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How do I make GTA3 run smooth?

I am on stock 2.3.6. I installed 1.2 apk and it really lags alot.
Xperia play unrooted and stock seems to play it quite smoothly, nexus S is more powerful so surely it should run smooth??

I have the same problem and I also like to know how to fix it.. The game runs reaply badly for my usual gaming habits. I use Matrix kernel @ 1.46GHz and the latest CM9 nightly. I get really high bench scores for 4.0.3 and overall performance kicks the ass of my friends' stock Galaxy SII I-9100.
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Delete the audio files.

Firstly I would suggest posting this in the correct section for more responses - q&a. Second, perhaps check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103284
Tegra 2 Games on the Nexus S
I've never tried it because I have yet to experience the problems you describe but perhaps it's worth a try.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes

Harbb said:
Delete the audio files.
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Whats the point then of playing?
Bruce lee roy said:
Firstly I would suggest posting this in the correct section for more responses - q&a. Second, perhaps check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103284
Tegra 2 Games on the Nexus S
I've never tried it because I have yet to experience the problems you describe but perhaps it's worth a try.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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I have generally found the general section to be most responsive. That method you are saying is via root and I am not rooted.

I always played it on mute anyway, and after deleting the audio files i got a massive jump in performance (audio was being processed even with volume at 0). Personal preference, but a noticeable fps jump.

So I guess the game isnt optimized for powerVR?? It seems to run fine on adreno 205, this is disappointing.
I mainly want to play it for the nostalgic bit and the audio is really important part of it.

The nostalgia value of my GTA3 experience was with a sound bug that forced the rain to play constantly. Not really the highlight of the game for me
The sound on the Nexus S seems kind of delayed and i've noticed many games that slow down a little as sounds are meant to kick in. I don't know exactly why, maybe mediaserver isn't given good enough priority. This seems to be the same issue that plagued my GTA3 adventures though.

Gambler_3 said:
Whats the point then of playing?
I have generally found the general section to be most responsive. That method you are saying is via root and I am not rooted.
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perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
I don't think the processor is to blame for your inability to play the game. The ns processors have proven to be more than capable of handling most processes. Rather, the stock software does not allow the hardware to reach its full potential. In other words, the nexus s is a peacock you; you've got to let it fly.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes

Bruce lee roy said:
perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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I havent experienced lag in any other game and I have played a few. Asphalt 6 runs smooth as well.
And btw my audio runs perfect and never stutters.
I saw youtube video of overclocked nexus S running GTA3 and even that had performance issues.

just install 1.3, i used to have major lag on 1.2 on my nexus s but on 1.3 i have no lag. Huge improvement!

Bruce lee roy said:
perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
I don't think the processor is to blame for your inability to play the game. The ns processors have proven to be more than capable of handling most processes. Rather, the stock software does not allow the hardware to reach its full potential. In other words, the nexus s is a peacock you; you've got to let it fly.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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Peacocks don't fly

renaming the "audio" folder into "audio1" made the game much much smoother. i don't mind the missing sound. But isn't there a way to make it run even better? i still experience some massive lag problems...

Huge gain in performance by deleting the Audio folder. Thanks for the tip, now I can enjoy this game.
Controls take some getting to.
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guru2468 said:
I have the same problem and I also like to know how to fix it.. The game runs reaply badly for my usual gaming habits. I use Matrix kernel @ 1.46GHz and the latest CM9 nightly. I get really high bench scores for 4.0.3 and overall performance kicks the ass of my friends' stock Galaxy SII I-9100.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
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If you honestly think that your quadrant score makes your phone with a single A8 cortex core faster than two A9 cores there is something seriously wrong with you. Software tweaks can make up to 1% difference in actual performance.
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migueldbr said:
just install 1.3, i used to have major lag on 1.2 on my nexus s but on 1.3 i have no lag. Huge improvement!
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Just did that and you got me excited as there was no lag in the opening cutscene. But it was back as soon as I started driving.
The sad part is I thought I wouldnt care about the game as the controls would be really bad but they arent that bad, it's very much playable but the performance is the issue.

