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[UPDATED] The PlayStation Phone

Looks like Android might finally have a fighting chance in the gaming segment of the mobile OS world. While this only shows some hardware and doesn't say much about their game plan, I think it's great. If Sony and Google start producing some quality games for Android, MS definitely will come back swinging! Which means more games and choices for everyone. We might even see MS come out with a slider phone that has gaming controls!
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Those blank spots better be for dual nubs. Other than that, fugly hardware accompanied by a great OS.
EDIT: It'd look fine if they made it look almost exactly like a PSP GO or a X10 Pro.

Honestly, Android games are lackluster at best. I'd be highly surprised if SE could make a phone good enough to challenge MS's Xbox LIVE integration in WP7.
Not to mention SE has a track record for putting old software on their NEW phones *cough* DONUT *cough*... I'm thinking it'll be DOA.

This isn't Google's device, but Sony's. This is there product and probably be the only Android device to legitimately support PSP titles. So this one device has to compete against the not one but nine WP7 devices. It's also probably digital download only which killed sales of the PSPGo, I'm guessing it's gonna do the same here. And if it doesn't add updated graphics there kinda wouldn't be a point.

meh. looks like a cheap UI like on every othe android device. gaming on android sucks anyway. there are hardly any decent titles.

My goodness where is all this misinformation coming from. First its only a prototype device. Second its chip beats every WP7 device. Third Android has a boatload of games from top gaming companies that also support the iPhone(which pawns every other mobile gaming phone OS).
One device versus 9? Be serious the iPhone 4 pawns every UNRELEASED WP7 device.

vetvito said:
My goodness where is all this misinformation coming from. First its only a prototype device. Second its chip beats every WP7 device. Third Android has a boatload of games from top gaming companies that also support the iPhone(which pawns every other mobile gaming phone OS).
One device versus 9? Be serious the iPhone 4 pawns every UNRELEASED WP7 device.
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I never said it wasn't a prototype. You can tell just by looking at it, that this device was somewhat thrown together.

Just putting this out there:
If you want to game, just go for WP7.
Android is a huge joke when it comes to gaming, WP7 has a huge group of real video game developers, plus the addition of XBL. Whoever said PSP games were any good anyway?
Regardless, this looks interesting
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Moved to General as it has nothing to do with WP7.

whats up with the two dots covering up the space for a half querty ?

souljaboy said:
whats up with the two dots covering up the space for a half querty ?
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I think they're kinda like the things on F and J keys on a keyboard. Tell you where to place your thumbs maybe..

I duno how I feel replacing the analog stick with a multi touch pad.
I think it would be neat to see them make a controller case for other android phones, that communicated via. blue tooth. That way, establishing a hardware platform would be significantly easier.

I would NEVER buy one, no more SonyEricsson for me thank you...
S/E are just fuc&%#¤ with us customers, they only send out old android versions, and they don´t keep their promises to us...
So pleace think long and hard about it before you spend money on that company...

Yeah I've never heard good things about SE phones. But things could change. It will most likely ship with 2.2.1 or hopefully Gingerbread.
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New links in OP.

There's another thread about this exact topic, could a mod please merge them?
On-topic: I actually like the look of this phone, might think about getting one (once I've seen the release version)

Android Beats BlackBerry and Apple in the Race

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According to latest survey by comScore the digital measurement provider Google's Android and Blackberry RIM have beaten up Apple in the wild race for best mobile Operating system,OS.
The from comScores "Mobilens Serivice" tells that the study of 30,000 mobile users; 30.4% were Android based as the leader followed by RIM ( Blackberry) and then Apple with a constant 25% share of the Market.
With Regard to this Race for Mobile OS Supremacy, all have there advantages, but on the other hand this proves that today a major Population uses smart phones. (65.8 million in US only) .
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I really like Blackberry's simplicity. Pity few feels the same.

Android now has 52% market share

Android win
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etp said:
I really like Blackberry's simplicity. Pity few feels the same.
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Nope, i feel the same too, the new Bold makes me horny.
Anyway, these numbers mean almost nothing: Apple sells only ONE phone, which costs about 800$, while there's a bunch of crappy low end android phones out there, so go figure.
This said, we're users, not shareholders, should we really care about marketing? I guess not, it's none of our business. What we should care about is software/hardware quality...on that note: there are many androids with awesome hardware, but does the software really keep up with that? Look at a super cheap lg optimus 7 (desire cpu+gpu package), it's smoother than a SGS II and costs about three times less. Even RIM has hardware acceleration now, BB OS 7 will be way faster than current android os when it will come out in a few months, and i won't mind picking up one if ICS won't be a MAJOR update. After a year spent on this OS i can say that it's not perfect, and i'm even kind of tired of playing the nerd part ironing out the bugs and glitches that google dev team is unable to handle.
You might say i'm a fool, and argue that RIM sucks and is about to die, but believe me, if android doesn't come to a new deal i can't actually tell who's gonna die first (at least in the highish end devices marketplace)

I love my android. Don't want anything else
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go android go

Google might be in the lead but there will always be loyal Apple and Blackberry users.

