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I was really excited when I heard the rumours about the nexus S along with 2.3.
Now it's been released I am extremely disappointed. It is no different from the Samsung galaxy S, which in my opinion was not a good device to start with, with it's cheap plastic design, lag problems and GPS issues etc. They even dropped the SD card slot which was the final nail in the coffin for me. Didnt implement hspa+ and dropped the bluetooth 3.0.
So for now i'll be sticking to my HTC desire with a custom 2.3 rom when it becomes available.
I suppose 2.3 comes with some welcomed features but we will have to wait till honeycomb to see the full UI update i guess.
What are your thoughts? Will the nexus S be your next device?
Let me know what you think.

I don't know but HTC is also full of problems too, i hope people realize that HTC uses cheap crap into their phones, the nexus one's awful touch screen, tiny speakers, dust under the screen, power button problems. I don't understand why people praise HTC so much i mean their warranty isn't stellar, having to send your phone for 3 weeks isn't very appealing.
Galaxy S to start with is already a better phone than the nexus one, the GPS works and everything works in the vibrant.
Your comment seems like from just another misinformed user.

dhiral.v said:
What are your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that people who complain about Google not releasing the phone of their dreams have missed the point of the Nexus S

I think:
No SD card= no problem, It's a phone after all guys, if you need music I would get an iPod, I use Pandora or groove shark anyways...I can't even fill my 8Gb card as it is!
Plastic Build= This is not a problem for me either because it's googles phone, i bet it will feel solid after all and I like the classy black gloss look so im biased anyways...
No HSPA+ = I don;t think many people are actually getting up to the 7mb anyways, but in the near future I think T mobile will be updating it to a whopping 21Mb so this is a bit upsetting but I only get edge at my house anyways so I'm okay with this too
This is the ONLY fully supported GOOGLE PHONE as of now remember. The nexus one is slowly dying
That's why I will have mine on the 16th!

Not sure why so many people complain about the Galaxy S line of phones. I have the Fascinate and I am not getting lag, the plastic case is plenty durable, my GPS also works fine.

tekkitan said:
Not sure why so many people complain about the Galaxy S line of phones. I have the Fascinate and I am not getting lag, the plastic case is plenty durable, my GPS also works fine.
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EXACTLY i held a fascinate and it felt so solid! I just don't understand it....and HSPA+? You can still get up to 7.2 MB, but that isn't good enough? I mean that flies on my Nexus one already! I dont need any more speed.

I think you should read the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867112

Why, I think Google ****ed up.....having Best Buy Launch it

irishrally said:
I think you should read the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867112
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Love it
It's amazing to me how Google could come out with "the best android phone to date" (Endgadget's verdict) and yet people still complain

slowz3r said:
Why, I think Google ****ed up.....having Best Buy Launch it
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would you have perferred WalMart?
lets keep it real, GOOGLE missed on the N1 because you couldnt walk into a national retailer, touch it, feel it, try it.
Best Buy Mobile is one of the best places to get a smartphone if not the best, they certainly have the most and best prices. rebates anyone? any retailer is going to have idiots who dont know what theyre talking about...trust me it would be worst in a WalMart, Shack, or Target for example.

