Hello everyone. Right now I have an Acer Iconia A100 7" tablet. I really want a 10" tablet but dont have a lot that I can spend for one. Ive been looking at the Xoom for a little while now since I can find them around the $200 range if Im lucky. The question is, with the Nexus 10 out now, is it still worth it to get a Xoom or would it be better to hold out a few months and save for a Nexus 10?
And if it helps, I would be using the tablet for a little of everything. Internet, music, movies, games and a lot of reading (mostly comics).
I greatly appreciate any info that can be provided.
JohnnyDanger said:
Hello everyone. Right now I have an Acer Iconia A100 7" tablet. I really want a 10" tablet but dont have a lot that I can spend for one. Ive been looking at the Xoom for a little while now since I can find them around the $200 range if Im lucky. The question is, with the Nexus 10 out now, is it still worth it to get a Xoom or would it be better to hold out a few months and save for a Nexus 10?
And if it helps, I would be using the tablet for a little of everything. Internet, music, movies, games and a lot of reading (mostly comics).
I greatly appreciate any info that can be provided.
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Well, kinda depends on your needs. Xoom is and has always been a strong tablet, but at two years old, it is starting to show it's age.
Xoom is a versatile, solid, all around tablet, 32 gb with expandable storage, bluetooth, hdmi, and usb. It's weakness's mainly are the backlight, it's heft (for some) and it's age. 720p display, and about impossible to see outside during daylight(sunlight and overcast.) Tegra2 is a good processor but dated and unable to take advantage of all the benefits of newer games demanding the power of a quadcore like the tegra3 ( dead trigger.) Right now it is very minor things we are missing out on. Eventually there may be games we can't play at all. More than likely Jelly bean is the last official update the xoom will get. I can't speak for the developers. If you don't care about latest and greatest, but need something fully functional and good bang for the buck...... xoom is a definite option
Nexus 10 has a great display, true 1080p, and the A15 cortex dual core processor destroys the tegra3 quad core in comparison tests from what I have read. It is the closest any tablet has come to being what the xoom was two years ago. The deal breaker for me is no expandable storage.
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Thanks for the great info Draxin. You have me some things to think about. I can do without the 1080p and thinking about it I'm not sure that running the newest and greatest games matters. On the other hand viewing outside is kind of a big deal.
Decisions decisions.
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Draxin said:
Well, kinda depends on your needs. Xoom is and has always been a strong tablet, but at two years old, it is starting to show it's age.
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Lol, sorry Drex - showing its age? La La La La ... not listening. (covering ears) Any device is relative to it's users needs. Newer is not always better. Bigger, faster, lighter most likely (in some aspects, other areas maybe not). Does it really suit my needs? Probably not. The next best thing, will be replaced by the next best thing the following year. Vicious cycle my friend. Marketing is evil and we consumers are its puppets They can always count on that buyer that must have the newest whatever. We are making these guy rich lol.
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Lol, sorry Drex - showing its age? La La La La ... not listening. (covering ears) Any device is relative to it's users needs. Newer is not always better. Bigger, faster, lighter most likely (in some aspects, other areas maybe not). Does it really suit my needs? Probably not. The next best thing, will be replaced by the next best thing the following year. Vicious cycle my friend. Marketing is evil and we consumers are its puppets They can always count on that buyer that must have the newest whatever. We are making these guy rich lol.
Happy New Year! Xoom Xoom-
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True. But Johnny Danger isnt looking to sell off a xoom, he wants to know if it is a viable option still in the 10 inch market. So he needs to ask himself what he wants from his new tablet before purchasing. Xoom is a fantastic tablet and easily one of the best purchases I have made, but I made my purchase almost a year ago when it was still running honeycomb stock and developers were porting ICS. I Got to watch it make leaps and bounds in functionality, smoothness, and reaching for the limits of it's potential. Now developers are facing the limitations of the space in the system partition for OS. And it sounds like they can't scrape any extra space from the internal sd or make some available on the ext. sd cause it is locked. So if Johnny Danger wants a solid, hard working tablet that can do anything he wants to do now, and should be able to do most(if not all) tasks in the future, the xoom is a perfect fit, he just needs to be aware that what we have now may be close to as good as he will get over the next two years of ownership(not saying it is bad), just saying don't expect much more from Motorola.
If he wants the latest and greatest games at their full potential, see movies in full resolution get OTA's of newer OS's and have a tablet equipped to get the most out of anything coming down the pike in the next two years, he needs to save up and get the nexus 10, conveniently priced at around the same range the xoom was when it first came out
If you asked 3-4 months ago, well yes.. But now there is no reason to buy a 2 years old device (and was out AOSP) with price ~$300.
Draxin said:
So if Johnny Danger wants a solid, hard working tablet that can do anything he wants to do now, and should be able to do most(if not all) tasks in the future, the xoom is a perfect fit, he just needs to be aware that what we have now may be close to as good as he will get over the next two years of ownership(not saying it is bad), just saying don't expect much more from Motorola.
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True, I fully understand the question. Basically the gist was yes it is still worth getting if it suits his needs no argument.
Nhan Lam said:
If you asked 3-4 months ago, well yes.. But now there is no reason to buy a 2 years old device (and was out AOSP) with price ~$300.
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Nhan Lam said:
If you asked 3-4 months ago, well yes.. But now there is no reason to buy a 2 years old device (and was out AOSP) with price ~$300.
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I'm fully happy with xoom and this will be long relationship. I had in my hands asus transformer but truelly i cant see any limitations or u want gaming on it - but its not for it.
Well I went ahead and got a xoom. I bought a used one on Craigslist and feel that I got a good deal. I got 32gb xoom, original box and charger, official Motorola xoom cover, and 2 screen protectors for $150.
