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my thoughts on the moto xoom i just bought

first, i was really excited about the new honeycomb. it's really nice, but after using it for a day, i think the tablet is a joke for what it costs honestly. i paid $880 for this thing and it doesn't even have flash player, doesn't support the micro sd slot yet, no google voice, and isn't no where near $500 better than my gtab with Vegan. it also doesn't have a usb slot, just a micro one.
the good: the screen is much nicer and the overall package is much more refined. it does have 3g/4g, which i don't care about, and gps. same thing, if i need gps, i'll use my phone. it also has a front camera which is nice.
the new market is really nice and now supports books. it has a much nicer layout. i guess the nicest thing about the tablet is honeycomb. i just looks and feels really refined and slick, although i think the screen real estate could be better used. i can't wait till the dev get the honeycomb out for our tablets.
lastly, the case i got for it at best buy for $40, i think, is awesome. i wish i could get something like that for the gtab.
funny part, i did the quadrant test and it only came in at 22xx, but my gtab does 24xx-25xxx.

I played with it at best buy. Honeycomb was awesome but no revolutionary. the xoom itself felt great but definitely not worth $880 even when it gets flash and 4G. the screen though, viewing angle wise, makes me so jealous. although for $800 you think they'd put an oleophobic screen to keep off finger prints. there were a million on the demo at best buy
wasya152 said:
first, i was really excited about the new honeycomb. it's really nice, but after using it for a day, i think the tablet is a joke for what it costs honestly. i paid $880 for this thing and it doesn't even have flash player, doesn't support the micro sd slot yet, no google voice, and isn't no where near $500 better than my gtab with Vegan. it also doesn't have a usb slot, just a micro one.
the good: the screen is much nicer and the overall package is much more refined. it does have 3g/4g, which i don't care about, and gps. same thing, if i need gps, i'll use my phone. it also has a front camera which is nice.
the new market is really nice and now supports books. it has a much nicer layout. i guess the nicest thing about the tablet is honeycomb. i just looks and feels really refined and slick, although i think the screen real estate could be better used. i can't wait till the dev get the honeycomb out for our tablets.
lastly, the case i got for it at best buy for $40, i think, is awesome. i wish i could get something like that for the gtab.
funny part, i did the quadrant test and it only came in at 22xx, but my gtab does 24xx-25xxx.
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I'm hoping to get a xoom too next week. Thanks for ur input. I hope my gtab and xoom play nice.

You should have waited for iPad 2 instead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct1_r_61sk8

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You should have waited for iPad 2 instead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct1_r_61sk8
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HA HA HA HA HA!!! The bass! LOL!

Please read this thread before you pay $800 for a Xoom. Apparently, you can get a pretty significant discount if you purchase directly from Motorola.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968043

Blackbird1100 said:
Please read this thread before you pay $800 for a Xoom. Apparently, you can get a pretty significant discount if you purchase directly from Motorola.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968043
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Motorola responded to DroidLife who posted the code via XDA a few hours after it was posted. They were going to honor all codes that went through but were canceling the coupon thereafter. It was originally meant for 25% off accessories or something.

Played with it at Costco. Salesman told me they sold six out of the ten they got in. Screen is nicer, but at this point in time it doesn't blow Gtab away. It is not a Gtablet killer at this time. Glad I bought the Gtablet. Dollar for dollar still the reigning champ. IMHO.

Kayak83 said:
Motorola responded to DroidLife who posted the code via XDA a few hours after it was posted. They were going to honor all codes that went through but were canceling the coupon thereafter. It was originally meant for 25% off accessories or something.
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I thought it sounded to good to be true. That was a pretty big screw up to give people 25% off of a brand new and possible high demand product. Oh well, good for those who got it!

No USB host kills the Xoom for me.

I have the Xoom and played with the G Tablet. I'd say it's not worth the huge price tag, but it's kind of like going on vacation. You never pay the fair value for what you're getting but for right now I was so happy to get an android tablet with honeycomb.
I wouldn't say it was my wisest or most economical decision but I pretty much got myself in to a frenzy over it.
My buddy has the G Tablet and I'm hoping the devs can get honeycomb going on it, it'll be even better than the ROMs that are already out for it.
I'd say we're only at the start of this honeycomb/tablet thing but if the xoom is any indication it's going to be a lot of fun.