greenstuffs said:
I don't know but HTC is also full of problems too, i hope people realize that HTC uses cheap crap into their phones, the nexus one's awful touch screen, tiny speakers, dust under the screen, power button problems. I don't understand why people praise HTC so much i mean their warranty isn't stellar, having to send your phone for 3 weeks isn't very appealing.
Galaxy S to start with is already a better phone than the nexus one, the GPS works and everything works in the vibrant.
Your comment seems like from just another misinformed user.
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I'm not praising HTC at all. I don't agree that HTC uses cheap crap in their phones. HTC's design and build quality is one of the best in the industry. I do agree no phone is perfect, Some HTC's do have problems like the lack of a good quality speaker and the multi-touch issues on the N1. However the new HTC line up looks promising such as the G2/desire z and desire HD etc.
When I was playing on my friends galaxy S I did notice the lag issue and GPS problems. To me the actual build quality seemed cheap. However I will say, great processor and internal hardware, with that gorgeous AMOLED screen. That's just my experience of the device.
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My thoughts are that people who complain about Google not releasing the phone of their dreams have missed the point of the Nexus S
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I think you might be missing the point I am trying to make.
I wasn't expecting the phone of my dreams, far from it. My point is that the specs are almost identical to that of the galaxy S. With exception to the NFC and gyro of course.
The reason why expandable memory is a deal breaker for me, amongst other things, is the fact they are removing a feature, I know for some people this will be fine, but it reminds me of the iphone and how apple removes basic features, in their closed system.
The nexus S could have been great, but it was rushed for release just for the Christmas season.
Above all that here in the UK its going to cost a whopping £550 on launch day!
I think the nexus S will be fine for most, but there's nothing revolutionary about it.

The last I heard about a "revolutionary" phone was from steve job's mouth. Just sayin. I don't think google is saying this is a revolutionary device. Nexus named phone just means its Google's baby.
Some people just have too much expectation.
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I don't agree on making a general comment like HTC rocks and Samsung sucks or vice versa.In gadgets world, you have to take each product and review it as it is. About build quality , I have a cheap Samsung slide phone and it has been taking some awful falls for a while, on hard floors and streets and although it's fully made of plastic, it amazed me how it's still holding up with just scratches and it's performing just like the first day I got it. There is no one device that can fit all people, everyone has something to look for in his phone. For me, NS fits me the most now. You might have some other specifications that you are looking for too, so this might not be your phone.

Couple of key points for me...
Not realy '****ed' up per se, just dropped the ball on a couple of points:
NO HSPA+= No purchase for me, my next phone has to have it (currently with HD2)
No HD video recording. WTF!? I'm sure someone will unleash it in a custom ROM or hack, but off the bat, just plain doopid!
I was almost there until I found out those 2 points. I'd rather get a MyTouch 4G.
Cyph

google probably said "screw u htc for trying to make it harder to root"
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Madcypher said:
NO HSPA+= No purchase for me, my next phone has to have it (currently with HD2)
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What do you think you're going to do with speeds above 7mbps?

No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.

j.bruha said:
What do you think you're going to do with speeds above 7mbps?
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ever heard of tethering?

donniestarko said:
No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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Ever heard of trolling?

donniestarko said:
No 4G, No HD Video, No SD Slot. These are staples in current cell phones. Is it that hard for google to put in a phone? NO PURCHASE.
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My point exactly, why remove features??? And wasn't the fact that android phones have expandable storage, differentiated it from the iphone...

coming from galaxy s 2

So i bought a Samsung phone which isn't that bad until i started finding out the faults! The problems that i came a cross were the fact gps was poor and so was the network, yet apart from that the phone is not that bad. nevertheless I am going to get a replaced for a sensation so is that good or a bad idea?
ps i had a HTC hd 2 before

You posted in a Sensation forum.Of course we are going to say its a great idea lol

manish2039 said:
So i bought a Samsung phone which isn't that bad until i started finding out the faults! The problems that i came a cross were the fact gps was poor and so was the network, yet apart from that the phone is not that bad. nevertheless I am going to get a replaced for a sensation so is that good or a bad idea?
ps i had a HTC hd 2 before
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its a terrible idea you have the greatest phone on planet earth and you wanna give it up?

tigerz0202 said:
its a terrible idea you have the greatest phone on planet earth and you wanna give it up?
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I wouldn't go that far calling it the greatest lol. But he has a point they are good phones. If your network is poor it night be the carrier itself. At least SGS2 is quadband 3G/UMTS/HSPA