I absolutely love it. Everything runs great, including the games I play. My son was watching YouTube videos on it and sometimes it hiccups but that doesn't bother me. The thing that really took me by surprise is the battery life. It lasts so long on a charge. Now I understand why people were so upset with the Acer iconia tab a100 battery life. This is one of the fewer purchases I have no regrets about. Just a fantastic tablet.
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JohnnyDanger said:
Well I went ahead and got a xoom. I bought a used one on Craigslist and feel that I got a good deal. I got 32gb xoom, original box and charger, official Motorola xoom cover, and 2 screen protectors for $150.
I absolutely love it. Everything runs great, including the games I play. My son was watching YouTube videos on it and sometimes it hiccups but that doesn't bother me. The thing that really took me by surprise is the battery life. It lasts so long on a charge. Now I understand why people were so upset with the Acer iconia tab a100 battery life. This is one of the fewer purchases I have no regrets about. Just a fantastic tablet.
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Good on ya! I really don't think you'll have any regrets, it's still a very speedy tablet and the build quality is unsurpassed.
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Good on ya! I really don't think you'll have any regrets, it's still a very speedy tablet and the build quality is unsurpassed.
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You are not lying about the build quality. This thing feels so well made its incredible.
Mjamocha said:
Lol, sorry Drex - showing its age? La La La La ... not listening. (covering ears) Any device is relative to it's users needs. Newer is not always better. Bigger, faster, lighter most likely (in some aspects, other areas maybe not). Does it really suit my needs? Probably not. The next best thing, will be replaced by the next best thing the following year. Vicious cycle my friend. Marketing is evil and we consumers are its puppets They can always count on that buyer that must have the newest whatever. We are making these guy rich lol.
Happy New Year! Xoom Xoom-
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You're kidding yourself if you think it has anything to do with marketing. The Xoom has been showing its age for a while. Its great that devs continue to bring us the latest firmware but even they have acknowledge that the Xoom's limits are being pushed.
It is as you said, relative to needs, but I think its also good to think about the future. What will a 2 year old device be able to do a year from now? Two years from now?
I'd say save up honestly and hope for a sale on the N10 (tho it looks like the OP already invested v0v)
JohnnyDanger said:
Well I went ahead and got a xoom. I bought a used one on Craigslist and feel that I got a good deal. I got 32gb xoom, original box and charger, official Motorola xoom cover, and 2 screen protectors for $150.
I absolutely love it. Everything runs great, including the games I play. My son was watching YouTube videos on it and sometimes it hiccups but that doesn't bother me. The thing that really took me by surprise is the battery life. It lasts so long on a charge. Now I understand why people were so upset with the Acer iconia tab a100 battery life. This is one of the fewer purchases I have no regrets about. Just a fantastic tablet.
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I just made the same switch today I paid 50 more then you but my girl has n7 I did not want same thing so I just got this but I like it actually have not even rooted
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If you want buttery smooth android goodness, put eos 3 nightly # 155 on your xoom, johnny danger. You'll thank me later
alex94kumar said:
If you want buttery smooth android goodness, put eos 3 nightly # 155 on your xoom, johnny danger. You'll thank me later
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Thanks Alex, I will see about doing that.
@Cubanluke88, Im well aware that a 2 year old device is not going to be on par with the most recent devices, like the N10. But at this point it was a matter of me wanting a 10" tablet that would do what I needed it to do now. I may still get a N10 in a few months and just give my Xoom to one of my kids (I have three, two that are teens). But for right now, its working great and I couldnt be happier. Especially at the price I paid. I might be getting a new job soon and if I do, Im going to be taking a hour train ride to work and back and Im just happy to know that Im going to have a nice big tablet to provide entertainment on those train rides if I do get the job.
Xoom or Xoom II or Xoom II ME?
JohnnyDanger said:
Thanks Alex, I will see about doing that.
@Cubanluke88, Im well aware that a 2 year old device is not going to be on par with the most recent devices, like the N10. But at this point it was a matter of me wanting a 10" tablet that would do what I needed it to do now. I may still get a N10 in a few months and just give my Xoom to one of my kids (I have three, two that are teens). But for right now, its working great and I couldnt be happier. Especially at the price I paid. I might be getting a new job soon and if I do, Im going to be taking a hour train ride to work and back and Im just happy to know that Im going to have a nice big tablet to provide entertainment on those train rides if I do get the job.
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Like the OP I'm looking to get a reasonably priced tablet for Browsing, a little eReading and some video watching. It's hard enough to justify what is really a gadget purchase and I certainly can't justify the ~€500 price ranges of the top tablets. My target is around the €200 mark.
I like the look of the Nexus 7, but the small screen bothers me a little. I've a Sony Xperia S and 7 inches doesn't seem to give me enough of a boost over it's 4.3 inches to justify spending €250. So I'm looking at reputable brands which have been discounted (due to age or market forces) rather than the budget trinkets that you can get. I even considered a heavily discounted Playbook (~€170) but that's just too far out of the park in terms of OS, support, etc.
I can get a Xoom II (16 GB, WiFi) for about €280, but thats at the upper end of my target budget. I can get a Xoom (32 GB WiFi) (B-stock, new but damaged/opened packaging) for €200, and that has my attention. But I'm worried about the processor speed and the display. I could also get a new Xoom II ME (16 GB, WiFi) for about the same price, €200. Apart from the newer specs (a faster processor and better screen), the 8.2 inch format strikes me as possibly more portable (for use while commuting). WiFi only is also fine for me as when I'm not in a normal WiFi area I'll use my Xperia S as a hotspot.
So, given my budget limitations and the fact that it's probably for light browsing/reading use (some videos while on holidays perhaps), would the Xoom II ME or the older Xoom be the best bet? Is the new screen a worthwhile upgrade? Thoughts please?