Gambler_3 said:
Xperia play unrooted and stock seems to play it quite smoothly, nexus S is more powerful so surely it should run smooth??
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Don't forget that the xperia play has a super fast graphics chip. That's why most of the time it will outdo may other newer phones with gaming in mind

Give this a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22884431#post22884431
For the Galaxy S, but works on my nexus s. (5 FPS improvement)

jaju123 said:
If you honestly think that your quadrant score makes your phone with a single A8 cortex core faster than two A9 cores there is something seriously wrong with you. Software tweaks can make up to 1% difference in actual performance.
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I didn't say that the hardware is faster, I just sayed that the real world performance of my Nexus us better in this particular case. Also I sayed that my scores are high, but I didn't really relate that to making a significant difference...
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greenie25 said:
Don't forget that the xperia play has a super fast graphics chip. That's why most of the time it will outdo may other newer phones with gaming in mind
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Isn't our SGX540 faster? I would say the game is just well optimized for the Xperia Play. Our GPU is pretty ok, it's actually still built in to the Galaxy Nexus (although I think it is higher clocked in this newer phone
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Games on acer a700

Hi together!
Today I tried some HD games on our tablet.
I was trying dead trigger and the dark knight rises, both lagged a lot.
I tried with high performance but didn't help.
How are your experiences with games?
Edit: I just installed cpu master antutu and put scaling on demand. I think it's better now.
Perhaps someone else can try this out and confirm this.
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Hi matey,
I've been trying Dead Trigger and that one worked just fine with me. Both saving and performance mode. Dark Knight Rises (and the Amazing Spider-Man) lagged for me too. Can't really tell if this is a hardware or software limitation. Wild Blood (also a Gameloft game) lagged for me too but then after an update that was solved. I installed Modern Combat 4, which lags a little too. Especially in the cutscenes.
That's why I'm going to try out the app you mentioned, let's see if that fixes some things. Thanks for that.
I'm really hoping Vorbeth (awesome person) is able to overclock the processor (CPU). He's already done overclocking the GPU. I think after he succeeds overclocking the CPU, things are going a lot smoother.

The problem is not the CPU. on High performance, the cpu score is even better than on the Nexus 7.
The problem that causes the lags is the high display resolution since the tegra 3 is only designed to run fluently in 1280x800.
Vorbeth's custom Kernel to overclock the GPU helps a little. But I think the bottleneck is the vram speed since the framebuffer on the A700 is bigger than on other tablets.

nex86 said:
The problem is not the CPU. on High performance, the cpu score is even better than on the Nexus 7.
The problem that causes the lags is the high display resolution since the tegra 3 is only designed to run fluently in 1280x800.
Vorbeth's custom Kernel to overclock the GPU helps a little. But I think the bottleneck is the vram speed since the framebuffer on the A700 is bigger than on other tablets.
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Can you elaborate on the vram? I'm not familair with that, really.
The TEGRA 3 isn't specifically designed for that resultion. Optimized seems more applicable, since the CPU just processes the stuff. Overclocking would in theory process even more stuff, so that will include data from the GPU to the display, I guess. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've installed AnTuTu Cpu Master, but what is "Go MaxSpeed Load"? It's default value is 85,

TomONeill said:
Edit:
I've installed AnTuTu Cpu Master, but what is "Go MaxSpeed Load"? It's default value is 85,
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I have to check that, haven't even seen that option. Anyway, no idea what its for.
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TomONeill said:
Can you elaborate on the vram? I'm not familair with that, really.
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The vram is shared on the main ram which is DDR2 only on the A510/A700.
All other Tegra 3 tablets have DDR3 that should bring a bit more performance.
The A700 is basically based on the A510. The only difference is the display.
So the Asus TF700 should bring a better performance at the same CPU speed due to a faster RAM type.

nex86 said:
The vram is shared on the main ram which is DDR2 only on the A510/A700.
All other Tegra 3 tablets have DDR3 that should bring a bit more performance.
The A700 is basically based on the A510. The only difference is the display.
So the Asus TF700 should bring a better performance at the same CPU speed due to a faster RAM type.
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I see your point. That means we're just doomed then :/

putti71 said:
Hi together!
Today I tried some HD games on our tablet.
I was trying dead trigger and the dark knight rises, both lagged a lot.
I tried with high performance but didn't help.
How are your experiences with games?
Edit: I just installed cpu master antutu and put scaling on demand. I think it's better now.
Perhaps someone else can try this out and confirm this.
Sent from my A700 using xda app-developers app
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Which version OS are you using?
In my experience, When A700 is 4.04 Dead trigger is fxxking lag.
After update to 4.1, all performance becom smoother

casper326 said:
Which version OS are you using?
In my experience, When A700 is 4.04 Dead trigger is fxxking lag.
After update to 4.1, all performance becom smoother
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I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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putti71 said:
I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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dark knight... I haven't try it.
But A700 is using full HD screen... not every game optimized for this resolution...
TF700 also will meet this problem...

casper326 said:
dark knight... I haven't try it.
But A700 is using full HD screen... not every game optimized for this resolution...
TF700 also will meet this problem...
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mmmm,
wondering if we can lower the resolution to say 720p.... just a thought

I already had this thought since I got the A700.
It would be nice if it's possible to change the output resolution to 1280x800 that it gets upscaled to 1920x1200.
I have read up about changing the resolution on android and the key might be the kernel start parameters in the bootloader.
but also patching the display driver could do it.

