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[DEV] Petition to Dev's Adreno related.

Hi, mates. I've been searching around Adreno libraries over Jelly Bean. I did notice that our Sensations doens't have same graphics than other phones. The Adreno 220 is very capable to do so, playing games with full graphics. The proof is here-->
This is the US T-Mobile version of the acclaimed Samsung Galaxy S2. What's its hardware? Snapdragon S3 processor at 1.2 and Adreno 220. Why can it move games at highest quality while our phone runs, for example, Most Wanted at low graphics level?
Here I send you a link to SGS2 (SGH-T989 model) xda forum related to new Adreno JB drivers. I hope you devs can help to investigate this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35369678&postcount=9
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: I must add there is NOT MY video. Is the only one video I could find on Youtube about this question.

Bruce's CM10 already uses these, has done for a while!

sjknight413 said:
Bruce's CM10 already uses these, has done for a while!
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Are they the latest ones? Then... why T-Mobile SGS2 can hadle that game, for example, in high details while ours don't? Both have similar specs.
This drivers are from October, not for August like the first ones: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828902 Version V3 (the thread is from August but has been updated). Are the same than the others?

lanluckez said:
Hi, mates. I've been searching around Adreno libraries over Jelly Bean. I did notice that our Sensations doens't have same graphics than other phones. The Adreno 220 is very capable to do so, playing games with full graphics. The proof is here-->
This is the US T-Mobile version of the acclaimed Samsung Galaxy S2. What's its hardware? Snapdragon S3 processor at 1.2 and Adreno 220. Why can it move games at highest quality while our phone runs, for example, Most Wanted at low graphics level?
Here I send you a link to SGS2 (SGH-T989 model) xda forum related to new Adreno JB drivers. I hope you devs can help to investigate this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35369678&postcount=9
Thanks in advance.
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Why you use craked games????????
YOU HAVE TO BUY IT.
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Well on elegancia MOST WANTED RUn VERY SMOOTH

PopaStefanx said:
Why you use craked games????????
YOU HAVE TO BUY IT.
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Well on elegancia MOST WANTED RUn VERY SMOOTH
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That's NOT MY video. I chose a video from Youtube. I pay my games. So, can we focus on the issue?
I've tried it over Elegancia's ROM. Yea, it's very smooth but i'm talkin about smoothness but graphics.

the framerate in that video is unplayable low.
Although it shouldn't really matter, they do use different SoC's than our Sensation (APQ8060 vs MSM8260). But like I said, that shouldn't matter cause I believe they are exactly the same except for the modem/connectivity (APQ8060 doesn't include a modem on the SoC).
But still, that video you posted shows that the Galaxy S2 API8060 can _not_ run the game.. so why should ours?

How can there be new drivers?
I have checked on the Qualcomm site and the latest drivers are still the 1 Aug early sample.

lanluckez said:
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That's NOT MY video. I chose a video from Youtube. I pay my games. So, can we focus on the issue?
I've tried it over Elegancia's ROM. Yea, it's very smooth but i'm talkin about smoothness but graphics.
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maybe the guy who made the video used a patch to get better graphic, you can search for it in xda but I read something that not compatible with sense 3.6 ...

Ok , the giù in the video use a normal version of most wanted. He only have downloaded it. No mod, inside that apk. You can try searching in the sgII forum, for a mod or something different, or you could see which us the screen density of sgII maybe is different.
Inviato dal mio HTC Sensation Z710e usando XDA Premium HD app

Thanks for your hard work, looks great...

PopaStefanx said:
Ok , the giù in the video use a normal version of most wanted. He only have downloaded it. No mod, inside that apk. You can try searching in the sgII forum, for a mod or something different, or you could see which us the screen density of sgII maybe is different.
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That's the point. As far as I know, TMOUS SGSII's screen resolution is lower than our sensation's. Anyway, at least in Nenamark2 the performance of the two is almost the same. I don't think our phone does that bad. Anyway, the framerate in the video is not really high.
EDIT: there you go for the comparison on gsmarena http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=3875

resadent said:
That's the point. As far as I know, TMOUS SGSII's screen resolution is lower than our sensation's. Anyway, at least in Nenamark2 the performance of the two is almost the same. I don't think our phone does that bad. Anyway, the framerate in the video is not really high.
EDIT: there you go for the comparison on gsmarena http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=3875
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But I'm talking about graphics level, not performance. Water in road, complete reflections, better shadows and textures... The ramerate on that video isn't high because he's using a videocapture program that reduces framerate.

[Q] Buying a used One S - admin mode check?