None of us can speak for the things that matter to you. The things that make us love the device might not matter to you. Try it and decide for yourself.
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its all personal preference. i would say that even though i have the sensation, i would rather have the SG2 because it seems like its more faster and the whole touchiwiz 4 looks clean. im not saying that sense 3.0 isnt clean and isnt fast, i actually love it, but in the end its all personal preference and its up for you to decide. i suggest you try messing around with the sensation before you switch

Even though i myself am a Sensation owner, i can tell ya the SGSII, despite the lower res and the tad inexpensive build quality/looks, it's still a lot better phone.
Probably your carrier. However if u still wanna go with the Sensation.. then by all means; it is after all your call at the end of the day.

saffant said:
the tad inexpensive build quality
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"tad" is putting it lightly, IMO (as someone who owned a SGS2 for several hours today before deciding that I would return it before it got scratched and otherwise damaged. Samsung is all about the numbers game, rather than the overall user experience. They don't care if the phone feels fragile if they can claim it is the lightest. They don't care if it is uncomfortable to hold if they can say it's thinner than an iPhone 4 (they do this with the Tab 10.1 as well but it's not uncomfortable thankfully).
While the SGS2 screen is stunning to behold (even in strong sunlight) coming from someone who has hated all previous AMOLED screens because of how terrible the pentile grid arrangement made them look, It's a cheap, poorly designed phone. Great specs, very fast, etc
On the other hand, you have the Sensation which isn't perfect, but feels smaller in the hand, due to the curved back and the fact that it has a narrower but taller display, has a great looking, higher res screen, and has build quality that leaves one not wanting or needing a case for the phone.
If you have the SGS2 right now and are considering the Sensation, some of the stuff I mentioned is probably bothering you like it did me. I know how it feels to have people look at you like you're crazy for wanting to swap the SGS2 for the Sensation, since that's what I tried doing at Bell Canada today

If you plan on using and relying on WiFi, it's a terrible idea. The Sensation has the worst WiFi of any android phone I've used.

I think you will find out that it's the same experience in the end. There is a number of problems on Sensation aswell ...

thanks for the replies appreciated
i think i'll give this phone another week and then see if it has changed my mind or not.

manish2039 said:
So i bought a Samsung phone which isn't that bad until i started finding out the faults! The problems that i came a cross were the fact gps was poor and so was the network, yet apart from that the phone is not that bad. nevertheless I am going to get a replaced for a sensation so is that good or a bad idea?
ps i had a HTC hd 2 before
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How can you blame the SGS2 for poor network,dosen't make sense to me but I honestly think SGS2 is the better option to sensation with regards to two things
1) Countless custom Roms already which solve a lot of problems
2) Easily flashing of the latest Firmwares via ODIN regardless of whether you want to root or not
I am already using the 2.3.4 although its not official released and its great
At the end of the day its our choice Both phones have their pros and cons but for me the (easy firmware upgrade) was the DEAL BReAKEr

I would put a facepalm pic but thats no help.
Just stay with gs2, best phone eva. Sure it has better build quality but that always hidden with the case you put on it. In fact, putting a beautiful case on the sgs2 will not add much bulk at all and still have the best hardware.

Bsketball said:
If you plan on using and relying on WiFi, it's a terrible idea. The Sensation has the worst WiFi of any android phone I've used.
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YMMV. I ran Speedtest on my Sensation with wifi this morning and got over 26Mb down. I get better signal strength around my place than I did with my Vibrant. Some people report bad wifi on the SGS2. Just saying don't take every post as the last word.

