Hi guys, I need an advice on buying an older model smart phone. I don't want to spend more than $200 on it and I was thinking of getting Atrix 4G that costs less than $200. Is it still good idea to buy this older model since it's not going to get an ice cream sandwich upgrade? Or does this really matter? What would be the lifespan left of this phone? I don't need this phone to play any games, I just need it to browse, email and skype. Do you guys have any other suggestions?
Thanks for your time.
Anything older than ICS is going to be pretty lackluster in my opinion - you might check to see what, if any, ROMs are available for the phones you're looking at.
Anything you can get for $200 is probably at the end of its "lifespan" already - not supported. Lifespan that you can use it - well, I imagine ICS will be supported for a while, but anything less is, to me, risking having apps you want to use not support it any more in the future.
You can get some decent phones at that price. You could probably get a used Galaxy Nexus - which would be a good choice as it will continue to be supported by Google likely for some time. It will just take a bit of hunting and sniping on eBay to get one at that price that's in decent condition.
Hi erikmarko,
I've bought a Motorola Atrix in november (160€≈200$). It's a great phone and a cool developpement tool. But CM10/AOKP ROM it's not fine for it. I don't know why there are many graphic bug (for example, i can't make a benchmark -> fc on 3d test).
But if you install CM7/9, you'll get an awesome phone for gaming and HD videos playing. For your requirements, what do you think about an Xperia x10 ? Cheaper than Atrix but great too for you if you want only check your mails etc...
Or if you have worries about lifespan, you can listen Pennycake and check eBay for a used Nexus or Nexus S (Google will support it longer than Motorola supports Atrix).
Sorry for my bad English
GoL LuM
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GoL LuM, I have couple of questions for you. That CM7/9 is it custom rom that you can upload to the phone? And does it run ICS software when I upgrade to it? Does Xperia x10 run ICS?
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Hi erikmarko,
I've bought a Motorola Atrix in november (160€≈200$). It's a great phone and a cool developpement tool. But CM10/AOKP ROM it's not fine for it. I don't know why there are many graphic bug (for example, i can't make a benchmark -> fc on 3d test).
But if you install CM7/9, you'll get an awesome phone for gaming and HD videos playing. For your requirements, what do you think about an Xperia x10 ? Cheaper than Atrix but great too for you if you want only check your mails etc...
Or if you have worries about lifespan, you can listen Pennycake and check eBay for a used Nexus or Nexus S (Google will support it longer than Motorola supports Atrix).
Sorry for my bad English
GoL LuM
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You should buy an atrix HD (new) , its a phenomenal device with not much development. If you buy an old phone, buy the HTC Google nexus one (2010).
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Guys, I was afraid that if I get a phone that is stuck on Gingerbread and let's say new version of skype comes out it will require ICS to run. Do I need to worry about that? Or does gingerbread OS still have few years left?
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GoL LuM, I have couple of questions for you. That CM7/9 is it custom rom that you can upload to the phone? And does it run ICS software when I upgrade to it? Does Xperia x10 run ICS?
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I don't understand your question. CyanogenMod is a custom ROM. Your can upload and install it to the phone. All you need is just a unlocked bootloader (there are tutorials on Google). Take a tour in the "Motorola Atrix 4G" section on XDA.
CM7=Gingerbread
CM9=Ice Cream Sandwich
CM10=Jelly Bean
If you need specific apps that require ICS, just install CM9.
For the Xperia x10, it runs CM9/CM10.
For more information, don't hesitate to ask.
GoL LuM
Sorry for bad english
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Aha! thanks for explaining this to me GoL LuM. Sorry my question maybe did not make sense because I'm a total newbie when it comes to phones.
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I don't understand your question. CyanogenMod is a custom ROM. Your can upload and install it to the phone. All you need is just a unlocked bootloader (there are tutorials on Google). Take a tour in the "Motorola Atrix 4G" section on XDA.
CM7=Gingerbread
CM9=Ice Cream Sandwich
CM10=Jelly Bean
If you need specific apps that require ICS, just install CM9.
For the Xperia x10, it runs CM9/CM10.
For more information, don't hesitate to ask.
GoL LuM
Sorry for bad english
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I don't said that your question didn't make sense. I just have some difficulty to understand english sometimes ^^
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No problem GoL LuM, I learned something from your answer. Oh and by the way you live in a cool city. I love Paris I have been there two times and will visit it again. Maybe this time Catacombes will be open I had no luck last time
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I don't said that your question didn't make sense. I just have some difficulty to understand english sometimes ^^
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No problem GoL LuM, I learned something from your answer. Oh and by the way you live in a cool city. I love Paris I have been there two times and will visit it again. Maybe this time Catacombes will be open I had no luck last time
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I'm absolutely agree with you.