wasya152 said:
first, i was really excited about the new honeycomb. it's really nice, but after using it for a day, i think the tablet is a joke for what it costs honestly. i paid $880 for this thing and it doesn't even have flash player, doesn't support the micro sd slot yet, no google voice, and isn't no where near $500 better than my gtab with Vegan. it also doesn't have a usb slot, just a micro one.
the good: the screen is much nicer and the overall package is much more refined. it does have 3g/4g, which i don't care about, and gps. same thing, if i need gps, i'll use my phone. it also has a front camera which is nice.
the new market is really nice and now supports books. it has a much nicer layout. i guess the nicest thing about the tablet is honeycomb. i just looks and feels really refined and slick, although i think the screen real estate could be better used. i can't wait till the dev get the honeycomb out for our tablets.
lastly, the case i got for it at best buy for $40, i think, is awesome. i wish i could get something like that for the gtab.
funny part, i did the quadrant test and it only came in at 22xx, but my gtab does 24xx-25xxx.
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Does the case for your Xoom come anywhere close to fitting the G tablet? just curious! I was going to go buy one and see but dont want to deal with the hassle if it will not fit. thanks

ByByIpad said:
Played with it at Costco. Salesman told me they sold six out of the ten they got in. Screen is nicer, but at this point in time it doesn't blow Gtab away. It is not a Gtablet killer at this time. Glad I bought the Gtablet. Dollar for dollar still the reigning champ. IMHO.
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Lol, I love the "Gtablet killer" comment. That's right, it's not! I tried to play with one today at BestBuy but it froze up when I tried to view maps. I rebooted it after minutes of looking for the power button and then waiting for the system to actually boot. Load time with all of the widgets was slow. Gtalk wouldn't load. Music widget took 15 seconds to respond. And Honeycomb... felt more like one of those combs in the blue liquid at the barber. That being said, I'm still looking forward to HC on the Gtab because I know our devs will do a much better job.

i got my hands on one at costco too... i didnt see the price difference either. it was nice, but twice as nice? well be smearin the honeycream on our g tabs soon enough!

I played with a doom at a verizon quiosk today and wasn't impressed by anything other than the screen. The ui was nice but sluggish. Dungeon defenders was lag city which may have been due to the screen resolution but non the less, it wasn't even close to the gaming experience on the grab. I took the liberty of downloading quadrant onto it and it barely scored a little over 1800. As has been stated, once honeycomb comes to gtab we will have a fantastic tablet.

G-tablets are $100 off at woot.com today

Time to pick up a second? Plus the description comparing it vs. the iPad is pretty hilarious.

WOOT! I just bought one too.
I have a feeling that after today, there will be like twice as many gtablet owners. I can't wait til honeycomb!

lol not again. In b4 closed

I bought! Very happy.

Just bought one for my wife Let's see how long it takes to arrive here in Sunny South Texas.

Picked one up.
I've been waiting to get a Xoom, but with the price so cheap, I couldn't resist. It will be my first tablet.

Just got one today, i'm so psyched, this subforum is going to get a FLOOD of new users

In for one. On a unrelated note, I now have a Nook Color for sale.
So if these threads keep getting deleted because they are duplicates, where is the first thread?

prana22 said:
I've been waiting to get a Xoom, but with the price so cheap, I couldn't resist. It will be my first tablet.
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My sentiments exactly! Although I was also kind of waiting for a firm price and release date for the Acer EEE Slider, but for $285 I couldn't pass it up. I initially bought a gtab when sears first started selling them, but after using it for a week or so, I came to the conclusion that I wanted to keep it, but not for $420(after tax). I ended up returning the Gtab. Does anyone know of any good tips/tricks to improve the viewing angle? Also are there any nice speedy 2.2/2.3 roms that allow you to disable the hardware buttons on the face of the gtab and assign a hardware button for home or back?

So I'm early at the movies and I'm poking around on my droidx and I spot this post. I cruise over to wootand sure enough there it is. Do I need asecond tablet? Well, I think, then I can experiment without messing up my vegan that I'm now accustomed to using. Makes sense eh? A quick check revealed nothing close to this price elsewhere so I did the transaction all on my Droid and soon the fun will begin in earnest,. A little sting when the CC bill arrives but so many hours of interesting problem solving to look forward to. My geek factor really spiked tonight! Thanks for the heads up!

haha first time tablet owner too!!! just bought one impulse buy! hope i dont regret it!

I had to pick one up too. Ive been looking a all sorts of tablets and waiting for a good deal... well $279 was too good to pass up. I look forward to customizing the hell out of it like I did with my Captivate.

OMG!!!!
I got 1 too.
That takes the fear out of ruining my original.

I've been looking for a good case/stand with keyboard for the last hour or so and just found this:
http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-G-T...3LRLVE&s=merchant-items&qid=1300939884&sr=1-1
Hopefully I can save some new owners a bit of time, it was hard to find a case that would fit.

Looks almost like the one I have, but the previous (i.e. messed up one) if the picture is 100% correct.
The one with 2 tabs (left), 1 tab (top + bottom) holds it fine, but the one pictured does not (2 tabs bottom 1 left/right).
Everything else is the same though, and people moved the tabs on those so it might work for you. Look back in past threads, and you should find it. WitGlobal I think is the company if they still make/sell them.