Just because the Galaxy S line is made of super light plastic, doesn't mean its fragile and breaks easily. Samsung uses the material on purpose to make the phone light. They are probably just assuming that just because phones are getting bigger doesn't mean they need to get heavier. I actually know for a fact that Samsung puts a lot of research into the plastic material they use on there Galaxy S line. Weather its made of aluminum, plastic or rubber, its still feels solid while feeling light. I haven't seen anyone with a GSII complaining of a creaky battery cover like they are on the Sensation. I can't vouch for the GSII when it comes to holding up to damage over time but what I can vouch for is the Vibrant. That thing felt cheaply built as well since it was so damn light but I can assure you. It was probably the toughest Android device I've ever owned. I dropped it multiple times and the most it ever got was scratches to the chrome bezel that went around the phone. I took house keys to its display to show off its Gorilla glass to friends and the display remained in mint condition. Finally, that phone made it through over 50 house fires in which it got wet and was banged around. In case you don't know, you usually come out of a fire dripping from head to toe with water since there is thousands of gallons of it being thrown around. I always kept the phone my work shirt pocket so it was never in a case. That phone withstood water damage and "gravity" damage and still kept on ticking. That's more than I can sat about my Nexus One which only lasted through 2 or 3 fires. It ended up getting water underneath its display.
What I'm trying to get at is just because a phone is light and made of plastic, doesn't mean its cheaply made.
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ditch that and get a nokia 5110. its way better

jrwingate6 said:
What I'm trying to get at is just because a phone is light and made of plastic, doesn't mean its cheaply made.
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But it does mean that the vast majority of people will be using a case to prevent scratches/damage, negating a lot of their time and energy spent making it thin/light.
It just kills me there's so many "phone X is better than phone Y" threads on me, and they actually think that it's black and white like that.
I hate cases. I want to see beautiful design, not beautiful design wrapped in some silicon skin. Personal opinion of course. I also like docks (blame Palm's amazing touchstone for that). Blame the Atrix for turning me on to good vehicle docks (not that I ever drive, but when I do). I also like high res screens a lot. Oh and soft touch and metal. And silky smooth, curved glass.
Plenty of people don't care. They want the fastest processor, the most ram, a big battery, and a big screen, and nothing else matters. They'll slap it in a case anyway, so build quality doesn't matter a ton. Maybe they don't even care about scratches. The SGS2 is very, very nice. Millions of people are currently loving theirs. I tried. It's not for me. Damn that screen is so beautiful though, I miss it.

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But it does mean that the vast majority of people will be using a case to prevent scratches/damage, negating a lot of their time and energy spent making it thin/light.
It just kills me there's so many "phone X is better than phone Y" threads on me, and they actually think that it's black and white like that.
I hate cases. I want to see beautiful design, not beautiful design wrapped in some silicon skin. Personal opinion of course. I also like docks (blame Palm's amazing touchstone for that). Blame the Atrix for turning me on to good vehicle docks (not that I ever drive, but when I do). I also like high res screens a lot. Oh and soft touch and metal. And silky smooth, curved glass.
Plenty of people don't care. They want the fastest processor, the most ram, a big battery, and a big screen, and nothing else matters. They'll slap it in a case anyway, so build quality doesn't matter a ton. Maybe they don't even care about scratches. The SGS2 is very, very nice. Millions of people are currently loving theirs. I tried. It's not for me. Damn that screen is so beautiful though, I miss it.
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I don't like cases or screen protectors and I rarely ever use them. That's the thing. My Vibrant did not scratch as easy as one might think. I don't think if someone adds a case to a phone that's thin and light negates the time and energy it took to get there. Its comment sense. The light the phone is, the lighter its going to be with a case on it. Just because you add a case, doesn't mean it becomes as heavy as every other phone with a case on it. Or does it? Samsung uses plastic because a WiFi frequency and cell signal can pass through it easier than aluminum or metal. We have seen deathgrip issues time and time again with phones that are built with metals.
Lastly, if you like soft touch and silky smooth curved glass then the G2X impliments those two things perfectly. The rubbery back plate and the beveled glass that curves down feels awesome. The glass us also smoother than what the Sensation has. I also like how LG beveled the G2X glass. It goes down instead of up so your fingers just glide right off the display when swiping. Its a much better implimentation than HTC's beveled glass which curves up. To bad the G2X can't run a full day without rebooting though.
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Anyone here have a tablet?