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Update: Having read a bit more about portability and useability of the various sizes (7, 8 and 10) I'm leaning towards the Xoom 2 ME.
JohnnyDanger said:
Thanks for the great info Draxin. You have me some things to think about. I can do without the 1080p and thinking about it I'm not sure that running the newest and greatest games matters. On the other hand viewing outside is kind of a big deal.
Decisions decisions.
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Actually there are quite a few new screen prtectors that dont degrade the quality that allow you to still see your xoom in the sunlight
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Dyflinn said:
Like the OP I'm looking to get a reasonably priced tablet for Browsing, a little eReading and some video watching. It's hard enough to justify what is really a gadget purchase and I certainly can't justify the ~€500 price ranges of the top tablets. My target is around the €200 mark.
I like the look of the Nexus 7, but the small screen bothers me a little. I've a Sony Xperia S and 7 inches doesn't seem to give me enough of a boost over it's 4.3 inches to justify spending €250. So I'm looking at reputable brands which have been discounted (due to age or market forces) rather than the budget trinkets that you can get. I even considered a heavily discounted Playbook (~€170) but that's just too far out of the park in terms of OS, support, etc.
I can get a Xoom II (16 GB, WiFi) for about €280, but thats at the upper end of my target budget. I can get a Xoom (32 GB WiFi) (B-stock, new but damaged/opened packaging) for €200, and that has my attention. But I'm worried about the processor speed and the display. I could also get a new Xoom II ME (16 GB, WiFi) for about the same price, €200. Apart from the newer specs (a faster processor and better screen), the 8.2 inch format strikes me as possibly more portable (for use while commuting). WiFi only is also fine for me as when I'm not in a normal WiFi area I'll use my Xperia S as a hotspot.
So, given my budget limitations and the fact that it's probably for light browsing/reading use (some videos while on holidays perhaps), would the Xoom II ME or the older Xoom be the best bet? Is the new screen a worthwhile upgrade? Thoughts please?
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Update: Having read a bit more about portability and useability of the various sizes (7, 8 and 10) I'm leaning towards the Xoom 2 ME.
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Well, I finally plumped for the Xoom 2 ME. 8.2 inch screen, price (€200 vs €250) and mini HDMI clinched it over the Nexus 7, plus I really think that I don't need Quad Core nor will I do for a few years yet. Portability beat the Xoom or Xoom 2.
Only qualm is that I ordered it from Expansys as they had the best price (by about €25). For a mainstream seller it has far more negative reviews than it should have (they should really take their Facebook page offline). I did order via Amazon rather than directly, perhaps that adds a little more security to the order.
Hopefully I'll be one of the 89% positive buyers. :fingers-crossed:
Well, whatever Expansys is doing wrong for some, it was a pretty efficient transaction for me. Ordered it from Expansys via Amazon on Monday night and it was delivered (via a forwarding company from a UK address) by Wednesday night! Picked it up this morning.
I've only played with it a little and charged it up. Will do the ICS update when I get home as the work wifi is acting up. I was able to tether it to my Xperia S and so far it's looking nice, though the web browsing seemed a little jerky/laggy. Maybe ICS will improve that.
I have since noticed that my Xperia S actually has a faster CPU, more storage, a higher ppi, a better camera and will likely get Jelly Bean later in Q1. If only it had an 8 inch screen
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So I loved my Gtab but I just couldn't stand the screen . I tried so many times to look past it and a couple times to actually replace it. I ended up picking up the xoom on a contract from vzw. I wanted to thank roebeet, rothnic, gojimi and everyone else that made the tablet useable. NOW DITCH THE GTAB AND START DEVELOPING FOR THE XOOM! LOL
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see ya........
kpowr82 said:
So I loved my Gtab but I just couldn't stand the screen . I tried so many times to look past it and a couple times to actually replace it. I ended up picking up the xoom on a contract from vzw. I wanted to thank roebeet, rothnic, gojimi and everyone else that made the tablet useable. NOW DITCH THE GTAB AND START DEVELOPING FOR THE XOOM! LOL
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First you're going to need to get that SD card slot working...
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Bought the xoom on release day, returned it yesterday. I could not justify the expense of over 1000 between the 599 price tag and 2 year Verizon data plan. Tablet looked great, love honeycomb but the rest seemed rushed. No flash,SD card and I would have to send it in for up to a week for 4g, something I could replace myself in 15 min.
I will keep my g tablet and if honeycomb becomes available then even better. In all honestly the xoom really made me appreciate my ipad even more.
kpowr82 said:
So I loved my Gtab but I just couldn't stand the screen . I tried so many times to look past it and a couple times to actually replace it. I ended up picking up the xoom on a contract from vzw. I wanted to thank roebeet, rothnic, gojimi and everyone else that made the tablet useable. NOW DITCH THE GTAB AND START DEVELOPING FOR THE XOOM! LOL
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What was it about the Gtab screen that drove you so nuts? Did you need to do a lot of viewing at angles?
Kayak83 said:
First you're going to need to get that SD card slot working...
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So true, but being a 'Google experience' device I don't think I'll be waiting long.
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weissbach said:
thank you
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For leaving? My pleasure!
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dolphinc said:
Bought the xoom on release day, returned it yesterday. I could not justify the expense of over 1000 between the 599 price tag and 2 year Verizon data plan. Tablet looked great, love honeycomb but the rest seemed rushed. No flash,SD card and I would have to send it in for up to a week for 4g, something I could replace myself in 15 min.
I will keep my g tablet and if honeycomb becomes available then even better. In all honestly the xoom really made me appreciate my ipad even more.