I will be buying a used One S this week, and would to to check if the hardware and software are ok while handling the phone in person.
I had a Samsung Wave and it was possible to go in admin menu with a special code and test the hardware + firmware.
Is it possible to do this with the one s / android?
I have heard of 1 bug with the one s, where the capacitive keys go a little crazy because of some GSM radios, is it possible to verify this?
Thanks!

AW: [Q] Buying a used One S - admin mode check?
I didnt noticed the helicopterbug anymore since the jellybean update.
What do you mean with testing hard and firmware?
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium

NQNH said:
I didnt noticed the helicopterbug anymore since the jellybean update.
What do you mean with testing hard and firmware?
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium
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I was thinking about a check of the sensors (acceleration, light, touch) and some firmwares (camera, radio).
For example here is the "service menu" for my samsung wave where i can run test on audio, video, etc.
samsungbadaapps.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Device-Test.jpg

*#*#3424#*#*
Type that into the dialer, and the HTC Function Test program should come up.
Sent from my One S using Tapatalk 2

usaff22 said:
*#*#3424#*#*
Type that into the dialer, and the HTC Function Test program should come up.
Sent from my One S using Tapatalk 2
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Thats exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
Will it show if the CPU is s4 vs s3 , or can I see that in the android about setting?

newschool said:
Thats exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
Will it show if the CPU is s4 vs s3 , or can I see that in the android about setting?
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It should say on the box. z520e is S4, z560e is S3.
A quick benchmark with Antutu should also say if it is 1.5GHz (S4) or 1.7GHz (S3)

usaff22 said:
It should say on the box. z520e is S4, z560e is S3.
A quick benchmark with Antutu should also say if it is 1.5GHz (S4) or 1.7GHz (S3)
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Hmm I will not have the box since im buying it used, theres no way to see it in the menu?

newschool said:
Hmm I will not have the box since im buying it used, theres no way to see it in the menu?
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The menu varies largely - some say dual core, some say 1.5GHz Dual Core, some say 1.7GHz Dual core. No good way to tell. Easiest way open antutu benchmark and check the info tab at the bottom of the screen. Adreno 225 means S4, Adreno 220 means S3.

MDNIE Hardcore Sharpness Fix

Ok Guys i have a Question.
How u implent this Screen Fix? Is it Kernel Based?
Since all the Galaxy Devices was able to get Hardcore Sharpness Tweaks(MDNIE FIX), Im curious about the Galaxy S4 to get it too?
Because it has a Snapdragon Processor, which is not dev friendly...
Thanks

hamad138 said:
Ok Guys i have a Question.
How u implent this Screen Fix? Is it Kernel Based?
Since all the Galaxy Devices was able to get Hardcore Sharpness Tweaks(MDNIE FIX), Im curious about the Galaxy S4 to get it too?
Because it has a Snapdragon Processor, which is not dev friendly...
Thanks
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First of all, Snapdragon is more dev-friendly than Exynos.
Secondly, it's not dependent on SOC support.
Finally, yes it will definitely get the sharpness fix from Kernel Developers.

how much sharper does it need to be ?

NuclearEMP said:
how much sharper does it need to be ?
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It's actually the other way. De-sharpening.

You want to sharpen what exactly?

BoneXDA said:
You want to sharpen what exactly?
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The 5 inch 1080p screen.

I need confirmation from a coder that mdnie fix is not kernel based.
Believe me qualcomm only give drivers but u cant modify the kernel like exynos or tegra

Vertron said:
The 5 inch 1080p screen.
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But what on it? Text looks super sharp at 1080p and image sharpness depends on source.

hamad138 said:
I need confirmation from a coder that mdnie fix is not kernel based.
Believe me qualcomm only give drivers but u cant modify the kernel like exynos or tegra
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U dont need any shaprening? and u can modify the kernel on qualcomm what nonsense is this? Im running a color mod right now called trinity colors... Which works on Qualcomm and cools the amoled however isnt available for s3 with exynos... U dont need to sharpen anything on the s4
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.

Why is anyone worrying about screen mods on a screen we haven't used before.

howtomen said:
Im running a color mod right now called trinity colors... Which works on Qualcomm and cools the amoled however isnt available for s3 with exynos...
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Not true. Perseus kernel for SGSIII/SGNII Exynos version has excellent color calibration setting and even pre-calibrated values. Screen looks really nice with this kernel.
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If SGS4's Adobe RGB mode is really calibrated then most likely we won't need any color setting hacks. As for de-sharpening - we will see when SGS4 will appear in stores.

BoneXDA said:
But what on it? Text looks super sharp at 1080p and image sharpness depends on source.
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It artificial sharpens the screen to make it look even sharper.