If we change the kernel, there is no way back, only flashing the original kernel.
I think the best way is to wait and hope that the game developers come up with some solution, hopefully.
When I bought the HTC one x, the situation was similar. There were only a few games working. And now, all of the HD games work.
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I really doubt that the game developers will come with a solution for FullHD tablets, especially not gameloft since they care ****-all about the A700 or the Tegra 3 itself.

nex86 said:
I really doubt that the game developers will come with a solution for FullHD tablets, especially not gameloft since they care ****-all about the A700 or the Tegra 3 itself.
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I hope you're wrong
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putti71 said:
I hope you're wrong
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The One X got supported as it was HTC's Flagship phone, selling quite well, Full HD Tablets don't sell so well, so they won't even invest the ££ needed to support the lesser known tablets.
They may support Full HD for the nexus 10, but thats not a Tegra device

putti71 said:
I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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i'm also on JB, i play dark knight fluently. However amazing spider man lags big time, too bad i liked the game and my son also..
I've flashed that GPU kernel maybe that solves dark knight.

I'm on JB (RV18RC01_EMEA_FR, build 1.052) and the games you talk (expect spiderman wich I don't have) run smoothly on my tablet.
Some games received an update that solve lag but Acer make the system better and better.
One game lag for me it's NFS most wanted. It is playable but the car seem to run slowly.
I regret that some big developer (Game Loft is the perfect example) don't support HD tablet and their games don't appear on Play Store.
But if this game are downloaded with a supported device (my Xperia S) and loaded on tab they work perfectly (Nova 3).
Envoyé depuis mon A700 avec Tapatalk

with Iconian 2.4 they do appear on the playstore, but Nova 3 is still unplayable slow.

Perhaps because I buy Nova 3 directly from Game Loft.
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Quick questions about One S

Need some quick help to decide between One S and 8X for someone on a Vodafone contract.
- does the OneS record 1080p video at 24fps like the OneX, or is there true 30fps?
- what are the differences between the standard and the "C2" model of the OneS?
- how is the 4.1.1 update for the device? visible improvements in battery/performance?
thanks!

zerozoneice said:
Need some quick help to decide between One S and 8X for someone on a Vodafone contract.
- does the OneS record 1080p video at 24fps like the OneX, or is there true 30fps?
- what are the differences between the standard and the "C2" model of the OneS?
- how is the 4.1.1 update for the device? visible improvements in battery/performance?
thanks!
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Camera is the same as the One X and the C2 is a bit crap so dont get it lol and loving JB but the battery not as good but its not bad.

zerozoneice said:
- does the OneS record 1080p video at 24fps like the OneX, or is there true 30fps?
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It records 1080p at 30fps.
zerozoneice said:
- what are the differences between the standard and the "C2" model of the OneS?
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The C2 model has an S3 CPU. The 'standard' has the S4 CPU. The S4 is much more desirable as it is faster, runs cooler, uses less power, and (if you care abou such things) has way more community support.
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- how is the 4.1.1 update for the device? visible improvements in battery/performance?
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Someone else may answer this one.

touch of jobo said:
It records 1080p at 30fps.
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Em how? fps is crap on mine.

thx @ all, how can i recognize a C2 device from the original package?
from specs i see C2 (with S3 cpu) has 1.7Ghz while standard S4 (krait) has 1.5GHz
so if i see 1.5ghz on the box, it's the standard (better) one?
i had the OneX myself and loved it, swapped it with an iphone 4S out of pure economic reasons, but i remember it recorded 1080p at 24fps/~10mbps which was a bit crappy for bigscreen
on the device itself it was fine bitrate wise, but the FPS drove me nuts.
The 8X has 30fps, tested it in store today, it's very smooth.
I'm torn between those 2 devices now
btw i read the C2 didn't get the 4.1 JB update, is it true? will it ever get it?