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I played with it at Best Buys. Loved the build quality, hated the price. I walked away content with my g-tablet. 400 more than the gtab is insane. I was almost out the woods until I got home, checked out xda, and saw Motorola had made the mistake of posting coupon code applicable to the xoom for 20% off. 600 seemed more reasonable. I hurried to order but unfortunately was too late. They shut it down.
*shakes angry fist at robeet for being lucky enough to squeeze in his order*
I'm still debating on the Xoom, but keeping the GTAB regardless
I mentioned in the Xoom forum that I jumped on the $600 deal in the Moto store, back on Thursday. Allegedly it should ship tomorrow (that's assuming that they don't cancel the order -I'm still not convinced that they won't).
Even if it ships, I haven't decided yet if I'll keep it or re-sell it. It's a nice device, but even at $600 it's got issues right now like the microSD slot. But I'm not getting rid of my GTAB, regardless - it's staying put. I got a great deal on it, plus I've really beaten it up over the months.
Sooner or later we'll have a HC port and the device, I think. If not the Xoom, then whatever harmony-based device happens to get it ported. I think it will happen, eventually.
EDIT: I just read cjackxiii's post, after I posted mine. If it happens to ship and I re-sell it, I'll post it here first before fleaBay. I'm still mulling it over - I went over to Best Buy again to look it over, but it's hard to look at things like specific apps that way.
Waiting for the full system dump from your Zoom.
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it would be up for about an hour before the cease and desist emails from Moto showed up.
Even at the pricing error of $600 Xoom is not worth the premium. At $800 it's a joke. G-Tab is $343 right now at 6th ave.
the Xoom is super, but
I miss my Gtab. Wednesday night what I thought was my bullet proof Gtablet had an encounter with my floor. It was short fall from my lap as I had fallen asleep on my couch with the tab in my lap, it slide down a blanket helping reduce the impact.
The Gtab landed display face down. It really was a minor hit, causing me great surprise to see that it would not boot. After investigating further I found it is booting the display is all white.I assume the display is gone.
So, I decide on ordering a Xoom. The xoom is fantastic, the display is sharp and crisp with great color, large viewing angle. better in every way than the in house Ipad. I compared the two under an 8X Loupe the Xoom has much better Acutance and color saturation than the Ipad. Blazing fast, really a great unit, but I miss my Gtab the screen didn't really bother me. Side by side with the Xoom really does show how bad the display is. I still want her back.
Bottom line I hope to replace or repair my Gtab, I will keep the Xoom for work. The Gtab is my toy. Thanks to the great developers on this forum, I have enjoyed that tablet for hours in the evening the last updates had her running sweet. If we are fortunate enough to get HC ported by the guys here it will only be that much better.
Yes the Xoom is a much better unit, given the price it should be. Is it 2 times better no, but that extra 10% to 20% seems to come with a substantial premium with technology and automobiles. The gtab is still the bargain king in my opinion. Looking forward to have a working gtab soon.
To the OP if your going to ditch that gtab shoot me a pm with a price
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So I loved my Gtab but I just couldn't stand the screen . I tried so many times to look past it and a couple times to actually replace it. I ended up picking up the xoom on a contract from vzw. I wanted to thank roebeet, rothnic, gojimi and everyone else that made the tablet useable. NOW DITCH THE GTAB AND START DEVELOPING FOR THE XOOM! LOL
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I'm curious, how are you planing on using the Xoom? I use my Gtab as a remote desktop interface for my office computer. I spend most of my time running from office to office and never get back to my own where I have the network authority to do my job. It has been a real time saver - once VPN encryption was shoehorned back into the kernel (thank you again Clemsyn). Other than this one function, I really do not have a use for a tablet.
Xoom's pricing wouldn't be so bad if they can just get their Wifi only version out! I jumped on the Moto coupon deal but it was too late.
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Even at the pricing error of $600 Xoom is not worth the premium. At $800 it's a joke. G-Tab is $343 right now at 6th ave.
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The hardware is definitely a step above the gtab, especially with the camera's, and the screen if you put that at about 125$, and about 100$ for the GPS, and 3G/4G your at just about 600$. I would probably jump at the deal but cant justify another 10 in tab unless it is an unbelievable deal.
I'm considering getting a new/first tablet. However, I'm not quite sure which one I want to get. I'm curious if anyone here has an android tablet or is getting considering one. If you do have one, what is it and how do you like it?
I'm looking at everything but currently the tablets I'm eyeing the most are:
- Transformer Prime: Sounds like a beast. I do worry it will be a bit expensive and I'm not sure when it will make its way to Canada. I'm also not sure I really even need that kind of power for what I want to do on a tablet.
- Motorola Xoom: Has similar specs to pretty much every other tablet on the market right now. It also will probably be the tablet with the most dev support for quite a while I imagine (until a "nexus" tablet comes out). +it's price point shouldn't be too bad at this point and it's scheduled for ICS update
- Xoom 2: Kind of like the design of this (even if the specs are only a small update to the Xoom). Problem is I have no idea if this will come to the states, let alone Canada anytime soon. Also seems kinda "blurified".
- Sony Tablet S: Available in Canada, but not sure how good of a price I can get on this (compared to the Xoom which has near-identical specs). I really like the design and am a big fan of Sony products in general.
Any tablets you guys eyeing or own?
Tablets are just as particular as phones. When you got your XT, I bet you thought it was the top of the heap. I did. Then I found out about all its little issues and problems, but also about the really good things it has. No way I could have known then. From what I can gather, tabs are the same thing. I have seen Galaxy tabs rocking it, but then in some people's signatures on XDA I see "Nook running CM7". In the states you can get a Nook for pretty cheep, easy to root and then put a stable CM7 on it a go with it.