Exynos UI Snappier than S600 or placebo effect?

After seeing dozens of vids i started to notice in Russians vids (Exynos Version) UI transitions seems to be more snappier than vids using S600 version.
In russians vids all in S4 seems pretty smooth and fast (like here and other vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ymXQHSxOh4).
In s600 vids seemed to me have seen something clawing here and there.
Someone more have notice this or is just a placebo effect i have.
Thx.
I'm dying to see 2 versions face to face.
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Placebo it's probably using the a7s anyway when UI browsing
S4 INFO

TingTingin said:
Placebo it's probably using the a7s anyway when UI browsing
S4 INFO
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That may be true, but the GPU is more power full so it could be faster due to that. I don't know, they both look good to me.

Also dont know, as i said after seeing many videos I found myself looking preferably Russians videos because what i saw in their S4 screens looks better to me than no Russians vids, although in beginning didnt associated they use Exynos version.
I hope is placebo effect because here we only have S600 version....arrhhhh SAM.

wish it could've been subtitled. I couldn't understand at all.
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It's possible. Neither has the final SW out and Samsung has been working on the Exynos version before they realized they'll need the Snapdragon to meet all the demand. How quickly they managed to adapt with all features to a different SoC only means they'll improve it further upon launch and then some, but I can't say I've seen any lag on either version in videos.
The only thing's bothering me is the home button lag cause it waits for double input, can you turn it off?
Also, is there a way to make AirView pop-ups instantaneous like mouse hover instead of waiting a second over the content?

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The only thing's bothering me is the home button lag cause it waits for double input, can you turn it off?
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Yes, atleast on the s3 you can disable home button for S-voice

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my fault.

pack21 said:
Rude and unhelpful, when i dont understand what someone is trying to say i dont do such kind of comment.
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I don't think there was any intent to be rude in his statement. There is a beta caption translator built into YouTube which gives you a rough idea what he is saying if you enable it.
Still delaying my preorder/early upgrade because of this (although most likely placebo) and other reasons. Really hope the i9500 someone makes it here to the UK so I can get rid of my temp-phone BlackBerry! :crying:

darrendm said:
I don't think there was any intent to be rude in his statement. There is a beta caption translator built into YouTube which gives you a rough idea what he is saying if you enable it.
Still delaying my preorder/early upgrade because of this (although most likely placebo) and other reasons. Really hope the i9500 someone makes it here to the UK so I can get rid of my temp-phone BlackBerry! :crying:
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Thanks, I hadn't realized that.
At first glance it seemed to be referring to my post, @emylia777 might have added that was referred to youtube vid.
@emylia777, In that case i apologize.

4ktvs said:
That may be true, but the GPU is more power full so it could be faster due to that. I don't know, they both look good to me.
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The Adreno 320 should be similar performance to the SGX544MP3 on the Exynos. Both of the chips GPU are clocked higher than stock, we know the SGX544MP3 is at 533Mhz. Plus in theory the Adreno 320 still should perform better due to better intergration in the GPU. The Adreno 320 has more to offer than the SGX544MP3 in the long run such as OpenGL 3.0 and Open CL 1.0, which should make the UI smoother.
Anyways, I won't be surprised in the Exynos version is more optimized, the A7 CPU is a lot slower than the Snapdragon 600, so they'll have to make it optimize for the Exynos chip than the S600.

With 2 GBs of RAM, who knows how many things are running and what is on the priority list. Those are things we don't get to see in these videos.
I wonder if lets say having 5 memory intensive apps open would bog down the CPU priority list and slow the device down a bit.

First comparative says the Octa version delivers 10% better benchmark performance to the Snapdragon 600 variant
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and better battery life.
http://www.galaxy-s4.info/galaxy-s4...os-5-octa-detailed-review-by-russian-websites
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i'm back :}

had MotoQ, BlackBerry Storm, iPhones starting from the 3G... 2 years or so ago i ventured and used a HTC One X for about 3 months.. mainly due to battery life (and the Apple eco system in my house) i went back to iOS and got rid of the HTC. currently have the iPhone 5s.. purchased a HTC One S (this time i am keeping iPhone.. might be switching from time to time), should receive HTC One S on this wednesday, kinda anxious.

Make sure you get the S4 CPU ver of One S. I can't believe people still buying One S, it is a two years old phone though the phone is still good. One X is very bad battery life because of Nvidia T3 CPU.