Ordered one up for myself. After taking back the NC last week because it was an impulse buy! Can't beat that price!

Lol I got one. Woot...... 280
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I got one too!!!

TF101 or TF201?

Hi guys.
I was going to go purchase the TF101 this week, but I am now in 2 minds whether to wait for the 201.
The problem with me is, when I want something, I have to have it like yesterday. The other problem is, when will it be released here in the U.K?
I really don't like waiting, but I also don't want to be getting a device that is going to be crap in 6 months.
Any advice?
P.S did I say I really don't like waiting, lol
Seg

i played with the new transformer prime at my local gamestop and while the processor is really snappy with everything compared to the original and the screen is alot brighter and slightly clearer, i dont think its worth the extra $200. i bought mine for 299 at gamestop on their black friday sale and i couldnt be happier. The original transformer is a great device. personally, i dont see much benefit for me with a new transformer :].
hope i helped out.
oh yea, the new transformer is a little thinner but its not amazingly thinner. overall good product but not worth the upgrade yet especially with all the dev for the original transformer

Kind of money question, if you can get the prime then buy it, its already available for preorder..
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Thanks guys.
The 101 is currently retailer here between £274 to £330. While the 201 is going to be $499 which I believe works out to be £320 roughly. So with that in mind the 101 should drop in price too, but like I say, I really can't wait to get my hands on one. I have spent the last week and a half watching and reading reviews between the Xoom, Iconia A500 and the 101 and just want to get my hands round one of these gorgeous devices having decided to go with the 101.
So I just don't know......lol. Decissions, decissions

I will put money on it that your $499 will turn out to be more like £400. You cant ever do a straight currency conversion between the states and here, taxes are different for a start. The 101 will be no more "crap" in 6 months time than it is today. If it suits you now then buy one, if it doesn't then hang back. There will always be something newer and better just round the corner so you would never buy anything if you always waited on the latest.
FWIW the last update to the 101 pretty much sorted everything right out. The issues I have with it now are so minor they aren't worth mentioning. ICS when it comes will probably just break everything again so I am in no hurry for it.

v8code said:
I will put money on it that your $499 will turn out to be more like £400. You cant ever do a straight currency conversion between the states and here, taxes are different for a start. The 101 will be no more "crap" in 6 months time than it is today. If it suits you now then buy one, if it doesn't then hang back. There will always be something newer and better just round the corner so you would never buy anything if you always waited on the latest.
FWIW the last update to the 101 pretty much sorted everything right out. The issues I have with it now are so minor they aren't worth mentioning. ICS when it comes will probably just break everything again so I am in no hurry for it.
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Thanks man.
I have only just in the last few days decided to go with the 101, but obviously with the imminent 201, this kinda got me thinking. I didn't know there were any real issues with the 101 as, like I say just decided within the last few days and so, haven't really got round to reading the threads yet. Yeah it would be nice to have the latest and greatest, but that never comes without issues. I would be more than happy with the 101, pretty much fallen in love with it and thats without even handling one yet.
Like I said though, I just didnt want to purchase something that will be obsolete in 6 months.
I think you have just made my mind up though V8Code......I'm gonna get the 101.
Can you tell me the advantages to rooting the 101? I previously had the HD2 and the Galaxys S2. I used to flash different roms on the HD2 more or less every week. The Galaxy S2 I only rooted though to play Tegra 2 games.
Thanks
Seg

Asus said they plan to keep the TF at $399 as like a "lower end" model with the TFP at 499 / 599 as the high end premium model. If you can i would recommend forking up the extra because it is newer, quad core and should get updates for longer. If not there is nothing wrong with the transformer as it is.

I'm a bit of of an A/V person and chomping at the bit to get a Prime. It's told it has much better A (sound quality) and V (better video). Also, the prospect of plugging in a USB drive and playing Blu-Ray rips. That's just nerdvana.
Anyway, bump on the stability of the latest release. Everything is very good. I agree ICS will probably jack it up, but I'm going to take it regardless.
I'm in the market for both at the moment (my brother wants a TF101).

Get the 201 !!
Check this out
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/asus-transformer-prime-review/

Well thanks for all the advice guys. Well I couldn't wait could I. Just ordered it tonight, going to pick up tommorrow. Yippeee, can't wait.
Thanks again
Seg

Seg2012 said:
Well thanks for all the advice guys. Well I couldn't wait could I. Just ordered it tonight, going to pick up tommorrow. Yippeee, can't wait.
Thanks again
Seg
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Where did you preorder it in the UK?

redbullcat said:
Where did you preorder it in the UK?
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Sorry mate. I should have been a bit more clear. I ordered the TF101 not the 201.
Sorry
Seg

I had exactly the same thing in mind. I wanted the prime, but I think it will land at £499 which is way too rich for my blood. I bought the tf101 last week for £279.99 from play.com.
So far I'm fairly happy, although at times it seems less responsive than my defy running cyanogen. I am looking forward to the ics update... And the potential for cm9.

