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Hi, I am looking into getting myself an Android tablet next week and had my heart set on a Motorla Xoom, simply because the price (£279) appears to be the best value around for the spec of the tablet.
One thing that is starting to put me off is alot of people are telling me that the Xoom is 'really heavy'. Now i've read the weight compared to other tablets etc but it doesn't really tell me if the weight is a turn off.
I appreciate if you guys could comment on whether you find the weight of the Xoom to be a hindrance, do you worry about dropping it? is it uncomfortable to hold for browsing the net etc.
Where is the extra weight coming from? is there a bigger battery?
many thanks in advance, the alternate option i have at the same price level is the Galaxy Tab 8.9 which is at the opposite end weight wise, but lacking in storage/screen size etc.
cheers
K
Stillkrazy said:
Hi, I am looking into getting myself an Android tablet next week and had my heart set on a Motorla Xoom, simply because the price (£279) appears to be the best value around for the spec of the tablet.
One thing that is starting to put me off is alot of people are telling me that the Xoom is 'really heavy'. Now i've read the weight compared to other tablets etc but it doesn't really tell me if the weight is a turn off.
I appreciate if you guys could comment on whether you find the weight of the Xoom to be a hindrance, do you worry about dropping it? is it uncomfortable to hold for browsing the net etc.
Where is the extra weight coming from? is there a bigger battery?
many thanks in advance, the alternate option i have at the same price level is the Galaxy Tab 8.9 which is at the opposite end weight wise, but lacking in storage/screen size etc.
cheers
K
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Eh - I Love my Xoom, but in answer to your questions....
Yes, the Xoom could be considered "heavy" as compared to some other
tablets.
Xoom - 708g
Galaxy tab 10.1 - 565g
Acer Iconia Tab A500 - 730g
I don't find it heavy but it feels solid for sure. Has mostly a sturdy aluminum body
Maybe not a one handed tablet but I for one appreciate its build quality - a big factor in me buying it.
Its definitely a bit heavy, can't deny it. But i love it and it doesnt put me off it. Plus for that price its by far the best option
Yes it's heavy but I personally like that feel from my units.
The only knock on the weight is you will find it difficult to prop it up without some sort of stand or case that supports it.
But considering it is a google experience device, has an unlocked bootloader and is now cheap as far as tablets go I wold buy another one today if I was buying my first tablet!
The only knock I have with the unit has nothing to do with the unit at all!
I just can't for the life of me understand why the HD Speaker dock has every port but a USB on it! Has Power, and HDMI but no USB sync port!
The only other unit I have reccomended was the Transformer series for those who want the laptop experience but the ability to have the tab experience as well!
Asus did a good job on that design but the locked bootloader was a no go for me!
Other less savy folks it's fine but since your posting on XDA I would assme you want to make it into a coffee maker as well! LOL
thanks very much for the replies!
it seems that owners of the Xoom don't have buyers remorse then with regards to the weight of the product , which is the only drawback i could see.
I also thought it very strange that the dock(s) dont have usb connections, strange decision that from Moto, especially since it appears the dock uses the micro usb port when its lining up.
All in all the Xoom appears to be more than value for money, and with the standard dock (£18! on amazon) and keyboard (£20) at such low prices aswell, i could see them combining to replace my laptop.
thanks again, be on the lookout for a Xoom n00b hitting the forum next weekend
its not heavy for me at all.my sister has a galaxy tab 10.1 and it has very small difference in weight.i love its thickness and weight.
I was in the same boat this tablet is awesome and I am glad I got it good build quality and as easy to play with as my galaxy nexus. I wish the front facing camera quality was a little better other than that this is an amazing tablet and I love it. Battery life is good too even clocked at 1.5 GHZ
Heavy...come on...don't be like the others be a real man!
My weakling of a wife has no complaints...humans adapt...
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I will say the device is heavy but I always have it on my lap etc so it doesn't bother me. You will get use to it.
Now I will also add in that this is by far the best tablet to own period. I've rooted/rom'd a lot of different android tablets for co-workers and I can say that NONE have as good of a development community as the Xoom does. Fast roms, kernels, backtrack 5, ubuntu, even the USB "camera" adapter can be used for a keyboard/mouse/USB WiFi, USB thumb drives etc. Basically anything with a USB port will run on this thing.
Xoom for life dude.
I also had the same questions before I got my xoom... It's a great device to have and very customizable.
I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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Stillkrazy said:
I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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Good choice!
Yep they are good! - I thought I was a bit late getting one with all the new tablets coming out, but the Xoom does everything I want... as far as weight, it is a little heavy but it doesnt bother me... my mrs and my (almost) 3 year old son use it no problem without a grumble...
Still wondering wether to root it or not... not sure what it would actually gain me
thanks everyone, collected my Xoom from Argos today
great so far.
Should i have registered the same google account as my galaxy s? i didnt, i used a different one, but wondering if i should have used my main one.
thanks
K
If you use the same account, you can purchase apps once and use on both devices.
Stillkrazy said:
I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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Geeba said:
Yep they are good! - I thought I was a bit late getting one with all the new tablets coming out, but the Xoom does everything I want... as far as weight, it is a little heavy but it doesnt bother me... my mrs and my (almost) 3 year old son use it no problem without a grumble...
Still wondering wether to root it or not... not sure what it would actually gain me
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Well, two days in and I've flashed the US from and been upgraded to ICS and I'm absolutely thrilled with the Xoom!
I need to find some good tablet apps though, and looks like I'll have to root it to get the BBC apps (should have realised that, lol)
I've not touched my Galaxy S since I got the Xoom.