Yes, look at the box. The model number for the S4 is Z520. S3 is Z560 i think.
And CPU Speed is as you said. You want the one with 1.5Ghz

zerozoneice said:
thx @ all, how can i recognize a C2 device from the original package?
from specs i see C2 (with S3 cpu) has 1.7Ghz while standard S4 (krait) has 1.5GHz
so if i see 1.5ghz on the box, it's the standard (better) one?
i had the OneX myself and loved it, swapped it with an iphone 4S out of pure economic reasons, but i remember it recorded 1080p at 24fps/~10mbps which was a bit crappy for bigscreen
on the device itself it was fine bitrate wise, but the FPS drove me nuts.
The 8X has 30fps, tested it in store today, it's very smooth.
I'm torn between those 2 devices now
btw i read the C2 didn't get the 4.1 JB update, is it true? will it ever get it?
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C2 will get the update but it takes them longer to get an update.

thx @ all again
so it's a tie regarding 1080p FPS
can someone please post a short 1080p sample, or check its properties on a PC?
thx

touch of jobo said:
It records 1080p at 30fps.
The C2 model has an S3 CPU. The 'standard' has the S4 CPU. The S4 is much more desirable as it is faster, runs cooler, uses less power, and (if you care abou such things) has way more community support.
Someone else may answer this one.
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Sorry for noob question but how do I tell whether mine is C2 model or if I have S4 CPU?

TheCrow1372 said:
Sorry for noob question but how do I tell whether mine is C2 model or if I have S4 CPU?
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.... how about reading the thread?

Goatshocker said:
.... how about reading the thread?
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I don't have the box, lost in my move sorry also can you go back to my other post and see if you can answer my question about the driver please?

zerozoneice said:
thx @ all again
so it's a tie regarding 1080p FPS
can someone please post a short 1080p sample, or check its properties on a PC?
thx
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I say it again its the same as OneX.
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I don't have the box, lost in my move sorry also can you go back to my other post and see if you can answer my question about the driver please?
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What speed is your cpu?

Darknites said:
I say it again its the same as OneX.
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What speed is your cpu?
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hmm, check the 4th screenshot...it's 29.7FPS...and it seems stock rom with no camera mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36138705&postcount=2133

Nothing wrong with the S3 model, if there was an S5 model the same people ^ would be saying the S4 was crap. My S3 was an import and considerably cheaper than the price charged locally. I'm very happy with it, good battery life, responsive, bright screen with great colours and it makes phone calls too!
Of course there are differences if you stack the phones side by side and run benchmarks but in day to day use you would never notice them. To find out which you have go to About Phone and look at Hardware information, If your processor says 1.5GHz you have an S4, if 1.7GHz you have an S3.

Troute said:
Nothing wrong with the S3 model, if there was an S5 model the same people ^ would be saying the S4 was crap.
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Obviously, since the S4 would be crap compared to the S5. Just as the S3 is crap compared to the S4.
But the biggest issue with the S3 isnt its hardware - its the custom rom/kernel scene thats the biggest issue.
At the moment the S3 is more like "what you see is what you get", while the S4 is "what you see is just a fraction of what you can get".
Also, ICS doesnt list the CPU Speed in the hardware info field. Maybe JB does, I dont know, but ICS does NOT.
Just thought Id point that out

Goatshocker said:
Obviously, since the S4 would be crap compared to the S5. Just as the S3 is crap compared to the S4.
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The grass is always greener syndrome, if the S3 was all you could get you'd be singing it's praises.
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But the biggest issue with the S3 isnt its hardware - its the custom rom/kernel scene thats the biggest issue.
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That's only an issue if it's an issue, I'm happy running stock (with tweaks) on almost every device I have.
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At the moment the S3 is more like "what you see is what you get", while the S4 is "what you see is just a fraction of what you can get".
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A matter of perspective, when I buy a phone I look at the specs for what it has, not what I can turn it into. I've never flashed a rom yet that made spectacular differences to a device and to my mind flashing is only of use to upgrade a device that's older and not getting official updates.
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Also, ICS doesnt list the CPU Speed in the hardware info field. Maybe JB does, I dont know, but ICS does NOT.
Just thought Id point that out
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Does on my 4.0.4 S3, must be a failing on S4 phones, I'd sell up quick before the universe realises you've got an inferior model

zerozoneice said:
hmm, check the 4th screenshot...it's 29.7FPS...and it seems stock rom with no camera mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36138705&postcount=2133
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Don't care what a screenshot says but my eyes and also just done a video and the pc is saying 21 lol but the camera is the same as the OneX even the camera mods from the OneX work.

zerozoneice said:
- how is the 4.1.1 update for the device? visible improvements in battery/performance?
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Performance is better, as in it scores better in benchmark tests, not something I really notice in every day usage though.
Battery life is better for me, if I don't use the powersave option. Also having setcpu (or something similar) installed helps.

