROM flashing to do it.

amir-m89 said:
Advantages: I think WP7 is fastest and simplest OS
Disadvantages: Cannot be updated to WP8 (only gets WP7.8 update) not have VPN and Arabic support.
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Are you sure that we dont get all the languages that wp8 gets? i wouldnt be so sure just wait some time, Microsoft is working on new features, new custom ROM's are not far away
---------- Post added at 03:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:57 AM ----------
And to reply to the question about WP7 fans, i'am a fan i have a WP7 news site but in Bosnian language because here it is not so wide spread like in the US or Germany, but i would like to help to spread the Os here on the Balkan. and i success for now, i have over 12.000 visits since may. and steady growing. i have also an app for wp7 with which my users can see the news in Bosnian language from my blog right on their Windows Phone's. All that for the love of the OS, because it gave me such an better experience and live comfort. my previous phone was an Nokia e71. Now i like WP7 and WP8. and i know that we gonna have some new features. but thats an another story. oh and my blog i wp7novosti.blogspot.com, "WP7" is WP7 "novosti" is news (explain) right now i'am saving for a domain to better support Windows Phone 7 and 8.

I'm tired of flashing roms, updates and scripts just to enjoy my Android phone. Maybe I'll try a WP in the future.
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Chances on resurrecting Symbian OS

So, since Symbian is open-source (https://sourceforge.net/projects/symbiandump/) for over 6 years, nobody has ever tried to port it on something. Call me nuts, but I think in some ways Symbian is much more efficient than Android, especially in application managing (Android is Java-based memory hog), in battery life and performance (it can run fluidly on 256 MB of RAM, FFS).
And I thought: maybe it's somehow possible to ressurect corpse from the grave that wonderful mobile OS and fill it with new modern functions like NFC, Qi charging and etc.? How fat is the chance? Looking forward to your answers.

Personally I would love that! I use symbian s60 on my Nokia N95 and really love it. Since it's open source, no harm in trying to build an alternative mobile operating system [emoji2] :victory:
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I loved nokia and the symbian platform. Between WebOs and Symbian there was a lot more choice. Now its more like Samsung v. Apple and it make me feel dirty.

This is a nice idea! Symbian is my favorite operating system and it is really effective! But you need someone who knows where to get your hands...

Sadly i dont think that ever happening because not enough people are interested.

inkoalawetrust said:
Sadly i dont think that ever happening because not enough people are interested.
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First of all, sorry for necroposting. But I believe it's my prerogative to do so.
Second... No, I've seen enough people in Youtube comments, in Twitter and IRL that miss old Nokia, Symbian or both. I think that even Juho Sarvikas, current CPO of HMD Global (de-facto maker of new Nokia phones) miss old times too. At least, I want to believe
Maybe if we get enough people, we can begin this? That would be one hell of a project. A true alternative mobile OS. For everyone.