TheEndHK said:
Make sure you get the S4 CPU ver of One S. I can't believe people still buying One S, it is a two years old phone though the phone is still good. One X is very bad battery life because of Nvidia T3 CPU.
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I Buy an htc one S last week And i do it because is was the S4 variant. I feel more confortable with that phone than the Galaxy S4 haha; really, I'm selling My GS4, and will use the HTC One S until i save enough for HTC ONE M8

already bought it ;] how do i know it's a S4 (the seller is out of town so can not ask him ;()

roeiboot said:
already bought it ;] how do i know it's a S4 (the seller is out of town so can not ask him ;()
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Use a benchmark app that can say you the processor speed, if the processor is 1512 mgz is S4

lorddavid said:
Use a benchmark app that can say you the processor speed, if the processor is 1512 mgz is S4
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thanks, any recommendations which app to use.. i'll find out wednesday what it is ;]

roeiboot said:
thanks, any recommendations which app to use.. i'll find out wednesday what it is ;]
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I think that antutu can tell the processor. I think that was the one that i use

lorddavid said:
I think that antutu can tell the processor. I think that was the one that i use
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thanks, found that one in the Google Play store, will download that first thing when i get the device... which supposedly is rooted and on Cyanogen mod 4.3.1.

roeiboot said:
thanks, found that one in the Google Play store, will download that first thing when i get the device... which supposedly is rooted and on Cyanogen mod 4.3.1.
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S3 = z560e
S4 = z520e
It printed on the box.
Try Quick System Info and SystemPanel Lite and check out the default max. clock. S3 is 1.7G and S4 is 1.5G.
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lorddavid said:
I Buy an htc one S last week And i do it because is was the S4 variant. I feel more confortable with that phone than the Galaxy S4 haha; really, I'm selling My GS4, and will use the HTC One S until i save enough for HTC ONE M8
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There are indeed many of S4 models, they got different of camera, cpu and RAM.

TheEndHK said:
S3 = z560e
S4 = z520e
It printed on the box.
Try Quick System Info and SystemPanel Lite and check out the default max. clock. S3 is 1.7G and S4 is 1.5G.
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does not come with box.. here's the listing (if it works for you), nothing mentioned by seller http://www.ebay.com/itm/321402139316
thanks.

Item specifics
Condition:
Used: An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions
Brand:
HTC
Style:
Bar
Model:
HTC One S
Camera:
8.0 MP
Features:
3G Data Capable, Internet Browser, Wi-Fi Capable, GPS, Touchscreen, Music Player, Bluetooth Enabled, Speakerphone
Cellular Band:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSDPA 850/900/2100
Carrier:
T-Mobile
Operating System:
Android
Storage Capacity:
16 GB
UPC:
4710937382075
and:
Product Identifiers
Brand HTC
MPN ONESTMB
Carrier T-Mobile
Family Line HTC One
Model S
UPC 4710937382075, 610214629968
Type Smartphone
Key Features
Storage Capacity 16 GB
Color Black
Network Generation 3G
Network Technology GSM / HSDPA
Band GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSDPA 850/900/2100
Style Bar
Camera 8.0 MP
Battery
Battery Capacity 1650 mAh
Display
Display Technology Super Amoled
Other Features
Touch Screen Yes
Bluetooth Yes
Digital Camera Yes
GPS Yes
Email Access Yes
Internet Browser Yes

roeiboot said:
Item specifics
Condition:
Used: An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions
Brand:
HTC
Style:
Bar
Model:
HTC One S
Camera:
8.0 MP
Features:
3G Data Capable, Internet Browser, Wi-Fi Capable, GPS, Touchscreen, Music Player, Bluetooth Enabled, Speakerphone
Cellular Band:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSDPA 850/900/2100
Carrier:
T-Mobile
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T-Mobile only sell S4 ver of One S, so it is highly possible a S4 CPU if the information isn't false.

TheEndHK said:
T-Mobile only sell S4 ver of One S, so it is highly possible a S4 CPU if the information isn't false.
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thanks... eases my mind a bit, i will for sure let you know!

HA... it came today ;}
looks like it's an S4:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1847964/Photo%20May%2012%2C%205%2043%2047%20PM.jpg
now to get rid of this cyanogenmod... (ps. on a Mac :}

roeiboot said:
HA... it came today ;}
looks like it's an S4:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1847964/Photo%20May%2012%2C%205%2043%2047%20PM.jpg
now to get rid of this cyanogenmod... (ps. on a Mac :}
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its s4, ure lucky

roeiboot said:
HA... it came today ;}
looks like it's an S4:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1847964/Photo%20May%2012%2C%205%2043%2047%20PM.jpg
now to get rid of this cyanogenmod... (ps. on a Mac :}
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thats great man enjoy the phone. I really like the one s