For anyone reading later, I would say that, yes, the Xoom is on the heavy side, but the build quality and battery life easy make the trade off worth it. Still can't believe I only paid £279.
From a development point of view, the Xoom is second to none. I've had more fun developing on the Xoom than any other android device ever. Also, running ICS and a bleeding edge. 39 kernel, you have access to mobile technology nobody else has yet, such as WifiDirect. Truly, the xoom is at the forefront of android development, and Eos will continue to push the boundaries of Android reality.
Hmm sounds tempting
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Hello.
I'm looking to possibly buy a Xoom this week and I've just got a few questions.
I used to have the iPad 1 but sold it a few months ago to buy an Android slate.
Last week I picked up a really cheap Sony Tablet S. Initial impressions were ok but I just hate the plastic feel of it. When you press the centre of the screen you can feel the hollowness inside. I really miss the solidness of my iPad. Can you good people tell me does the Xoom have the same solid feel as the iPad? Is the back of the Xoom made out of metal?
Second question is about the screen. I've read its not IPS but normal TFT. How would you rate the screen in the tablet?
Third question is about ICS. Has it been released for the United Kingdom yet? That is another issue I have with the Tablet S - ICS has been pushed back to the end of May
I have just ordered the Xoom into my local Argos store. It should be available to pick up this Friday. I'm 50/50 at the moment whether to splash the cash or not.
I really like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 but after trying the Tablet S I'm worried it may feel too plasticky as well. I'm looking for solidness like my iPad 1
Cheers.
the xoom feels solid i have the silver wifi 3g version and is aluminum in the back, it feels slightly heavy but its fantastic, reminds me of an ipad
Warren_Orange said:
Can you good people tell me does the Xoom have the same solid feel as the iPad? Is the back of the Xoom made out of metal?
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It's a very well-built device, if that's what you mean. I've had mine since Day One in Feb 2011, and I use it daily, it commutes with me every week from Southern to Northern Cali, and I've even brought it along to 3 countries.
What exactly is "solidness" anyway?
Cool thanks.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Solidness
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Solidness
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Really?!
Insults to folks' intelligence aren't a way to win over the users around here.
Listen mate. I used lots of tablets. Ipad, galaxy, toshiba and xoom. Without second thought I would say xoom is the best amongst them all for a very simple reason. It is easy to root and then you get the best ics customized rom ever from eos nightlies builds. I can direct you how should you need to. So go ahead with the xoom
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Really?!
Insults to folks' intelligence aren't a way to win over the users around here.
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I didn't understand your question whether you were being serious or jokey so I replied in a matter of fact way.
If I have caused offence I apologise.
@wesamothman - thanks for your reply and thanks for your offer, that's very kind of you.
I think I'm almost certain I will buy the Xoom - Roll on Friday!
good stuff you made the right decision
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I didn't understand your question whether you were being serious or jokey
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No problem, then. But the question still remains- what does "solidness" mean (to you, that is)? IOW, do you just care that it doesn't fall apart if you look at it too hard, or if you expect it'll fall every now and then (mine has- never glass down on concrete, but it's my understanding we have Gorilla Glass so it's pretty durable), or ...? I only ask 'cause the aluminum back of your previous iDevice seems to be a selling point for you, but I'm sure some (like me) couldn't care less about it (esp. since I've put on an Incipio back cover on mine) as long as it doesn't break during normal usage.
But when you do buy a Xoom, you should consider unlocking it, then using a Custom ROM on it (I'm partial to the "Team EOS" ones, as I work on their kernels). It'll make your tablet better as they tend to use the latest releases from Google, have modified kernels and are far beyond what you'll get from the carrier (if that applies).
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No problem, then. But the question still remains- what does "solidness" mean (to you, that is)? IOW, do you just care that it doesn't fall apart if you look at it too hard, or if you expect it'll fall every now and then (mine has- never glass down on concrete, but it's my understanding we have Gorilla Glass so it's pretty durable), or ...? I only ask 'cause the aluminum back of your previous iDevice seems to be a selling point for you, but I'm sure some (like me) couldn't care less about it (esp. since I've put on an Incipio back cover on mine) as long as it doesn't break during normal usage.
But when you do buy a Xoom, you should consider unlocking it, then using a Custom ROM on it (I'm partial to the "Team EOS" ones, as I work on their kernels). It'll make your tablet better as they tend to use the latest releases from Google, have modified kernels and are far beyond what you'll get from the carrier (if that applies).
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So is the xoom worth buying for?? its my.first time to have a tablet??.. bcoz i waited for some good deals to come out? And here.it is at argos uk?? Reserve one at my local store for pick up thursday...wil i not be disappointed with my decision? ICS IS OUT IN THE US,FOR THE XOOM,,HOW ABOUT THE UK ...WHEN??;???BY THE WAY ITS THE WIFI ONLY AND 32GB MODEL THAT I RESERVED? THANKS....
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So is the xoom worth buying for? its my first time to have a tablet
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Nobody can answer that question except you- what do you want to use it for?
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No problem, then. But the question still remains- what does "solidness" mean (to you, that is)? IOW, do you just care that it doesn't fall apart if you look at it too hard, or if you expect it'll fall every now and then (mine has- never glass down on concrete, but it's my understanding we have Gorilla Glass so it's pretty durable), or ...? I only ask 'cause the aluminum back of your previous iDevice seems to be a selling point for you, but I'm sure some (like me) couldn't care less about it (esp. since I've put on an Incipio back cover on mine) as long as it doesn't break during normal usage.