If you want more informations about Paris' catacombs, maybe this website will help you :
http://www.catacombes-de-paris.fr/english.htm
Hope you'll enjoy Paris
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I <3 rien, I'm parisien
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what's the best popular rom for us
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I'm using the new venom ROM. I've tried buoyancy, nexusmod, and super stock. I like venom so far. I'll probably switch before to long. That's the beauty of Android - lots to choose from.
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personal preference my friend. Try a couple out and see which one you like
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Agreed, you have to try some out and pick your favorite. If you ask 20 people on this section by PM randomly I bet you'd get at least 5-6 different answers.
SkyICS + Venom depending on your personal taste get my vote right now for multiple reasons, but the biggest being support and production. A vast majority of the roms that have come out for this phone have never/rarely been updated (no offense intended, people have lives, things happen, you get new phones, etc...).
Often, the stock ROM is the best since at least all the phone's capabilities are accounted for. More often, a rooted stock ROM is better since you can freeze bloatware, get around tethering restrictions and the like. Beyond that, it's kind of up to you to do your homework to make sure that a particular ROM does everything you need it to do (Bluetooth streaming, both cameras work, etc) and that you like the layout.
On a side note......
Q: What's the best way not to spam the board?
A: You don't post the same question in multiple sections.
Please don't do it again. Thank you.
Running venom right now and very pleased.
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If you enjoy a nice, clean, look, I'd check out NeXuSMOD 2.0. It does everything I need it to do, and it's very easy on the eyes. Solid battery life as well.
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what's the best popular rom for us
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I've been enjoying Ice Cream Sandwich - Multiple Flavors. While I'm tempted to try some of the other ROMs out there, this one is really great.
It's the overclocked version, I scored a AnTuTu benchmark of 7284.
Does anybody when and or when I can drop Android 4.0.x on my baby?
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To all the New Xda Members !! patient is a virtue !!
Well to be honest there are tons of threads that can answer your question. The answer that i know is Sammy said they will release 4.0 for all galaxy variants in first quarter of this year and they said this back in December and have not heard any fixed time period since than.
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Does anybody when and or when I can drop Android 4.0.x on my baby?
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First off, I want to say that I read the threads extensively, including the cm9 and nunhuggers uniporn threads and I know that neither rom, nor any other cm9 based rom has working Bluetooth.
I realized from what I've read so far that this is a major task and fixing it is going to be a pain, so please if you have an issue with this topic be nice or don't read it. Don't bash me for asking a question. I use Bluetooth and love the ics Roms that have been released so I gave up bluetooth use to use nunhuggers aokp rom which is amazing.
Allentown I want to know is IF anyone is actively working on a resolution for this issue.
Thanks in advance for any useful information you can provide and as always, thank you to all you developers out there for created such amazing roms for us infuse users.
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+1
720p hd vid recording and playback also.
As far as i know bluetooth is a kernel side problem...so.it would take a kernel dev to fix...and since entropy and jt are the only two.who have worked on ics kernel...id say they are the only two who may be working on bluetooth...
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I've never worked on a Linux or Android Kernel - it's been almost a decade since I touched C/C++. I've often wondered the chances of a seasoned developer (C# here) who wasn't been around a lot of C/C++ development solving the bluetooth issue. In the end, learning some of these things comes down to brute force trial and error. However, it would be nice to know from an experienced kernel dev what we'd be up against - or where to start hammering.
Is this something one could do in the evening and get back to a usable phone by the next morning? I'd hate to have to pull out the candy-bar Nokia...but I bet it still works (and with awesome battery+voice quality)!
Also Hdmi would be nice
Like many have said before... once the sony xperia sola comes out, then we have a lot better chance of getting it working
That's good news I hadn't heard before. Thanks!
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Like many have said before... once the sony xperia sola comes out, then we have a lot better chance of getting it working
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Great news to hear Ryan!! Quick question, who will be handling Bluetooth for the Sony Xperia Sola that would allow kernel integration for the Infuse?
Edit: As in the company handling it lol
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Great news to hear Ryan!! Quick question, who will be handling Bluetooth for the Sony Xperia Sola that would allow kernel integration for the Infuse?
Edit: As in the company handling it lol
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You mean which company made the bluetooth part? Tbh i can not remember... i think its texas instruments, but honestly i can not remember.
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You mean which company made the bluetooth part? Tbh i can not remember... i think its texas instruments, but honestly i can not remember.
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Just hope that someone is working on it. Thanks everyone!
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Just trying to put some of the different information together. I'd seen bits and pieces but wasn't aware of it all...
A previous thread in this forum showed that the Infuse uses the CG2900 by ST Ericsson.
In jt1134's ICS Rom thread, pdtp stated that the Sony Xperia Sola uses the NOVATHORTM U8500 which contains the CG2900. This phone is expected to be released with 2.3 Gingerbread but updated to 4.0 ICS.