I'm considering getting a new/first tablet. However, I'm not quite sure which one I want to get. I'm curious if anyone here has an android tablet or is getting considering one. If you do have one, what is it and how do you like it?
I'm looking at everything but currently the tablets I'm eyeing the most are:
- Transformer Prime: Sounds like a beast. I do worry it will be a bit expensive and I'm not sure when it will make its way to Canada. I'm also not sure I really even need that kind of power for what I want to do on a tablet.
- Motorola Xoom: Has similar specs to pretty much every other tablet on the market right now. It also will probably be the tablet with the most dev support for quite a while I imagine (until a "nexus" tablet comes out). +it's price point shouldn't be too bad at this point and it's scheduled for ICS update
- Xoom 2: Kind of like the design of this (even if the specs are only a small update to the Xoom). Problem is I have no idea if this will come to the states, let alone Canada anytime soon. Also seems kinda "blurified".
- Sony Tablet S: Available in Canada, but not sure how good of a price I can get on this (compared to the Xoom which has near-identical specs). I really like the design and am a big fan of Sony products in general.
Any tablets you guys eyeing or own?

Tablets are just as particular as phones. When you got your XT, I bet you thought it was the top of the heap. I did. Then I found out about all its little issues and problems, but also about the really good things it has. No way I could have known then. From what I can gather, tabs are the same thing. I have seen Galaxy tabs rocking it, but then in some people's signatures on XDA I see "Nook running CM7". In the states you can get a Nook for pretty cheep, easy to root and then put a stable CM7 on it a go with it.
Now RAM and memory are something I don't know anything about. Not even sure how much small RAM would be like our meager 256 on the XT. I actually would be interested in knowing that. With our current locked bootloader situation, I would stay away from the Xoom, even though I think there is a leak. I will never buy a Motorola again b/c of their user policies. I see the Bionic and actually laugh to myself b/c I already know it will be a locked bootloader (but the average person will think it is the best phone ever made. You know that most people don't even know what XDA, root or evena custom ROM is?).
Personally, my wife and I have talked about it and really don't understand the attraction to tabs. If you have a tab running CM7, with flash, email, skype,...it is extremely similar to just having a bigger screened phone. One caveat is that HP discontinued their global personal computer operations (now they are exclusive to technical management solutions- or some crap like that). But suspending their personal computer options does have one benefit for you and me. Their tabs dropped from $699us to $99/139us, but everyone with an online credit card picked one up a few months ago. Bestbuy just sent back all 250,000 they had in stock, so you might be able to still pick one up on the cheap (not android os though).
And finally, Rev is in one of my G+ circles and he posts a fair amount of tablet info, so you might want to PM him and find out his thoughts.
p.s. he changed his avatar from a priest to RevTV with an android. Sorry for the long reply but I have been looking at these for some time now.

Woodrube said:
With our current locked bootloader situation, I would stay away from the Xoom, even though I think there is a leak
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Actually, although it pains me to say this, the Xoom is a Google developer device and can be easily unlocked by users (i.e. it's like the OG Droid). I think you're thinking of the leaked Atrix unlock. I would assume Xoom 2 is probably wearing a chastity belt until proven deflowered.