But when you do buy a Xoom, you should consider unlocking it, then using a Custom ROM on it (I'm partial to the "Team EOS" ones, as I work on their kernels). It'll make your tablet better as they tend to use the latest releases from Google, have modified kernels and are far beyond what you'll get from the carrier (if that applies).
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Oh I get what you were asking now. I didn't understand at first.
After using the Tablet S I miss the weight and heft of my original iPad. The aluminium backing of the iPad I supposed helped in giving the tablet a solid premium feel to it. The Tablet S (while being well designed) seems too insubstantial and lightweight. Plus the use of plastic over all the body doesn't chime with me. It feels hollow when you press the screen. Some people might love it because its lighter but to me its a turn off. It feels too much like a toy.
I'm looking forward to getting that substantial feel back with the Xoom
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So is the xoom worth buying for?? its my.first time to have a tablet??.. bcoz i waited for some good deals to come out? And here.it is at argos uk?? Reserve one at my local store for pick up thursday...wil i not be disappointed with my decision? ICS IS OUT IN THE US,FOR THE XOOM,,HOW ABOUT THE UK ...WHEN??;???BY THE WAY ITS THE WIFI ONLY AND 32GB MODEL THAT I RESERVED? THANKS....
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From what I have read it looks like its one of the top Android tablets.
I'm getting it from Argos too this Firday. I ordered it last night for store pickup.
Please update this thread and tell me your impressions when you get it
I'm in same boat except I get mine delivered on Weds. I was pondering whether to get the Samsung tab 7.0 Plus which is 234 quid from Expansys (EU version). I'm a bit worried about the screen, there's conflicting reviews on its quality in terms of viewing angles and contrast levels.
Me too. I have read positive and negative opinions about the Xoom screen.
One of the positives for the Tablet S is that the screen is a nice IPS screen.
Not sure how I'm going to cope after being spoilt by the SGS's AMOLED display.
But yeah, it's confusing how some review sites claim it has good contrast ratio and viewing angles but there are others which state complete opposite?!?
I've just been looking at the Xoom 2 but with no ICS and no way to put custom roms on it I think I'll pass. The screen does look nice though
This review says the Xoom screen is amazing
This one says the contrast ratio is sub standard. I know that there will be variation in measurement but 750:1 and 2000:1 is a huge difference. So who's got the real readings?
It's a matter of personal taste.
I don't think you understand, the Contrast ratio should be a fairly stable constant no matter who measures it (obviously different techniques yield different results) but the above two quoted websites are opposite ends of the scale; from being amazing to below average...
Hello everyone. Right now I have an Acer Iconia A100 7" tablet. I really want a 10" tablet but dont have a lot that I can spend for one. Ive been looking at the Xoom for a little while now since I can find them around the $200 range if Im lucky. The question is, with the Nexus 10 out now, is it still worth it to get a Xoom or would it be better to hold out a few months and save for a Nexus 10?
And if it helps, I would be using the tablet for a little of everything. Internet, music, movies, games and a lot of reading (mostly comics).
I greatly appreciate any info that can be provided.
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Hello everyone. Right now I have an Acer Iconia A100 7" tablet. I really want a 10" tablet but dont have a lot that I can spend for one. Ive been looking at the Xoom for a little while now since I can find them around the $200 range if Im lucky. The question is, with the Nexus 10 out now, is it still worth it to get a Xoom or would it be better to hold out a few months and save for a Nexus 10?
And if it helps, I would be using the tablet for a little of everything. Internet, music, movies, games and a lot of reading (mostly comics).
I greatly appreciate any info that can be provided.
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Well, kinda depends on your needs. Xoom is and has always been a strong tablet, but at two years old, it is starting to show it's age.
Xoom is a versatile, solid, all around tablet, 32 gb with expandable storage, bluetooth, hdmi, and usb. It's weakness's mainly are the backlight, it's heft (for some) and it's age. 720p display, and about impossible to see outside during daylight(sunlight and overcast.) Tegra2 is a good processor but dated and unable to take advantage of all the benefits of newer games demanding the power of a quadcore like the tegra3 ( dead trigger.) Right now it is very minor things we are missing out on. Eventually there may be games we can't play at all. More than likely Jelly bean is the last official update the xoom will get. I can't speak for the developers. If you don't care about latest and greatest, but need something fully functional and good bang for the buck...... xoom is a definite option
Nexus 10 has a great display, true 1080p, and the A15 cortex dual core processor destroys the tegra3 quad core in comparison tests from what I have read. It is the closest any tablet has come to being what the xoom was two years ago. The deal breaker for me is no expandable storage.
Hope this helps
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Thanks for the great info Draxin. You have me some things to think about. I can do without the 1080p and thinking about it I'm not sure that running the newest and greatest games matters. On the other hand viewing outside is kind of a big deal.
Decisions decisions.
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Draxin said:
Well, kinda depends on your needs. Xoom is and has always been a strong tablet, but at two years old, it is starting to show it's age.
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Lol, sorry Drex - showing its age? La La La La ... not listening. (covering ears) Any device is relative to it's users needs. Newer is not always better. Bigger, faster, lighter most likely (in some aspects, other areas maybe not). Does it really suit my needs? Probably not. The next best thing, will be replaced by the next best thing the following year. Vicious cycle my friend. Marketing is evil and we consumers are its puppets They can always count on that buyer that must have the newest whatever. We are making these guy rich lol.
Happy New Year! Xoom Xoom-
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Lol, sorry Drex - showing its age? La La La La ... not listening. (covering ears) Any device is relative to it's users needs. Newer is not always better. Bigger, faster, lighter most likely (in some aspects, other areas maybe not). Does it really suit my needs? Probably not. The next best thing, will be replaced by the next best thing the following year. Vicious cycle my friend. Marketing is evil and we consumers are its puppets They can always count on that buyer that must have the newest whatever. We are making these guy rich lol.