I-S said:
I had exactly the same thing in mind. I wanted the prime, but I think it will land at £499 which is way too rich for my blood. I bought the tf101 last week for £279.99 from play.com.
So far I'm fairly happy, although at times it seems less responsive than my defy running cyanogen. I am looking forward to the ics update... And the potential for cm9.
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Well i have got mine. Even better to see it for real. So far very happy. Turned on and instantly wanted to update. Not only once but twice. Now on 3.2.1. So far so good, just setting everything up.
Seg

I just bought the TF101 for my wife's birthday in November. Got it on Craigslist w/ the dock for $375 and 8 month left on the warranty from Best Buy. It was a bit of a disappointment running a version of Prime. I just flashed Revolver 3.9.5 and it seems to be a bit more promising, but still not as fluid as I expected. Things should get better with ICS, as phones did with going to Gingerbread from Froyo. The biggest drawback in seems to be playback of 1080p video. I know netbooks have a problem with this, and its asking a lot from a tablet to do this as well. But i have a GoPro Hero 2, and it would be great to view what you shot skiing on a tablet with out it being choppy to the point of being un-watchable. So if the prime is up to this with its Tegra 3 processor, the TF101 is back on the market. If not, the TF101 is just like our SGS phones vs. the SGS II. Good enough to make the skip to the next generation bearable.

My rule of thumb is almost always get yesterday's model. You can get it for cheaper and it is just as good. If you always for today's model, then you will never be happy because tomorrow's model will be here in just a few short months.
I don't plan on ditching my TF101 anytime soon. And even if I finally decide to get a newer model, I will still keep this one. Beside my phone, I've never had anything else that's travels everywhere with me like the TF.

Seg2012 said:
Sorry mate. I should have been a bit more clear. I ordered the TF101 not the 201.
Sorry
Seg
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Oh, OK. No problem

Does anyone know if the prime can handle HD videos better, I struggle to play mkv files even at 720p on the transformer, it plays avi files fine in dice player. But not mkv.

i have just ordered the Tf101.
the prime may have a better processor but at the moment its Sd card slot is disabled and it only has 1 speaker, unlike the previous model which has 2.
dont worry about HD playback, there are various apps on the market that cna play back 1080p HD video even if the native app cant.
your basically paying around £100 extra for the tegra 3...

daz_2000 said:
Does anyone know if the prime can handle HD videos better, I struggle to play mkv files even at 720p on the transformer, it plays avi files fine in dice player. But not mkv.
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I have got Toy Story 3 720 running nice, just need the audio now,lol

[Q] Am i too late to the party?

Hi, I am looking into getting myself an Android tablet next week and had my heart set on a Motorla Xoom, simply because the price (£279) appears to be the best value around for the spec of the tablet.
One thing that is starting to put me off is alot of people are telling me that the Xoom is 'really heavy'. Now i've read the weight compared to other tablets etc but it doesn't really tell me if the weight is a turn off.
I appreciate if you guys could comment on whether you find the weight of the Xoom to be a hindrance, do you worry about dropping it? is it uncomfortable to hold for browsing the net etc.
Where is the extra weight coming from? is there a bigger battery?
many thanks in advance, the alternate option i have at the same price level is the Galaxy Tab 8.9 which is at the opposite end weight wise, but lacking in storage/screen size etc.
cheers
K

Stillkrazy said:
Hi, I am looking into getting myself an Android tablet next week and had my heart set on a Motorla Xoom, simply because the price (£279) appears to be the best value around for the spec of the tablet.
One thing that is starting to put me off is alot of people are telling me that the Xoom is 'really heavy'. Now i've read the weight compared to other tablets etc but it doesn't really tell me if the weight is a turn off.
I appreciate if you guys could comment on whether you find the weight of the Xoom to be a hindrance, do you worry about dropping it? is it uncomfortable to hold for browsing the net etc.
Where is the extra weight coming from? is there a bigger battery?
many thanks in advance, the alternate option i have at the same price level is the Galaxy Tab 8.9 which is at the opposite end weight wise, but lacking in storage/screen size etc.
cheers
K
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Eh - I Love my Xoom, but in answer to your questions....
Yes, the Xoom could be considered "heavy" as compared to some other
tablets.
Xoom - 708g
Galaxy tab 10.1 - 565g
Acer Iconia Tab A500 - 730g
I don't find it heavy but it feels solid for sure. Has mostly a sturdy aluminum body
Maybe not a one handed tablet but I for one appreciate its build quality - a big factor in me buying it.