Woodrube said:
When you got your XT, I bet you thought it was the top of the heap. I did.
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Nope. I got mine quite a bit after it came out. I didn't really understand the RAM issues and other issues it had though... (was still pretty new to Android).
I would stay away from the Xoom, even though I think there is a leak.
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It has unlockable/relockable bootloader and most likely the biggest developer community of any tablet atm and for a while (it's like a nexus phone I'd say).
Personally, my wife and I have talked about it and really don't understand the attraction to tabs.
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I actually felt much the same way until recently. I do have uses for a tablet, though I've been thinking of the "it's a bigger screened phone" bit as well. There are certain things that I want to do that I can't do on the smaller screen of my phone (i.e. productivity stuff such as writing down lecture notes and working on essays, video chatting on a larger screen etc...). But some of the functionality on the tab is definitely duplicated by a phone. That's why I really love concepts such as the Padfone... (but that's not coming out for quite a while I believe...). I don't really love the idea of having both tablet and phone (superfluos in some ways), but I want something that combines the functionality of both...
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My brother has the Asus Transformer and its a beast!! He has had it since day one and everytime I go over there I got to get my sticky lil fingers all over it. He bought the keyboard dock to which makes it twice as good + the full HDMI mirroring makes it awesome. Its also unlockable. He's running one of the newest prime roms with the o/c and there's no waiting for anything. Theres a pretty big dev comunity for it. Plus it has the ips display, which is the same as ipad. If I were you tho I'd wait for the quad cores.... then by a dual core, they will be way cheaper then.(hopefully) :/ lol who needs more than 2 cores in a tablet anyway.
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I bought the Acer A500 when Walmart has them for $299 ($399 but you get a $100 gift card free), but my biased opinion says it is a bit on the big/bulky side. I felt that 10" is not very easy to handle given my small Asian hands. It is also not the lightest, and when I am reading in the bed my arm would get tired from just holding it up. Nonetheless even the Xoom or Galaxy Tab isn't that much lighter so I think maybe it's just me nick-picking.
Long story short I returned it but am very interested in the new 8.9" tab... That may be my sweet-spot on size. Same resolution screen, smaller/lighter to handle, but I will need to see how it's battery life fares.
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I read a great review on Android Police about the Galaxy tab 8.9 and they said battery life was awesome. They hated on the touch wiz ui tho. They said it made everyday tasks sluggish.
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easye420 said:
I read a great review on Android Police about the Galaxy tab 8.9 and they said battery life was awesome. They hated on the touch wiz ui tho. They said it made everyday tasks sluggish.
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Well, that's good to hear! I was secretly hoping the smaller screen will mean less battery drain (since I believe the 8.9's battery rating was lower). Regarding the UI... I can always wait for a custom ROM to show up here at some point! I just started playing with MIUI for my XT720 and I love it wwaaaaay better than any of the other UI I've used before. Gotta love the development community on Android!!
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Hello i have an hannspree SN10T1 it s a 10,1 inch Tablet with an Dualcore Tegra2 Chip and the best think it cost only 169 Euro and its perfect.
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[Q] Xoom Advice?

Hello Xoom owners!
I am considering joining your crowd, and unfortunately, I cannot get in with the Staples deal. Would you mind answering a few questions for me ?
1) How is ICS official release shaping up for you, any nagging issues or lost functionality?
2) I've found a used Xoom (wifi, ics) at the same price (~$330) as a new Transformer TF101. There are dozens of comparisons, I know, but I can't get over the fact that the local B&M's seem to have more than a few open box asus returns due to issues. That being said should I consider getting the xoom at this point?
3) Have any of you experienced any long-term reliability issues? I've searched and searched, and it seems somewhat few and far-between. Big things I am after is stand-alone GPS performance, and screen with minimal light-bleed.
4) Forget xoom completely, and wait? But for what?
Many Thanks