Happy New Year! Xoom Xoom-
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True. But Johnny Danger isnt looking to sell off a xoom, he wants to know if it is a viable option still in the 10 inch market. So he needs to ask himself what he wants from his new tablet before purchasing. Xoom is a fantastic tablet and easily one of the best purchases I have made, but I made my purchase almost a year ago when it was still running honeycomb stock and developers were porting ICS. I Got to watch it make leaps and bounds in functionality, smoothness, and reaching for the limits of it's potential. Now developers are facing the limitations of the space in the system partition for OS. And it sounds like they can't scrape any extra space from the internal sd or make some available on the ext. sd cause it is locked. So if Johnny Danger wants a solid, hard working tablet that can do anything he wants to do now, and should be able to do most(if not all) tasks in the future, the xoom is a perfect fit, he just needs to be aware that what we have now may be close to as good as he will get over the next two years of ownership(not saying it is bad), just saying don't expect much more from Motorola.
If he wants the latest and greatest games at their full potential, see movies in full resolution get OTA's of newer OS's and have a tablet equipped to get the most out of anything coming down the pike in the next two years, he needs to save up and get the nexus 10, conveniently priced at around the same range the xoom was when it first came out
If you asked 3-4 months ago, well yes.. But now there is no reason to buy a 2 years old device (and was out AOSP) with price ~$300.
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So if Johnny Danger wants a solid, hard working tablet that can do anything he wants to do now, and should be able to do most(if not all) tasks in the future, the xoom is a perfect fit, he just needs to be aware that what we have now may be close to as good as he will get over the next two years of ownership(not saying it is bad), just saying don't expect much more from Motorola.
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True, I fully understand the question. Basically the gist was yes it is still worth getting if it suits his needs no argument.
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If you asked 3-4 months ago, well yes.. But now there is no reason to buy a 2 years old device (and was out AOSP) with price ~$300.
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AOSP or AOKP depends on which ROM chosen. (rooted)
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If you asked 3-4 months ago, well yes.. But now there is no reason to buy a 2 years old device (and was out AOSP) with price ~$300.
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I'm fully happy with xoom and this will be long relationship. I had in my hands asus transformer but truelly i cant see any limitations or u want gaming on it - but its not for it.
Well I went ahead and got a xoom. I bought a used one on Craigslist and feel that I got a good deal. I got 32gb xoom, original box and charger, official Motorola xoom cover, and 2 screen protectors for $150.
I absolutely love it. Everything runs great, including the games I play. My son was watching YouTube videos on it and sometimes it hiccups but that doesn't bother me. The thing that really took me by surprise is the battery life. It lasts so long on a charge. Now I understand why people were so upset with the Acer iconia tab a100 battery life. This is one of the fewer purchases I have no regrets about. Just a fantastic tablet.
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Well I went ahead and got a xoom. I bought a used one on Craigslist and feel that I got a good deal. I got 32gb xoom, original box and charger, official Motorola xoom cover, and 2 screen protectors for $150.
I absolutely love it. Everything runs great, including the games I play. My son was watching YouTube videos on it and sometimes it hiccups but that doesn't bother me. The thing that really took me by surprise is the battery life. It lasts so long on a charge. Now I understand why people were so upset with the Acer iconia tab a100 battery life. This is one of the fewer purchases I have no regrets about. Just a fantastic tablet.
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Good on ya! I really don't think you'll have any regrets, it's still a very speedy tablet and the build quality is unsurpassed.
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Good on ya! I really don't think you'll have any regrets, it's still a very speedy tablet and the build quality is unsurpassed.
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You are not lying about the build quality. This thing feels so well made its incredible.
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Lol, sorry Drex - showing its age? La La La La ... not listening. (covering ears) Any device is relative to it's users needs. Newer is not always better. Bigger, faster, lighter most likely (in some aspects, other areas maybe not). Does it really suit my needs? Probably not. The next best thing, will be replaced by the next best thing the following year. Vicious cycle my friend. Marketing is evil and we consumers are its puppets They can always count on that buyer that must have the newest whatever. We are making these guy rich lol.
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You're kidding yourself if you think it has anything to do with marketing. The Xoom has been showing its age for a while. Its great that devs continue to bring us the latest firmware but even they have acknowledge that the Xoom's limits are being pushed.
It is as you said, relative to needs, but I think its also good to think about the future. What will a 2 year old device be able to do a year from now? Two years from now?
I'd say save up honestly and hope for a sale on the N10 (tho it looks like the OP already invested v0v)
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Well I went ahead and got a xoom. I bought a used one on Craigslist and feel that I got a good deal. I got 32gb xoom, original box and charger, official Motorola xoom cover, and 2 screen protectors for $150.
I absolutely love it. Everything runs great, including the games I play. My son was watching YouTube videos on it and sometimes it hiccups but that doesn't bother me. The thing that really took me by surprise is the battery life. It lasts so long on a charge. Now I understand why people were so upset with the Acer iconia tab a100 battery life. This is one of the fewer purchases I have no regrets about. Just a fantastic tablet.
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I just made the same switch today I paid 50 more then you but my girl has n7 I did not want same thing so I just got this but I like it actually have not even rooted
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If you want buttery smooth android goodness, put eos 3 nightly # 155 on your xoom, johnny danger. You'll thank me later
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If you want buttery smooth android goodness, put eos 3 nightly # 155 on your xoom, johnny danger. You'll thank me later
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Thanks Alex, I will see about doing that.