Other device(s) have used the CG2900, with the attempt at integration discussed by LinuxBozo.
Alright, I've taken my first steps into a larger world. I've installed Linux to my laptop and I'm gonna see if I can start the long and seemingly complicated road to kernel development.
My ultimate goal is to attempt to create a kernel with HDMI out support, working Bluetooth, full HD video playback, and a few more needs for the Infuse that need fulfilling, including better battery life and greater wifi range quality.
I know it wont be easy at all considering the two ICS kernels we have are made by tried and true pros, but even they started somewhere, and made some mistakes. No greater teacher for software development than trial and error. Wish me luck folks.
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Best of luck to you. If you go out and search Google for CG2900 Snowball you'll see that even the original developers of the chip were seeking help determining how they should implement their driver. There's open issues with it under Linux as well. I'm amazed it made it into a phone in this kindof shape.
Perhaps that's why the hope is on the Sony phone - they've been fairly transparent as of late with source code drops on their Android phones. Maybe they'll take the time and clean up the driver for the phone?
Thanks, hopefully there is a way to integrate it. I've got a ton of reading to do, let me ask this, is a device's kernel limited to programming native to that device only? I.e., porting that bluetooth tree over to the Infuse? Or that of the Galaxy S II?
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Ryanscool said:
Like many have said before... once the sony xperia sola comes out, then we have a lot better chance of getting it working
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sola-4408.php
it's out
Interesting!! I'll figure something out. Pm'd Entropy on some starter advice.
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Interesting!! I'll figure something out. Pm'd Entropy on some starter advice.
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Bravo to you sir, you are far braver than I. I would imagine there would be many a donation coming your way if you were able to figure something out. Best of luck.
Thanks Mushroom. I want to just say that I'm not doing this because I'm unhappy with our current ICS Kernels, but because I want to give our devices more variety with development.
We're at the mercy of the kernel no matter how impressive the Rom, just imagine having full capabilities and having our community push out ICS original Roms and other devices seeking to port from us!!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sola-4408.php
it's out
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Yay! Does anyone know if it will be in a carrier?
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Interesting!! I'll figure something out. Pm'd Entropy on some starter advice.
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Wish you luck. Probably best if you start of his, then build around it modding the kernel, as i think building it yourself is very hard.
Its very intimidating. May start with a Gingerbread base and see what I can migrate over to ICS
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I think jellybean is being announced next week. If not sorry just close this thread.
What does everyone expect from jellybean? Will it 4.1 or 5.0? What new features will it add? Thoughts and/of opinions please!
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invasion2 said:
I think jellybean is being announced next week. If not sorry just close this thread.
What does everyone expect from jellybean? Will it 4.1 or 5.0? What jew features will it add? Thoughts and/of opinions please!
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Am I the only one that sees the word Jew in this. Lol
Devices:
Motorola DroidX
Motorola Droid
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Asus Transformer
Lg Revolution
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Am I the only one that sees the word Jew in this. Lol
Devices:
Motorola DroidX
Motorola Droid
Motorola Cliq
Asus Transformer
Lg Revolution
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Edited, lol
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Probably a lot of bug fixes and performance/stability updates. ICS was a massive upgrade. I've given up on a fragmentation fix for a while...however, hopefully Jelly Bean will introduce mojal. Google's voice assistant
I expect more threads and questions like these around xda...possibly these device forums.
I'm no psychic or anything, just a prediction.
I2IEAILiiTY said:
I expect more threads and questions like these around xda...possibly these device forums.
I'm no psychic or anything, just a prediction.
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Just trying to start conversation...
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Just trying to start conversation...
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Lol I know. I was just saying.
That was my answer to the questions in the op
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Its going to be 4.1, as there was a leak image of it being 4.1. I could be wrong though
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Its going to be 4.1, as there was a leak image of it being 4.1. I could be wrong though
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It was on that nexus wallet thing where I saw 4.1.
I like how you always put "I could be wrong" at the end of your posts. Lol
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
It was on that nexus wallet thing where I saw 4.1.
I like how you always put "I could be wrong" at the end of your posts. Lol
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lol, i put that so i dont get fully blamed for my comment, if people take it as fact. i always be sure that there is a possible case of me being wrong. that way im safe lol
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lol, i put that so i dont get fully blamed for my comment, if people take it as fact. i always be sure that there is a possible case of me being wrong. that way im safe lol
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I do that a lot, too. It helps keep the trolls at bay.
I really wish Google would stop releasing new versions. They're KILLING us with fragmentation. My company has created a couple of Android apps and released them, but fragmentation is really hurting them.
4.1 i think
ICS began to start working fine for our phones, now theres jellybean tomorrow. oh man, hope we can get that too
offline dictation, my wish came true.