Now RAM and memory are something I don't know anything about. Not even sure how much small RAM would be like our meager 256 on the XT. I actually would be interested in knowing that. With our current locked bootloader situation, I would stay away from the Xoom, even though I think there is a leak. I will never buy a Motorola again b/c of their user policies. I see the Bionic and actually laugh to myself b/c I already know it will be a locked bootloader (but the average person will think it is the best phone ever made. You know that most people don't even know what XDA, root or evena custom ROM is?).
Personally, my wife and I have talked about it and really don't understand the attraction to tabs. If you have a tab running CM7, with flash, email, skype,...it is extremely similar to just having a bigger screened phone. One caveat is that HP discontinued their global personal computer operations (now they are exclusive to technical management solutions- or some crap like that). But suspending their personal computer options does have one benefit for you and me. Their tabs dropped from $699us to $99/139us, but everyone with an online credit card picked one up a few months ago. Bestbuy just sent back all 250,000 they had in stock, so you might be able to still pick one up on the cheap (not android os though).
And finally, Rev is in one of my G+ circles and he posts a fair amount of tablet info, so you might want to PM him and find out his thoughts.
p.s. he changed his avatar from a priest to RevTV with an android. Sorry for the long reply but I have been looking at these for some time now.
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With our current locked bootloader situation, I would stay away from the Xoom, even though I think there is a leak
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Actually, although it pains me to say this, the Xoom is a Google developer device and can be easily unlocked by users (i.e. it's like the OG Droid). I think you're thinking of the leaked Atrix unlock. I would assume Xoom 2 is probably wearing a chastity belt until proven deflowered.
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When you got your XT, I bet you thought it was the top of the heap. I did.
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Nope. I got mine quite a bit after it came out. I didn't really understand the RAM issues and other issues it had though... (was still pretty new to Android).
I would stay away from the Xoom, even though I think there is a leak.
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It has unlockable/relockable bootloader and most likely the biggest developer community of any tablet atm and for a while (it's like a nexus phone I'd say).
Personally, my wife and I have talked about it and really don't understand the attraction to tabs.
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I actually felt much the same way until recently. I do have uses for a tablet, though I've been thinking of the "it's a bigger screened phone" bit as well. There are certain things that I want to do that I can't do on the smaller screen of my phone (i.e. productivity stuff such as writing down lecture notes and working on essays, video chatting on a larger screen etc...). But some of the functionality on the tab is definitely duplicated by a phone. That's why I really love concepts such as the Padfone... (but that's not coming out for quite a while I believe...). I don't really love the idea of having both tablet and phone (superfluos in some ways), but I want something that combines the functionality of both...
Thanks
My brother has the Asus Transformer and its a beast!! He has had it since day one and everytime I go over there I got to get my sticky lil fingers all over it. He bought the keyboard dock to which makes it twice as good + the full HDMI mirroring makes it awesome. Its also unlockable. He's running one of the newest prime roms with the o/c and there's no waiting for anything. Theres a pretty big dev comunity for it. Plus it has the ips display, which is the same as ipad. If I were you tho I'd wait for the quad cores.... then by a dual core, they will be way cheaper then.(hopefully) :/ lol who needs more than 2 cores in a tablet anyway.
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I bought the Acer A500 when Walmart has them for $299 ($399 but you get a $100 gift card free), but my biased opinion says it is a bit on the big/bulky side. I felt that 10" is not very easy to handle given my small Asian hands. It is also not the lightest, and when I am reading in the bed my arm would get tired from just holding it up. Nonetheless even the Xoom or Galaxy Tab isn't that much lighter so I think maybe it's just me nick-picking.
Long story short I returned it but am very interested in the new 8.9" tab... That may be my sweet-spot on size. Same resolution screen, smaller/lighter to handle, but I will need to see how it's battery life fares.
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I read a great review on Android Police about the Galaxy tab 8.9 and they said battery life was awesome. They hated on the touch wiz ui tho. They said it made everyday tasks sluggish.
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I read a great review on Android Police about the Galaxy tab 8.9 and they said battery life was awesome. They hated on the touch wiz ui tho. They said it made everyday tasks sluggish.
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Well, that's good to hear! I was secretly hoping the smaller screen will mean less battery drain (since I believe the 8.9's battery rating was lower). Regarding the UI... I can always wait for a custom ROM to show up here at some point! I just started playing with MIUI for my XT720 and I love it wwaaaaay better than any of the other UI I've used before. Gotta love the development community on Android!!
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Hello i have an hannspree SN10T1 it s a 10,1 inch Tablet with an Dualcore Tegra2 Chip and the best think it cost only 169 Euro and its perfect.
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Hi guys.
I was going to go purchase the TF101 this week, but I am now in 2 minds whether to wait for the 201.
The problem with me is, when I want something, I have to have it like yesterday. The other problem is, when will it be released here in the U.K?
I really don't like waiting, but I also don't want to be getting a device that is going to be crap in 6 months.
Any advice?
P.S did I say I really don't like waiting, lol
Seg
i played with the new transformer prime at my local gamestop and while the processor is really snappy with everything compared to the original and the screen is alot brighter and slightly clearer, i dont think its worth the extra $200. i bought mine for 299 at gamestop on their black friday sale and i couldnt be happier. The original transformer is a great device. personally, i dont see much benefit for me with a new transformer :].
hope i helped out.
oh yea, the new transformer is a little thinner but its not amazingly thinner. overall good product but not worth the upgrade yet especially with all the dev for the original transformer
Kind of money question, if you can get the prime then buy it, its already available for preorder..
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Thanks guys.
The 101 is currently retailer here between £274 to £330. While the 201 is going to be $499 which I believe works out to be £320 roughly. So with that in mind the 101 should drop in price too, but like I say, I really can't wait to get my hands on one. I have spent the last week and a half watching and reading reviews between the Xoom, Iconia A500 and the 101 and just want to get my hands round one of these gorgeous devices having decided to go with the 101.