Its definitely a bit heavy, can't deny it. But i love it and it doesnt put me off it. Plus for that price its by far the best option

Yes it's heavy but I personally like that feel from my units.
The only knock on the weight is you will find it difficult to prop it up without some sort of stand or case that supports it.
But considering it is a google experience device, has an unlocked bootloader and is now cheap as far as tablets go I wold buy another one today if I was buying my first tablet!
The only knock I have with the unit has nothing to do with the unit at all!
I just can't for the life of me understand why the HD Speaker dock has every port but a USB on it! Has Power, and HDMI but no USB sync port!
The only other unit I have reccomended was the Transformer series for those who want the laptop experience but the ability to have the tab experience as well!
Asus did a good job on that design but the locked bootloader was a no go for me!
Other less savy folks it's fine but since your posting on XDA I would assme you want to make it into a coffee maker as well! LOL

thanks very much for the replies!
it seems that owners of the Xoom don't have buyers remorse then with regards to the weight of the product , which is the only drawback i could see.
I also thought it very strange that the dock(s) dont have usb connections, strange decision that from Moto, especially since it appears the dock uses the micro usb port when its lining up.
All in all the Xoom appears to be more than value for money, and with the standard dock (£18! on amazon) and keyboard (£20) at such low prices aswell, i could see them combining to replace my laptop.
thanks again, be on the lookout for a Xoom n00b hitting the forum next weekend

its not heavy for me at all.my sister has a galaxy tab 10.1 and it has very small difference in weight.i love its thickness and weight.

I was in the same boat this tablet is awesome and I am glad I got it good build quality and as easy to play with as my galaxy nexus. I wish the front facing camera quality was a little better other than that this is an amazing tablet and I love it. Battery life is good too even clocked at 1.5 GHZ

Heavy...come on...don't be like the others be a real man!
My weakling of a wife has no complaints...humans adapt...
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I will say the device is heavy but I always have it on my lap etc so it doesn't bother me. You will get use to it.
Now I will also add in that this is by far the best tablet to own period. I've rooted/rom'd a lot of different android tablets for co-workers and I can say that NONE have as good of a development community as the Xoom does. Fast roms, kernels, backtrack 5, ubuntu, even the USB "camera" adapter can be used for a keyboard/mouse/USB WiFi, USB thumb drives etc. Basically anything with a USB port will run on this thing.
Xoom for life dude.

I also had the same questions before I got my xoom... It's a great device to have and very customizable.

I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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Good choice!

Yep they are good! - I thought I was a bit late getting one with all the new tablets coming out, but the Xoom does everything I want... as far as weight, it is a little heavy but it doesnt bother me... my mrs and my (almost) 3 year old son use it no problem without a grumble...
Still wondering wether to root it or not... not sure what it would actually gain me

thanks everyone, collected my Xoom from Argos today
great so far.
Should i have registered the same google account as my galaxy s? i didnt, i used a different one, but wondering if i should have used my main one.
thanks
K

If you use the same account, you can purchase apps once and use on both devices.

Stillkrazy said:
I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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Welcome to the DARK side!

Geeba said:
Yep they are good! - I thought I was a bit late getting one with all the new tablets coming out, but the Xoom does everything I want... as far as weight, it is a little heavy but it doesnt bother me... my mrs and my (almost) 3 year old son use it no problem without a grumble...
Still wondering wether to root it or not... not sure what it would actually gain me
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Well, two days in and I've flashed the US from and been upgraded to ICS and I'm absolutely thrilled with the Xoom!
I need to find some good tablet apps though, and looks like I'll have to root it to get the BBC apps (should have realised that, lol)
I've not touched my Galaxy S since I got the Xoom.
For anyone reading later, I would say that, yes, the Xoom is on the heavy side, but the build quality and battery life easy make the trade off worth it. Still can't believe I only paid £279.

From a development point of view, the Xoom is second to none. I've had more fun developing on the Xoom than any other android device ever. Also, running ICS and a bleeding edge. 39 kernel, you have access to mobile technology nobody else has yet, such as WifiDirect. Truly, the xoom is at the forefront of android development, and Eos will continue to push the boundaries of Android reality.

Hmm sounds tempting
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Is the Xoom still worth getting?

Hello everyone. Right now I have an Acer Iconia A100 7" tablet. I really want a 10" tablet but dont have a lot that I can spend for one. Ive been looking at the Xoom for a little while now since I can find them around the $200 range if Im lucky. The question is, with the Nexus 10 out now, is it still worth it to get a Xoom or would it be better to hold out a few months and save for a Nexus 10?
And if it helps, I would be using the tablet for a little of everything. Internet, music, movies, games and a lot of reading (mostly comics).
I greatly appreciate any info that can be provided.