It s coming mid July
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Hmmm... Offline dictation, or at least a better voice recognition... I really don;t know why I cant make any of my android phones work the voice recognition as my old blackberry curve. I don't really need the system to get me con cert tickets or how is the weather in Japan... just need something fully integrated that can read and take my messages, dial correctly any phone number I ask for and play the music I ask. Is that sooooo dificult to accomplish??? Or is it the fact that I speak in spanish so I need it to work in spanish while the phone is in english.
The new notification system and Google Now are awesome! I really do hope the devs here can get it on our phones. I think the kernel we are using is fine. I don't think jellybean has a whole new kernel. Mid July, and I shall see if the devs can whip something up
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Well, considering our ram is just a bit less than current specs (1gb) i really hope that we can still get this update...:highfive:
Jelly bean WILL have offline voice control. Also I'm guessing we wikl be able to running because based on what I've read, jelly bean is a more polished and stable version of ICS, including numerous performance and stability fixes. Thus if its a more optimized version of ICS, we should be able to run it.
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Jellybean should run quicker with Googles butter project, to bad I am not at home, I really wanna use that sdk dump
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Hi i have the skyrockete from att and was wondering if there was an app i could download from Google play to have Japanese on my phone as there is no option in the languages settings from the factory.
Anyway to do this without rooting?
Thanks
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Bump..
Also, I know there is an App called MoreLocal2 from google play (used on my HTC Inspire 4g, and works better compared to the skyrocket), and it works fine, however, it just doesnt support enough Japanese for my liking, as It only covers simple things, such as the Date, time, and lock screen, but thats about it. No support for the Settings or apps.
Would my phone need to be Rooted to have everything in Japanese? Or is there a 3rd party app?
Thanks.
The basic phone wont have japanese, only keyboard. Maybe a custom rom can support japanese and for that you need more than just rooting.
I'm pretty sure cyanogenmod can fully support japanese.
Thanks
Kind of a dumb question but could I or is it even possible to load the NTT Docomo gs2 software? Seems like a long shot to ask but I want to try and avoid rooting.
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I have no clue what are you talking about.
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I have no clue what are you talking about.
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Would it be possible to remove the US GS2 AT&T software, and load the Japanese GS2 NTT Docomo(carrier like AT&T) Software?
Just wondering, as im trying to avoid rooting for now.
Sorry for the confusion
I still have no clue but you also have to make sure the models are alike hardware wise or you'll get yourself a hardbrick.
Probably not going to happen unless you can get someone to port it for you, keeping the language in Japanese. Even then it still won't be OG DoCoMo, it will be DoCoMo/AT&T Skyrocket. It can be done, it was done with the Chinese version of MIUI to the HTC Sensation but it took A LONG TIME before it was good enough to use. Like I said, probably not going to happen since you are the only one with a vested interest.
Darn, alright thanks to the both of you. Guess I'll just use English till I run into a possible language support
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As I said if you really want jap you could root and flash cyanogenmod but before you do this read this whole forum at least twice.
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As I said if you really want jap you could root and flash cyanogenmod but before you do this read this whole forum at least twice.
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I'll think about rooting for the time being.
Thanks for all the help!!!
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God its so awsome how do I jailbreak it?
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God its so awsome how do I jailbreak it?
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It depends how you put it in terms. For example, jailbreak meaning installing a better ROM on your phone than the one you already have, and secondly, you can only jailbreak an iPhone being the term 'jailbreak' came from iDevices.
are you insulting me, because i'm not fat.
Jailbreak is a term use in iOS. In android, we root our phones. Why? Few reasons, to install custom ROM, it is mainly because that phone no longer receiving update, so have to rely on xda. 2nd, to over clocked your phone. 3rd , dislike skinned ui, example HTC sense , Samsung touch wiz and more. So they would go for pure android aka vanilla. Or some prefer cyanogen version. Anyway, welcome to android, you can find almost all information about your android phone here. Have a nice day
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Google root + your device and carrier. It has worked for me as a new guy. Read up on it first and be careful as flashing roms and root can have permanent negative consequences. Just find your device here on xda and that should be a good starting point
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First off what phone did you get? And if you are new to android, rooting, custom roms etc, I recommend you use the stock android your phone came with for a little to get familiar before you go changing things around.
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God its so awsome how do I jailbreak it?
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Its simple,search for your devic3 in forum there you will get how to root instruction...or tell us ur phone model,we will give you link...happy rooting
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are you insulting me, because i'm not fat.
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In what way did he insult you by saying your fat? "Rooting" and "jailbreaking" are different.
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I smell a troll
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we don't jailbreak android devices , as it is not needed here , but sometimes we root it to gain some special controlling over the device properties.
I would not recommend you to do so , until you get used to the new system and its abilities .
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Closed, next time please read and respect the rules
For the rest try to respect each other, is not that hard of you really try