So I just don't know......lol. Decissions, decissions
I will put money on it that your $499 will turn out to be more like £400. You cant ever do a straight currency conversion between the states and here, taxes are different for a start. The 101 will be no more "crap" in 6 months time than it is today. If it suits you now then buy one, if it doesn't then hang back. There will always be something newer and better just round the corner so you would never buy anything if you always waited on the latest.
FWIW the last update to the 101 pretty much sorted everything right out. The issues I have with it now are so minor they aren't worth mentioning. ICS when it comes will probably just break everything again so I am in no hurry for it.
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I will put money on it that your $499 will turn out to be more like £400. You cant ever do a straight currency conversion between the states and here, taxes are different for a start. The 101 will be no more "crap" in 6 months time than it is today. If it suits you now then buy one, if it doesn't then hang back. There will always be something newer and better just round the corner so you would never buy anything if you always waited on the latest.
FWIW the last update to the 101 pretty much sorted everything right out. The issues I have with it now are so minor they aren't worth mentioning. ICS when it comes will probably just break everything again so I am in no hurry for it.
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Thanks man.
I have only just in the last few days decided to go with the 101, but obviously with the imminent 201, this kinda got me thinking. I didn't know there were any real issues with the 101 as, like I say just decided within the last few days and so, haven't really got round to reading the threads yet. Yeah it would be nice to have the latest and greatest, but that never comes without issues. I would be more than happy with the 101, pretty much fallen in love with it and thats without even handling one yet.
Like I said though, I just didnt want to purchase something that will be obsolete in 6 months.
I think you have just made my mind up though V8Code......I'm gonna get the 101.
Can you tell me the advantages to rooting the 101? I previously had the HD2 and the Galaxys S2. I used to flash different roms on the HD2 more or less every week. The Galaxy S2 I only rooted though to play Tegra 2 games.
Thanks
Seg
Asus said they plan to keep the TF at $399 as like a "lower end" model with the TFP at 499 / 599 as the high end premium model. If you can i would recommend forking up the extra because it is newer, quad core and should get updates for longer. If not there is nothing wrong with the transformer as it is.
I'm a bit of of an A/V person and chomping at the bit to get a Prime. It's told it has much better A (sound quality) and V (better video). Also, the prospect of plugging in a USB drive and playing Blu-Ray rips. That's just nerdvana.
Anyway, bump on the stability of the latest release. Everything is very good. I agree ICS will probably jack it up, but I'm going to take it regardless.
I'm in the market for both at the moment (my brother wants a TF101).
Get the 201 !!
Check this out
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/asus-transformer-prime-review/
Well thanks for all the advice guys. Well I couldn't wait could I. Just ordered it tonight, going to pick up tommorrow. Yippeee, can't wait.
Thanks again
Seg
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Well thanks for all the advice guys. Well I couldn't wait could I. Just ordered it tonight, going to pick up tommorrow. Yippeee, can't wait.
Thanks again
Seg
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Where did you preorder it in the UK?
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Where did you preorder it in the UK?
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Sorry mate. I should have been a bit more clear. I ordered the TF101 not the 201.
Sorry
Seg
I had exactly the same thing in mind. I wanted the prime, but I think it will land at £499 which is way too rich for my blood. I bought the tf101 last week for £279.99 from play.com.
So far I'm fairly happy, although at times it seems less responsive than my defy running cyanogen. I am looking forward to the ics update... And the potential for cm9.
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I had exactly the same thing in mind. I wanted the prime, but I think it will land at £499 which is way too rich for my blood. I bought the tf101 last week for £279.99 from play.com.
So far I'm fairly happy, although at times it seems less responsive than my defy running cyanogen. I am looking forward to the ics update... And the potential for cm9.
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Well i have got mine. Even better to see it for real. So far very happy. Turned on and instantly wanted to update. Not only once but twice. Now on 3.2.1. So far so good, just setting everything up.
Seg
I just bought the TF101 for my wife's birthday in November. Got it on Craigslist w/ the dock for $375 and 8 month left on the warranty from Best Buy. It was a bit of a disappointment running a version of Prime. I just flashed Revolver 3.9.5 and it seems to be a bit more promising, but still not as fluid as I expected. Things should get better with ICS, as phones did with going to Gingerbread from Froyo. The biggest drawback in seems to be playback of 1080p video. I know netbooks have a problem with this, and its asking a lot from a tablet to do this as well. But i have a GoPro Hero 2, and it would be great to view what you shot skiing on a tablet with out it being choppy to the point of being un-watchable. So if the prime is up to this with its Tegra 3 processor, the TF101 is back on the market. If not, the TF101 is just like our SGS phones vs. the SGS II. Good enough to make the skip to the next generation bearable.
My rule of thumb is almost always get yesterday's model. You can get it for cheaper and it is just as good. If you always for today's model, then you will never be happy because tomorrow's model will be here in just a few short months.
I don't plan on ditching my TF101 anytime soon. And even if I finally decide to get a newer model, I will still keep this one. Beside my phone, I've never had anything else that's travels everywhere with me like the TF.
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Sorry mate. I should have been a bit more clear. I ordered the TF101 not the 201.
Sorry
Seg
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Oh, OK. No problem
Does anyone know if the prime can handle HD videos better, I struggle to play mkv files even at 720p on the transformer, it plays avi files fine in dice player. But not mkv.
i have just ordered the Tf101.
the prime may have a better processor but at the moment its Sd card slot is disabled and it only has 1 speaker, unlike the previous model which has 2.
dont worry about HD playback, there are various apps on the market that cna play back 1080p HD video even if the native app cant.
your basically paying around £100 extra for the tegra 3...
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Does anyone know if the prime can handle HD videos better, I struggle to play mkv files even at 720p on the transformer, it plays avi files fine in dice player. But not mkv.