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1) How is ICS official release shaping up for you, any nagging issues or lost functionality?
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So, one of the big perks with the Motorola Xoom is it's easily unlocked bootloader. This gives you the obvious advantage of NOT having to run the stock software. If just running stock is more what you're into, I would look at other options in the field, personally.
Current ICS based roms, however, have fleshed out very nicely for our device. There doesn't appear to be any lost functionality or issues and I've been quite happy since I started flashing them. Speed seems as good, if not better and my fantastic battery life just keeps getting better.
2) I've found a used Xoom (wifi, ics) at the same price (~$330) as a new Transformer TF101. There are dozens of comparisons, I know, but I can't get over the fact that the local B&M's seem to have more than a few open box asus returns due to issues. That being said should I consider getting the xoom at this point?
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Can't say I'm crazy about the Transformer, but that's just me. The only real selling point it has over the Xoom, as far as I can see, is the ability to attach the keyboard. Personally, if that's something I really needed, I would have looked into an Apple Air (or a beefy netbook).
3) Have any of you experienced any long-term reliability issues? I've searched and searched, and it seems somewhat few and far-between. Big things I am after is stand-alone GPS performance, and screen with minimal light-bleed.
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Long term, no. I was a day-one 3g model adopter and some of those fresh off the assembly line models had some questionable build issues. Mine, for example, would made this odd creaking noise if you applied any pressure to the left side of the screen and the seam between the speakers/camera and the component cover was a little squishy if I were to press it the right way.
So I took mine back to Verizon and my replacement was flawless That is, until I dropped it in the fountain the atrium at work while trying to avoid hitting some kids running around, and the thing stopped working. Thankfully, Verizon sorta had my back and we hopped on a call with Motorola and the Verizon CSR more or less strong armed Motorola into giving me a free replacement.
4) Forget xoom completely, and wait? But for what?
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I can't say what to wait for, but you are looking at picking up a device that has been discontinued. It has, in my experience, great performance and I don't personally plan to replace mine for at LEAST another year or more. If you're OK with that, you'll be getting a lot of tablet for the $300 mark, even if it's not the top of the line model.
My guess is the Xoom will still be a solid option for another 12-18 months for those who don't need to have the super-duper top of the line everything. Sure, there will be a few games that will work better on new hardware, but the core of what you would use a tablet for would likely not benefit from newer models in that time frame.

^ Thank you, that is what I wanted to hear.
I don't see much value in the latest and greatest thus far, and though it feels like I am overpaying at this point (considering other member deals), I do feel the reliability and community support is there.

And the stand-alone GPS is fantastic.

I am looking to get into this tablet as well any tips I should know before buying ???(I have a hook up at staples getting the display )
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dislplin01 said:
I am looking to get into this tablet as well any tips I should know before buying ???
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Like I said above, the biggest think to remember is that you would be buying a device that has been discontinued. So in very short order, it will be extremely hard to find chargers, docks, cases, etc as most places will have liquidated their inventory. My tip would be to make sure you buy anything you even think you may want for this thing when you buy it.

The only thing that I don't like in the Xoom is the screen which has some ghosting effect with some colors.
Compared to my Galaxy S2 screen it has a lot less quality, but at least it doesn't hurt eyes of you use it for a long time (amoled screens seem more tiring to me).
Materials are very good, it is very solid and ICS is amazing.
If you have ever seen a tablet with Honeycomb... forget about that! Ice Cream Sandwich is a lot faster, smother and stable.
Asus Transformer has a better screen (as far as I know, I have never seen it) but worse materials.
And not only it has not official ICS. It doesn't even have a decent ICS custom ROM.

If you are lucky to get Xoom for a good price it's awesome, ICS feels so smooth

One thing about the Transformer 1 is that the screen is better except for a huge amount of light bleeding. I returned mine for that reason and got the Xoom. Very happy with it.
Consider the Samsung Galaxy or the Transformer Prime. I got the Prime and its good, quad core, thin and a very good screen with no light bleed. Best buy here has them in stock.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium

[Q] Acer Liquid Glow E330

Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has the Acer Liquid Glow E330? I can't really find much info on here threadwise and there doesn't seem to be a specific section for it (maybe mods could add one).
I bought mine about a month ago and its not bad, but it could be better. Anyone else have any opinion on this phone?

s34nyb0 said:
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has the Acer Liquid Glow E330? I can't really find much info on here threadwise and there doesn't seem to be a specific section for it (maybe mods could add one).
I bought mine about a month ago and its not bad, but it could be better. Anyone else have any opinion on this phone?
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I looking at getting one myself - it looks to be a well specified ICS phone at a reasonable price
I'm worried though that there is very little mention of it online. Most "reviews" date back to February when it was annonced and don't really tell you much. I'm also worried that when I go looking for cases to protect it, I can't find anything (other than generic slip cases, etc).
I'd be very interested in what you have to say about it in the areas of general usability, quality of construction, calls, battery life, stability - all the stuff you only get from people who actually own and use the phone! Oh, and if you found a case supplier, I'd be keen to hear about that too!