JohnnyDanger said:
Hello everyone. Right now I have an Acer Iconia A100 7" tablet. I really want a 10" tablet but dont have a lot that I can spend for one. Ive been looking at the Xoom for a little while now since I can find them around the $200 range if Im lucky. The question is, with the Nexus 10 out now, is it still worth it to get a Xoom or would it be better to hold out a few months and save for a Nexus 10?
And if it helps, I would be using the tablet for a little of everything. Internet, music, movies, games and a lot of reading (mostly comics).
I greatly appreciate any info that can be provided.
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Well, kinda depends on your needs. Xoom is and has always been a strong tablet, but at two years old, it is starting to show it's age.
Xoom is a versatile, solid, all around tablet, 32 gb with expandable storage, bluetooth, hdmi, and usb. It's weakness's mainly are the backlight, it's heft (for some) and it's age. 720p display, and about impossible to see outside during daylight(sunlight and overcast.) Tegra2 is a good processor but dated and unable to take advantage of all the benefits of newer games demanding the power of a quadcore like the tegra3 ( dead trigger.) Right now it is very minor things we are missing out on. Eventually there may be games we can't play at all. More than likely Jelly bean is the last official update the xoom will get. I can't speak for the developers. If you don't care about latest and greatest, but need something fully functional and good bang for the buck...... xoom is a definite option
Nexus 10 has a great display, true 1080p, and the A15 cortex dual core processor destroys the tegra3 quad core in comparison tests from what I have read. It is the closest any tablet has come to being what the xoom was two years ago. The deal breaker for me is no expandable storage.
Hope this helps

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Thanks for the great info Draxin. You have me some things to think about. I can do without the 1080p and thinking about it I'm not sure that running the newest and greatest games matters. On the other hand viewing outside is kind of a big deal.
Decisions decisions.
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Draxin said:
Well, kinda depends on your needs. Xoom is and has always been a strong tablet, but at two years old, it is starting to show it's age.
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Lol, sorry Drex - showing its age? La La La La ... not listening. (covering ears) Any device is relative to it's users needs. Newer is not always better. Bigger, faster, lighter most likely (in some aspects, other areas maybe not). Does it really suit my needs? Probably not. The next best thing, will be replaced by the next best thing the following year. Vicious cycle my friend. Marketing is evil and we consumers are its puppets They can always count on that buyer that must have the newest whatever. We are making these guy rich lol.
Happy New Year! Xoom Xoom-

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Lol, sorry Drex - showing its age? La La La La ... not listening. (covering ears) Any device is relative to it's users needs. Newer is not always better. Bigger, faster, lighter most likely (in some aspects, other areas maybe not). Does it really suit my needs? Probably not. The next best thing, will be replaced by the next best thing the following year. Vicious cycle my friend. Marketing is evil and we consumers are its puppets They can always count on that buyer that must have the newest whatever. We are making these guy rich lol.
Happy New Year! Xoom Xoom-
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True. But Johnny Danger isnt looking to sell off a xoom, he wants to know if it is a viable option still in the 10 inch market. So he needs to ask himself what he wants from his new tablet before purchasing. Xoom is a fantastic tablet and easily one of the best purchases I have made, but I made my purchase almost a year ago when it was still running honeycomb stock and developers were porting ICS. I Got to watch it make leaps and bounds in functionality, smoothness, and reaching for the limits of it's potential. Now developers are facing the limitations of the space in the system partition for OS. And it sounds like they can't scrape any extra space from the internal sd or make some available on the ext. sd cause it is locked. So if Johnny Danger wants a solid, hard working tablet that can do anything he wants to do now, and should be able to do most(if not all) tasks in the future, the xoom is a perfect fit, he just needs to be aware that what we have now may be close to as good as he will get over the next two years of ownership(not saying it is bad), just saying don't expect much more from Motorola.
If he wants the latest and greatest games at their full potential, see movies in full resolution get OTA's of newer OS's and have a tablet equipped to get the most out of anything coming down the pike in the next two years, he needs to save up and get the nexus 10, conveniently priced at around the same range the xoom was when it first came out

If you asked 3-4 months ago, well yes.. But now there is no reason to buy a 2 years old device (and was out AOSP) with price ~$300.