Android has the best quality in my opinion, and the fact they are open source is that much better!

Much easier to find Apple/BB loyalists than Android one in my opinion.

As expected

Android will be the King. And from the top cell phone news, almost 70% are about Android

Apple or Android
Apple and Adroid Both r nice
but i reffer Apple iphone most its the matter of Trust.

All software sucks.

goldbergx said:
Much easier to find Apple/BB loyalists than Android one in my opinion.
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I agree.
When I get my Android smartphone, it will be because of its low cost, first and foremost. I also appreciate the OS's flexibility. But I'm hardly "loyal" to the operating system, since it seems that its primary attraction is what it doesn't do, that is lock down the system from its users, than anything it does do.
When there is an OS that lets me use my smartphone computer like an actual computer but has full developer support, I'm jumping ship. (The most likely candidate will be Windows 8.)

go android!!!! piss on apple!!! and rim is ok people are just on apples nuts, if the white color gets u excited then u shud try coke

I'll always go for the one that gives me the most out of my OS, and that will always be Android. Though I'm not loyal to it.

If Blackberry, Symbian, WP7, WebOS and iOS do not do anything new and spectacular, a.k.a if the situation stays like how it is today, Android will be the king.
note: I am using an Android (Desire) and am very satisfied about it but I am more than willing to get something else, if it is better.

I'm sorry to share this idea here.
In my opinion, Apple is still the best. If you don't like it's premium price tags, Android has some good alternatives.
Send from my Samsung GT-5800 with Kyrillos 5.7 Honeycomb and Fugumod Ultra under the hood.

Apple makes great devices but it's androids turn to shine. Open source linux is what users want. If you want a simple device that's easy to use then buy an apple.
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Why apple is bent on suing android.

Really?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20123511-37/steve-jobs-felt-android-was-a-stolen-product/
Let's face it. Without android you wouldn't be where you are either.
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evil to the last dying breath .... shame on him
android was created before iphone
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He was the same to Adobe with regards to Flash. If it wasn't for Macromedia/Adobe, Apple would have died LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG ago. If it wasn't for Macromedia's software, graphic design and video editing software, and, of course, Flash, wouldn't have been designed on a Mac and Apple would have died a slow, painful, death. And even before that, MS bailed the c***s outs.
........................greedy
He's a hypocritical ^ asshole. Visionary my arse.

It's because they are jelly Android is catching up

AllGamer said:
evil to the last dying breath .... shame on him
android was created before iphone
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and it looked like blackberry for the uneducated before they saw the iPhone, this is the stupidest argument to put out.

z33dev33l said:
and it looked like blackberry for the uneducated before they saw the iPhone, this is the stupidest argument to put out.
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Both Android and iOS look like S60, so if other arguments are stupid, yours isn't any better.

AllGamer said:
evil to the last dying breath .... shame on him
android was created before iphone
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First Android phone did not come out until 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history

Illicit Hero said:
First Android phone did not come out until 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
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oh lord.
You do realize being out in the market and existing or in development arent the same right ?
iPhone STILL looks like it did when it first launched. Bunch of icons on several pages. Apples theft or "borrowing" of design and features is well known and documented. People dont have it out for Jobs they just recognize hypocrites when they see one.

xManMythLegend said:
oh lord.
You do realize being out in the market and existing or in development arent the same right ?
iPhone STILL looks like it did when it first launched. Bunch of icons on several pages. Apples theft or "borrowing" of design and features is well known and documented. People dont have it out for Jobs they just recognize hypocrites when they see one.
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Same can be said about the iPhone, point?

Not long before microsoft fears android os for pc lol.
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How many options does ios5 "steal" from android or others. Such is the nature of business. If someone buys something, another company is going to produce a similar product with their own twist to appeal to another group of consumers and some of the "original" company's. When one company started building suvs, and another company sees a trend they will too. If one company sees that ppl like rear window wipers others are going to manufacturer them too. Take something, build it to your liking and add in to it. There are few truly genuine and unburrowed ideas in today's business. If you think you have a niche in the market, don't plan on having it long unless you continue to innovate. Heck, apple even spends less on its r&d per revenue then goggle, microsoft, or rim. Because they gave up on innovation and spent more on legal departments and advertising?
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Apple-Samsung Court Case

Looks like our beloved Charge was mentioned as a witness in this case:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/apple/apple-samsung-trial-verdict/
- rubber band patent
- 915 patent (scrolling with one finger)
- 163 patent (double tap to zoom and center content)
- iphone trade dress (Charge was not in violation of this)
what this could mean for the future for the Charge? who knows?
good side: perhaps a software update to the latest OS with valid patents
bad side: a software update reverting these violations
neutral: nothing....