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Don't care what a screenshot says but my eyes and also just done a video and the pc is saying 21 lol but the camera is the same as the OneX even the camera mods from the OneX work.
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hmm....

well, got the phone today, it's a S3 model with 1.7GHz
they didn't have the S4 anywhere in stock with Vodafone for a long time
it has 4.0.3 on it and finds no software updates...

MDNIE Hardcore Sharpness Fix

Ok Guys i have a Question.
How u implent this Screen Fix? Is it Kernel Based?
Since all the Galaxy Devices was able to get Hardcore Sharpness Tweaks(MDNIE FIX), Im curious about the Galaxy S4 to get it too?
Because it has a Snapdragon Processor, which is not dev friendly...
Thanks

hamad138 said:
Ok Guys i have a Question.
How u implent this Screen Fix? Is it Kernel Based?
Since all the Galaxy Devices was able to get Hardcore Sharpness Tweaks(MDNIE FIX), Im curious about the Galaxy S4 to get it too?
Because it has a Snapdragon Processor, which is not dev friendly...
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First of all, Snapdragon is more dev-friendly than Exynos.
Secondly, it's not dependent on SOC support.
Finally, yes it will definitely get the sharpness fix from Kernel Developers.

how much sharper does it need to be ?

NuclearEMP said:
how much sharper does it need to be ?
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It's actually the other way. De-sharpening.

You want to sharpen what exactly?

BoneXDA said:
You want to sharpen what exactly?
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The 5 inch 1080p screen.

I need confirmation from a coder that mdnie fix is not kernel based.
Believe me qualcomm only give drivers but u cant modify the kernel like exynos or tegra

Vertron said:
The 5 inch 1080p screen.
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But what on it? Text looks super sharp at 1080p and image sharpness depends on source.

hamad138 said:
I need confirmation from a coder that mdnie fix is not kernel based.
Believe me qualcomm only give drivers but u cant modify the kernel like exynos or tegra
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U dont need any shaprening? and u can modify the kernel on qualcomm what nonsense is this? Im running a color mod right now called trinity colors... Which works on Qualcomm and cools the amoled however isnt available for s3 with exynos... U dont need to sharpen anything on the s4
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.

Why is anyone worrying about screen mods on a screen we haven't used before.

howtomen said:
Im running a color mod right now called trinity colors... Which works on Qualcomm and cools the amoled however isnt available for s3 with exynos...
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Not true. Perseus kernel for SGSIII/SGNII Exynos version has excellent color calibration setting and even pre-calibrated values. Screen looks really nice with this kernel.
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If SGS4's Adobe RGB mode is really calibrated then most likely we won't need any color setting hacks. As for de-sharpening - we will see when SGS4 will appear in stores.

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But what on it? Text looks super sharp at 1080p and image sharpness depends on source.
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It artificial sharpens the screen to make it look even sharper.

Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505) - Games Focus

Hi all, for those of you interested, I shot a video focus on the GT-I9505 performance while running cpu/gpu intensive games like Real Racing 3, Need For Speed Most Wanted, Asphalt 7, Dead Trigger, etc
http://youtu.be/Ibj_o5YahhM
Ciaoooooo

Very nice video!
One concern that I had, and now after watching this video is an even bigger concern, is gaming performance. Overall all games are somewhat lagging, I believe that this is due to the high resolution, that not only it has to process more pixels, but also requires additional video memory, which I believe is shared with the system memory.
I got very excited to buy this phone after S4 GE announcement, but now I'm skeptical, I have seen the Nexus 4 running games a lot smoother than this and I'm worried I will have to upgrade again soon in the future for a phone with a better GPU like Adreno 330 to be able to play newer games in 1920x1080 while the Nexus 4 could still play the same game smoothly.
What do you guys think? are you also disappointed with gaming performance?