@Cubanluke88, Im well aware that a 2 year old device is not going to be on par with the most recent devices, like the N10. But at this point it was a matter of me wanting a 10" tablet that would do what I needed it to do now. I may still get a N10 in a few months and just give my Xoom to one of my kids (I have three, two that are teens). But for right now, its working great and I couldnt be happier. Especially at the price I paid. I might be getting a new job soon and if I do, Im going to be taking a hour train ride to work and back and Im just happy to know that Im going to have a nice big tablet to provide entertainment on those train rides if I do get the job.
Xoom or Xoom II or Xoom II ME?
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Thanks Alex, I will see about doing that.
@Cubanluke88, Im well aware that a 2 year old device is not going to be on par with the most recent devices, like the N10. But at this point it was a matter of me wanting a 10" tablet that would do what I needed it to do now. I may still get a N10 in a few months and just give my Xoom to one of my kids (I have three, two that are teens). But for right now, its working great and I couldnt be happier. Especially at the price I paid. I might be getting a new job soon and if I do, Im going to be taking a hour train ride to work and back and Im just happy to know that Im going to have a nice big tablet to provide entertainment on those train rides if I do get the job.
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Like the OP I'm looking to get a reasonably priced tablet for Browsing, a little eReading and some video watching. It's hard enough to justify what is really a gadget purchase and I certainly can't justify the ~€500 price ranges of the top tablets. My target is around the €200 mark.
I like the look of the Nexus 7, but the small screen bothers me a little. I've a Sony Xperia S and 7 inches doesn't seem to give me enough of a boost over it's 4.3 inches to justify spending €250. So I'm looking at reputable brands which have been discounted (due to age or market forces) rather than the budget trinkets that you can get. I even considered a heavily discounted Playbook (~€170) but that's just too far out of the park in terms of OS, support, etc.
I can get a Xoom II (16 GB, WiFi) for about €280, but thats at the upper end of my target budget. I can get a Xoom (32 GB WiFi) (B-stock, new but damaged/opened packaging) for €200, and that has my attention. But I'm worried about the processor speed and the display. I could also get a new Xoom II ME (16 GB, WiFi) for about the same price, €200. Apart from the newer specs (a faster processor and better screen), the 8.2 inch format strikes me as possibly more portable (for use while commuting). WiFi only is also fine for me as when I'm not in a normal WiFi area I'll use my Xperia S as a hotspot.
So, given my budget limitations and the fact that it's probably for light browsing/reading use (some videos while on holidays perhaps), would the Xoom II ME or the older Xoom be the best bet? Is the new screen a worthwhile upgrade? Thoughts please?
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Update: Having read a bit more about portability and useability of the various sizes (7, 8 and 10) I'm leaning towards the Xoom 2 ME.
JohnnyDanger said:
Thanks for the great info Draxin. You have me some things to think about. I can do without the 1080p and thinking about it I'm not sure that running the newest and greatest games matters. On the other hand viewing outside is kind of a big deal.
Decisions decisions.
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Actually there are quite a few new screen prtectors that dont degrade the quality that allow you to still see your xoom in the sunlight
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Dyflinn said:
Like the OP I'm looking to get a reasonably priced tablet for Browsing, a little eReading and some video watching. It's hard enough to justify what is really a gadget purchase and I certainly can't justify the ~€500 price ranges of the top tablets. My target is around the €200 mark.
I like the look of the Nexus 7, but the small screen bothers me a little. I've a Sony Xperia S and 7 inches doesn't seem to give me enough of a boost over it's 4.3 inches to justify spending €250. So I'm looking at reputable brands which have been discounted (due to age or market forces) rather than the budget trinkets that you can get. I even considered a heavily discounted Playbook (~€170) but that's just too far out of the park in terms of OS, support, etc.
I can get a Xoom II (16 GB, WiFi) for about €280, but thats at the upper end of my target budget. I can get a Xoom (32 GB WiFi) (B-stock, new but damaged/opened packaging) for €200, and that has my attention. But I'm worried about the processor speed and the display. I could also get a new Xoom II ME (16 GB, WiFi) for about the same price, €200. Apart from the newer specs (a faster processor and better screen), the 8.2 inch format strikes me as possibly more portable (for use while commuting). WiFi only is also fine for me as when I'm not in a normal WiFi area I'll use my Xperia S as a hotspot.
So, given my budget limitations and the fact that it's probably for light browsing/reading use (some videos while on holidays perhaps), would the Xoom II ME or the older Xoom be the best bet? Is the new screen a worthwhile upgrade? Thoughts please?
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Update: Having read a bit more about portability and useability of the various sizes (7, 8 and 10) I'm leaning towards the Xoom 2 ME.
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Well, I finally plumped for the Xoom 2 ME. 8.2 inch screen, price (€200 vs €250) and mini HDMI clinched it over the Nexus 7, plus I really think that I don't need Quad Core nor will I do for a few years yet. Portability beat the Xoom or Xoom 2.
Only qualm is that I ordered it from Expansys as they had the best price (by about €25). For a mainstream seller it has far more negative reviews than it should have (they should really take their Facebook page offline). I did order via Amazon rather than directly, perhaps that adds a little more security to the order.
Hopefully I'll be one of the 89% positive buyers. :fingers-crossed:
Well, whatever Expansys is doing wrong for some, it was a pretty efficient transaction for me. Ordered it from Expansys via Amazon on Monday night and it was delivered (via a forwarding company from a UK address) by Wednesday night! Picked it up this morning.