arabbitte said:
I looking at getting one myself - it looks to be a well specified ICS phone at a reasonable price
I'm worried though that there is very little mention of it online. Most "reviews" date back to February when it was annonced and don't really tell you much. I'm also worried that when I go looking for cases to protect it, I can't find anything (other than generic slip cases, etc).
I'd be very interested in what you have to say about it in the areas of general usability, quality of construction, calls, battery life, stability - all the stuff you only get from people who actually own and use the phone! Oh, and if you found a case supplier, I'd be keen to hear about that too!
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Oh hey, i got a liquid glow and from using for 3 weeks it is a really good phone.
For protection cases theres nothing except those pull tab things you find on ebay. ( i ordered one)
the only problem i have with it is the wifi, but that may be because of my router and well its not a well known phone.
As you said the reviews date back to when it was announced and acer already announced a new line of phones so I am not sure if this phone is ever gonna be known to a big public out there....
But in a nutshell: Good phone 4 low price... but keep in mind that it is still a low end phone so sometimes it gets laggy because you're running too many apps, just close them.
bye

and probably acer stop support & upgrade it very quickly
phone: sgs2 GT-I9100
kernel : dorimanx 5.79beta
main rom: rr 2.7
second rom: cm 9.1
baseband: I9100XXLQ6

Thanks for the replies.
It's a bit curious that there is so little online about these phones. They appear to offer a decent spec for a reasonable price. For me, its ICS, screen resolution, SDHC expansion and replacable battery are the key selling points - I don't think there is any competition at that price. The Expansys website has the phone no. 6 in its popularity stakes (Whatever that means: http://www.expansys.com/acer-liquid-glow-cats-eye-black-234412/); I suppose it suggests they are at least selling some.
Not seeing any cases for it on EBay tends to scare me though - and confirm the thoughts of the poster above that it will have little support :crying: Will we see Jellybean for example? Acer appear to be promoting the Android-rivalling Aliyun operating system in other markets and this doesn't fill me with confidence regarding their commitment into the future.
So, it looks like anyone buying the phone should do so in the knowledge that they will be unsupported in terms of accessories and future updates. Still a tempting spec as-is though

arabbitte said:
Thanks for the replies.
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So, it looks like anyone buying the phone should do so in the knowledge that they will be unsupported in terms of accessories and future updates. Still a tempting spec as-is though
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I got the phone and that what you say about cases is not true, I baught one for only 3 eur. and fits perfectly..
Still hoping for a cm9 or miui port. but untill then, very happy with vache glowing liquid rom :laugh:

Where do You find a case? Can You give me a link?
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tafazzi87 said:
Where do You find a case? Can You give me a link?
Inviato dal mio Nexus 7 con Tapatalk 2
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Sure, I got the leather pulltab, very easy to use and decent quality imo.
w w w .benl.ebay.be/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=liquid+glow&_sacat=See-All-Categories
replace spaces with dots please still a newbie here
If link dont work just search for liquid glow and everything will show up.

moh2336 said:
Oh hey, i got a liquid glow and from using for 3 weeks it is a really good phone.
For protection cases theres nothing except those pull tab things you find on ebay. ( i ordered one)
the only problem i have with it is the wifi, but that may be because of my router and well its not a well known phone.
As you said the reviews date back to when it was announced and acer already announced a new line of phones so I am not sure if this phone is ever gonna be known to a big public out there....
But in a nutshell: Good phone 4 low price... but keep in mind that it is still a low end phone so sometimes it gets laggy because you're running too many apps, just close them.
bye
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Hi there,
do you still have issues with wifi? I have them all the time, and Acer doesn't help here... for the rest a great phone.
Bye