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So if Johnny Danger wants a solid, hard working tablet that can do anything he wants to do now, and should be able to do most(if not all) tasks in the future, the xoom is a perfect fit, he just needs to be aware that what we have now may be close to as good as he will get over the next two years of ownership(not saying it is bad), just saying don't expect much more from Motorola.
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True, I fully understand the question. Basically the gist was yes it is still worth getting if it suits his needs no argument.
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If you asked 3-4 months ago, well yes.. But now there is no reason to buy a 2 years old device (and was out AOSP) with price ~$300.
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AOSP or AOKP depends on which ROM chosen. (rooted)

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If you asked 3-4 months ago, well yes.. But now there is no reason to buy a 2 years old device (and was out AOSP) with price ~$300.
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I'm fully happy with xoom and this will be long relationship. I had in my hands asus transformer but truelly i cant see any limitations or u want gaming on it - but its not for it.

Well I went ahead and got a xoom. I bought a used one on Craigslist and feel that I got a good deal. I got 32gb xoom, original box and charger, official Motorola xoom cover, and 2 screen protectors for $150.
I absolutely love it. Everything runs great, including the games I play. My son was watching YouTube videos on it and sometimes it hiccups but that doesn't bother me. The thing that really took me by surprise is the battery life. It lasts so long on a charge. Now I understand why people were so upset with the Acer iconia tab a100 battery life. This is one of the fewer purchases I have no regrets about. Just a fantastic tablet.
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Well I went ahead and got a xoom. I bought a used one on Craigslist and feel that I got a good deal. I got 32gb xoom, original box and charger, official Motorola xoom cover, and 2 screen protectors for $150.
I absolutely love it. Everything runs great, including the games I play. My son was watching YouTube videos on it and sometimes it hiccups but that doesn't bother me. The thing that really took me by surprise is the battery life. It lasts so long on a charge. Now I understand why people were so upset with the Acer iconia tab a100 battery life. This is one of the fewer purchases I have no regrets about. Just a fantastic tablet.
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Good on ya! I really don't think you'll have any regrets, it's still a very speedy tablet and the build quality is unsurpassed.

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Good on ya! I really don't think you'll have any regrets, it's still a very speedy tablet and the build quality is unsurpassed.
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You are not lying about the build quality. This thing feels so well made its incredible.

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Lol, sorry Drex - showing its age? La La La La ... not listening. (covering ears) Any device is relative to it's users needs. Newer is not always better. Bigger, faster, lighter most likely (in some aspects, other areas maybe not). Does it really suit my needs? Probably not. The next best thing, will be replaced by the next best thing the following year. Vicious cycle my friend. Marketing is evil and we consumers are its puppets They can always count on that buyer that must have the newest whatever. We are making these guy rich lol.
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You're kidding yourself if you think it has anything to do with marketing. The Xoom has been showing its age for a while. Its great that devs continue to bring us the latest firmware but even they have acknowledge that the Xoom's limits are being pushed.
It is as you said, relative to needs, but I think its also good to think about the future. What will a 2 year old device be able to do a year from now? Two years from now?
I'd say save up honestly and hope for a sale on the N10 (tho it looks like the OP already invested v0v)

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Well I went ahead and got a xoom. I bought a used one on Craigslist and feel that I got a good deal. I got 32gb xoom, original box and charger, official Motorola xoom cover, and 2 screen protectors for $150.
I absolutely love it. Everything runs great, including the games I play. My son was watching YouTube videos on it and sometimes it hiccups but that doesn't bother me. The thing that really took me by surprise is the battery life. It lasts so long on a charge. Now I understand why people were so upset with the Acer iconia tab a100 battery life. This is one of the fewer purchases I have no regrets about. Just a fantastic tablet.
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I just made the same switch today I paid 50 more then you but my girl has n7 I did not want same thing so I just got this but I like it actually have not even rooted
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If you want buttery smooth android goodness, put eos 3 nightly # 155 on your xoom, johnny danger. You'll thank me later

alex94kumar said:
If you want buttery smooth android goodness, put eos 3 nightly # 155 on your xoom, johnny danger. You'll thank me later
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Thanks Alex, I will see about doing that.
@Cubanluke88, Im well aware that a 2 year old device is not going to be on par with the most recent devices, like the N10. But at this point it was a matter of me wanting a 10" tablet that would do what I needed it to do now. I may still get a N10 in a few months and just give my Xoom to one of my kids (I have three, two that are teens). But for right now, its working great and I couldnt be happier. Especially at the price I paid. I might be getting a new job soon and if I do, Im going to be taking a hour train ride to work and back and Im just happy to know that Im going to have a nice big tablet to provide entertainment on those train rides if I do get the job.