I've only played with it a little and charged it up. Will do the ICS update when I get home as the work wifi is acting up. I was able to tether it to my Xperia S and so far it's looking nice, though the web browsing seemed a little jerky/laggy. Maybe ICS will improve that.
I have since noticed that my Xperia S actually has a faster CPU, more storage, a higher ppi, a better camera and will likely get Jelly Bean later in Q1. If only it had an 8 inch screen
About a month ago I noticed a story about an HP 7" tablet with decent specs, but it's low resolution screen and poor build quality made it weak competitor. So, I just found out that Walmart will be selling a Tegra 3 tablet with similar specs to the Nexus 7 for $150. The kicker is that it has a microSD slot, rear-facing camera AND HDMI out.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/23/hisense-sero-7-lt-pro-tablets/#continued
I was waiting for news about the follow-up to the Nexus 7, but with nothing on the horizon I'm tempted to check out one of these tablets. The ability to hook the tablet to my TV for gaming with a Bluetooth controller outweighs the fast Android updates. Especially it if manages to get some developer support.
For $99 I might have to check one out.
ED2O9 said:
About a month ago I noticed a story about an HP 7" tablet with decent specs, but it's low resolution screen and poor build quality made it weak competitor. So, I just found out that Walmart will be selling a Tegra 3 tablet with similar specs to the Nexus 7 for $150. The kicker is that it has a microSD slot, rear-facing camera AND HDMI out.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/23/hisense-sero-7-lt-pro-tablets/#continued
I was waiting for news about the follow-up to the Nexus 7, but with nothing on the horizon I'm tempted to check out one of these tablets. The ability to hook the tablet to my TV for gaming with a Bluetooth controller outweighs the fast Android updates. Especially it if manages to get some developer support.
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Just recently heard about this and I am extremely intrigued by this tablet (Hisense Sero Pro is the one for $150).. I was considering riding it out for a new Nexus 7, have been tablet-less for a bit now, but it was not a huge priority for me as it seems that chance has slowed down. Seeing this tablet and the specs, for such a great price, seems too good to be true in a way. I am hoping some people are going to get their hands on it over the next few days and hear some reviews. That price tag and those specs are tempting me :laugh:
Few custom ROMs and unknown update frequency.
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Just recently heard about this and I am extremely intrigued by this tablet (Hisense Sero Pro is the one for $150).. I was considering riding it out for a new Nexus 7, have been tablet-less for a bit now, but it was not a huge priority for me as it seems that chance has slowed down. Seeing this tablet and the specs, for such a great price, seems too good to be true in a way. I am hoping some people are going to get their hands on it over the next few days and hear some reviews. That price tag and those specs are tempting me :laugh:
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I too feel the temptation, however imagine how you would feel if everyone upgraded to the new Nexus 7 with a full HD screen and you were stuck with a $150 device that was on par with the N7 minus the giant user base. I think those looking to upgrade should hold on for now.
Sd card
Being able to use a TV doesn't do anything for me but having the card reader built in..
This is something Nexus will likely never have.
I think the 7 inch size is just about perfect.
Now if I just had a reason to go to Wal Mart...
If I did & could check out one of these out.. there could go next week's lunch money.
Although... the name "Hisense Sero Pro" doesn't sound nearly as awesome as the infamous Ainol Fire.
I just picked up the Pro for $150 beans but haven't opened it up yet. Wally gives you 15 days to return, so I'm gonna' see if the tab gets any XDA love. If it does, I'll still keep my N7 but give my Gtab 2 to my wife replacing an aging Nook Color.
I'm hoping that its similarity to N7 specs makes it easy to root and build roms. I don't even know if the bootloader is locked or not??? Hopefully, some people will start to buy it and we see some development feedback over the next few days. :laugh:
Looks like a pretty solid tab for the bucks and even if the current N7 comes down to about $150, if the Hisense gets any decent dev support, it will still be a good deal with the extra features that aren't available on the N7.
EDIT: In another thread, someone suggested giving motochopper a try for root. It looks like motochopper for the N7 doesn't unlock the bootloader, so you don't lose your data. But, who knows if it will work for the Hisense, maybe I'll give it a try if no other solutions materialize over the next few days. Stuff like this travels fast on the internet, so I'm optimistic.
Mike T
Looks like a very good tablet for the price, has good features would definitely pick one up if I get a chance. It would make a very good present for my girlfriend as she always wanted something like a nexus 7
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I just picked up the Pro for $150 beans but haven't opened it up yet. Wally gives you 15 days to return, so I'm gonna' see if the tab gets any XDA love. If it does, I'll still keep my N7 but give my Gtab 2 to my wife replacing an aging Nook Color.
I'm hoping that its similarity to N7 specs makes it easy to root and build roms. I don't even know if the bootloader in locked or not??? Hopefully, some people will start to buy it and we see some development feedback over the next few days. :laugh:
Looks like a pretty solid tab for the bucks and even if the current N7 comes down to about $150, if the Hisense gets any decent dev support, it will still be a good deal with the extra features that aren't available on the N7.
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I am having no luck thus far finding a place locally that I could buy it.. It seems the Wally site is not even showing an option to buy it online, though it is listed on the site. If you get the chance to open it up soon and try it out, PLEASE share your thoughts with us if you are able to.
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I am having no luck thus far finding a place locally that I could buy it.. It seems the Wally site is not even showing an option to buy it online, though it is listed on the site. If you get the chance to open it up soon and try it out, PLEASE share your thoughts with us if you are able to.