sniperbr0 said:
Very nice video!
One concern that I had, and now after watching this videos is an even bigger concern, is gaming performance. Overall all games are somewhat lagging, I believe that this is due to the high resolution, that not only has to process more pixels, but also requires additional video memory, which I believe is shared with the system memory.
I got very excited to buy this phone after S4 GE announcement, but now I'm skeptical, I have seen the Nexus 4 running games a lot smoother than this and I'm worried I will have to upgrade again soon in the future for a phone with a better GPU like Adreno 330 to be able to play newer games in 1920x1080 while the Nexus 4 could still play the same game smoothly.
What do you guys think? are you also disappointed with gaming performance?
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Frankly speaking, I'm disappointed for the whole performance experience with my GT-I9505. The whole system it's not perfectly smooth and there's some stuttering here and there. The same issue obviously happen during games, although it's not so noticeable.
To be honest, any device I tried with the recent Qualcomm architecture (I mean both APQ8064 and APQ8064T Snapdragon 600), screen resolution apart, was not completely smooth during games like NFSMW or Real Racing 3. And, just to give a term of comparison, I had: PadFone 2, Nexus 4, Xperia Z, Optimus G, HTC One and Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505). On Android OS, I could just see the Galaxy Note 2 (Exynos and Mali of course) running almost perfectly smooth Need For Speed Most Wanted. Then, I wouldn't be that worried about games and even more about general performances of GT-I9505. Samsung it's relatively new to APQ8064(T), then I guess it can only get better in the next updates.

Any game not running perfect on this phone just needs optimization that's all. The soc is relatively new in most regards, and aside from the mali-t6, has the most capable graphics card out there. The mali 400 used in the s2 through the note 2 handle every game just about prefect.
Swyped from a minimalist S2

how abouti9500 one and is it better:? they gave me this version im so sad and i forced to chose this phone

I think octa is more for gamming, gpu have more Power, some games really need optimizations
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matheus_sc said:
I think octa is more for gamming, gpu have more Power, some games really need optimizations
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Dont think so
The 320 is on the same level as the power vr , according to some sites , the adreno is little bit better
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Playing real racing and fpse and had never a lag and a slow down.
Most people which say s4 is slow use the crappy touchwiz interface.
I can tell you guys its not the phone or the hardware which is laggy,its just touchwiz.
Get rid of it and you will never have a lag,launcher redraw or a slow down anymore
Edit:
I run a superslim deodexed and pre rooted 4.2.2 rom and have no lag and perfect battery life.
Just try it guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
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MultiLockOn said:
Any game not running perfect on this phone just needs optimization that's all. The soc is relatively new in most regards, and aside from the mali-t6, has the most capable graphics card out there. The mali 400 used in the s2 through the note 2 handle every game just about prefect.
Swyped from a minimalist S2
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Yeah I think it's this and a combination of the Touchwiz interface and other bloated apps / processes.
optimising games for the phones hardware will increase performance in terms of average fps and that sort of thing but these random dips and microstutters we see are caused by background processes and services. Touchwiz is the main culprit but not the only culprit.

kamranhaghighi said:
how abouti9500 one and is it better:? they gave me this version im so sad and i forced to chose this phone
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The 9500 uses the Octacore. It's a little bit more powerful than the APQ8064T you can find into the 9505.
On the other side, you will just have HSPA modem, not the LTE one. Only in korea for what I can remember, Samsung release an Octacore version together with an LTE modem.
If you don't need or you can't use LTE, you should have a slightly better device than the 9505.

Aratheba said:
The 9500 uses the Octacore. It's a little bit more powerful than the APQ8064T you can find into the 9505.
On the other side, you will just have HSPA modem, not the LTE one. Only in korea for what I can remember, Samsung release an Octacore version together with an LTE modem.
If you don't need or you can't use LTE, you should have a slightly better device than the 9505.
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in iran we dont even have 3g we have 2g or edge that max speed is 10kb/s! that means 80kbps! seems they are alsmot same anyway i dont ahve performance probelms and happy whit my s4 expext I FORCED TO PAY a lot of money i was goign to buy nexus 4 they gave me wrong version (8gb) they told me w dont have the 16gb so i forced to chose that! btw it wroth screen is freakigna wesome and thin and light (i dont care about weight and thin!)

devgee said:
Dont think so
The 320 is on the same level as the power vr , according to some sites , the adreno is little bit better
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Both have their advantages. Power VR can push out more FPS but the adreno has a better hexagon fill rate. The adreno 320is the newer chip and unfortunately many games are not optimized for it yet. The power vr on the I9500 is older and thus why some games will play more smoothly. If you try a game like real racing 3 you will see what I mean. However, a game like asphalt 7, both devices should handle well.

But why should Asphalt be no problem? I played it and it plays smooth Like it should. The game Epoch is running smooth but a simple game as carmaggedon has frame drop. Epoch is unreal powered and looks awsome.
Could this be because of optimizing games? I sure hope so. I love the device.
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