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I have got Toy Story 3 720 running nice, just need the audio now,lol
I know that's just like my opinion and stuff, most tech blogswill vote for 10.1tab or ipadpon 2 but we know which tab was the greatest of 2011 without a doubt. First honeycomb, first everything.
I own a Galaxy SII and a Xoom (MZ605, 3G + Wi-fi). I am extremely happy with my SGS2 and very disappointed with the Xoom.
The Galaxy is a much better android device than the Zoom. I know we're comparing onions to potatoes here, but if the Galaxy S II is any indication of what the Galaxy Tab is, then I regret immensely to have bought the Xoom instead of the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
The sgsII is imo the best phone out right now. Lack of sd card and plasticy back make the tab ten.one less desirable for me than xoom. It's just that the xoom came out way before the tab so I was basing my opinion on the fact that we have had much more experience with the honeycomb ui than most tab owners. Either way both tablets provided the best android experience available in 2011 and can't wait to see what next year brings.
I love my Xoom... to me it has been the best of the bunch in overall comparison for 2011, and it still has plenty of life in it. I would love my next tab to be a Xoom as well, but the new ones don't impress me.
I have now owned 5 tabs total including the "almighty" Galaxy 10.1 and the Xoom was the only one that didnt end up on Craigslist! The only thing the Galaxy had over my Xoom was the screen colors. Not enough to justify trading up though, i love my Xoom......
I live my xoom, but its too big for most tablets. Lots of then are so much smaller really thinner. I don't understand why this thing is so thick? But it does gave an sd card slot and that makes a huge difference to me, but the screens also kinds sucks!
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I live my xoom, but its too big for most tablets. Lots of then are so much smaller really thinner. I don't understand why this thing is so thick? But it does gave an sd card slot and that makes a huge difference to me, but the screens also kinds sucks!
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I prefer the thick, heavy metal feel of the Xoom. I pick up other tablets and most feel like toys, don't really give something solid to hold on to. With all the features and the tank-like build I am sold. Coming from a Tegra phone it is also cool to see how cool the Xoom runs while under a heavy overclocked load. Just a real nice platform.
Some like their Phantoms, some like their Miatas. I'll keep my Rolls Royce!
The Xoom was the best to me because of speaker placement. When shopping for tablets I found the Xoom to have the best sound...bar none.
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Lack of sd card and plasticy back make the tab ten.one less desirable for me than xoom.
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That`s exactly why I chose the Xoom over the GTab 10.1. I like the fact that I can simply upgrade my uSD card rather than have a device whose storage can't be upgraded.
I already bought a Class 10, 32Gb uSD card from DealExtreme.
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I love my Xoom... to me it has been the best of the bunch in overall comparison for 2011, and it still has plenty of life in it. I would love my next tab to be a Xoom as well, but the new ones don't impress me.
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I think the next xoom after the xoom2 will be really impressive. Probably sometime in April/may one year after most of us have had our of xoom they will come out with quad core,2560 x 1600 screen, 2gb ram, my wish list could go on but I mean tablets are so new that motorola should be able to get their act together and bring us another groundbreaking tablet like the og xoom.
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The Xoom was the best to me because of speaker placement. When shopping for tablets I found the Xoom to have the best sound...bar none.
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I don't like the speakers on the back because when I try to listen to something by myself the sound shoots behind the tablet into other rooms, I would have liked front facing.
If you place something behind it or cup your hands around the speakers... even in a case, it sounds like surround sound.
I have an Sg2 phone....the best by far in my opinion. I also have a Xoom tablet which I also think is the best. The specs on the Galaxy tab fell short because of the lack of SD card. My other beef about android in general is the latency factor....as I understand it about 100ms v 10ish on an ipad. It's almost (though not quite) enough to make me go for an ipad
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I'd say best Android tablet of the year for sure. In spite of "not being an iPad killer", 4G/SD debacle, there was very little trade-off with the Xoom. Might be a little thick and heavy, but with the OTG cable, SD slot after root, direct HDMI out, 32GB base storage, and typically the quickest OS updates I don't see how this wasn't the ultimate Android tablet this year. GED. Year end promise of ICS.
Samsung had some "wow" factor with it's thin sleek device, and it probably got more consumers considering Android than the Xoom. But there's more trade-offs with no expansion, no built in HDMI, multiple dongles. I agree with the less solid feeling on that tablet too. I always give phones and tablets a good bend test and the Samsung did not pass.
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I'd say best Android tablet of the year for sure. In spite of "not being an iPad killer", 4G/SD debacle, there was very little trade-off with the Xoom. Might be a little thick and heavy, but with the OTG cable, SD slot after root, direct HDMI out, 32GB base storage, and typically the quickest OS updates I don't see how this wasn't the ultimate Android tablet this year. GED. Year end promise of ICS.
Samsung had some "wow" factor with it's thin sleek device, and it probably got more consumers considering Android than the Xoom. But there's more trade-offs with no expansion, no built in HDMI, multiple dongles. I agree with the less solid feeling on that tablet too. I always give phones and tablets a good bend test and the Samsung did not pass.
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Neither did the original ASUS Transformer! I guess they have addressed that with the new Transformer Prime.
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I know that's just like my opinion and stuff, most tech blogswill vote for 10.1tab or ipadpon 2 but we know which tab was the greatest of 2011 without a doubt. First honeycomb, first everything.
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Agreed. Rooted, overclocked, Moray ROM and Odachi kernel. The best product I've aquired all year.
Hi, I am looking into getting myself an Android tablet next week and had my heart set on a Motorla Xoom, simply because the price (£279) appears to be the best value around for the spec of the tablet.