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As mentioned, I'm probably gonna' hold off on opening it for at least a few days. It looks like for the time being, Wally only has it available in-store. Maybe, they're waiting for more allocation from Hisense before they make it avail online. I guess I'm fortunate that I have 2 fairly large Walmart stores within a few miles of each other. Hopefully, you'll find one soon.
If you haven't already seen this, here's another XDA thread you can follow. I'm sure over the next few days, we'll see more people buying them, therefore, more info and hopefully...ROOT! :good:
EDIT: Sorry, forgot the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284022
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Local Walmarts have them. BUT. They keep them "in the back" for some reason and had none on display. Be persistent and it might help to take along a model number and UPC. Crazy good deal so far.
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Local Walmarts have them. BUT. They keep them "in the back" for some reason and had none on display. Be persistent and it might help to take along a model number and UPC. Crazy good deal so far.
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As I mentioned in a previous post, my local Walmart had them in display cases with other tabs. I guess as usual, YMMV.
Also. forum member tharien has already managed to gain root. Those that are interested, check out link below and please click the thanks button for him. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41803251&postcount=37
EDIT: Root and CWM recovery have been achieved!
Mike T
Nothing but the Nexus brand for me for as long as I'm with Android. Never used the HDMI on my Iconia and I only used the back camera like 5 times in 2 years. Though I think I'd get this to replace my mother's aging Nook Color. No need to spend extra money on shipping for something that she wouldn't notice.
As someone mentioned earlier - having the SD card is something that a Nexus device is extremely unlikely to ever have, so if there's at least root, I'm probably in for this one.
I'm testing an AT&T Galaxy S 4 right now (coming from my Nexus 4....) and it's a work device, so I can't root. I've actually been impressed with things I'm able to do nowadays without needing root. The only things I'm hating is the notification drawer garbage and ability to use custom lockscreen shortcuts like I have on CM10.1. Other than that, I've been able to do everything I need to get it to look pretty much like my Nexus 4 does. Oh, and being unable to remove the AT&T and Samsung crapware are a pain, too.
I bit the bullet and picked one (the PRO) up today sight unseen.
Holy Crap.
It's a SOLID build, feels good, LOOKS GOOD. Pretty much Pure Google. It does have a Sams and Walmart app on it (which can be EASILY uninstalled). stuck in a 64gb card and.. wow. Oh, incase you wonder, the extra button on the screen... screen shot button.
This is a winner. Just need to find a case for it (It's a TINY bit wider and longer than the N7)
Box UPC
In case anyone else is having trouble with their local walmart looking this up, the actual UPC on the box is: 854098003418
The "Walmart Product Code" (551515189) from Walmart.com came up in their scanner at my local store, sort of, but didn't actually tell if they had any inventory or not. The clerk was nice enough to unlock and check the cases without me needing to ask. They had 4 BTW, 3 now, in Coralville, IA.
This one was in the case, right next to the Nexus 7's and 10's (irony thy name is WalMart) about 15 of the LT and 8 or 9 PRO. Now anyone know of a case that will fit?
Additional irony, stack of Nexus 7 chargers (hi power ones, with usb cable) clearance out at $10.
Just checked it and YouTube it. Looks very nice and all. Nice specs and price (Pro one). I would buy the Pro one if I didn't already have my Nexus 7. With that HDMI, I'll be killing hard in DeadZone on my big led tv. Ty and bookmarked.
Anyone know if this will be sold in Canada? I don't think they are selling it here, at least not yet.
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Just pre-ordered mine! Finally for our phones.
From my understanding, our variant does not yet have the correct minimum version for Gear VR. I pre-ordered it through Amazon along with a controller but am hoping Verizon is able to push out the necessary update in time of me getting my Gear. This is my first phone back on Verizon in like 15 years, and from what I have seen, I should not hope much for getting it in time.
Yep. Freaking Verizon. Always last to the show when it comes to updates. This thing goes live in only 3 days and I'm not positive I'll be able to even use it when it arrives here on the 20th. I am so sick of this company, their ****ty OTA schedules, and their god awful locked-phone policies. Once my contract is up, I'm jumping ship. I don't care how good the signal is, it does me no good if I can't even use my phone properly.
Guys we already have the needed updates. They came with the last OTA. When you connect the VR for the first time it will automatically install the Oculus app store. Check your installed packages and you'll see 3 Samsung vr apps.
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Guys we already have the needed updates. They came with the last OTA. When you connect the VR for the first time it will automatically install the Oculus app store. Check your installed packages and you'll see 3 Samsung vr apps.
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I found this out too. I used the app QuickShortcutMaker to run the VR setup process as if I had a Gear VR and was able to install the Oculus store and download all the games and apps ahead of time! I recommend doing the same thing so you don't need to wait to get everything once you actually get the HMD.
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Yep. Freaking Verizon. Always last to the show when it comes to updates.
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You know the required update was pushed some time ago? While I don't like Verizon's update schedule either, this is one of the cases where they did it right...
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If this thing is supposed to be available today, does anyone know where it can be gotten? I preordered from Amazon, but it hasn't shipped, and frankly, whoever can get it to me the quickest, wins.
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If this thing is supposed to be available today, does anyone know where it can be gotten? I preordered from Amazon, but it hasn't shipped, and frankly, whoever can get it to me the quickest, wins.
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Try walking in to your local Best Buy?
I know it's only available in 3 places. Amazon, Best Buy, and something stupid like Macy's or something (I can't remember exactly). Unless I'm getting it confused with the Gear S2. Good luck.
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If this thing is supposed to be available today, does anyone know where it can be gotten? I preordered from Amazon, but it hasn't shipped, and frankly, whoever can get it to me the quickest, wins.