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Thanks Alex, I will see about doing that.
@Cubanluke88, Im well aware that a 2 year old device is not going to be on par with the most recent devices, like the N10. But at this point it was a matter of me wanting a 10" tablet that would do what I needed it to do now. I may still get a N10 in a few months and just give my Xoom to one of my kids (I have three, two that are teens). But for right now, its working great and I couldnt be happier. Especially at the price I paid. I might be getting a new job soon and if I do, Im going to be taking a hour train ride to work and back and Im just happy to know that Im going to have a nice big tablet to provide entertainment on those train rides if I do get the job.
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Like the OP I'm looking to get a reasonably priced tablet for Browsing, a little eReading and some video watching. It's hard enough to justify what is really a gadget purchase and I certainly can't justify the ~€500 price ranges of the top tablets. My target is around the €200 mark.
I like the look of the Nexus 7, but the small screen bothers me a little. I've a Sony Xperia S and 7 inches doesn't seem to give me enough of a boost over it's 4.3 inches to justify spending €250. So I'm looking at reputable brands which have been discounted (due to age or market forces) rather than the budget trinkets that you can get. I even considered a heavily discounted Playbook (~€170) but that's just too far out of the park in terms of OS, support, etc.
I can get a Xoom II (16 GB, WiFi) for about €280, but thats at the upper end of my target budget. I can get a Xoom (32 GB WiFi) (B-stock, new but damaged/opened packaging) for €200, and that has my attention. But I'm worried about the processor speed and the display. I could also get a new Xoom II ME (16 GB, WiFi) for about the same price, €200. Apart from the newer specs (a faster processor and better screen), the 8.2 inch format strikes me as possibly more portable (for use while commuting). WiFi only is also fine for me as when I'm not in a normal WiFi area I'll use my Xperia S as a hotspot.
So, given my budget limitations and the fact that it's probably for light browsing/reading use (some videos while on holidays perhaps), would the Xoom II ME or the older Xoom be the best bet? Is the new screen a worthwhile upgrade? Thoughts please?
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Update: Having read a bit more about portability and useability of the various sizes (7, 8 and 10) I'm leaning towards the Xoom 2 ME.

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Thanks for the great info Draxin. You have me some things to think about. I can do without the 1080p and thinking about it I'm not sure that running the newest and greatest games matters. On the other hand viewing outside is kind of a big deal.
Decisions decisions.
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Actually there are quite a few new screen prtectors that dont degrade the quality that allow you to still see your xoom in the sunlight
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Like the OP I'm looking to get a reasonably priced tablet for Browsing, a little eReading and some video watching. It's hard enough to justify what is really a gadget purchase and I certainly can't justify the ~€500 price ranges of the top tablets. My target is around the €200 mark.
I like the look of the Nexus 7, but the small screen bothers me a little. I've a Sony Xperia S and 7 inches doesn't seem to give me enough of a boost over it's 4.3 inches to justify spending €250. So I'm looking at reputable brands which have been discounted (due to age or market forces) rather than the budget trinkets that you can get. I even considered a heavily discounted Playbook (~€170) but that's just too far out of the park in terms of OS, support, etc.
I can get a Xoom II (16 GB, WiFi) for about €280, but thats at the upper end of my target budget. I can get a Xoom (32 GB WiFi) (B-stock, new but damaged/opened packaging) for €200, and that has my attention. But I'm worried about the processor speed and the display. I could also get a new Xoom II ME (16 GB, WiFi) for about the same price, €200. Apart from the newer specs (a faster processor and better screen), the 8.2 inch format strikes me as possibly more portable (for use while commuting). WiFi only is also fine for me as when I'm not in a normal WiFi area I'll use my Xperia S as a hotspot.
So, given my budget limitations and the fact that it's probably for light browsing/reading use (some videos while on holidays perhaps), would the Xoom II ME or the older Xoom be the best bet? Is the new screen a worthwhile upgrade? Thoughts please?
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Well, I finally plumped for the Xoom 2 ME. 8.2 inch screen, price (€200 vs €250) and mini HDMI clinched it over the Nexus 7, plus I really think that I don't need Quad Core nor will I do for a few years yet. Portability beat the Xoom or Xoom 2.
Only qualm is that I ordered it from Expansys as they had the best price (by about €25). For a mainstream seller it has far more negative reviews than it should have (they should really take their Facebook page offline). I did order via Amazon rather than directly, perhaps that adds a little more security to the order.
Hopefully I'll be one of the 89% positive buyers. :fingers-crossed:

Well, whatever Expansys is doing wrong for some, it was a pretty efficient transaction for me. Ordered it from Expansys via Amazon on Monday night and it was delivered (via a forwarding company from a UK address) by Wednesday night! Picked it up this morning.
I've only played with it a little and charged it up. Will do the ICS update when I get home as the work wifi is acting up. I was able to tether it to my Xperia S and so far it's looking nice, though the web browsing seemed a little jerky/laggy. Maybe ICS will improve that.
I have since noticed that my Xperia S actually has a faster CPU, more storage, a higher ppi, a better camera and will likely get Jelly Bean later in Q1. If only it had an 8 inch screen