One thing that is starting to put me off is alot of people are telling me that the Xoom is 'really heavy'. Now i've read the weight compared to other tablets etc but it doesn't really tell me if the weight is a turn off.
I appreciate if you guys could comment on whether you find the weight of the Xoom to be a hindrance, do you worry about dropping it? is it uncomfortable to hold for browsing the net etc.
Where is the extra weight coming from? is there a bigger battery?
many thanks in advance, the alternate option i have at the same price level is the Galaxy Tab 8.9 which is at the opposite end weight wise, but lacking in storage/screen size etc.
cheers
K
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Hi, I am looking into getting myself an Android tablet next week and had my heart set on a Motorla Xoom, simply because the price (£279) appears to be the best value around for the spec of the tablet.
One thing that is starting to put me off is alot of people are telling me that the Xoom is 'really heavy'. Now i've read the weight compared to other tablets etc but it doesn't really tell me if the weight is a turn off.
I appreciate if you guys could comment on whether you find the weight of the Xoom to be a hindrance, do you worry about dropping it? is it uncomfortable to hold for browsing the net etc.
Where is the extra weight coming from? is there a bigger battery?
many thanks in advance, the alternate option i have at the same price level is the Galaxy Tab 8.9 which is at the opposite end weight wise, but lacking in storage/screen size etc.
cheers
K
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Eh - I Love my Xoom, but in answer to your questions....
Yes, the Xoom could be considered "heavy" as compared to some other
tablets.
Xoom - 708g
Galaxy tab 10.1 - 565g
Acer Iconia Tab A500 - 730g
I don't find it heavy but it feels solid for sure. Has mostly a sturdy aluminum body
Maybe not a one handed tablet but I for one appreciate its build quality - a big factor in me buying it.
Its definitely a bit heavy, can't deny it. But i love it and it doesnt put me off it. Plus for that price its by far the best option
Yes it's heavy but I personally like that feel from my units.
The only knock on the weight is you will find it difficult to prop it up without some sort of stand or case that supports it.
But considering it is a google experience device, has an unlocked bootloader and is now cheap as far as tablets go I wold buy another one today if I was buying my first tablet!
The only knock I have with the unit has nothing to do with the unit at all!
I just can't for the life of me understand why the HD Speaker dock has every port but a USB on it! Has Power, and HDMI but no USB sync port!
The only other unit I have reccomended was the Transformer series for those who want the laptop experience but the ability to have the tab experience as well!
Asus did a good job on that design but the locked bootloader was a no go for me!
Other less savy folks it's fine but since your posting on XDA I would assme you want to make it into a coffee maker as well! LOL
thanks very much for the replies!
it seems that owners of the Xoom don't have buyers remorse then with regards to the weight of the product , which is the only drawback i could see.
I also thought it very strange that the dock(s) dont have usb connections, strange decision that from Moto, especially since it appears the dock uses the micro usb port when its lining up.
All in all the Xoom appears to be more than value for money, and with the standard dock (£18! on amazon) and keyboard (£20) at such low prices aswell, i could see them combining to replace my laptop.
thanks again, be on the lookout for a Xoom n00b hitting the forum next weekend
its not heavy for me at all.my sister has a galaxy tab 10.1 and it has very small difference in weight.i love its thickness and weight.
I was in the same boat this tablet is awesome and I am glad I got it good build quality and as easy to play with as my galaxy nexus. I wish the front facing camera quality was a little better other than that this is an amazing tablet and I love it. Battery life is good too even clocked at 1.5 GHZ
Heavy...come on...don't be like the others be a real man!
My weakling of a wife has no complaints...humans adapt...
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I will say the device is heavy but I always have it on my lap etc so it doesn't bother me. You will get use to it.
Now I will also add in that this is by far the best tablet to own period. I've rooted/rom'd a lot of different android tablets for co-workers and I can say that NONE have as good of a development community as the Xoom does. Fast roms, kernels, backtrack 5, ubuntu, even the USB "camera" adapter can be used for a keyboard/mouse/USB WiFi, USB thumb drives etc. Basically anything with a USB port will run on this thing.
Xoom for life dude.
I also had the same questions before I got my xoom... It's a great device to have and very customizable.
I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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Yep they are good! - I thought I was a bit late getting one with all the new tablets coming out, but the Xoom does everything I want... as far as weight, it is a little heavy but it doesnt bother me... my mrs and my (almost) 3 year old son use it no problem without a grumble...
Still wondering wether to root it or not... not sure what it would actually gain me
thanks everyone, collected my Xoom from Argos today
great so far.
Should i have registered the same google account as my galaxy s? i didnt, i used a different one, but wondering if i should have used my main one.
thanks
K
If you use the same account, you can purchase apps once and use on both devices.
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I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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Yep they are good! - I thought I was a bit late getting one with all the new tablets coming out, but the Xoom does everything I want... as far as weight, it is a little heavy but it doesnt bother me... my mrs and my (almost) 3 year old son use it no problem without a grumble...
Still wondering wether to root it or not... not sure what it would actually gain me
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Well, two days in and I've flashed the US from and been upgraded to ICS and I'm absolutely thrilled with the Xoom!
I need to find some good tablet apps though, and looks like I'll have to root it to get the BBC apps (should have realised that, lol)
I've not touched my Galaxy S since I got the Xoom.
For anyone reading later, I would say that, yes, the Xoom is on the heavy side, but the build quality and battery life easy make the trade off worth it. Still can't believe I only paid £279.
From a development point of view, the Xoom is second to none. I've had more fun developing on the Xoom than any other android device ever. Also, running ICS and a bleeding edge. 39 kernel, you have access to mobile technology nobody else has yet, such as WifiDirect. Truly, the xoom is at the forefront of android development, and Eos will continue to push the boundaries of Android reality.
Hmm sounds tempting
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