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Try walking in to your local Best Buy?
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Yeah, though I know I can't rely on BestBuy's website to tell me if it's in stock, it does indicate that it's not at a store within 250 miles of me. I called the store, but we all know you can't count on the $7.25/hr staff to have any clue what's being asked about, and they could be heard clicking away on their own website. They told me "they'd have em when Samsung decides to send em"....yeah, because Samsung ships directly to each store. ...right. I should ask my 70yr old mother to swing by the store. Even if Bestbuy has em in stock, somehow I'd end up with a PS4, or a washing machine, or something else that's not what I asked her to look for. -moms<tech
I had the VR for the Note 4, and very seldom used it. I'm really excited to get the new one, so I can stick it in the closet and forget about it.
Mine is backorder from Samsung wtf
Anybody find which store this is available locally? I see all over the Internet news that is is now available but where??????
My local best buy in San Antonio had 1 yesterday. I didn't buy it though.
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Try tmobile website...search gear vr and order it now....ordered my early this morning....they are in stock for now there
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"Innovator Edition" actually meant "premium"?
I had the Gear VR "Innovator Edition" for the Note 4, so I was glad to see that they were releasing one for the Note 5. The reason for calling the previous model an Innovator Edition was to my understanding, a way of saying that it was a device for early-adopters of tech, and that I should expect faults, short comings, and areas upon which improvement is needed. But, most everything about the VR for the Note 4 was in my opinion, awesome. The packaging was elegant, and the padded zippered carrying case made for a nice protected place to store the VR. The VR itself may have been a slight bit uncomfortable at times, but I accepted that as something to be improved upon.
I got the new one in from Amazon yesterday, and I've gotta say, this non-Innovator Edition is a really cheap presentation compared to it's predecessor. Admittedly less less expensive, but I really liked having a nice case to keep the VR in when not in use. I am also not a huge fan of the new directional touch pad. I find it more difficult to navigate, having to slide my finger through a carved channel instead of a smooth swipe acting. I spend more time trying to figure out how to position my hands. Meh, perhaps it's in an effort to get someone to buy a generic gamepad (still waiting on Samsung to make one), which is prob better anyway. I don't notice much of a change in the design or components that change the ways the previous model was a bit uncomfortable to wear after time, but perhaps that will be in the next release when the VR comes unassembled in a brown paper bag, but only costs $50. (i'd buy it)
In the end, I guess it's still an incredible value for as awesome as the VR experience is, and since I switched to the Note 5 when it was released, a significant amount more content has become available. -Just my 2 cents.
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I had the Gear VR "Innovator Edition" for the Note 4, so I was glad to see that they were releasing one for the Note 5. The reason for calling the previous model an Innovator Edition was to my understanding, a way of saying that it was a device for early-adopters of tech, and that I should expect faults, short comings, and areas upon which improvement is needed. But, most everything about the VR for the Note 4 was in my opinion, awesome. The packaging was elegant, and the padded zippered carrying case made for a nice protected place to store the VR. The VR itself may have been a slight bit uncomfortable at times, but I accepted that as something to be improved upon.
I got the new one in from Amazon yesterday, and I've gotta say, this non-Innovator Edition is a really cheap presentation compared to it's predecessor. Admittedly less less expensive, but I really liked having a nice case to keep the VR in when not in use. I am also not a huge fan of the new directional touch pad. I find it more difficult to navigate, having to slide my finger through a carved channel instead of a smooth swipe acting. I spend more time trying to figure out how to position my hands. Meh, perhaps it's in an effort to get someone to buy a generic gamepad (still waiting on Samsung to make one), which is prob better anyway. I don't notice much of a change in the design or components that change the ways the previous model was a bit uncomfortable to wear after time, but perhaps that will be in the next release when the VR comes unassembled in a brown paper bag, but only costs $50. (i'd buy it)
In the end, I guess it's still an incredible value for as awesome as the VR experience is, and since I switched to the Note 5 when it was released, a significant amount more content has become available. -Just my 2 cents.
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So basically you're saying their isn't any significant improvements between this model and the innovator edition? Makes me wonder what took them so long to release it then. I'm just going to buy a $20 set from amazon. I'm guessing it'll be the same experience.
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So basically you're saying their isn't any significant improvements between this model and the innovator edition? Makes me wonder what took them so long to release it then. I'm just going to buy a $20 set from amazon. I'm guessing it'll be the same experience.
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To be fair, there have been "changes", but not much that I'd call improvements. For $100, I'd still say it's got way more going for it the cheaper attempts to imitate it. Just like the VR predecessor , it's got a directional touchpad, volume control, back button, internal gyros/sensors to absorb some of the processing burden from the phone. Anyone that's used the Gear VR and compared it to the Google Cardboard/etc will tell you that the VR is hands down better. The feeling I get, is that Samsung tried to cut as many corners as possible to compete with those $20 Google cardboard "devices".
***The new one is also a single device that will work for the Note5, Galaxy S6 edge+, Galaxy S6, and Galaxy S6 edge. One thing I will say is a simple, yet vast improvement, is the addition of a pass-through charging port on the bottom of it. (It looks slightly less stupid to onlookers than having a QI charging pad strapped to the back of a Note 4 on your face)
got mine @ amazon. .but it's out of stock. .says they will bill me when it's available. .guess just wait
Still sold out everywhere.
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I ordered mine back on the 18th and it was out of stock then. But it looks like they are coming out in batches since mine will arrive later today. I also found out that you can temporarily disable one of the VR services and use it with Cardboard apps as well.
My tmobile Gear VR got delivered today...thankfully
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