Here's a interesting write up about some sketchiness among the jury and the decision. In this light, it seems almost certain that at appeal is coming, if not outright dismissals on at least some of the violations under a Rule 50(b). With this much alleged impropriety, they may even be able to get a stay on the decision.
I doubt Apple is overly concerned with a low sale volume device like the Charge in the grand scheme of things. I imagine that the most that might happen is stopping production.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390

Hmm. So is it really copying when they are two totally different programming languages that achieve similar results?
I hate this damn Samsung keyboard .... Maybe if i have some time i can catch up with you guys
Rooted FP5....

Antoneus1231 said:
Hmm. So is it really copying when they are two totally different programming languages that achieve similar results?
I hate this damn Samsung keyboard .... Maybe if i have some time i can catch up with you guys
Rooted FP5....
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You can install a keyboard without root...
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sales ban
Cnet is reporting that Apple is requesting a ban on sales of the Charge (amongst other phones) in the US.
With appeals and other legal manuvering I have no idea whether this will really happen, but I wonder what it means for customers that have these phones... What would happen if you need a replacement from VZ?

It would be great if they just make them stock android devices with 4.1.1 like the nexus S...The resale value would double lol.

i would not be surprised to see VZW offer us a deep discount on upgrading to another device. probably something like $100 off the 2-year contract price of another device even if you have time left on your current contract. which is really nothing new, but it could easily persuade most out of the charge...
but whatever it is, I want dwith to let me know where he is going first, and I'll follow.... (just don't say iphone....)

jco23 said:
but whatever it is, I want dwith to let me know where he is going first, and I'll follow.... (just don't say iphone....)
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Definitely. This is a great group I've found here. I don't want to just trade you guys in for the sake of some stupid phone. Unless he says iphone. Which would suck. I don't expect that to happen though.
Rooted FP5....

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This is what I think of apple.
Tweaked 2.2 PBJ and Transparent ICS 5.0 Beta

tmanschuette said:
This is what I think of apple.
Tweaked 2.2 PBJ and Transparent ICS 5.0 Beta
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Ditto. Except I wouldn't look as happy ingesting such a grotesque thing

Here's some info on the latest.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120827143911783
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120828085512779

tldr but I'd like to know a summary
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First article is showing how the only device that the judge felt confident in granting a sales injunction for was one of the few devices that didn't get any judgement against it. Literally, the only device the judge thought was a slam dunk got off clean, and others that she considered to be weak cases got slammed by the jury, which when taken with the earlier reports of procedural errors and bias points further toward an incompetent or biased jury. The second article compares this case to previous attempts by Oracle, SCO, and Microsoft attempting (and failing) to shut down other FOSS projects due to fear, and speculates (with good reasoning) that this could very well be a test case for patent reform that makes it all the way to SCOTUS.

This is just getting worse and worse. The jury foreman in an interview said that he determined that prior art didn't apply because "The software on the Apple side could not be placed into the processor on the prior art and vice versa. That means they are not interchangeable. That changed everything right there." Great logic, except that interchangeability isn't part of the definition of prior art. I can just be words on a piece of paper with no actual implementation whatsoever and still be prior art, yet he managed to convince the rest of the jury using that logic. Keep in mind that this is the same guy who has a patent and admitted that was thinking of this case in terms of defending his own patent.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120828225612963

Every time that guy opens his mouth, he strengthens Samsung's appeal and/or Rule 50(b) filing.

Apple and Google to Allow Third-Party App Stores and Sideloading

New U.S. Antitrust Bill Would Require Apple and Google to Allow Third-Party App Stores and Sideloading​
New bipartisan antitrust legislation that targets Apple's App Store and Google's Play Store was today introduced by U.S. Senators Richard Blumenthal, Marsha Blackburn, and Amy Klobuchar.
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The Open App Markets Act [PDF] is meant to create "fair, clear, and enforceable rules" that will protect competition and strengthen consumer protections. According to the three senators, Apple and Google have "gatekeeper control" of the two main mobile operating systems and their app stores, allowing them to dictate the terms of the app market.
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New U.S. Antitrust Bill Would Require Apple and Google to Allow Third-Party App Stores and Sideloading
New bipartisan antitrust legislation that targets Apple's App Store and Google's Play Store was today introduced by U.S. Senators Richard...
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If this gets passed, I can see Apple being not too happy.

Shadowthor said:
If this gets passed, I can see Apple being not too happy.
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Yes I think Apple will be the one of the two with more on the line. As for security concerns on this subject Apple already has enough issues currently and would much like to keep it as minimal as possible? Both companies are in compromising positions in this field as it is.
I'm all for this as most of us are. It is one step forward to a completely Lock Free phone Computing environment. It is right XDA and other communities alley. Developers will love this of course. It will put a lot of money in people's pockets where it needs to be.
Additionally the world of Android customization, custom phones, and all things totally cool for the little green guy my all come true for us someday.
One small step for this win? One huge leap for the little green fellas kind...

noidodroid said:
Yes I think Apple will be the one of the two with more on the line. As for security concerns on this subject Apple already has enough issues currently and would much like to keep it as minimal as possible? Both companies are in compromising positions in this field as it is.
I'm all for this as most of us are. It is one step forward to a completely Lock Free phone Computing environment. It is right XDA and other communities alley. Developers will love this of course. It will put a lot of money in people's pockets where it needs to be.
Additionally the world of Android customization, custom phones, and all things totally cool for the little green guy my all come true for us someday.
One small step for this win? One huge leap for the little green fellas kind...
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Agreed, if it gets passed, it would start to open the Apple OS more for customization.

In case most did not already know In the old days Apple was more of a user base of older people. Primarily older adults. There was not a lot of sales nor young people that were using the devices in the way that they are today. Fast forward in time technology has improved Apple has put out good PR when the iPhone released.. really a little bit before however this spiked a rise in their user base and this time one that
Would flourish for decades. Bad for apple yeah? No? With time comes curiosity.. they say curiosity killed the cat.. well it definitely killed Apple sales.. all the [very cool] exploits released, iCloud workarounds, bypass services and more causing this perhaps. ...
Apple firing back with iCloud the Superior device protection which launched an even greater amount of device sales for Apple with so many devices lost stolen Etc due to not being able to recover from iCloud lock. I don't know if the latter was very significant but in my mind it is and still is to this day until they fix it. I don't believe iCloud is bad. I would love for Google to implement their new surprise factory reset protection they have been talking about for a little while now that is not really in the media yet. Then Google will be up there with apple when it comes to device security on Lost stolen devices when this happens.
This is just a start of a whole new era of freedom for cellular devices. Up to 2015 we fought for unlocking rights and then we got them. Companies such as Motorola and HTC becoming developer-friendly in allowing bootloader unlocking . Other things. Now we have this. The day of Androids right now and Apple iPhones and I devices are likely days of moonshine running but only take that a step further the days of building custom cars right before NASCAR when everything had to be strictly from scratch. No million-dollar companies helping just strictly small mom-and-pop and backyard mechanics. I'm not trying to say phones are becoming hot rod that will eventually start racing each other lol by no means. But I think you get the gist of what I'm saying. Absolute freedom to do whatever with our devices.

noidodroid said:
In case most did not already know In the old days Apple was more of a user base of older people. Primarily older adults. There was not a lot of sales nor young people that were using the devices in the way that they are today. Fast forward in time technology has improved Apple has put out good PR when the iPhone released.. really a little bit before however this spiked a rise in their user base and this time one that
Would flourish for decades. Bad for apple yeah? No? With time comes curiosity.. they say curiosity killed the cat.. well it definitely killed Apple sales.. all the [very cool] exploits released, iCloud workarounds, bypass services and more causing this perhaps. ...
Apple firing back with iCloud the Superior device protection which launched an even greater amount of device sales for Apple with so many devices lost stolen Etc due to not being able to recover from iCloud lock. I don't know if the latter was very significant but in my mind it is and still is to this day until they fix it. I don't believe iCloud is bad. I would love for Google to implement their new surprise factory reset protection they have been talking about for a little while now that is not really in the media yet. Then Google will be up there with apple when it comes to device security on Lost stolen devices when this happens.
This is just a start of a whole new era of freedom for cellular devices. Up to 2015 we fought for unlocking rights and then we got them. Companies such as Motorola and HTC becoming developer-friendly in allowing bootloader unlocking . Other things. Now we have this. The day of Androids right now and Apple iPhones and I devices are likely days of moonshine running but only take that a step further the days of building custom cars right before NASCAR when everything had to be strictly from scratch. No million-dollar companies helping just strictly small mom-and-pop and backyard mechanics. I'm not trying to say phones are becoming hot rod that will eventually start racing each other lol by no means. But I think you get the gist of what I'm saying. Absolute freedom to do whatever with our devices.
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Agreed, Motorola thankfully has an easy way to unlock bootloader, it at least gives you an option to flash a different current os compared to their os which updates maybe every so many months if you are lucky.
Oneplus I believe also has bootloader unlock available as well.